Sunday Morning Talking Head Thread
By bluegal Saturday Apr 12, 2008 7:00am
ABC's "This Week" - Former President Jimmy Carter; national security adviser Stephen Hadley.
CBS' "Face the Nation" - Defense Secretary Robert Gates; House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.
NBC's "Meet the Press" - Democratic strategists James Carville and Bob Shrum; Republican strategists Mary Matalin and Mike Murphy.
CNN's "Late Edition" - Sens. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., Joe Biden, D-Del., Bob Casey, D-Pa., Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and Joe Lieberman, I-CT; Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari.
"Fox News Sunday" - Former Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D.; Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter; Hadley; Olympic speedskater Joey Cheek; Alex Ovechkin, left wing player for the Washington Capitals hockey team.
"The Chris Matthews Show" - Panel David Brooks, Clarence Page, Elisabeth Bumiller, Kelly O'Donnell. Topics: Is McCain the change voters want? Can he outshine the anti-war Dems? Will Hillary's supporters go with Obama if they have to?
Sunday on C-SPAN at 6:30pm (ET) How We Pick the President Sunday "The Week" Magazine & The Aspen Inst. host a panel discussion on the 2008 presidential campaign titled, "How We Pick the President: What's Moving Voters in 2008." Panelists include Republican Strategist Karl Rove, Democratic Pollster Doug Schoen, and Fmr. NY Times Executive Editor, Howell Raines.
By the way, this is a good time to let our readers know how much we appreciate all the tips and support you folks offer us in the comment threads. We read 'em, we use 'em. Thanks much. Feel free to let us know in the thread below if you see anything this morning that's clipworthy--first time commenters are always welcome to pipe in.
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Democratic strategist James Carville?
Are the Dems aware of this?
Why doesn't Chris Matthews just wear a John Mc Cain '08 shirt?
Wow, FOX nabbed an interview with an Olympic "speedskater"? That sounds like it's going to be FASCINATING!!!! I've always wondered what speedskaters have to say about ANYTHING...
I hope he'll talk about training, the Tibet problem, the torch relay problems, the latest talk about technology of skates, and ice/water quality. That seems FASCINATING.
I'm sure it's gonna be a real hard-hitting interview.
I'm soo glad Rove has found useful employment: helping us pick the next president. [snort]
Alex Ovechkin, left wing player for the Washington Capitals hockey team.
Is FOX being "Fair and Balanced" or is this just his position on the ice?
John in Oak Park @ 5:
How many guesses do we get?
I'll do what I can, but I refuse to watch Donny and Marie Carville. Matalin is a brown-nose Repuke and her hubby ain't much better. And why the hell is Bob Shrum still around? Didn't he lose like eight out of nine presidential runs?
http://wcco.com/politics/dfl.3rd.district.2.698352.html
Now if Minnesota can replace Michelle Bachman.
For Political Parody, SNL Returns to its Roots
http://wcco.com/politics/dfl.3rd.district.2.698352.html
Third district DFL has endorsed an interesting newcomer.
Now if Minnesota can replace Michelle Bachman.
As a canvasser in smalltown Pa, the fake issue of Obamas remarks is not resonating. It is a figment of GOP gadflies Clinton and McCain. Of course the MSM is bending over backwards to keep the fantasy alive. Watch the bobblehead of your choice and see which story gets more coverage, this or the admission by the president that his inner circle subverted the law and constitution to torture POWs and negate the fourth amendment.
TV (journalists?) need to ask themselves at some point during their support for corporate media propaganda...would I be happy living under an all Republican corporate-quasi-government? No rules or laws for the filthy rich.
MN USA @ 8:
And our wonderfull Mr. Coleman.
I wonder if we'll hear about the "Tiger Woods" kerflullel?
You can have your Babe Ruth, we've got Willy Mayes. :)
Did Daschel just say, "Mayor Nutty" (about Mayor Nutter)?
Radically Moderate @ 1:
No kidding, and where oh where does a person apply for this job and what does it pay?
I'm really getting sick watching Meet the Press now... we're gonna be hearing "San Francisco Democrats" a LOT in the next few months. They're honestly digging to make something out of nothing and anybody who thinks the MSM is just a booster club for Obama must seriously be out of touch right now. They just want to create conflict, they don't care who wins.
