There is one person talking sense, all the others sound like wankers.

I'm sorry. I know this is totally inappropriate. And I have the utmost respect for Rachel and her accomplishments and her relationship and her smarts and her insights. So I'm so sorry to have to say this, but I just have to.

Rachel Maddow is hot.

Joe Scarborough is a dumbass. 'Failed to connect'....really? Really Joe?

And Republican's like him aren't elite? Really? Really Joe?

Looks like old Scar has reverted to his old talking-point spewing self.

It's a scary day when the obvious truth becomes a bold statement.

Thank you for posting this, but I think the money shot is:

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Oh, no doubt about it. Democrats lose because blue-collar workers vote against their economic interests time and time again....

Even Scarborough knows that what Obama said, taken in context, is absolutely true. One of these days, blue-collar voters are going to figure out guys like Scarborough are laughing their asses off at them.

Don Davis @ 1:

Holy Christ! Jesus Backs Up Obama on 'Small Towns'

Yeah, but what does Jesus' General have to say about it?

As it turns out...nothing. But he does have a great, virile and manly post on predatorofascism.

And for those of you who don't spend half of their monthly haul on rent, the General fell a bit short on his quarterly fundraising efforts. He's a very funny and worthy cause. Just sayin'....

thanks Rachel, I was starting to question my sanity lately

It's about ratings. The MSM knows Obama's got this thing in the bag. They're just trying to keep people interested in the crap they're peddling.

KyleXY @ 15:

Maddow should be wearing an Obama sticker. She is his useful tool.

Obama said people use faith and guns to fall back on because they are "bitter."

Condescending and elitist.

This Democrat will never vote for snobby Obama.

lol

yeah, as clinton pointed out, obama could never win because he's too much like kerry and gore.....

haha

you clintonistas have fallen off the deep end

Rachel has nailed the issue. The others are still trying to pin Obama to the mat. They get it it, they just don't want to let it go. Kind of like a rat and a terrier. On the good side, they are the terrier and not the rat. At least at this point.

Absolutely right on!
The same applies to so many of Obama's reported "gaffes" and even Rev Wrights comments.
Lets discuss the real issues for a change!!!

KyleXY @ 15:

Maddow should be wearing an Obama sticker. She is his useful tool.

Obama said people use faith and guns to fall back on because they are "bitter."

Condescending and elitist.

This Democrat will never vote for snobby Obama.

Yeah , vote for the stupid old white guy , who was born into a high-ranking military family , and who cheated on and divorced his faithful wife for a young ,empty headed bimbo , who financed the beginnings of his whole poltical career ; there's the story of a "maverick" and something the "average American" can certainly relate to..........

Rachel Maddow is head and shoulders above every other pundit and political analyst out there (in TV Land that is). And yes, that especially includes that Edward Murrow wanna-be and all-around blowhard, Olberman.

She mops the floor with Scarborough every time. She makes it look so easy and seamless, makes you wonder why all the other left-wing pundits have such a hard time at it. On wait... what other left-wing pundits?!

Despite the LameStream media's desperate attempts to help Hillary score 1 or 2 points next Tuesday, this story will probably not last beyond the average American's short term attention span of about two days.

MCMetal @ 24:

KyleXY @ 15:

Maddow should be wearing an Obama sticker. She is his useful tool.

Obama said people use faith and guns to fall back on because they are "bitter."

Condescending and elitist.

This Democrat will never vote for snobby Obama.

Yeah , vote for the stupid old white guy , who was born into a high-ranking military family , and who cheated on and divorced his faithful wife for a young ,empty headed bimbo , who financed the beginnings of his whole poltical career ; there's the story of a "maverick" and something the "average American" can certainly relate to..........

You forgot, "called his wife a c*** in public". I think some "average Americans" can relate to this, as well.

Oh, thank you, Rachel! Fan-fucking-tastic!

And as for whether Senator Clinton might actually agree with Senator Obama's sentiments, I don't know. But President Clinton does.

