Bush's not for prime time Iraq War Speech: The 'Pause'
By John Amato Wednesday Apr 09, 2008 1:45pmWe used part of this headline earlier, but I want to point out the very obvious fact that he gave this very serious and important speech when nobody was watching. Notice the time? Why not during the 6/9 PM block on teevee? Basra certainly had an impact. Anyway, how does McCain and Lieberman feel about the fact that Bush is going with Webb's plan. OK, so we know he's not going with Webb's actual plan, but it's the plan that they voted down when Webb wanted to spare the men and women in uniform some pain and suffering.
But McCain, a leading opponent of the Webb amendment, said it "would do more harm than good" and would force the military to withdraw troops from Iraq more rapidly than currently planned.
"This goes to the heart of the surge that is showing success in Anbar province, in Baghdad and other parts of Iraq," he said in debate on the Senate floor. "The effect of this amendment would be to emasculate this surge."
...Calling U.S. forces "overstressed . . . but not defeated," he argued that the amendment "could easily bring about their defeat" and lead to "chaos and genocide" in the region.
And of course he has to "pause" troop withdrawals:
President Bush on Thursday ordered an indefinite halt in U.S. troop withdrawals from Iraq after July, embracing the key recommendations of his top war commander. Bush said Gen. David Petraeus will "have all the time he needs" to consider when more American forces could return home. Bush's decisions virtually guarantee a major U.S. presence in Iraq throughout his term in office in January, when a new president takes office.
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Have we won the occupation yet?
Fuck Bush !!!
Tired of the azzhole already.
ZombieNation @ 2:
Already? I was tired of him before he became president.
Charles @ 1:
We won it 5 years ago.....according to the reich-wing.
ZombieNation @ 2:
284 days and counting......
Shrub has ordered the "indefinite halt" on the draw-down of U.S. toops from Iraq. In other words, he'll leave office with 130,000+ troops still in Iraq and laugh all the way to his insane asylum in Crawford, Texas, while the next president will have to deal with the fallout.
What withdrawal plan?
Once again Bush strikes a low blow to our men and women in uniform. Is he jealous of these soldiers because he never got to serve? (snark)
different day same shit , lock and load
Hows Bush going to get an audience to watch?
The Top 5 lists
1. "American Idol" (Tuesday), Fox.
2. "American Idol" (Wednesday), Fox.
3. "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," CBS.
4. "Dancing With The Stars" (Monday), ABC.
5. "Dancing With The Stars" (Tuesday), ABC.
It aired when it did because it is not news. Hasn't been for some time.
"Bush’s decisions virtually guarantee a major U.S. presence in Iraq throughout his term in office in January, when a new president takes office."
That's been the endgame all along. When the Democratic Congress failed to force the issue back in January 2007, the deal was done. The past 15 months, mere theater.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 4:
Yeah, what was it again? Something like...uh...wait, don't tell me...oh yeah!
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
Petraeus gave Bush the cover he needed to do what he was going to do anyway.
Now he can say he was listening to the Generals.
Operation Same Old Shit
Dr. Acula @ 12:
As Jon Stewart would say, we're working backwards.
Oh everything is going to cause "chaos". That's become the new "smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud"
For a man who was a POW for five years or whatever amount of time it was, he sure seems to have lost his concern about what battle does to soldiers. I swear to god, McCain would say the sky is red if he thought it would get him one more damned vote. The fu*ker scares me with his desperation.
This is all the fault of Pelosi and Reid IMHO. Come on Pelosi, you can talk big in front of the camera but when it comes to actually doing something to help this country before Bush completely throws it away is to start impeachment against the Bush/Cheney/et al. What is wrong with the congress? They could talk and talk to Petraeous and Crocker but look where it got them. Same old, same old. Petraeous and Crocker ran right to Bush and whined that nobody respected them. So Bush tells them they will have all the time they want to get things straightened out. Preferably after November 2008. We don't have much time left Pelosi. Do something NOW. After January 2009 Bush and Cheney will no longer be residents of the U.S.A. and it will be too late. Please go after these criminals NOW!
po @ 11:
1. Bush will take care of it.
2. We can't beat this damn idiot screw it as long as I don't have to go over there.
Probably what most Americans think now days.
liberAL @ 16:
Sham
1. Something false or empty that is purported to be genuine; a spurious imitation.
2. The quality of deceitfulness; empty pretense.
3. One who assumes a false character.
4. A decorative cover made to simulate an article of household linen and used over or in place of it:
What does he call what's going on now?
