Obama: I would "immediately review" potential Bush crimes
By SilentPatriot Monday Apr 14, 2008 6:08pmAttytood's Will Bunch asks Senator Obama the question that's on everyone's mind:
Tonight I had an opportunity to ask Barack Obama a question that is on the minds of many Americans, yet rarely rises to the surface in the great ruckus of the 2008 presidential race -- and that is whether an Obama administration would seek to prosecute officials of a former Bush administration on the revelations that they greenlighted torture, or for other potential crimes that took place in the White House.
Obama said that as president he would indeed ask his new Attorney General and his deputies to "immediately review the information that's already there" and determine if an inquiry is warranted -- but he also tread carefully on the issue, in line with his reputation for seeking to bridge the partisan divide. He worried that such a probe could be spun as "a partisan witch hunt." However, he said that equation changes if there was willful criminality, because "nobody is above the law."
Back in October, shortly after he endorsed Hillary Clinton, General Wesley Clark told Matt Stoller that Senator Clinton would pursue investigations as well:
Matt Stoller: So you think Senator Clinton as President will do those investigations?
Wes Clark: Yes.
Matt Stoller: And you think Congress should continue those investigations once Bush is out of office?
Wes Clark: Absolutely.
Words are nice, but I want some firm commitments. Who's with me?
Just to ensure it doesn't get overlooked, Bunch's question was framed in terms of the recent revelation that President Bush personally approved the meeting of his principals in which they discussed the intimate details of how we would torture suspected terrorists. If you haven't already, please follow John's action alert from yesterday and make your voice heard. Because this is what inevitably happens when our country is flippant about torture.
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Chimpeach! Chimprison!
1) - Elect Obama
2) - Appoint an Attorney General who will enforce the law.
3) - Find the facts.
4) - Let the chips fall where they may.
I don't know. I'm usually sickened when a pol has to compromise on an issue to get elected (HRC's sponsoring the anti-flag burning amendment made me hate her) but I fear in this case that a dem that is vocal about charging bush & co with crimes could lose the GE over it. So I'm leaning towards HOPING whoever it is will investigate, try and execute legally for crimes against humanity the whole stinking lot of them, but I don't want to risk McCain becoming president by pushing for a guarantee that they'll do it.
Saw this over at the Ace of Spades. A few commentators, and the author himself, seem to think that holding Presidents accountable for breaking the law is an action on the cusp of political murder and fascism. Of course, author didn't mention "possible crimes", but said persecution comes from "disagreeing" with political opponents.
I don't want to assume on their behalf, but I can't even begin to think that simply being a President grants you some kind of immunity. Bush is lucky that he has everyone in his back pocket, he's not subject to special privilege.
One has to wonder how well the Right would take it if the Left took to creating such liberties. Or even simply kept Bush's new status quo?
We know the answer.
Do it now. I can't wait that long.
The antidote for the poison that (b)ush has fed the American people can only come in the form of investigating this administrations criminal acts and then prosecuting.
Without this antidote America will whither and die from the gangrene spreading through our government.
I don't know, something tells me the Obama crimes table would remain up in the attic with Pelosi's impeachment table. Good for motivating the base during primary though.
Alice Hussein (the Bitter are for Obama) @ 2:
Yes, I agree. Simply say that if evidence of crimes are brought to your attention, you'll do your duty and uphold the law and hold any criminals responsible. Stress the word criminals so bush defenders are caught having to basically say bush is a criminal.
Please wake me up when the selection is over.
Alice Hussein (the Bitter are for Obama) @ 2:
I like your approach and I agree. If we have a largely Dem congress by then they can help get this done.
Isn't the Hague more appropriate for criminals of this stature?
Don't hold your breath.
Send them all to Iraq and let the Iraqis determine their fate.
Begot of nothing but vain fantasy, which is as thin of substance as the air and more inconstant than the wind.
Jonathan Turley for AG, pretty please, Mr. President. And would you please hit Hillary Clinton up with a question tomorrow night at the debate on what SHE would do? If she's the Republican mole we think she is, she will duck the question or give an answer counter to yours.
Here's an idea: why don't we just remove the impeachment clause from the Constitution?
I mean, it's pretty cut and dried that the President and Vice-president broke the law, yet the Congress didn't feel even remotely compelled to enforce the law by impeaching them. So, what's the point in having it in the Constitution in the first place?