I'm getting really tired of people like Rachel Maddow constantly trying to tell us "what Obama really meant to say," as though the good senator from Illinois needs an interpreter and we don't understand English. She's supposed to be one of MSNBC's political analysts, not an on-air apologist for the Obama campaign.

Donald from Hawaii @ 33:

I'm getting really tired of people like Rachel Maddow constantly trying to tell us "what Obama really meant to say," as though the good senator from Illinois needs an interpreter and we don't understand English. She's supposed to be one of MSNBC's political analysts, not an on-air apologist for the Obama campaign.

She only has to be there explaining what Obama meant because the rest of the media distorts what he says. She's correcting the media, as this clip shows.

(It distorts Senator Clinton as well.)

Wow, Maddow is too smart to be on TV, I don't think she'll last long, or at least she'll never rise above a liberal talking head.

Scarborough essentially said, "Yeah, I know that what he meant is exactly correct, but because he used words that could be easily taken to be insulting, I have a responsibility to blow that out of proportion and point out that his words don't connect with people on a gut level."

Donald from Hawaii @ 33:

I'm getting really tired of people like Rachel Maddow constantly trying to tell us "what Obama really meant to say," as though the good senator from Illinois needs an interpreter and we don't understand English. She's supposed to be one of MSNBC's political analysts, not an on-air apologist for the Obama campaign.

I think her point is that media is not at all focusing on what he said, as opposed to focusing on how the media is focusing on what he said.

Arianna's HP blog brought down Obama with bittergate and attacks Clinton ruthlessly.

Is she still a neocon?

People need to stop attacking Clinton.

If she is the nominee, the so called progressive blogs and MSNBC are helping the gop with these attacks.

Their bias has backfired and it is time to stop the attacks.

abarts @ 40:

IF Sen Obama is the selected Dem nominee, the GOP will shred him.

If Sen Obama is the selected Dem nominee, the GOP will shred him.

Insert anyone in the stricken section, and the sentence remains equally true.

Anyone. Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Dennis Kucinich, Joe Lieberman, Chuck Hagel, Ronald Reagan, George Washington, General George S. Patton, Jesus Christ. It doesn't matter.

abarts @ 40:

IF Sen Obama is the selected Dem nominee, the GOP will shred him. They've been oddly silent while he and Sen Clinton fight amoungst themselves.

No, they've been oddly silent about Senator Clinton. McCain has had plenty to say about Obama. McCain is silent about Senator Clinton because he wants to run against her.

People in small towns connected with Dubya on a "gut level"

So they voted for his stupid ass

Thanks, Jackasses!

Joe says it all! Maddow is out to lunch. Her leap to try to defend him obviously clouded her brain. I don't know what clip she saw but it wasn't Barack Obamas clip from the SF fund raiser everyone else saw. BO was trying to psyco analize small town USA as he did in the South Side of Chicago. He exploited the Poor Great.Great,Great Great,Great Grandsons and Daughters of slavery in Chicago to the point he is running for president and giving Rev.Wright a 10 million dollar house. Those who cling to his religion and the guns of violence in Chicago because they are bitter with his politics in Chicago he united or should I say "community organized" them against White American Politics and God Damn America. What he is discribing is his world not that of SMALL TOWN USA. Watch the tape Maddow!

ricksramblings @ 51:

Joe says it all! Maddow is out to lunch. Her leap to try to defend him obviously clouded her brain. I don't know what clip she saw but it wasn't Barack Obamas clip from the SF fund raiser everyone else saw. BO was trying to psyco analize small town USA as he did in the South Side of Chicago. He exploited the Poor Great.Great,Great Great,Great Grandsons and Daughters of slavery in Chicago to the point he is running for president and giving Rev.Wright a 10 million dollar house. Those who cling to his religion and the guns of violence in Chicago because they are bitter with his politics in Chicago he united or should I say "community organized" them against White American Politics and God Damn America. What he is discribing is his world not that of SMALL TOWN USA. Watch the tape Maddow!

Parallel universe, right?