Radically Moderate @ 1:
James Carville's strategery: "You vote for Hillary Clinton, or else!"
FNS: "Welcome back to FOX News Sunday. Our guest this segment is Washington Capitals player Alex Ovechkin. Welcome Alex."
AO: "Thank you."
FNS: "You're in the Stanley Cup Play-offs this season. Is that correct?"
AO: "Yes we are. Hoping to get to the finals."
FNS: "That's great. So tell us, how much do you hate Barrack Hussein Obama?"
AO: "What?"
...cue commercial...
Carville and Shrum....a pair to draw to.
Hadley: Iranian involvement in the insurgency in Iraq is increasing...
We will be reducing troop levels in July.
Anyone else see a disconnect here?
Mugsy @ 21:
I'm trying to drink the Bushie Kool-Aid right now, so that I don't see the disconnect. Only it's not working. Darn, I'd like to know what Bush's 28% see. Errr...maybe not.
Clearly, the official Fox News position is that Bush should NOT attend the Olympic Opening Ceremonies in China.
Wallace pushed Hadly on the point at least three times by my count. And now he's asking medalist Joey Cheek if Hadley is right.
RE: Meet the Press, don't people have to be suspicious when one Democratic strategist and both Republican strategists clearly don't want Obama to be the nominee? We already know Carville's just friends with the Clintons, he said as much this morning, but I really doubt the Republicans want Clinton to be the nominee because she'd be the lesser of two evils in their eyes.
Sunday on C-SPAN at 6:30pm (ET) How We Pick the President Sunday “The Week” Magazine & The Aspen Inst. host a panel discussion on the 2008 presidential campaign titled, “How We Pick the President: What’s Moving Voters in 2008.” Panelists include Republican Strategist Karl Rove, Democratic Pollster Doug Schoen, and Fmr. NY Times Executive Editor, Howell Raines.
Is Karl Rove going to talk about the Republican use of voter caging, felons lists, push polls, Debold machines, and all sorts of other election fraud?
Apparently, to FnS, Obama's "gaff" is "serious" and will hurt his campaign from here on out.
Apparently, "clinging" to ones faith is "bad"... though it is a term I've heard people of faith themselves use.
An Average Joe @ 2:
because they dont make a t shirt for fat bastards with a small head!
Juan Williams: Obama's comment is "further evidence" that Obama is "out of touch" and "looks down his nose" at these people.
Macaca Moment 2008
Video from San Francisco
a clip taken by somebody at the San Francisco event; it's the passage just before the lines everyone is now focused on, in which he talks about the skepticism he encounters:
..."it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laughter), then that adds another layer of skepticism."
Pictures from the event also from Flickr.
Goodbye, Norma Jean.
The "Obama Watch" goes on.
It's too funny how they actually believe that clock might somehow "shame" him into coming on. The more likely result is it will increase interest in just why Obama WON'T appear... which I doubt Fox wants more people to see/hear.
The candle burned out long before
the legend ever did.
Hume: "The Democratic Party used to be the Party of Free Trade."
No it wasn't. The Democratic Party voiced opposition when Clinton pushed NAFTA, the pet project of the GOP.
its plain to dee that the elections going to be stolen once again! all these asshole pundits keep saying the elections going to be close! i guess it will be no matter how many repigs stay home and dont vote ,thier absence will not be noticed on the final tally ! mccain will beat either democrat by 500 votes and you can take a flying fluck at a rolling doughnut if you dont like it!!!!!!!!!you let the repigs steal two elections and did nothing they know youll eat the repig scat on a third one! be prepared to see your next preznut giveing you the state of the union messages from a nurseing home! hey look at it this way its a great way to watch your freedoms dieing and see how great it is watching an old fool setting in a wheelchair in the hallway drooling on his nighty!
Far as I can tell, every person listed there is white, except for the Iraqi foreign minister.
We don't live in a white supremacist nation. . . do we?
Macon D
http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/
MtP starts the program with Obama's "gaff" and Hillary's reaction.
Explain to me, how is Obama's comment any different that Bill Clinton's "God, guns & gays"?
oh and i watched a great movie on dvd last night it shows just what scum this repig party is , lions to lambs !