This president is to cowardly to do this prime time. Americans are steadily get more and more pissed off. And not just poorer Americans, many upper class Americans too. I've heard stories how people who were earning 70k and are now out of work. You add gas prices and inflation you got a pissed off populace. Will they vote Democrat? I hope so. If not, they can do as Mr. Burn's once said,"Wallow in their own crapulance!"
L.A. Confidential @ 10:
Shows like that helped create an America who would elect such a monster.
Leslie @ 19:
Whatever his consultants tell him to say.
Geo @ 21:
Thats right. Fantasy Land.
McCain = Bush attack the constitution says Fourth Amendment is null
During a Senate Appropriations Committee hearing this morning, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) questioned Attorney General Michael Mukasey about that October, 2001 Justice Department memo in which John Yoo found that the Fourth Amendment, which protects citizens against "unreasonable searches and seizures," had "no application to domestic military operations."
Has that memo been withdrawn? If not, was it still in force? Feinstein wanted to know.
She found it difficult to pry an answer loose. "I can't speak to the October, 2001 memo," Mukasey said when she asked whether it had been withdrawn. He said that Yoo's later March, 2003 memo -- which broadly authorized the use of torture by military interrogators on unlawful combatants -- had been withdrawn, but refused to discuss that October, 2001 memo.
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/
L.A. Confidential @ 23:
"Idol"s the big one. My neighbor is a Vocal Coach. She has an endless revenue stream of Mothers Dragging their talentless kids constantly over here for "coaching". Despite the fact it's ultimately hopeless.
TV is an escape for people who don't know if they can afford their mortgage payments, get their kids medical care and have enough money left to put food on the table. I don't begrudge them a few minutes of entertainment and escape. If they want to watch Idol or whatever, fine by me. I rather people watch those shows than be zombies to shows like BillO or Hannity.
Once upon a time when the president of the United States made a big speech it was carried in the evening by all three major networks. I'm not sure when that stopped or why. Seems the only one in that time slot now is the state of the union.
Once again, we see Bush and McCain using an overstretched military simply to save face. They will have those troops running from one area of Iraq to the next for the remainder of Bush's term and will achieve absolutely nothing. That is all that is happening here. Bush, McCain and the rest of the Republicans would rather drive the military in the ground than admit that they cannot achieve their publicly stated objectives.
The "good news" of this bad news is that this is only helping sink the reich-wing into a permanent minority status.
L.A. Confidential @ 10:
6. NHL playoffs
7. Frozen Four
:)
Frybread @ 6:
The Shittiest President's Wife says they are moving to Dallas.
I can't wait to hear how happy folks are in Highland Park when motorcades shut down their streets so he can go bar hopping.
pissed off patricia @ 26:
He'd lose more of his base if he interrupted WWF RAW, and other shows of that ilk too often.
American's love to bury their head in the sand at times of stress. We have always told ourselves that America is the best. We have been taught that from the cradle. We've allowed ourselves to be complacant. By not even caring what is going on in the world other than ourselves, we have allowed people like Bush, Rove and the other right-wingers play on that weakness. Now people are starting to realize that we can lose not just the war, but our very standard of living. But i'm afraid it might be a little to late.
Joe O. @ 27:
By the way, those military personnel will carry out any and all of Bush's orders because they are very good soldiers and Marines. With that being said, I'd bet that you will not find one of those troops that has any confidence left in their leadership. They know Iraq is a futile endeavor.
“The effect of this amendment would be to emasculate this surge.”
I'm not joking:
These republican'ts are wildly obsessed with the cock.
I mean seriously, is this supposed to make us stand up, back him up, all in the name of being real men, not pussies, with big old swinging cocks? Geez, next he'll be telling me to buy a large hand gun and a gas guzzling SUV with a big, manly glove box to store it in.
[glad to not be a conservative coward]
Iraq. Hmm, sounds familiar. Is that the guy who missed the free throw for Kansas?
What? We're at war?! OH NOES! I'M SCEERED! Imma gonna vote 'publican next election!
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 28:
Nah, too many still have Diebold, ES&S, the Supreme Court, and the MSM to help them stay in office.
liberAL @ 16:
Maybe its related to this little nugget thats being ignored today ...