McMetal

"Yeah , vote for the stupid old white guy , who was born into a high-ranking military family , and who cheated on and divorced his faithful wife for a young ,empty headed bimbo , who financed the beginnings of his whole poltical career ; there’s the story of a “maverick” and something the “average American” can certainly relate to………."

Congratulations McMetal....Your quote is one of the best descriptions I've ever seen about John McCain. Is that your quote....or is that a fantastic quote from our Rachel Maddow?>?

Please, where did you come up with that wording. I've already copied it and emailed to myself. I want to post it everywhere.

Thanks

It's absolutely hilarious to watch Joe try to suggest the Republican's are fiscally more responsible than the democrats. Where has he been the last 8 years?

abarts @ 40:

IF Sen Obama is the selected Dem nominee, the GOP will shred him. They've been oddly silent while he and Sen Clinton fight amoungst themselves.

I'm not buying your stupid "gop shred" comment one bit. You should learn to spell moron.

If as Joe claims,Obama hasn't "connected to the people on a gut level" it is certainly due in large part to the media's refusal--by way of these over blown stories--to allow him to do so.Its the unrealistic standard they insist he must operate within that sets him up for the big fall.Where are the media's expectations for McCain?How hard is it for him to stumble given their fawning attention and failure to hold him accountable?While Obama's statements are being increasingly subjected to an almost forensic attention to minute detail,McCain is permitted one stunningly uninformed statement after another,with barely a yawn by way of reaction.

so joe proves rachel's point, yet obama needs to connect with the guts of small town america????

and he wasnt in sf....it was marin....seperated by a bridge

oooooh....trying to scare america again

fuck joe

obama will be prez, and he will be in gitmo

abarts @ 40:

IF Sen Obama is the selected Dem nominee, the GOP will shred him. They've been oddly silent while he and Sen Clinton fight amoungst themselves.

Why get down and dirty when Hillary will do it for you?

Hey, I heard her say on the radio the other day that she thinks McCain will be elected. I think so too.
The media and the powers that be have decided who they will allow us to have. The will not allow us to have a Democratic president.

The only way Democrats could overcome that even withe the GOP as hated as it now is is to run a very smart campaign, getting behind one candidate when it became clear the others had no chance, and presenting a unified front, not fighting amongst ourselves. I say this as an Edwards supporter, not an Obama-bot as some of you would likely have accused.

The Democrats are in the process of blowing any chance they had. The corporate media deserves 80% of the blame, but the Democrats are blowing their 20% chance.

President McCain - get used to the sound of it - it will take a miracle at this point for it not to happen.

She'd make this straight man consider a sex change. She's a beautiful woman, but her MIND is so freaking brilliant, and that's sexy.

ace @ 59:

abarts @ 40:

IF Sen Obama is the selected Dem nominee, the GOP will shred him. They've been oddly silent while he and Sen Clinton fight amoungst themselves.

I'm not buying your stupid "gop shred" comment one bit. You should learn to spell moron.

I can spell moron. In this case it's a c e.
It's amoungst I had a problem with.

Asshole.

WHOA, please delete my last comment, it was a cut and paste error, NOT an attempt to spam!!! PLEASE IGNORE THE LINK IN MY ABOVE COMMENT.

[FIFY, Craig, and I didn't even check the link. It was to some kind of porn, right? ;D Site Monitor]

Joe Scarborough:

The media has bent over backwards to help Obama.

Uh, Joe, the media were bent over backwards so McCain could drive it in, between bites at his barbecue. The only times they bend over for Obama are when they try to gain leverage to drive the knife in. If you would divert your attention away from your effete and elite Blackberry, and put down your latte with your limp wrist, you might get a clue.

We are sheeps being led to the slaughter. We live in punditville where history and context are commodities just like milk and soap. Were herded to the voting booth with the nooses around our neck. This is where were at.

Candidates can't reflect, they must regurgitate..., they can't analyze, they must kiss ass.

I am not an Obama supporter. I wil vote for him despite his big $ connections and policy limitations because his rhetoric is transforming the narrative of American politics more than I've ever seen a truly mainstream candidate do so in my lifetime.
If Hillary gets the nomination, I will vote for myself. She's more Lieberman than Wellstone.