That MTP lineup looks awful. Does anyone in the hinterland watch this drivel? Only inside the beltway idiots like the Borgers, Finemans, etc. could stand it in order to get their marching orders.
Bluegal inquires whether the panelists on The Chris Matthews Show will want to know if McCain "will outshine the anti-war Dems." To be generous, that inquiry should be re-worded as the tepid anti-war Dems since both Clinton that [alleged] agent of hope and change Obama made clear that they are against the, to use Obama's word, "precipitous" withdrawal of troops from that abattoir in Iraq. Apparently the last thing that both of them should be concerned about is whether more American troops must needlessly die for no justifiable reason if either Clinton or Obama "precipitously" remove American forces from Iraq.
So much for the anti-war Democrats supporting the troops. With friends like these two [and McCain], the rank and file of the military does not have to look far to discover that no one from the two major parties has any genuine desire in looking out for their best interests. When the Democratic and Republican conventions convene this summer, it is extremely doubtful if one will see any signs that proclaim:
SUPPORT THE TROOPS BRING THEM HOME-ALIVE AND IN ONE PIECE-NOW.
In the unlikely event that one does see these signs on television, five will get you ten that the candidates from both parties will pretend that they did not see these messages imploring them to finally and immediately return the soldiers back to this country.
robbie @ 7:
This + Lieberman,Daschle, ROVE, Raines...we need next, now.
Ah the networks. "Who cares about torture? We've got softballs to lob and horse races to call."
Caville, Matlin, Meet The Press? When are we going to reject this ridiculous donkey show.
What a fucking scam!
On Snuffaluffagus:
Hayden just would NOT answer whether or not Bush would attend the olympic opening ceremonies. It was quite funny.
Well, the Stephanumbnuttus panel has decided: Obama has nearly lost the election, Republicans demand a strict standard for talking to our enemies unless it's China, and George W. Bush's admission of war crimes merits no mention.
IF Obama loses the nomination because he said something that's factually sound but people don't want to hear, this country is in so much worse shape than I thought. Screw Clinton and the pundits for making it sound like he's condescending and against religion. He never said the only way people will have faith is if they're in dire straits and they all know it.
Carter has declared his intent to speak to Hamas leadership.
Expect this gentle man, this REAL peace dove, to be emasculated by the media pundits.
Meanwhile, the people from Iran-Contra, who sold Iran advanced weapons so that the American hostages would be released 1 day AFTER Carter stepped down as president and (saintly?) reagan was sworn in.... then and only then the Iranians, as per the deal with the American far right rogue elements in US government, released the hostages... even though they WANTED to release them much sooner.
So -what happened to these people who sold Iran American weapons to release hostages late to embarrass Carter?
Ah - they are now RULING this country, while Carter is villified.
Is any one surprised by the flap over Obama's
"bitterness" comment?
He was and is coming close to knocking Hillary out
of the game,thus ending one of the best story lines
the media have had for years. If this non-event
can give Hillary a boost in Penn. the saga continues,
if not it is certainly over. As long as it continues, teflon
John is the beneficiary because the media can continue
to give him the ultimate free ride. In addition to that
sooner or later the great take down has to start.
Obama has been golden since Iowa, as much a media product as any candidate has ever been.
Having helped create his persona, the boys that made him will start taking him apart.
Don't you just love it?
Just watched the first half hour of Meet the Press, which dealt exclusively with Obama and Clinton. You've got two Republicans (including pure propagandist Matalin), an Obama backer, and a Clinton backer, so no matter which of the candidates is being discussed, you've got three critical voices against and one in support. There's no way either of them can come out looking anything but bad with the deck stacked like that. Guaranteed McCain isn't put under the same microscope.
And of course no REAL issues are being discussed at all.
Mr. and Mrs. White House Iraq Group. This pair were very tiresosme a very long time ago. Any television show should have more decency than continue to have these two people on air.
