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HAD ENOUGH OF BUSH JUDGES?

Well they are still here and more seem to be on the way. The new head of the PFAW, Kathryn Kolbert, wrote a great piece about the Senate confirming more of the same---extreme right wing judges that are coming into the judicary.

President Bush is in the twilight of his presidency and his approval ratings are scraping bottom. So what did the Senate do last week? It confirmed yet another of Bush's controversial judicial nominees. And Senators are sending signs that they might cave on yet more nominees in the near future.

Let’s stop for a second and think about what happens when Bush nominees get on the courts. We’re coming up on the one year anniversary of the Supreme Court’s destructive Ledbetter ruling. Lilly Ledbetter suffered pay discrimination for years at an Alabama Goodyear plant...read on

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DavidtheDuke's picture

What's the point of caving in?! Will Hillary's donors threaten to not fund Congress anymore?

Shared Humanity's picture

Bush courts will play the same role that the Ayatollah courts play in Iran, reactionary to the end. Demographics have the xenophobic, racist war criminals permanently on the run. It is their last stand.

Fuck em.

ysbaddaden's picture

I haven't had enough of bush

I was even born cesarian (sp?)

So I have to waste my time studying arcana.

ysbaddaden's picture

2 Shared Humanity

A little closer to home was the Supreme Court before 1936. There were four judges in particular that were called The Four Horsemen that opposed everything FDR tried to do to relieve the distress of the Great Depression. That led to his attempt to pack the court.

The Elite Rusty Shackleford's picture

Perhaps the best reason to vote Democratic even if your preferred Democrat does not get the nomination. Either Hillary or Obama would nominate better judges than McCain would.

EliteLemming's picture

The Elite Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

Perhaps the best reason to vote Democratic even if your preferred Democrat does not get the nomination. Either Hillary or Obama would nominate better judges than McCain would.

I'm not so sure... Hillary speaks of the Democratic Party as them a little to and I don't think for a second she will relinquish any usurped executive power back to the courts.

EliteLemming's picture

supposed to be "a little to often"

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The Elite Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

Perhaps the best reason to vote Democratic even if your preferred Democrat does not get the nomination. Either Hillary or Obama would nominate better judges than McCain would.

Keep in mind too that the next president may well have the opportunity to nominate at least two Supreme Court justices. I think we know the type McCain would find acceptable.

Even if you have to hold your nose, please vote Dem in November.

Terrible's picture

Are we really sure that they are "caving in"? It's begaining to seem more and more that this is what they want, fascism for all.

Gregg's picture

Face it, the dems are not ready to serve their ideals until we remove the "good ole boy" dems. I wish things could change now, but I think we need McCain as president to force out the old dem crowd. Not enough pain yet for most. We have a gaping wound and most think it's a mosquito bite.

sad pathetic party currently. They call them "tax and spend" liberals

more like "lax and blend" miserables.

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5 The Elite Rusty Shackleford

Who were the Four Horsemen of the on the Supreme Court during FDR's years, I think two of them were Hughes and Frankfurt, but I'm not even sure that they're right.

Any president that tries to relinquish power back to Congress could only do so during a possible 2nd term, because if they try during the 1st, they'll be called "Soft on Terrorism" and could risk their reelection.

So I would say that could only happen during most likely a Democratic 2nd term, no sooner than 2012.

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pissed off patricia @ 8:

The Elite Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

Perhaps the best reason to vote Democratic even if your preferred Democrat does not get the nomination. Either Hillary or Obama would nominate better judges than McCain would.

Keep in mind too that the next president may well have the opportunity to nominate at least two Supreme Court justices. I think we know the type McCain would find acceptable.

Even if you have to hold your nose, please vote Dem in November.

If only to block the stench of piss?

Sachem's picture

No no don't believe that fascism is a Democratic value. It's not, but if these judges were unacceptable before, the are unacceptable now. I can't believe Leahy would want this kind on political blood on his hands.

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EliteLemming @ 6:

The Elite Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

Perhaps the best reason to vote Democratic even if your preferred Democrat does not get the nomination. Either Hillary or Obama would nominate better judges than McCain would.