Craig @ 67:

Hey, I heard her say on the radio the other day that she thinks McCain will be elected. I think so too.
The media and the powers that be have decided who they will allow us to have. The will not allow us to have a Democratic president.

The only way Democrats could overcome that even withe the GOP as hated as it now is is to run a very smart campaign, getting behind one candidate when it became clear the others had no chance, and presenting a unified front, not fighting amongst ourselves. I say this as an Edwards supporter, not an Obama-bot as some of you would likely have accused.

The Democrats are in the process of blowing any chance they had. The corporate media deserves 80% of the blame, but the Democrats are blowing their 20% chance.

President McCain - get used to the sound of it - it will take a miracle at this point for it not to happen.

I've been thinking the exact same thing. The DNC is so confident that Dems will win on merits alone, that they are ignoring the evidence that we are losing in the public arena. The Dem candidates MUST stop attacking each other and attack McCain instead.

President McCain - get used to the sound of it - it will take a miracle at this point for it not to happen.

and with it the Supreme Court for more than enough time to seal us in this theofascist death spiral. No saving it. This was a great and mighty nation. It took a lot for the new right conservatism to destroy it but they did.

What shall we change the name to?

"The Torturing States of America"

TSA! TSA! TSA!

Ponder @ 80:

President McCain - get used to the sound of it - it will take a miracle at this point for it not to happen.

and with it the Supreme Court for more than enough time to seal us in this theofascist death spiral. No saving it. This was a great and mighty nation. It took a lot for the new right conservatism to destroy it but they did.

What shall we change the name to?

"The Torturing States of America"

TSA! TSA! TSA!

Undeterred Sociopaths of America?

Joe the Scar has it back-asswards. Its the media, stupid! He, the questionable human, societally given elitist level jerk and media personality jester, thinks we are stupid, tries to say its conduct through words that makes the man so Obama is elitist. Maybe in some ways we are ingnorant, but we will remain open. Give it to us. Give us the truth.

But we remember things like dead interns! What is the truth? Where should I put that little tid-bit?

[FIFY, Craig, and I didn’t even check the link. It was to some kind of porn, right? ;D Site Monitor]

Yes, yes it was. It was a link to the RNC website. I apologize for the obscenity.

KyleXY @ 15:

Maddow should be wearing an Obama sticker. She is his useful tool.

Obama said people use faith and guns to fall back on because they are "bitter."

Condescending and elitist.

This Democrat will never vote for snobby Obama.

So mr democrat that will never vote for snobby Obama,you need to turn your card in ,hateful,lying people like you got no business being in the democratic party,you karl rove wannabe can go cast a vote for mc cain.

Maddow should be wearing an Obama sticker. She is his useful tool.

Obama said people use faith and guns to fall back on because they are “bitter.”

Condescending and elitist.

This Democrat will never vote for snobby Obama.

If you think Obama is stupid enough to say that in a campaign, even if he DID think it, then you are an idiot.
Here's a little hint, Chester - YOUR TEEVEE IS LYING TO YOU.

Hemlock for Gadflies @ 4:

I'm sorry. I know this is totally inappropriate. And I have the utmost respect for Rachel and her accomplishments and her relationship and her smarts and her insights. So I'm so sorry to have to say this, but I just have to.

Rachel Maddow is hot.

I'm a straight female, and I completely agree. Part of what makes her so hot are all the attributes you just mentioned. Smart is sexy.

The slaves of America where also clinging to religion. The religion brought on to them, by their oppressors. Why? Because it made them feel free, and it kept them from the need of real freedom.
Nothing new; Christianity was brought upon the slaves of Rome as well, for the same political reason.
Religion makes the oppressed happy in missery.
If the sheep have grass, they don’t kick the dog.

I get the point of what you're saying, but as an atheist in the US, I gotta tell ya, it's a little hard to see Christians in America being an oppressed minority.

Totally agree. God forbid a candidate even begin to speak about how and why main stream america has elected tyrants. Hey hey, my my, sycophantism has got to die!