More to the point, will "President Obama" be concerned with punishing the one's in Congress who ABROGATED their legal responsibility, and refused to punish our Executive branch for committing crimes against humanity?
I doubt it...
He's just another guy in a suit, shoveling us BULLSHIT and MISDIRECTION, while the true evildoers in this world get away with their evil deeds.
I heard that President Ford preemptively pardoned Nixon, because he thought that an impeachment proceeding would hurt the NATION...
Bullshit.
Do you hear that America? You can't handle punishing our elites for committing crimes... It's just too much for you, and our wonderful "leaders" feel the need to "protect us" from the TRUTH...
What will Obama's excuse be? Or Hillary's? Or McCain's?
Make no mistake: there WILL be an excuse given... and no matter how they candy-coat it, the end result will be the same: the criminals will go unpunished, as a lesson to future "leaders".
Good luck America.
Here's a novel idea, how about an investigation and prosecution (if evidence leads to one ofcourse)...like right now?!?!
What is more disturbing here, the fact that we have to maybe hope and wait that our next President will do something, or that if a candidate even dares to speak anything remotely close to a substantative issue, it is considered "political suicide"?
Make Clinton say this,if she doesn't or if she tries to be fancy with her reply that will prove there is a deal between McCain and Clinton to protect Bush and the Republican's.
Not going to happen, they are going to want to move on with there own agenda's and they can't do that chasing Bush, besides the GOP would not let them........
I don't believe it is an issue he should run on. Too divisive. He should be stealthy on this issue; don't rule it out or take it "off the table", discuss the issue when asked but keep the cards close to the vest, then after he is inaugurated in January appoint a special investigator and begin with Cheney. He's more likely to kick the bucket sooner and much more unpopular. In the process of gathering indictable evidence against him the dirt on Bush will reveal itself.
signed - a bitter, small town, gun-owning latte-sipping elitist who goes to the forest to worship.
This was Clark's opinion. Clinton did not state she would do this. How is this comparable to Obama's statement. Hillary has been mum. No political courage, just triangulation.
Well, Obama's statement sure sounded like more of a commitment than "Wesley Clark thinks Clinton will investigate."
James @ 14:
No they don't. Except for whats now considered a small fringe of American Hating Anti America Lefty Radicals who do a lot of blogging and constantly slam and question the Preznit.
All things otherwise being equal... (which I don't believe that they actually are, but nevertheless)... A-NOTHER reason to vote for the guy.... And the guy I'm speaking of sure as hell ain't McCain... but you folks knew that already.......JD
L.A. Confidential @ 20:
For the 300,000,000 sheeple in the US, it really doesn't make an iota of difference.
I like it but what occurs to me is that this would entail rummaging through this administration's records. What is the possibility that all this would be stymied by President Bush invoking Executive Order 13,233, the one that he made up and signed in 2001 that limits access to Presidential Papers? For that matter, what's to stop him on Jan. 19, 2009 from building a bonfire on the White House lawn, tossing all incriminating material into it, and saying: "It's mine to do as I please! Pardons for everybody!"?
Hey, y’all prepare yourself for The Pander Man!
You never heard a sound like The Pander Man!
You’re bound to lose control when The Pander Man starts to jam!
Let's see. He's wearing a lapel pin now. He'll pursue investigations into potential crimes committed by the Bush Administration; his version of Nancy Pelosi's 'drain the swamp' promise.
Hmm, what else......? Oh yes, he believes Al Gore really won in 2000.
Give 'em what they yearn for, Barry.
this is not a case where someone(bush and cheney) might have committed
crimes, this is where they have committed crimes against the American
people, the Constitution and in the eyes of the world against Humanity.
this should not be dropped EVER.
xargaw @ 18:
When was Clinton asked?
It strains credulity to attribute something to a person who hasn't been approached on the subject.
From my reading of the above, it appears Obama was asked about this issue.
Or, did he volunteer the response without being asked the question?
Or perhaps my reading comprehension has slipped since I became a typical bitter American.
One who turns to guns, religion and antipathy now that I can no longer afford to buy the lattes I used to sip whilst being an educated elitist.