I'm not so sure... Hillary speaks of the Democratic Party as them a little to[o often] and I don't think for a second she will relinquish any usurped executive power back to the courts.

Perhaps not, but I would still feel more comfortable with her picks than McCain's. And I'd love to see Obama get to put some judges on the bench. Being a relatively liberal constitutional scholar he would likely make good picks. We need some new Brennans and Marshalls.

theWalrus's picture

This will be the only legacy of the Bush administration. They have packed the Federal and Local courts with ultra-partisan, rightwing idealogues. This will corrupt the legal system for decades to come, no matter who is elected in the next cycle.

L.A. Confidential's picture

All this government cares about is remaining on the taxpayer trough and all the entitlements that goes with it.

In the end they will vote against the interests of the people who elected them if it serves their interests.

pissed off patricia's picture

We have a chance to elect a constitutional lawyer as president of the United States. Was there ever a time in our lifetime when we needed one more?

Yesterday I heard that blue collar workers identified more with McCain. Why? Other than being in the service and being a senator married to a very wealthy lady, as far as I can discern, McCain never worked an 8 to 5 job for a living.

You guys are right we are going to have to live with Bush's judges for a long long time. His presidency will leave a lasting scar on so many things.

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pissed off patricia @ 17:

We have a chance to elect a constitutional lawyer as president of the United States. Was there ever a time in our lifetime when we needed one more?

Depends, is name John Yoo?

Rebel Patriot's picture

hello,

at what point does "caving" become collaborating?

David Hawes's picture

As I've said, the very people who voted for Bush were the very people most f***ed by Him.Seems the same with McCain voters.

EliteLemming @ 18:

pissed off patricia @ 17:

We have a chance to elect a constitutional lawyer as president of the United States. Was there ever a time in our lifetime when we needed one more?

Depends, is name John Yoo?

No, thank god!

L.A. Confidential's picture

pissed off patricia @ 17:

Yesterday I heard that blue collar workers identified more with McCain. Why?

Rule Number One.

Tell the people what they want to hear, then do what your going to do.

Rule Number Two. Repeat Rule Number One.

Thats all a politician needs to do. It obviously hasn't changed.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Democrats Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are walking a delicate line as they promise to aggressively tackle global warming while trying to assure voters that they continue to believe in the future of coal.

Point Made

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David Hawes @ 20:

As I've said, the very people who voted for Bush were the very people most f***ed by Him.Seems the same with McCain voters.

Yep! They refuse to see what has been done to them because it might make them look like victims of their own party. They can't allow themselves to admit that because then they wouldn't be "good republicans".

I put that last couple of words in quotes because members of my extended family used those very words when I asked them would they vote for McCain. They said yes, and they said that they would because they are good republicans.

David Hawes's picture

'Good Republicans' Ugh. Stepford wives and husbands. Test patterns. GOD and Flag (not nessessarily in that order)

EliteLemming's picture

pissed off patricia @ 24:

David Hawes @ 20:

As I've said, the very people who voted for Bush were the very people most f***ed by Him.Seems the same with McCain voters.

Yep! They refuse to see what has been done to them because it might make them look like victims of their own party. They can't allow themselves to admit that because then they wouldn't be "good republicans".

I put that last couple of words in quotes because members of my extended family used those very words when I asked them would they vote for McCain. They said yes, and they said that they would because they are good republicans.

I have to say it, this what Obama was talking about. My guns and God will protect me and elivate me and Bush believes in the Baby Jesus and will let me keep my guns so he's the one to protect and elavate the country.

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pissed off patricia @ 24:

David Hawes @ 20:

As I've said, the very people who voted for Bush were the very people most f***ed by Him.Seems the same with McCain voters.

Yep! They refuse to see what has been done to them because it might make them look like victims of their own party. They can't allow themselves to admit that because then they wouldn't be "good republicans".

I put that last couple of words in quotes because members of my extended family used those very words when I asked them would they vote for McCain. They said yes, and they said that they would because they are good republicans.