Cas @ 93:

The slaves of America where also clinging to religion. The religion brought on to them, by their oppressors. Why? Because it made them feel free, and it kept them from the need of real freedom.
Nothing new; Christianity was brought upon the slaves of Rome as well, for the same political reason.
Religion makes the oppressed happy in missery.
If the sheep have grass, they don't kick the dog.

sarik @ 27:

Joe Scarborough is such a piece of crap. Did you catch the part where he referred to the Republicans as "us"?
Rachel is the only cogent voice on television. Even Keith O is not as well-spoken.

Hey watch it with those Keith words? It is pretty obvious you are starting to betray the rational part that controls the idiot within. I like Rachel too and her and Keith make two!

Obama sounded great today, and I really only listen to the mainstream media to see the John McCain angle being played. Man, that guy gets no questions, no looks into his politicial past by the MSM and uber attention on Hillary and Barack trading barbs or other irrelevant newsbites.

I cant even watch the video above, as much as I like Rachel its Scar that I cannot tolerate. The guy is your typical, right wing media schmuck, youd think someone from the GOP would get tired of being represented by this incredible array of right wing media losers who act at their behest.

But then again, if I were a Republican, its something I'd only whisper to my fellow Kool Aid drinkers

The really interesting thing is seeing viewpoints I share being called "elitist."

I have an 8th grade education. At 11 years old an abandoned, malnourished, abused child. Several disabilities make me unable to work. One of them (PTSD) has seen me in psych wards from time to time. Teetering on homeless. Before my disability came through you could have seen me lined up at soup kitchens. Now that I have the disability, I get by on $12k a year.

If I'm in the elite, then hot damn - everybody is!

xargaw @ 81:

Rachel has more smarts than anyone on cable. Give this woman her won show, please! Just imagine, if there was a host this bright anchoring a complete hour everyday, steering the conversation to the important issues. On second thought, that is probably the MSM's worst nightmare.

Far more important they give the show to Turdblossom's dancing partner. Gregory sucks. "I *am* letting you speak, Rachel." The condescending MoFo. God does he make me sick.

Maddow has more brains in her pinky than the rest of them in that clip combined.

.

Plus she sure talk pretty.

Craig @ 103:

The really interesting thing is seeing viewpoints I share being called "elitist."

I have an 8th grade education. At 11 years old an abandoned, malnourished, abused child. Several disabilities make me unable to work. One of them (PTSD) has seen me in psych wards from time to time. Teetering on homeless. Before my disability came through you could have seen me lined up at soup kitchens. Now that I have the disability, I get by on $12k a year.

If I'm in the elite, then hot damn - everybody is!

Wow you've had a rough go of it mate. All the best to you, hope your luck picks up, as it likely gets worse before better economically (and otherwise) for us all. The path the U.S.S. America is on has us headed straight for the rocks . Someone grab the damn wheel!!

Paul Fox @ 96:

Check out minute 5:07 as Joe says "or even when we got elected" refers to Republican landslide in '94. Also at 5:27 Joe says "they didn't give a damn what OUR economic package was" refers to same Republican landslide in '94. I was a journalist at one time, he would have been kicked off the staff for this type of partisanism. If he wants to be known as a Journalist-he's not. If he wants to come out and say he's a Republican hack, then OK.

Joe was elected to congress in 94 from Florida. He is correctly using "we" and "us" in that context.

Put your journalism experience to work and try to Google before you post. Just sayin'...

Hemlock for Gadflies @ 4:

I'm sorry. I know this is totally inappropriate. And I have the utmost respect for Rachel and her accomplishments and her relationship and her smarts and her insights. So I'm so sorry to have to say this, but I just have to.

Rachel Maddow is hot.

It is easy to acknowledge her brilliance, compassion and value system. She is a beacon of light, in an otherwise drab cut-throat political world. It is difficult to overlook the fact she is a beautiful woman. However, it must be kept in perspective. First, and foremost, she is a person of compassion, who is committed to resolving many of the issues which are plaguing our Country.