Stop all the bs and double talk. we need to know is the new president going to pursue prosecuting the former administration. don't want all the politically correct answers, question is did they break the law and will they pay the consequences just as any of the rest of us would. they've intimidated all facets of the media, they've intimidated the other party into following the hardllines of the day and they have intimidated the justice department into not pursuing what were clearly breaches of the law and the constitution. they have danced their way through the quagmire and escaped thus far unscathed. now it is up to the new president to pursue a conviction. can whoever that will be answer clearly and concisely that he or she will seek justice for these crooks who have sought to ruin our country. I would like the two candidates to answer that as well as i would like to know if either of them is still backing joe lieberman. he along with the right wing radio hosts who have done so much in backing bush cannot and will not be forgotten.
The clintons are to close and cozy to the Bush Crime family , for Hillary to do any serious investigation , so you can forget about it and there is a small chance a Pres. Obama might , however even this statement will heat up even MORE , the massive campaign against an Obama presidency.
Now David Gregory is asking why obama isn't criticizing Carter for talking to Hamas and their infamous echo chamber question " how will it hurt him ' .
And talking about elites , I believe Jim Tucker ( Bilderberg investigator ) that Hillary Clinton was seen at one of their private meetings , with Kissenger ; European elites ; Wolfowitz ; even Gov. Perry of Texas attended .
Google CFR and Hillary Clinton speech , it reveals how in cahoots she is with the Council on Foreign Relations , who on their OWN web site advocates a one dollar N. America .
I believe the status quo view obama as a wild card , not certain exactly what he will do
with his popular support , but he is the nail that stands up and will, as Japanese culture says , needs to be pounded back down .
If John McCain is elected you can bet Bush and Cheney will get away scott free.
doesn't mean anything until she says it herself...
and i'm not about to hold my breath for that...
Holy shit. Could the judicial coup of 2000 actually turn out to be, on balance, a good thing??
What if Barack Obama is the real deal? In this country full of idiots, he would have trouble getting into office because of his name and skin color. However, the smart money is on him riding a lot of waves into office, and the biggest is the feduppedness of everybody over the giant catastrofuck that has been republican rule.
I believe he is the goods, and it looks like he's going to have a pretty workable majority in Congress. I'm a lazy-ass cynic, but I'm excited about this guy, dammit. I have a feeling that things are about to get a lot better.
Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things.
NBC News had footage of the Pope kissing a little girl on the cheek. I wonder if he knew it wasn't a little boy?
Be assured that such talk causes panic within certain bosoms at the white house. May even spur The Decider to decide to mount that coup, after all. His power has slipped somewhat-congress has actually stood up to him once, and it felt so good. Of course, we still have to deal with our invertebrate congress, none of whom want to be made to look weak. They somehow imagine that they don’t, now.
The next nine months will be interesting times.
nancy, listen up. your flimsy little, "impeachment isn't on the table" comment made when you first took office is just that now, small and insignificant in light of the populace now calling en masse not for impeachment, but for prosecution.
thanks pelosi, you made us all proud...NOT.
James @ 14:
And the goalposts toward fascism will move that much further...
"...equation changes if there was willful criminality..."
WHAT IS THIS CRAP?
For everyone else it's, "Ignorance of the Law in No Excuse.", but for Bush and Company it's going to be; If there was "Willful Criminal Intent?"
Talk about Nit Picking the LAWS!!
If I were Obama, and I had a vast majority Democratic congress, I would appoint a "Bush Administration High Crimes Czar" to pull all of it together; all of the crimes too numerous to list here. I would pledge to report the truth by the end of my first term, but in parts.
Each part would be revealed in formal addresses to the nation from the oval office ala Kennedy in the Cuban missile crisis, always with ample evidence.
I would explain to the nation that we have found a treasonous conspiracy to destroy our freedom and way of life, and that we must act decisively to bring those responsible to justice to save our country from oblivion.
Hard? Yes. Scary? You bet. Necessary? Absolutely.
what a great day it would be to see the Reinstitution of the Constitution and see everyone of these neocon criminal traitor scum swinging at the gallows!!
We will piss on Cheney's grave one day
Now the scumbags will have to steal the election and / or whack Obama, they've getting backed into a corner and have got no other choice.
If he wins, lets hold him to his word!
bushisawarcriminal @ 38:
I totally agree- in fact, I sent virtually the same email to Bush via 'president @whitehouse.gov.' That's one reason I won't be visiting the states for a while!