Does that mean they are not of the human race?

NoBuddy's picture

Judicial appointments is the number 1 reason why, if Clinton doesn't get the nomination, her supporters should be voting for Obama, and visa versa. When I hear supporters of either candidate saying that if their candidate doesn't get the nomination, that they'll vote for McCain, I think "Man, you're so stupid, you should be a Republican".

Anyhow, I hope the Senate stalls confirming appointments until the next President is elected. But remembering that Holy Joe is the reason the Democrats have the "majority", it should be clear that we need not be so myopic on the presidential election to the point that we forget we need a lot more Democrats in the Senate so that Senators like Lieberman can be made irrelevant. Let's get out that vote in November.

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Ron @ 27:

pissed off patricia @ 24:

David Hawes @ 20:

As I've said, the very people who voted for Bush were the very people most f***ed by Him.Seems the same with McCain voters.

Yep! They refuse to see what has been done to them because it might make them look like victims of their own party. They can't allow themselves to admit that because then they wouldn't be "good republicans".

I put that last couple of words in quotes because members of my extended family used those very words when I asked them would they vote for McCain. They said yes, and they said that they would because they are good republicans.

Does that mean they are not of the human race?

Tragicly,they are very human.

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Ron @ 27:

pissed off patricia @ 24:

David Hawes @ 20:

As I've said, the very people who voted for Bush were the very people most f***ed by Him.Seems the same with McCain voters.

Yep! They refuse to see what has been done to them because it might make them look like victims of their own party. They can't allow themselves to admit that because then they wouldn't be "good republicans".

I put that last couple of words in quotes because members of my extended family used those very words when I asked them would they vote for McCain. They said yes, and they said that they would because they are good republicans.

Does that mean they are not of the human race?

Not sure how you intended your question.

David Hawes's picture

Senate to Bush-'Send Me lawyers guns and Money'.

anon's picture

I hope for the best - it could happen.

But look at the history of the democratic party since Reagan.

Clinton killed it and did the work of the market-staters.

Two national elections were stolen in broad daylight - no one cares.

Interference in elections at all levels (by both parties) is common place - the vote is becoming meaningless.

2006 produced - well, nothing really.

... the war continues.

2008 primaries eliminated true change candidates.

... the economy takes the US into second nation status.

... does any of this give anyone unbounded hope?

2009 - will see more of the same from either party.

... who would you say was winning?

It could still happen - if people make them. But there still isnt much difference between Ford and Chevy. Just my opinion. I see a future filled with symbolisms and not much content.

Ron's picture

pissed off patricia @ 30:

Ron @ 27:

pissed off patricia @ 24:

David Hawes @ 20:

Yep! They refuse to see what has been done to them because it might make them look like victims of their own party. They can't allow themselves to admit that because then they wouldn't be "good republicans".

I put that last couple of words in quotes because members of my extended family used those very words when I asked them would they vote for McCain. They said yes, and they said that they would because they are good republicans.

Does that mean they are not of the human race?

Not sure how you intended your question.

I have relatives that think the same way. Sometimes I wonder what planet they are from.

EliteLemming's picture

Just for the record I was Elite before elitist was cool.

Meddy's picture

The more I read about the right wing, the more I realize that they are the worst of what America has to offer.

Ron @ 33:

pissed off patricia @ 30:

Ron @ 27:

pissed off patricia @ 24:
Does that mean they are not of the human race?

Not sure how you intended your question.

I have relatives that think the same way. Sometimes I wonder what planet they are from.

I hesitated to answer your question because one of the people I was talking about is named Ron. Almost all my in-laws are from that other planet when it comes to politics. I have to button my lip at family gatherings because I'm outnumbered by about a zillion to one. There are four of us liberals and the rest are god fearing, bush loving folks. Makes for interesting Thanksgiving dinners. The time I dropped some food and let the F-word fly, was a grand error, but even worse is my being a "liberal".

David Hawes's picture

POP LMAO! nuttin woise den a potty mouff libril.