Just saw this on nightline about the "obama statement" if ( never happen ) the rest of the "oh we know so much media" starts to see how utter stupid their idea of what IS the feeling of working class america they'll see what he was trying to say and not what they wanted to hear. Hilary and Mccrazy won't know working class if it kicked them in the ass

Oh Gawd, SCAR is intolerable, but I am listening to Rachel. SCAR is a complete and utter partisan hack with nary a clue

Maddow NAILS it when she correctly states its a media caricature, THANKS for being a lone wolf of reason

Did Scarborough just admit that the interests of blue collar people are better served by the Democratic Party?

KyleXY @ 15:

Maddow should be wearing an Obama sticker. She is his useful tool.

Obama said people use faith and guns to fall back on because they are "bitter."

Condescending and elitist.

This Democrat will never vote for snobby Obama.

How pathetically sad your drivel is. You either didn't read the whole quote or you're incapable of comprehending it. But Democrat? I don't think so. Troll somewhere else.

DHSmd @ 91:

Thank God for the tiny sliver of face time in that farce of a segment that Rachel Maddow was allowed to get a rational word in edge-wise. Now, all we have to do is hope anyone who might be conned into voting against Obama due to the ludicrous spin being placed on his comments was able to see that, and process it thoroughly before it got completely drowned out by the trolls on the show.

I'll be interested (and a little anxious) to see how this plays out with the voters targeted by this onslaught. Will they be intelligent enough to be insulted not by Obama's words, but by the cynicism of his opponents' misuse of them, and the clear lack of respect those opponents are showing those urban voters? I grew up on the edge of rural America, and I can tell you that I would have been ticked off at the idea that someone like Hillary Clinton would think I could be played so easily. If I'd been undecided, that tactic would have sent me directly into Obama's camp.

The one thing I hated more than being unfairly characterized, it was being taken for a fool.

The voters in New hampshire were played ( oh they're picking on the girl cry cry )
the voters of Michigan/Texas ( who would you want to answer the phone at 3:00?? (scary scary)
Now it's my oppenent is an elitist because he knows you are bitter about career pols that come shake your hand and then forget all about you and cling to guns and religion because they are the bedrock of what keeps you going.
I live in a state that has one of the poorest districts in the nation and they always vote rethug I won't vote for Mccrazy or hilary because they are both bought and paid for I do not know about obama but he'll get my vote ( I was a edwards fan because he talked about what was wrong with this country would be neat to see him in the governmnet again maybe a cabinet post the next 4 years will be tough

Cat Atomic @ 118:

Did Scarborough just admit that the interests of blue collar people are better served by the Democratic Party?

Their "economic interest"

"Barack Obama hasn't yet figured out how to connect with people on a gut level.....", so says Joe Scarborough at the end of this clip. How out of touch is THIS elite talking head?!??

Obama has struck a nerve with America. He has raised more money than the rest of them, from more people than the other candidates. He draws the largest crowds, gets huge voter turnouts at primaries and caucuses, and has gotten more votes than any other candidate.

Yet we are to believe he hasn't been able to connect "on a gut level"??? Is this Orwellian-speak by Morning Joe, or am I just out to lunch???

KyleXY @ 15:

Maddow should be wearing an Obama sticker. She is his useful tool.

Obama said people use faith and guns to fall back on because they are "bitter."

Condescending and elitist.

This Democrat will never vote for snobby Obama.

"Condescending and elitist" because you say so? Whatever you're selling, I'm not buying.

Rachel was a true voice of reason on that panel. We as Americans can be so gullible and easily hypnotized by the media, and that is truly scary. What happened to critical thinking? You almost can't take ANYTHING the media puts out at face value. There's always more to the story. The media is not giving you the whole pizza. Only a slice of the pepperoni. When the majority of Americans stop being stuck on stupid, believing everything they see, hear and read without knowing the whole story, and being duped by people like Joe Scarborough, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly, maybe then will we be able to move forward as an intelligent nation.