Mugsy @ 23:
What even most frightwingers dot realize is that Bush is dead in the water on the Tibet issue. The Chinese own his ass and he will show up at Olympics if they say so. Bush cant try the tough talking cowboy crap on the Chinese anymore. Little matter of billions in demand loans supporting his dirty little war. He pisses off Bejing ? Chinese could bankrupt the USA the next day if they choose to. I imagine the Chinese stashed a few hunks of metal from Ground Zero too for a little added insurance in case Bush gets too far out of line on them... HILARIOUS
Col Kilgore @ 49:
As we type, Asia has already taken over the globe as the lone superpower that doesn't need 70 or 80% of it's budget used for military. They rule, and the world knows it. The days of the US being number 1 are over, and it's now onto being a banana republic much like England is. Some power, but mostly ignored. Batten down the hatches, the worst is yet to come.
Ah yes the ol sunday morning bobbing their heads up and down on our laps shows. Has any one checked caville to see if he has a heartbeat? Does he have to sleep with that bag of wind matalin? Does she blow wind up his ass the way she attemps to do to us? I can see this same kind of crap in the old ww2 newsreels about japan and germany, propaganda,spin, bs by the bucketfull! Well timmaa its going to be a close race, Bullshit! If the gop and the criminals think that the "boy that was a close election due to this or that" crap is going to fly this time around, they are in for a big fucking suprize! Grab your pitch forks people and get ready to march on washington. I would not believe vote counts unless I counted each and every one! I urge everyone with a video cam to tape all steps and all ballot boxs, counting votes,transporting ballot boxs,storeing ballot boxs, test and retest and observe all those damn voting machines,**** pay close attention to exit polls!!! they are the key to how honest the vote count is! If the exit polls say one thing and their count says another, they are tring to fuck us again! Remember exit polls are the way they check elections for honest counts in other countrys. If the two don't match, then their is a skunk somewhere in the count, and do not!,do not!!! buy into the bullshit "gee bill kristol why do you think the exit polls where so far off? well timmaa I think that mainstream voters-blah,blah,blah. GOP ,MSN we warn you now this shit will not fly this time around!! Remember fellow citizens the exit polls will tell, if we need to raise hell!!! or as in the doors song "fuck me two times, your going away". ceo
Bayh just said: "It's likely he just misspoke." Bayh didn't say: But we're going to take advantage of it anyway.
JC
You are right no real issues EXCEPT Matalin is pushing the point that Obama's word usage would make him lose to McCain. She has tried to push this twice and both times was smacked down by Bob Shrum. Make no mistake, this is what Clinton is going to be harping on in the next few weeks. Seems Matalin has either ignored or refuses to admit that Hillary has "misspoken" on several issues. Of course, it is okay for Clinton because she covers her "misspeak" with the comment "I am human".
aquarius2 @ 53:
Or "tired".......LOL.......she's so tired she doesn't remember facts or truths....incoming sniper fire!! Just remember, whenever there is anywhere in the world, too dangerous for a Prez of the US to visit, the policy is to send the first lady!! Laura Bush will be in Iraq Friday I guess.
It seems to me nearly all journalists have became pundits. I'm nostalgic for the time there was a distinction between the two. It's America's loss.
Once again Sunday morning talk is proving that MTP does not know a single political or relevant journalist. Same old tired bunch that bring nothing insightful to the conversation. Wolf Blitzer is beyond pathetic; making a mountain out of Obama's truthful boservation and then following up with an appearance by Lieberman. A complete waste of airtime and electricity.
king of mean @ 3:
I guess for balance they added the Left wing player for the Washington Capitals
it seems to me we ought to stop eating each others lunch weather clinton or obamas going to save our ass in november ! cause diebolds who were running againast not mccdrools ! the shits in the wind bros and you better wake up ,
Did no one else notice that Hadley kept referring to "Nepal" when he really meant "Tibet?" This does NOT make me very confident in this guy. But then, Dubya chose him so what else can I expect?
ConcernedCanuck @ 54:
It never fails to amaze me that there are so many Democrats who get angry that the other Democratic candidate (the one they don't support) didn't get a proper bashing on a show like this. Does it not bother you that McCain gets a pass and is never put under scrutiny? Wake up, folks! Keep focusing on the battle (Dem vs. Dem) and we're going to lose the war (Dem vs Repub). We've got to keep up the pressure on the MSM that they dissect every word that comes out of McCain's mouth in the same way they do Democrats. I'm tired of endless clips and soundbites and pundit discussions of every Democratic speech while McCain is allowed to continue his walk in the park.