TakeOurCountryBack's picture

Terrible Says:
Are we really sure that they are “caving in”? It’s begaining to seem more and more that this is what they want, fascism for all.

I agree and would further suggest that there are really no Dems or Repugs anymore except in party name only. The real allegiance these career criminals have is to multi-national corporations Who own just about everthing and want to privatize everything in this country. Once they privatize the police and the military they can use them against us. They can then remove the veil and be the fascist kings that they already are behind the scenes.
We are slowly moving toward a fascist form of govmt. For example...Blackwater is a privately owned security company (mercanary army) that now outnumbers the U.S. soldiers three to one. it's soldiers make triple what US soldiers make and they are accountable to no one as the state dept has granted them limited immunity. This is a private corporate army that owns military tanks, planes, helicoptors and all the other weapons you would expect a military organization to own and they are being partly funded by our government (your taxes!!)

Corporations already rule! Hell just look at the pathetic excuses for presidential candidates we are stuck with. Corporations own the media and they control who you have to pick from. Any candidate worth even listening to was run out of the race long ago by having the media either ignore, berate or scandalize them. The one's left are either totally inexperienced (obama) and he will be made into a puppet, or they are corporate insiders (Clinton & McCain) who will push to expand their executive powers even further.

Noam Chomsky once said " Politics is the shadow cast on society by big business,"

Terrible's picture

Sachem @ 13, to the best of my knowledge my Senator, Leahy, WILL oppose these nominies. But to be truthfull I don't know if I'd trust him to do that if his votes were needed to push them through.

Terrible's picture

Wouldn't "good Republicans" be pissed off as hell that their party has been taken over and subverted by fascists?

Terrible's picture

Well said TakeOurCountryBack. The question is - How do we return legitimate government to the United States of America without tearing it all down and starting from scratch? Because to tear it down and start from scratch is just the opportunity that the corporations want as they have the power with their illegal mercenary armies at this time to come out on top of such an endevour.

Republican Utopia (Hussein)'s picture

Dems are so used to bowing their heads and saying "yes sir." They don't know how to take any initiative or show any spine.

Ratface's picture

anon @ 32:

I hope for the best - it could happen.

But look at the history of the democratic party since Reagan.

Clinton killed it and did the work of the market-staters.

Two national elections were stolen in broad daylight - no one cares.

Interference in elections at all levels (by both parties) is common place - the vote is becoming meaningless.

2006 produced - well, nothing really.

... the war continues.

2008 primaries eliminated true change candidates.

... the economy takes the US into second nation status.

... does any of this give anyone unbounded hope?

2009 - will see more of the same from either party.

... who would you say was winning?

It could still happen - if people make them. But there still isnt much difference between Ford and Chevy. Just my opinion. I see a future filled with symbolisms and not much content.

So you are one of the many that say "no difference between
a Democrat in the White-House than a Republican. Have you
been living in the USA the past 7 years? Christ! This bullshit
thinking is why W is president. Please don't vote. Dumbass!

anon's picture

Ratface @ 43:

anon @ 32:

I hope for the best - it could happen.

But look at the history of the democratic party since Reagan.

Clinton killed it and did the work of the market-staters.

Two national elections were stolen in broad daylight - no one cares.

Interference in elections at all levels (by both parties) is common place - the vote is becoming meaningless.

2006 produced - well, nothing really.

... the war continues.

2008 primaries eliminated true change candidates.

... the economy takes the US into second nation status.

... does any of this give anyone unbounded hope?

2009 - will see more of the same from either party.

... who would you say was winning?

It could still happen - if people make them. But there still isnt much difference between Ford and Chevy. Just my opinion. I see a future filled with symbolisms and not much content.

So you are one of the many that say "no difference between
a Democrat in the White-House than a Republican. Have you
been living in the USA the past 7 years? Christ! This bullshit
thinking is why W is president. Please don't vote. Dumbass!