Teddy Phuf @ 117:

odanny @ 109:

Teddy Phuf @ 77:

We are sheeps being led to the slaughter. We live in punditville where history and context are commodities just like milk and soap. Were herded to the voting booth with the nooses around our neck. This is where were at.

Candidates can't reflect, they must regurgitate..., they can't analyze, they must kiss ass.

I am not an Obama supporter. I wil vote for him despite his big $ connections and policy limitations because his rhetoric is transforming the narrative of American politics more than I've ever seen a truly mainstream candidate do so in my lifetime.
If Hillary gets the nomination, I will vote for myself. She's more Lieberman than Wellstone.

There are so many swing voters I work with that are "anyone but Hillary" voters. I know many of them wont vote. If Hillary gets the nod a true progressive candidate would get huge appeal from BOTH sides of the aisle.

Huh? If Hillary gets the nod there wont be a progressive candidate.

Huh??? There are no progressive candidates left. Kuchinich and Edwards are long gone.

I caught a snippet of Ms. Maddow's take on the Obama gaffe. The format of the program copycats Faux News Sunday to the extent that the director split-screens Hollywood Squares-like views of the other guests, allowing us to witness their reactions. (Faux News Sunday does this by intercutting, e.g. shots of Hume's "there-he-goes-again" expressions and the sappy smirk of Bloody as Juan Williams expresses quasi-liberal views.)

For all his incisive questioning of White House press secretaries before he got a chair on MSNBC (replacing a neocon idiot), David Gregory has always impressed me as a closet conservative, and this episode reinforced my suspicions. He was much too quick to jump on Rachel's take, and the split-screen allowed us to see how beedy eyes cuppa Joe was nodding in agreement.

But, really, this sort of thing gets boring in a hurry. During MSNBC commercials -- and sometimes during the programs themselves -- I sneak peaks at Faux News, which is one click over on my local cable. There, a bit later, I was treated to the most cynical, outrageous statement I think I have seen and heard on TV: Herr Karl Heinz Rove blabbing on about how Obama's "bitter" comment reflected the real Barack: "a Harvard-educated elitist."

This coming from a man who, until recently, was the brains behind a supposedly Yale-educated elitist who got caught totally naked when he admitted he didn't know what a gallon of gasoline was going for at the pump.

In that vein, it's ironic that the well-known liberal magazine, Forbes, in it's back-of-the-book page, "Thoughts," carried the following quote from Scottish comedian Billy Connolly: "Hypocrisy is the Vaseline of political intercourse." I wonder if Connolly didn't have Rove in mind.

SCAR: "When I saw those words come across the screen of my blackberry I thought, Holy Christ! This is gonna blow wide open! and then I finished off my Fat Free Skinny vinte Mocha Caramel Latte No Foam and got to work at making it so!"

Oh! Screw you, Scar! You pompous, flaming tool and complete blowhard! You didn't listen to the words or their context, you simply cherry, or in your case, blackberry-picked them and ran with it, you idiotic lackey!

Joe Scarborough is again talking out of the side of his little mouth. MSNBC should loose him and put Rachel in. She clearly speaks honestly when she continues to criticize the media.

I've been sitting on the fence between Obama and Clinton ever since Edwards dropped out of the race. (I'm a Green Party Progressive Democrat kind of guy.)But I think I've made my mind up of late. This bogus elitist thing was the last straw.

The issue has come to this. Which candidate has vision? And which candidate is campaigning without regard to the consequences?

I feel that Obama's responses to these bogus "crises" thrown at him have been appropriate and inclusive. He speaks to voters as adults and chooses to be frank with them. Obama doesn't take on the mantle of victim, and explores the truth as he sees it. I don't always agree with Obama. (I wish his health care program was more single payer.) And I'm not seduced by his smoothness, but lately, I sense that I know what I'm buying with Obama. A leader is one that can show a vision that everyone can aspire to. Obama has been selling a vision to the all Americans, not just Demos. I'm starting to think, in some small way, that Obama may be able to pull it off. I can respect him for that.