Telecom Whistleblower Discovers Circuit that Allows Access to All Systems on Wireless Carrier—Phone Calls, Text Messages, Emails and More
Babak Pasdar is a computer security expert who was hired in 2003 to help restructure the tech infrastructure at a major wireless telecommunications company. What he found shocked him. The company had set up a system that gave a third party, presumably a governmental entity, access to every communication coming through that company’s infrastructure. This means every email, internet use, document transmission, video, text message, as well as the ability to listen to and record any phone call.
Joe O, there is a segment on ABC News about soldiers voting Democratic because they want to get the Hell out of there. Sure the Repugs like to state they are the party for the military, but many soldies obviously disagree.
Leslie @ 7:
the withdrawal plan where we don't actually withdraw anyone. that plan.
L.A. sham is not enough, its a travishamockery.
Mpls_Dem @ 39:
The plan is: There is no Plan.
I'm going to inject a little comedy relief. I just heard on CNN that Huckabee has signed with a talent agency and there is talk of a tv show in his future. The first thing that came to mind was, are they going to make new episodes of Gomer Pyle?
McCain is trying so hard to be bush the second that he may just hang himself. He needs to be reminded that bush only has about a 20 something percent approval record.
pissed off patricia @ 42:
Please, Jim Nabors had talent. No dissing him please.
Perhaps though, he could play Goober's long lost son?
Maybe Huckabee can do a travel show and visit Canada's National Igloo?
I just read something that scares me. McCain has erased Obama's lead. I hope it is a fluke. And Patricia, If Huckabee gets a TV show, I think i'll barf!
Well you gotta admit, Huckabee looks like Gomer Pyle. I'm wondering if the show would be on Fox or CNN?
Several polls have shown McCain ahead of both Obama and Hillary for a long time. Pay no attention.
P.D. @ 38:
I missed that particular segment but it doesn't surprise me that the military is looking to a Democratic President and Congress more and more. Tough talk goes over well with the American public and makes for a good pep rally at home but it does little for the troops that have to carry out the missions given to them. Especially if they see that those missions they are to carry out have been done over and over again or are completely pointless. There comes a time for the common soldier on the ground when he/she looks at their leadership's continuous failures and says "You know, these fools don't have the first clue about they are doing and never have."
Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki Disagrees With Petraeus: US Forces Can Start Withdrawing
SLOBODAN LEKIC | April 10, 2008 08:03 AM EST
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BAGHDAD — A U.S. airstrike targeted a building in Baghdad's Sadr City on Thursday, hours after American soldiers clashed with Shiite militants in fighting that left 15 people dead, police and the U.S. military said.
The renewed violence coincided with the Congressional testimony of the Bush administration's top two officials in Iraq _ Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker. Petraeus recommended a pause in drawing down U.S. troops in Iraq while the security situation remains unstable and President Bush is expected to follow his recommendation.
But Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki disagreed with Petraeus' proposal to delay further U.S. troop withdrawals, citing the growing capabilities of Iraq's own security forces.
Petraeus wants the U.S. to complete by the end of July the withdrawal of the 20,000 troops that were sent to Iraq last year, leaving about 140,000 in the country. Beyond that, the general proposed a 45-day evaluation period to be followed by an indefinite period of assessment before any further pullouts.
Al-Maliki, however, has said he disagrees with that decision.....[more]
earl @ 41:
it's called a withdrawal plan when they use the two words in the same sentence.
George say "BOHICA, you Democraters!"
I might also add that as much as the Bush Administration hates to put out "signals" to the enemy, they have been sending a clear signal to the U.S. troops and the so called enemy for a very long time. They have been signaling ever since Bush became "the war President" that he, and the those that support his actions are and continue to be incompetent, reckless, unwise and are simply just winging it. They constantly over estiminate their own capablilities and under estimate everything else. These are the hallmarks of a simple minded novice and if we had a command staff with balls they would call them on it.
Joe O. @ 27:
Now Joe, we all know it was Bubba who ruined the armed forces! (*snark off).
Frybread @ 6:
I hope McCain wins. It's obvious the American People have not suffered enough to demand a more fair government.
They're still watching American Idol and hoping for a new season of "24".
P.D. @ 44:
My passport is all fired out and ready to go.
liberAL @ 16:
Won't happen. They don't have the votes to convict, and that's a simple fact. that's why impeachment isn't on the table - there's no way they could win that one.
However: they are the majority and could easily defund this war and stop it dead in its tracks, and for that they got some 'splainin' to do. Of course, what passes for the left in the USA is so gutless they dare not press the matter directly, for fear of Republicans taking advantage of such discussion.