JC
Sure it bothers me that McCain is getting almost a free pass, but first things first. Until this blasted nomination process is finished this is going to be the "news". The press is loving it and very little is written about what the Dem candidates have to say about McCain. FYI, I don't have the actual speeches, but Obama has made some strong statements about McCain. He has taken on both Clinton and McCain whereas Clinton just keeps her focus on Obama
aquarius2 @ 61:
I agree but with just one correction: Obama has had to take on three Clintons: Bill, Hillary and Chelsea. That can't be easy.
Instead of 'you've got your Tiger Woods, we've got McCain' he should have said, and few would have objected: 'You've got your Cadillac, we have our Trabant (substitute Yugo, for those unfamiliar with Trabant).
Sombody IN MASSE needs to tell Meet the Press that it is as bad as FOX tv.
What part of "stack three Hillary supporters" against "one Obama defender" do they not understand is patently UNFAIR?
Is this a quid pro quo to support the Carville/Matellin K Street PAC????
I am so sick to death of this kind of show it infuriates me and I turn it off.
Oh by the way, to Carville who may read this: THIS is why I won't vote for your candidate.
Your time has passed. You have grown rich and morphed into Republicans. No wonder you married that monster.
I forgot.
These Clinton guys are all about GLOBALISM.
Want to loose your rights as a sovereign nation?
Keep globalists in power. McCain and Hillary are BOTH globalists.
Who needs a Constitution when your country is a property of the World Bank?
I was watching Stephanopoulos who had on Stephen Hadley, after Jimmy Carter who supports talking to our enemies, in this case Hamas. Hadley insists before talking to Hamas, they must first meet certain preconditions. That is like going to a car dealer who insists that first you must agree to pay $30,000 for the car and then we'll negotiate a price.
But then he continues that Bush will go to China for the Olympics because there must be diplomacy in the affairs with Nepal.
What's the difference here?
Before I switch over to TVLAND'S "Leave it to Beaver" Marathon Sunday because I need a chuckle, I have to say the most disturbing thing I heard among all the talking heads today was that Clinton's premier sycophant, Wesley Clark, might be on the short list as VP for Obama. If that were to actually happen, I'd simply ask Obama for a refund of all my prior contributions to his primary campaign, and wish him luck in the fall without me.
#67
What is it about Wesley Clark that upsets you so much?
ronhohn @ 68:
Really, that would be a very wise move, especially if McCain chooses Condo Rice as VP.
Firestarter5 @ 19:
FN: And we're back......During the break you mentioned that the 'surge' has brought alot of stability to Iraq and you are hoping the Democrats dont cut and run. My question to you is could you ever win the Stanley Cup if you adopted the surrender tactics of Democrats?
AO: Ummmm........we are hoping to advance past the first round and think we have the right team to go all the way this year.
FN: As long as you stay committed to the mission and dont give up on your goal, right?
AO: Ummm.....yea, thats pretty much it.
Q: Well, we thank you for coming in today, and good luck in the playoffs.
AO: Thanks.
FN: Back you Chris
The Obama watch is creepy because the first black POTUS wasn't Bill Clinton but David Palmer, who was assassinated. Wasn't that the season when the President was arrested in the White House? I can't believe I am living through this tyrannical regime. The dark cloud of cognitive dissonance is so thick. Just watching TV, talking to friends and family. What happend to the hunt for Osama Bin Laden? Nine Eleven, never forget? Why are we still in Iraq after the War ended? Why has happened to our economy. If I were you I'd stock up on canned goods. I believe we are about to enter the most tumultous period ever in our history. USA! USA! USA!
I like Wes Clark. Hes smart, articulate and his own man. The frightwing are quick to condemn Clark for standing up to the Russians in Bosnia over the disputed airfield but
they don't condemn Bush for bending over for the Chinese. That was to be expected though.
Meet the Press has on all these supposed political 'experts' and I don't think any of them got the true meaning of Obama's comments correct. I understood PERFECTLY what Obama meant by his guns and religion comment and it made perfect sense to me. In my estimation, he was addressing the Republican tactic of "Gods, Guns, Gays" ---- and pointing out that people are soooooooo damned frustrated and bitter at being ignored and left behind by the government that rather than focus on and vote on the issues that really impact their lives - they are easily distracted by the politics of religion and guns........