Ruthless People @ 32:
Was he under sniper fire like Hillary?
Bush and his idiots should all be prosecuted for crimes against humanity, laws pertaining to failure to protect the constitution. civil rights laws, and there has to be a new law against ass-holes occupying the Whitehouse. And maybe we should re-think who should have the right to vote when they vote for idiots like Bush (just kidding).
He's not going to do anything of the sort. Hillary or McCain won't either. Nothing is giong to happen to Bush. He's spent his entire adult life skirting laws and getting away from it. It's no different now.
Eric Hussein Almighty @ 31:
Right on, I agree. There's something very different about this guy. He's a true leader, so unlike the political hacks he's up against. Truly decent, honorable, and visionary. I just hope if he's elected, he can whither the really nasty attacks. I guarantee you the Right has plans to destroy him by ANY means nescessary. They've been building the America they want for 60 years and they have too much to lose.
I'll buy his body armor.
Clark thinks Hillary wll do something, but we haven't heard from Hillary. The same question that was asked to Obama needs to be asked of Hillary. I'll bet she say's Obama doesn't understand and is just out of touch with the people.
We are a nation of laws and not of men!
Why would a good consertative christian boy like W have a problem with that?
DC @ 30:
My thoughts exactly.
Osama's in a difficult position here. I'm a cynical as the next person, but he deserves the benefit of the doubt regarding impeachment.
Pelosi and Reid have taken it "off the table." He's a freshman Senator with no power over the Congressional establishment. If he suggests aggressive investigation into Cheney and Bush, he's embarrassing his own party's leaders (albeit they deserve it). If he ignores the matter, he's not being true to the rule of law and to his responsibilities as president if he's elected. So he says his Attorney General will investigate fully and whatever will be, will be. That's the correct approach.
diamondmc @ 47:
Yup, Obama is in touch with Americans.
It's just the Americans he is in touch with are the ones who can afford $10,000 for piano and dance lessons for our children, buy a mansion with the assistance of a federally indicted slumlord, and complain that the $400,000 + just isn't enough for the organic foods and the nannies and the designer clothes his wife and children wear.
All this while living less than 2 miles from the constituents who struggled to survive in the buildings his friend Rezko owned while bilking the fed govt out of millions of $$.
Get real !!!! A bunch of silly talk if you ask me.
NO sitting President will truthfully investigate a former President because it would never stop and would likely result in the destruction of the country.
There is no precident for such a risky and destabilizing action.
An investigation, if there is one will have to be a whitewash to restore honor and political legitimacy to a damaged Office.
Get real !!!
No sitting President can truthfully investigate a former President because it would be too destabilizing and would bring partisanship to a new and truly dangerous level.
If there is an investigation it would have to be a whitewash from the start with the sole purpose of restoring honor and legitimacy to a damaged Office.
katie @ 49:
This is Ka Ka ...It is very easy to say I will prosecute the former president of the Untied States If I am President....Kind of like saying If I had been a Senator I would not have voted for the IWR...Listen folks if Obama wins the election I have three projections
1) We will still not get Universal Health care
2) We will still be in Iraq in 2010, 2011, 2012,...etc etc
3) George Bush will not be indicted for war crimes President Obama Or Clinton or McCain will not walk up to the door and say you are under arrest for war crimes..Now he may go through the motions to cover his/her butt and keep the Obamanables satisfied however there is a better chance of finding a snowball in hell then there is that Bush will ever be indicted let alone prosecuted for anything he did during his tenure as president. You people are really in La La land!
This is one of the few times I would put my money on the line.
There will not be a serious investigation into any of these matters. There might be a show put on for political purposes but a show only.
Hell, Democrats control congress and they haven't even tried to do a serious investigation, neither will the next President.
Make Edwards the AG and let him get justice.
The sad thing is, he'll immediately review and then say, "Gosh, they did a lot of bad stuff. Oh well.... We need to move away from the old-style partisan politics and work together now, so we'll just let it slide so we can keep uniting people.:
Sorry, but a lot of what Obama says now (or any pol for that matter) won't matter once in office. After all, what president wants to set the precedent of digging through and exposing all of the last guy's shit?