(sigh)
Morons. The lot of them all. The Republicans are thieving retards and the dems are gutless morons. You get the government you pay for...
Weaseldog @ 30:
of course she wants to move to Dallas. Fellatio is against the law in Texas.
Tweakerbell @ 54:
You get the government you DESERVE.
And they can't have my boy. No sir. I'll die at the hands of a government SWAT team before I let that happen.
In Bush's world a 27% rating is 72%; a defeat in Iraq is a victory; the 4th amendment means unreasonable searches and seizures are reasonable; that reason is, in fact, treason; and that laws are meant to protect corporations not citizens...but I suppose you already knew that...
They call George the POTUS...I simply call him the POS.
A pox on George W. Bush....and all his family, his associates, everyone in the Bush cabal and all those that enable them.
P.D. @ 38:
Well, the VA has a solution for that...they're going to withhold voter registration materials from wounded vets. Why? Because the VA says that's a "partisan activity."
You can't make this stuff up!
Okay George, you got us. We'll take the baton and do our best to straighten out this historic fuck up of yours. Its obvious that you don't want to play President anymore. You murdered innocent Iraqis, the troops, broke Iraq, bankrupted America, pissed on the Nation's reputation all while OBL is toasting all beef hot dogs by camp fire in Pakistan. Now you get to spent the rest of your no account life clearing brush, going to ball games, and wandering around the world making utterly dumb ass incoherent speeches.
Anyone who watched the hearings with Betrayus & Crock O'Crap knows that Betrayus is nothing more than a 4-star politician now and should be busted back to private and Crock O'Crap read the lines fed to him by this administration. It was nothing more than another exercise in futility for all those very important beings warming chairs in the Congress. This country will be bankrupt and in a depression before this occupation ever ends.
Bluesage @ 62:
Americans will stand up and revolt when they no longer can bear the cable rate increases.
I wonder if CNN's Kyra Phillips will do another green zone its soooo safe here report. Does anyone know is the "ditto head" Bagdad vacation trip is still on for this summer?
Excellent observation. The time slot he chose to to flap his jaws on the airwaves. Now that you mention it, it's usually in the middle the afternoon or in the morning he chooses to have his jaw flapping moments. Most people aren't parked in front of the boob-tube at that time. Reminds me of when I was a teenager sneaking out in the middle of the night after everyone else has gone to bed, or a burglar breaking into your house when no one is home. Well his whole presidency has been based on being secretive, slimy little turd, why change now?
History in the Making: Obama wins the Presidency
http://tardesgrises.wordpress.com/textos-en-ingles/barack-obama/
BREAKING NEWS:
White House memo authorizing torture and SIGNED BY GEORGE BUSH has surfaced:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/10/95033/2181/104/493151
This from the genius who hasn't even mastered basic English . Great post # 62 Left & Left , I could not have said it better .
to liberal@57 Well spoken sir, please allow me to step up and stand beside you. I don't have any kids, but I will stand for you and yours. I have had my fill of these chicken shit cocksuckers talking big and bad from the back seat of a limo, 25,50 100 years of being a miliary lawyer do not make you a fighting man! Just take a look at this skunks hands, are they big and strong enough to pull a damn trigger? Has he ever had a blister on his hand that was not from jacking off? Lets just see how brave he is, well ga-ham put YOUR fat ass where your mouth is, transfer to a combat unit you yellow little rat. Oh you have a butt wart,can't go---paper cut that really stings---can't find your dick under your stomach----your mommy grounded you----youve"done your time(moving all those papers around desk) To short to see above steering wheel of humve---hang nail? Lets see what else would keep you from doing your duty? Oh yea your a coward,shaking in your tiny little boots while waveing the flag, well you would wave it if you could lift the weight. I saw cartoon today that says it all--A big police officer (big)standing in riot gear head to toe, automatic weapon,bells lites,etc...bush is standing behind cop(only comes up to waist of copper) firing a plastic ray gun safe from harm behind the officer. Time to come inside linseed its getting dark and you know how frightened you are of the dark. This pussy has ,after 25 yrs, still not earned the right to send my goddamn dog to the supermarket let alone any of our real heros to fight for profit. * I had dibs on punching ga -, hams eye ball but I can't make it today, would someone who has some free time drop over to see him and drop off this round house right for me? (punch provided or you can use your own)!---CEO
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