Now that is not only the truth BUT a winning argument IF articulated correctly!
McCain should consider Alberto Gonzles as his running mate.
Word is that the unfortunate fellow cannot land a job, even the Heritage Foundation is full of "Senior Fellows", and no room for Gonzo.
Imagine that, going from the highest Law Enforcement official in the land to invisible man.
Not even Faux Noise wants the guy!
ronhohn @ 68:
Bosnia, Yugoslavia and Kosovo. The Clintons have Bush beat by a mile when it comes to taking the U.S. to war based on manufactured intelligence. But the true story of that war won't be told for at least 20 years and best saved for another thread. In the meantime Wesley Clark is little more than a cheap pimp in my opinion.
I would like to propose an MSM media boycott. until they return to reporting and the cessation of spinning. Who's with me?
From now on, we can let amato watch the news for us.
Please spread the word. NO more msm.
Col Kilgore @ 72:
In a Democracy Now! exclusive, General Wesley Clark responds for the first time to in-depth questions about his targeting of civilian infrastructure in Yugoslavia, his bombing of Radio Television Serbia, the use of cluster bombs and depleted uranium, the speeding-up of the cockpit video of a bombing of a passenger train to make it appear as though it was an accident and other decisions he made and orders he gave as NATO’s Supreme Allied Commander.
http://www.democracynow.org/2004/1/26/exclusive_democracy_now_confronts_...
Mugsy @ 35:
It's not. It's just a little more thoughtful.
Mugsy @ 28:
Juan Williams: Further evidence that he and his self righteous MSM droids are out of touch with real people and "look down their nose" at everyone outside the Capitol Beltway. People like him are a disgrace to what's left of their profession.
John Aravosis' Neighbor Barbara @ 59:
Absolutely!!! I know you could just say it's a simple mistake, but he did it THREE times in the interview. And he's the National Security Advisor???
Again and again, it really isn't just Bush co. are blood-thristy criminals, they're incompetent!
To rusted spear@76 Right with you on this one, I have long ago blocked out msm using child channel blocker barring obscene content, works great, try old bugs bunny cartoons, you get more important information and a much more reliable opinion and the lead msm stars are all their,porky pig,elmer fudd,daffy duck. And no one really dies on bugs show, plus bullshit and spin is easy to spot.
#75
General Wesley Clark was a 4-star general in the United States Army, with Bill Clinton as CiC. His responsibility was to carry out orders which he did effectively. Kosovo was a NATO undertaking, and we are part of NATO.
robbie @ 42:
Wallace pressed Hayden on the issue as well... three times... and never got a straight answer.
CEO,citizens,eyes,open maybe, we can spread a boycott, by word of mouth/blog... at least for a month.... if only a fraction of democrats did it. the msm bs echo chamber will take notice when ratings start to flatline....
Stephen Hadley flat out CONFUSED NEPAL WITH TIBET ON THIS WEEK THIS MORNING AND STEPHANOPOULOS JUST LET IT PASS WITHOUT BATTING AN EYE.
WHAT'S WITH THESE SCHMUCKS?!!
ronhohn @ 82:
The world according to CNN. Note to moderators: I'm sorry to contribute to thread drift but this one deserves a response. The "Kosovo" war is the war that Bill Clinton lied to get us into. And speaking of NATO...while under the watchful eye of NATO’s Kosovo Forces since 1999, more than 150 Serbian Orthodox churches and monasteries have been destroyed or desecrated and dozens of new mosques have been built — including the Osama bin Laden mosque. And just this week the U.S. government announced that it will provide arms to Kosovo, a quasi-government comprised mostly of former KLA...an organization that was only recently removed from State Department's list of international terrorist organizations.
to rusty@84 Iam in, from one flew over the cuckoos nest, alright, which one of you nuts has got any guts!
How do US Casualties in Kosovo stack up against US Casualties in Iraq, little factually-challenged fella?
That's what I thought. Ya got bupkis.
Take your factually-challenged/fundamentally-dishonest/ shrub-shilling slop to where the climate suits your sheet, schmuck.
