Pennsylvania Primary Results
By Jamie Monday Apr 21, 2008 8:00pm[election 67]
Breaking: Voter Group Requests Extended Poll Hours
CBS has some exit poll data...
UPDATE: MSNBC has called the election for Clinton. At this writing, with just 3% of precincts reporting, the percentages are Clinton 53% Obama 47%.
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Go Huckabee!
Go Kucinich!
Oh well. To vote, or not to vote. That is the question.
lol! huckabeeeeeeeeee!!!!
go go power rangers!
Go Mega Godzilla!
go f*ck yourself
ckukahiko @ 4:
And below him is one that makes me laugh as much, and one that makes me laugh more.
The outcome of this race matters little, those 2 will continue to be butt-heads, butting heads.
Hey Gore, it is still not to late to enter.
Ron Paul and Huckabee forgot to get off the ballot I guess. We know who not to trust to unplug the coffee pot when the bar closes.
Dick Cheney @ 7:
So?
Ruthless People @ 6:
In an election year, never go against Gamera, The Children's Friend.
Che's Lounge @ 3:
Vote to keep McCain out of office.
No news is good news.
What's all this talk about a "dignified climb down" all about? Do they know something they're not reporting?
0% reporting and they havent called it yet? WTF?
The MSM are all saying "Penn is a must win for Hillary!" We all know Hillary will win by a narrow margin. The MSM just want an excuse to keep her in the race to beat up Obama for McCain. If she wins by a narrow margin the MSM can claim validity to let her alive another day to tear down Obama for McCain.
Rico @ 15:
They always know something that they end up not reporting.
HRC asks why Obama hasn't 'closed the deal' yet, as if his inability to decisively beat her is an indicator that he won't be a good candidate in the general election. This would be a brilliant argument IF she wasn't the candidate he, despite not 'closing the deal' is beating.
I mean if we buy her argument that this makes him a bad candidate for the GE, does it not follow she would be a worse candidate since he is beating her?
let's do it PA, put an end to this meaningless contest.....if barack wins, clinton is over; so too mccain....
otherwise, another couple months of mudslinging from the queen of skullduggery..
Go Obama! Go change!
fiver @ 12:
But never, ever, pull for Mothra. Pulling for a giant moth to win is like pulling for Dukakis.
CNN Live Election Results still at O%.
Ruthless People @ 22:
But Mothra comes with two palm sized Japanese twins. And thats always something to pull for.
The polls are closed, the pundits all know what the exit polls say, even though they are still embargoing the results.
According to Tom Brokaw, the magic number Hillary Clinton needs is a win by 10%, because otherwise she can't raise enough money to continue.
If Hillary had a 10% win all the TV pundits getting the exit poll numbers would already know ... and they don't.
QED Obama wins, or rather Hillary doesn't win enough.
Unless there is some Diebold weirdness that defies statistics.
Ruthless People @ 22:
Bring on all the geeks you want in the end King Kong is going to come at them Like a Spider Monkey.
MOTION DENIED
Polls closed at 8
Yes We Can!
Obama '08!
CD @ 26:
No way, not a chance. The King Kong-Godzilla match-up was fixed. Everyone knows electricity gives Godzilla more power, but the goofy producers still had Kong get desperately needed strength from the high tension wires. Damn Librul Media.
Blue Mark @ 25:
I'm curious as to the "problems" reported in Philly.....and whether they will end up helping HRC to win by that 10% margin and thus keeping her around for two more months of slapping Barack around on flag pin wearing and Rev. Wright. (rolls eyes)
CD @ 26:
The fight was thrown. In real life there is not way a big ape would have beat giant nuclear-ray-breathing reptile.
I'd probably be more excited if I haven't come to realization 'elections' are absolute farce.
odanny @ 28:
Let's have a conversation!....oh, nevermind. Hillary ditched that tired slogan.
Ruthless People @ 11:
Hahahahaha!! You both made me laugh for the first time today:)
odanny @ 28:
Really? How? What swing states has Barry won?
He's losing by a landslide in most white demos.
Fact is Hillary can win in Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Nevada, New Jersey, West Virginia, New Hampshire, and PA. Please tell me how we win in November without those states?
Obama's support is mostly upper income old liberals, who will vote for her in the general anyway. Hillary is carrying under $50k earners tonight, that's huge.