Great to hear this! I'm optimistic we will see justice come to those that have committed war crimes. The world and American won't forget!
President Obama, a president who obeys and upholds the law. We haven't see one in 8 years.
What a pussy!
... or an ignorant shut-in.
You haven't seen enough evidence of a crime? What the fuck do you do all day Senator? If that is your real name?
If you can't impeach you had better indict and try them for their crimes.
Where is my Kucini??? He is a REAL MAN who would stop anyone who threatened this country... foreign or DOMESTIC!
Oh, I know, let's keep settling for what THEY will allow us to vote for... Yeah Obama!
Fuckin grow a spine!
The problem is
Bush has ALREADY pardoned himself and his administration from any legal recourse once they are out of office.
There is unfortuneatly, not a damn thing anyone can do to prosecute them now.
So the word "yes" and "Absolutely" are not firm commitments in your mind? All of this process is all words. What has any of them said that are firm commitments? Be honest and admit that you hate Sen. Clinton and that is all it is.
The further BushCo gets backed into legal corners ? Just increases the chances they will pull another 911 to install themselves and martial law. Cornered rats are truly dangerous when they have nothing to lose. I'm not sure what the proper approach would be to get to November with democracy intact. Id also hope that any attempt by BushCo to install martial law will be met with mobs of millions with torches and pitchforks. Best to think through every scenario ahead of time. I doubt they will just lay down and face the music.They dont give a rats ass about America anyways and will burn it down to try and save themselves. Much like Bushes hero Hitler did.
Col Kilgore @ 61:
We would see our first Civil war in modern times, and it would be downright ugly to say the least.
The division is already there, the only thing that is missing is the catalyst.
Leslie @ 51:
Yup, Obama is in touch with Americans.
It’s just the Americans he is in touch with are the ones who can afford $10,000 for piano and dance lessons for our children, buy a mansion with the assistance of a federally indicted slumlord, and complain that the $400,000 + just isn’t enough for the organic foods and the nannies and the designer clothes his wife and children wear...
While I will not vote for McCain, and I would only vote for Hillary if there were no other choice (which means she would come in, if elected by other such disaffected Democrats as myself, handicapped from the start with being loathed), my own jury is still out on Obama. But this morning, my host's Time magazine dropped through the mailbox, and I read this article over my breakfast coffee:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1729524,00.html
Obama's mother was a teenaged white mother, christened with a boy's name - Stanley - because her gender was such a disappointment to her father. She married a black man at a time when biracial marriages were rare... and divorced him after he returned to Africa and his first wife, at a time when divorces were also frowned on. She dropped out of college when Barack was born, then went back when he was two, living off food stamps and depending on her parents for childcare. When she remarried, and took her son to Jakarta, they lived in a house with no electricity, in a town with no paved roads. She got a job teaching English to the wealthy kids at the American Embassy, but taught her son at 4 in the morning from a correspondence course because she couldn't afford the elite international school. Barack did eventually attend an elite prep school... on a scholarship. She herself went back to college and got her Master's degree. When she divorced her second husband, she never asked for or received child support or alimony. She went on for a PhD in anthropology, and was a program officer for women's issues with the Ford Foundation, and helped to create one of the first microfinance programs for poor women in Indonesia, well before they became fashionable elsewhere. Obama emulated her efforts, becoming a community organizer in Chicago.
This is a man from a background that has nothing to do with wealth or privilege or entitlement. What he has, he's earned. That includes education as well as money - a far cry from what we've endured these past eight years.
The more I learn about where he's come from - a Christian growing up in a Muslim community, a black man with a white mother and grandparents who raised him to be proud of being black, a man who watched his mother make her own way through life without depending on a husband, a man who's had to put up with jibes about a 'funny' name who's own mother was named 'Stanley', and both done so with good humour - the more I think this qualifies him for the job, far more than any 'experience' Hillary has had being Bill's bedmate during those three a.m. phone calls.
Robert Lockwood Mills @ 50:
Excuse me, but it is OBAMA. He may be graceful about it, but I'm not. Goofball!
Osama may or may not be in a difficult position, wherever the hell he is. It has been seven years and we still don't have him.