NOW it all makes sense:
http://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2008other/080412clinton.htm
Bill Clinton had heart bypass surgey, and apparently that operation changes your brain and causes brain damage. Seriously.
Leslie @ 6:
Fewer than Faux is gonna take to figure it out.
I've been playing and following hockey since the days of "Jesus Saves! Espo scores on the rebound." Ovechkin is as good as it gets, but they're down 2-0 after two. If they've got 2-3 guys checking Ovechkin, Semin, Backstrom or Federov have got to be open and get it done. If they have 1-2 on Ovechkin, he's gonna score, but they best get crackin'.
FOX hit the streets to try and find people angry about the word 'bitter'
what they found instead was that everyone agrees with Obama, even people who arent voting for him:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/4/13/133215/180/386/494887
My favorite talking head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlLPIXVsJ2A&feature=related
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYbUCvz1LYE
Obama is right. People are bitter! Really they mad as hell!
Former President Jimmy Carter shining the light on the Israeli Palestinian conflict again. Oh yeah the Israeli lobby got pissed off today. You can bet your ass our Reps are going to hear from the I-lobby big this week after what Jimmy has been brave enough to do and say about the I/P conflict.
Just go check out the Aipac website weekly to see the lies that are being repeated about Iran. Go check out where the Lobby puts their focus on watch our middle east foreign policy.
Call your Reps tell them that Jimmy Carter is the best friend Israel has ever had. Demand that Israel stop expanding illegal settlements , get back to the 67 border, sign the Non proliferation treaty and open up their massive stockpiles of nuclear, biological and chemical weapons to the same inspections that Israel wants Iran to abide by.
Demand that Israel play by the same rules that they demand that other nations in that region abide by.
“Palestine Peace: Not Apartheid” is a must read.
Jimmy is the best friend Israel has ever had. Although Norman Finklestein, Amy Goodman, Bishop Tutu, Mordechai Vanunu, Art and Peggy Gish, Congressman Moran, Senator Hagel, Former Congressman Findlay, and many more continue to speak truth to power in regard to the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
Former President Carter was shining the spotlight on this issue on “This Wekk” this morning. Talking about one of the most critical issues in the middle east that many (even those liberal is the blogosphere) avoid at all cost.
Watch and listen to Jimmy this morning
http://abcnews.go.com/politics
Watch and listen to folks rip up former President Jimmy Carter this coming week. Carter is willing to grab a hold of a live wire that most others do everything to avoid...The truth about the I/P conflict.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5htkIGKWHr_ih91T9tMhWkRT3ovMg
http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0414/p01s05-wome.html
Here is the headline at Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,348989,00.html
State Department: Carter Meeting With Terrorists Not 'in the Interest of Peace'
Jimmy Carter will be taking repeated hits from the Israel Can Do No Wrong types.
Until Americans set/put Israeli Palestine occupation corruption/policy perversion in restraining boundaries much of what Americans desire or seek in ME(oil,stable Arab politics,contained Iran etc.) will not be possible or reachable.
American/Israeli relationship now fully laced with worst of stupid,ignorant Americanism which when combined with terrible Israeli tactics, militarism conduct and goals in/for Palestine,Lebanon and all of ME can only lead Americans where USA will have no moral,ethical or political suasion in ME. See Iraq. See looming American debacle with Iran.
Israel surely is wrong on the hows,whys and whats of Israeli policies and practices in Palestine and for long term Israeli ME prosperity and norms of existence. The stench from this ongoing Israeli disregard of justice and fairness,this insistent Israeli wrongness will in the end undermine any legitimacy Israel ever had to begin with.
American stupid imperialism combined/conjured with Israeli brutal/illegal imperialism is recipe for very bad outcome for Israel and USA in ME.
Jimmy Carter will be attacked and ridiculed wrongly by the thugs,gangsters and religionists who blindly wallow in short sighted stupidity and have no moral/ethical capacity.
Expect American mainstream political media to apply full pro Israel tilt/slant,propaganda and abuse or denial of facts to support the blind pro-Israel thugs attack on Jimmy Carter.
American ignorance/arrogance for/over Israel when combined with rampant American militarism is truly dangerous for long term ME goals of Americans.
Message for Americans--wise up or expect even worse to come.
DC @ 93:
I wouldn't know, I never tasted any.
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