Clinton, however, has really disappointed me. I always knew Clinton was Repub lite on foreign issues, but I always felt her heart was in the right place in most domestic ones. I always knew that things were going to be messy when she hired Mark Penn. Clinton's hiring of Penn showed a side of her that mired in Beltway bubble politics. And Clinton's taking issue of Obama's so-called elitism is just another example of her desire for the presidency at any cost. The cost she's willing to pay is the destruction of Demo Party unity and image. Clinton is, without sight of the consequences, is handing the Repubs with bogus talking points without the Repub opposition having to spend any money. It is a short-sighted power trip and uses the same Repub tactics that are the envy of any FOX news commentator. This is not vision, but is Machiavellian. I'm beginning to lose trust in her motives and what she really wants for the country. Does she really think that these tactics and going to help with Demo coat tails in November? Does she care? I think the advisors Hillary Clinton has been listening to don't care.

So, if you've read this post, it will come as no surprise that my vote will go to Obama. Obama has a little bit more vision, in my opinion, than Clinton does at point of the game.

I can't wait for this primary season to be over and getting back at bitching at the assholes who stole the money on Wall Street, sent people to kill and be killed in Iraq, and screwed up my health care.

thepoetryman @ 136:

SCAR: "When I saw those words come across the screen of my blackberry I thought, Holy Christ! This is gonna blow wide open! and then I finished off my Fat Free Skinny vinte Mocha Caramel Latte No Foam and got to work at making it so!"

Oh! Screw you, Scar! You pompous, flaming tool and complete blowhard! You didn't listen to the words or their context, you simply cherry, or in your case, blackberry-picked them and ran with it, you idiotic lackey!

Yup - He was the one that let Rachel have it a while back for talking about Republicans, which he felt she was not qualified to do; yet he, a Republican former congressman (who resigned to spend more time with his family around the time one of his interns was found dead in his office) spews daily about the Democrats, claiming neutrality AND expertise!

What a huge head he has (literally AND figuratively) to house such a teeny tiny brain.

I love Rachel, too.

Off topic, but slightly relevant:

I was listening to some guy named Phil Hendrie on KTLK 1150 here in Los Angeles. It's a progressive talk station -- but then I hear Hendrie spouting off about historians are a bunch of pinheaded jerks to be judging Shrub so harshly, that the moron's approval ratings will probably keep rising over the years, blah blah blah. Is this guy a Bush apologist -- and, if so, what in the hell is he doing on a station that carries Miller and Seder and Rhodes and Malloy and others of the liberal/Democratic persuasion?

Johnny2BadImSoBitter @ 132:

Teddy Phuf @ 117:

odanny @ 109:

Teddy Phuf @ 77:

There are so many swing voters I work with that are "anyone but Hillary" voters. I know many of them wont vote. If Hillary gets the nod a true progressive candidate would get huge appeal from BOTH sides of the aisle.

Huh? If Hillary gets the nod there wont be a progressive candidate.

Huh??? There are no progressive candidates left. Kuchinich and Edwards are long gone.

Agreed. However when we break down between Hillary and Obama, its not even close.

This is why i can't watch MSNBC for politics.. it seems kind of weird for TV personalities to tell me what voters are thinking.. ignoring that we're listening.

These people can't honestly 'say' they know if a person connect with the general public or not.. without 'CHECKING' with that public. They're just talking about superficial issues.. without the context.

I don't think it's about a gut feeling.. we had that already for 8 years, people like me want a change.. regardless if it's a woman or a black man. We want someone that has the people's interest in mind -- though who ever win won't be the complete answer, there are still problems that will take decades to fix..

Wonderland @ 143:

Johnny @ 131,

You hit the nail squarely on the head as far as him not thinking of the CONSEQUENCES of his words to his candidacy.

He probably thought that since it was a closed door meeting, nobody was recording.

Well unfortunately for him, somebody from Huffington Post did just that and now the whole world knows what he thinks of "small town" America.

It just shows a level of naivety on his part that is hard to fathom.

O.k., let me get this straight...naivete, bad. Lying (Hillary/Bosnia) or ignorance (McCain/Sunni, Shia) we could, maybe, give a pass on?