Silent Patriot, who am I to contradict Gen. Clark, but I've heard that question put to Hillary Clinton before. Her response was a no. She used the rationale that she wasn't going to get caught up in the past but concentrate on moving forward if elected. I would like to see Obama bring the question up tomorrow night at the debate. My hunch, based solely on the chumminess between the Clintons and the Bushes, is that she signaled to them that she would not pursue any investigations.
BTW, Jonathan Turley for Obama's AG!
Sorry to post twice. I didn't think the first one went through. If you delete one, though, I'd rather it be #14.
leslie @ 51:
yakfitguy @ 46:
Mr. Body Armor meet Mr. Slanderfest!
It's not going to happen because it would take the support of the media to inform the American public of the need for the review, and the media will not support an honest investigation because the much of the media will be exposed as complicit in the whole affair. Remember that for the big media outlets at the time, "shock and awe" translated into 24/7 live coverage, mega ratings, and and influx and advertising dollars.
Rico @ 68:
Actually, i doubt the mainstream media would like nothing more than 24/7 coverage of the investigation/indictment/prosecution of former Bush Administration Officials as long as they can twist/deflect/discredit any accusations they had anuthing to do with it. That would not be the focus in any case.
Obama "worried that such a probe could be spun as “a partisan witch hunt.”
How to know you're a liberal: You worry about excess in word and deed, in the face of a conservative party that has no such concern, and has ground your party into the dust for two traitorous, excessive terms.
Pathetic. All three candidates are idiots. Both parties brought you the last 7 years. An evil incumbent and the hopeless bunch of ineffective, hand-wringing, big-talking, blogging pussies that comprise the left.
Mike H @ 59:
I disagree.
There's a little thing called the USA Patriot Act...
President Obama could simply declare them to be enemy combatants, get the Defense Secretary to agree, and then put them in the deepest, darkest hole in Gitmo, until they either die, or the Congress repeals the Act.
It's probably the only way that Congress would repeal it.
James @ 71:
That is the very last thing i want to see happen.
We can certainly prosecute them on the available evidence, there is no statute of limitations on most of the crimes they have committed.
#69: "Actually, i doubt the mainstream media would like nothing more than 24/7 coverage of the investigation/indictment/prosecution of former Bush Administration Officials as long as they can twist/deflect/discredit any accusations they had anuthing to do with it. That would not be the focus in any case."
Good observation, I hadn't thought of that. But does that mean the the MSM gets a perpetual free pass? When will they ever be held accountable for anything, and by whom?
Rico @ 73:
Pretty much when we reinstitute the fairness doctrine, place real limits on how much one corporatation can own ( i suggest no more than 5 media outlets in the entire country which would include radio, tv and print and no two in the same market.)
Until then they will remain the strongest and most powerful (not to mention most corupt) extra governmental force in the country that influences who gets elected and who gets screwed in the country.
Nuremburg Beoytches
i think obama is here to bring balance to the force.
This is not what Obama told me in my form letter back.
Not this cat. After over a decade of military service, I promised myself never to stand in a really long line ever again.
Barack Obama has had several things to say about his "cling" remarks (the cling part is much worse than the bitter part, as several others have noted). But I just read (via Ed Morrissey) some other remarks in the speech. The context clarifies Obama's now-famous words: [emphasis added by Ed]
Here's how it is: in a lot of these communities in big industrial states like Ohio and Pennsylvania, people have been beaten down so long, and they feel so betrayed by government, and when they hear a pitch that is premised on not being cynical about government, then a part of them just doesn't buy it. And when it's delivered by - it's true that when it's delivered by a 46-year-old black man named Barack Obama (laugher), then that adds another layer of skepticism.
Obama is calling the clingy folks racists. The crowd's laughter is the key, as Ed notes. These were rich San Franciscans sharing a chuckle over the crude provinciality of their fellow countrymen. The kind of people who give America such a bad name among the overseas elites. It was Obama pandering to the prejudices of his crowd. These people congratulate themselves on their own enlightenment when they support an Ivy Leaguer raised by a white grandmother in the best schools who happens to have black skin. The more open-minded of them acknowledge a certain charm to rural Appalachian culture manifested in folk arts like clog dancing.
This is the secret to the potency of this incident. Message loud and clear: Obama's friends are laughing at the majority of Americans. That is the very definition of elitist.
My question is can Obama squeeze fireballs out his Butt?