Hey ... dumbass ... dont reply to my posts again ... ever. This post was about the ... wait for it shit for brains ... DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

anon's picture

Sorry I lost my temper.

moondancer's picture

Get used to them, they're not going anywhere.Two are young, two are too mean to quit and Kennedy is narcissistic and loves the power of being the swing vote.

miss_kitty's picture

Expand the court. Next pres (assuming B and H don't flame out and take the democratic party with them and hopes for the White House with them), load it up with liberals. 9 is not the limit.

Che's Lounge's picture

Basically it showed Reid caving in the Mitch McConnell's threats to filibuster the highway funding bill unless the Democrats confirmed some more radical right extremists nominated for lifetime judicial positions by Bush.

Hillary calls it working within the system. I call that political extortion.

golden joe's picture

not just rightwingers but CORPORATE lawyers.

This to me is a hidden travisty of the Bush Admin. Lets put people in place to make rulings that are favorable to the corporations.

I am not so sure that Hillary wouldnt be doing the same as that is the trend in this countries politics.

We have been sold out. Its not longer about the individual - it's about the individual corporations. The argument being you hurt the corps - you hurt the people. The reality is the corps hurt the individuals but argue they are individuals.

liberAL's picture

Every time I see a picture of some "old" veteran in the crowd fawning all over McCain because he is "just like them" I want to throw up. Don't these veterans realize what a fake McCain is?

I grew up during WWII and had 6 uncles serve in various branches of the service. Thank God they all returned home. My son was in the Navy during the Viet Nam crisis. I was scared to death every day. McCain is no hero, but the American people have had it drilled day after day, year after year, that he is. These old veterans are living in yesterday. How anyone can be proud of McCain is beyond me. He was a loser from the time he graduated (near bottom of his class) til today.

VegasRage's picture

Can someone please remind me why the jelly-fish-O-crats deserve our vote any more than a Repuglickends?

ysbaddaden's picture

I found the names of the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse on the Supreme Court of 1934:

Willis Van Devanter, James C. McReynolds, George Sutherland, and Pierce Butler.

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anon @ 45:

Sorry I lost my temper.

Why is it when someone has anger management problems they say they have a temper, but when they get angry it is said they've lost their temper; shouldn't the phrase mean they're now calm?

Ruthless People's picture

Clinton's approval ratings were in the 60's when the Repthuglican obstructionist were standing in the way of Clinton's appointees. Bush's approval is in the 20's and Democrats cave. Good thing Bush's approval isn't in the 60's or the Dems might just pull out the Constitution from behind it's protective glass and stomp on it for him.

bozhidar balkas's picture

Now that we have jewish/christian zionism, aren't we nostalgic for fascism? I might be even wishing for return of nazism since my people were not earmarked for extirpation by nazis.
And, i have good news. The devil of my own tells me that the hell has been around so long, it has cooled own sufficiently to suit everybody. He, my  protector/adviser tells me that zionists will not be allowed in Hell because yahweh is giving (giving, not promising) zionists a planet of their own. So, i gave u good news. Let's cheer up. Even a bad joke is better than no joke.

ya know's picture

The Democrats need to stop trying to be Republocrats and do their job. These neocons need to be prosecuted and thrown in jail. One of the main reasons the neocons have been able to rig the system is because of the Democrats failure to follow the rule of law. It's not like the laws aren't on the books. The Democrats will be just as much to blame as the Repulicans for the sorry state this country is in. What's the point in having all of these laws if you're not going to enforce them? Hey Democrats, the Republicans are laughing at your ass's.

fiver's picture

Democrats aren't weak; they're complicit.

Paul's picture

Any Democrat who votes to seat any of these riechwing judges needs to lose his/her job.

JerryO's picture

You mean stacking the Courts? Wasn't that one of the main reasons for putting him in the White House in first place? You can't peacefully change a country over to fascism without first making it legal.

JerryO's picture

JerryO @ 59:

You mean stacking the Courts? Wasn't that one of the main reasons for putting him in the White House in first place? You can't peacefully change a country over to fascism without first making it legal.

P.S.

Besides it will be good for us...we need to be protected from those evil 'tarists'

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