The candidate who makes a SERIOUS promise to go after the Bush criminal gang will get my vote. If neither candidate has the guts to do this, I won't waste my time voting because it would confirm, again, that they are all crooks, protecting each other.
Col. Nathan Jessup @ 79:
Thanks for nothing. Just what we don't need, more opinioniated garbage that has zero basis in fact. Get over your inferiority complex and victim mentality and join the real world.
Way to frame this post to favor Obama over Clinton. Your reaction to General Clark's statement: "Words are nice, but I want some firm commitments". No such reaction to Senator Obama's comments, which are, after all...let's see now...words.
This used to be an interesting blog when the writers spent their time going after the Republicans. Now that it's part of the Obama spin machine, I suspect that you lost a big chunk of your readership.
The Bush and Clinton crime families are allies and always have been. That's why Hillary refuses to drop out of the race. If she doesn't get herself elected *somehow*, she knows she and her benefactors are done for. At least, I hope they are. Depends if Obama keeps his word, or if he allows himself to be intimidated into not doing anything.
Hear! Hear! I say, let the hunt begin! Ding Dong the witch is dead - is the song for the inaugarual ball!
Start with Gonzalez, then on to Rumsfeld, then the list of second tier underlings who will give up everything once the house of cards starts fallilng, then gaff the Big Fish.
The punishments should fit the crimes. Nuremberg 09!
Another prob
I really dont think Obama would live past his first term (assassination), and if he DOES start criminal investigations of BushCo, it would be only months before that happens.
The neocons will not have that, and some crazy neocon somewhere will be batshiat just enough to take out Obama
bmw H. 528 @ 82:
Nothing is right. Thanks for the non-comment.
To me, this is the most important issue of all. A precedent must be sent to future administrations that no one is above the law, and that we do indeed have three co-equal branches of government. The next chimpy to get elected, needs to remember what happened to Busho's criminal's, so that a deterrent is set. I would expect everyone in Bush's inner crcle to be prison bound. These clowns literally stink of corruption!
Nothing else; economic justice, Iraqi justice, or lost freedoms, is attainable if our constitution is reduced to a "god damned piece of paper"!
who would ask Obama these questions??? Are you trying to get him killed? Of course he will, don't talk about it.
There is no job more important than investigating the crimes of the Bush Administration. We cannot live with their stain on our honor without bringing justice to these repugnant criminals. America cannot let these butchers go unpunished, otherwise it will be an admission that the thugs won...that Americans have no control over their own country. If it turns out that they were responsible for the 9/11 disaster, they should be hung with piano wire on the White House lawn. Any Zionists involved should be crucified.
Damn , wouldn't that be something if Bush , Cheney the ewntire gang of criminals were actually held accountable ! Will never happen but it's a beautiful picture ain't it ?
The world has waited too long to prosecute the bunch of thugs currently despoiling the White House. Bush and the rest of his crew are citizens. They should be investigated NOW and arrested immediately if it is proved they have broken the law. I don't care if he is President. No one is above the law.
Your all nuts!!! Who do you think the Democrat's are, ANGELS? Just as guilty! Elect OBama and you'll see a melt down of American Defense of Biblical proportions! He stands for nothing and he and his wife are racists, are you all blind?
"Words are nice, but I want some firm commitments. Who’s with me?"
Here ya go:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65GfSt75MVc
Rick @ 97:
Yeah Rick, everyone else is crazy and you're fucking normal. "A meltdown of American defense of Biblical proportions"....where the hell have you been the last eight years, the unibombers abandoned shack? The Obama's are racists? Who told you to repeat that bullshit, the little bigot fairy on your shoulder? Or Sean Hannity? Yes I am blind Rick.... Blind to the absolute baseless FOX hypnosis vomit that you're spewing.
Obama: I would “immediately review” potential Bush crimes
This calls for immediate discussion: Reg.
diamondmc @ 45:
or was she conceived during the march at Selma...... or a Constitutional Professor...... or maybe she wasn't seated in the church when he those statements where made.... or her father was a goat herder in Africa that's why he kiss her lol Wake Up Sheeple
This is a biased post.
It should read: Obama adds the weasel words “immediately review”, six months after Clinton endorser (Wes Clark) reveals intent to investigate the Bush Administration's alleged crimes in office.
That wasn't hard to say, now was it?
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