The Obama myth is over.
This entire thing with Hillary is ridiculous. She can't win in delegate count. She can't win in popular vote count. Calling all superdelegates to put us out of our misery before she beats us in November.
EliteLemming @ 341:
So you're asking me to get back in your EliteQueue?
Saloum @ 330:
I've been around long enough to remember the saying about Vietnam and the saying: "We had to burn the village in order to save it." It's something similar now with the Democratic party. With Hillary at the helm it's nothing more than Republican "light." You can keep it. Be happy. I'll move on.
Andy K Jong Il @ 331:
Looks like you may get you wish ;). I just hope that Montrealers don't set anymore Police cruisers on fire, seeing retards riot brings the right wing inside of me hehe.
I don't think the PA numbers will change much for the rest of night, it looks like a 5 - 6 point diff and that will be it.
Oh! Oh Canada anthem via saxaphone!!! awesome!!!
Saloum @ 343:
Remember Clinton won the Texas primary? Turns out, she didn't. Obama did
Remember how Hillary Clinton claimed a victory in the Texas primary a few weeks ago? And that public impression, combined with her big win in Ohio, fueled donations and kept the New York senator in the Democratic presidential nomination race? And now she's vowing to fight on right througIf you get a cowboy hat you can win the most Democratic presidential nominee delegates in Texas too, as Illinois Senator Barack Obama has now done over New York Senator Hillary Clinton after weeks of counting, finagling and caucusing in the Lone Star State to the convention in late August?
Well, Barack Obama supporters want people to return and reopen the Texas record book, now that the combined results of the primary and last weekend's caucuses show the Illinois senator actually ended up winning the most delegates in Texas -- by an Associated Press count of 99 to 94.
DELEGATE UPDATE: OBAMA WINS TX
NBC News has allocated the remaining nine Texas caucus delegates, 7-2, in favor of Obama. That means the Illinois senator has won the most delegates, 99-94, as a result of both the Texas primary and caucuses.
Obama now leads by 129 in the overall delegate count, 1637-1508. Obama leads by 162 pledged delegates, 1415-1253. (There remains just one delegate unallocated from Democrats Abroad.) Clinton leads among superdelegates, 255-222, per the NBC News Political Unit count.
Please refrain from calling people idiots. You know the old saying, better to say nothing and be thought foolish than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
ksec @ 318:
Ha!
Yes indeed. The leader is the one who should step down. Makes perfect sense.
Dean Booth @ 284:
they pull these numbers out of their asses so that they can play up divisions in the democratic demographic. good old "divide and conquer"
xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 333:
i have made the same decision, unfortunately- when she made the statement and then instead of "clarifying" or claiming "mispeaking" she confirmed it, i nearly lost my lunch. a win for clinton is a win for war profiteers- whether or not she beats mccain in the unlikely event she pulls the nod off.
@eliteLemming
LOL. But a caterpillar instead of a spider. It's too bad -- we could have emerged emerging from our chrysalis of hope and become a butterfly of yes-we-can!
...I still don't understand how 30% of those who voted for Hillary in PA plan to vote for McCain if she wins the nomination.
ezpz @ 321:
After 8 years of the chimp, you'd let McSame win and continue his abominable policies? Lifelong Democrat my ass.
BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Bullshit @ 350:
Everyone? I think your dramatically overestimating the amount of people who "get it".
L.A. Confidential @ 344:
You forgot her record high negatives and the Republican warehouse full of scandal ads from the last 16 years. However, I think both can win by virtue of the primary turnout alone. November's a long way off and who knows how senile Grandpa Munster(R) will be by then.
Nicole Belle @ 364:
And never argue with an idiot. People might not be able to tell the difference.
Ash"Hussy"Williams @ 359:
LOL. Never mind. I see your 309 comment.
What a bunch of bigots. Bet most of these people don't read a book in a year, some probably don't know how to read. Sorry about that, but the level of knowledge in this country is embarrassing. Do they even know who Dick Cheney is? Probably watch ABC and FOX. Probably listen to Rush all day long when they aren't tossing breakfast into their pie holes. Sorry again. But until the citizens of this country start paying attention, we are in serious danger of losing it, if we haven't already.
Gawd damn beer guzzling, shooting hillbillies
Go Obama!
Go USA!
Boo PA!
xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 333:
If Clinton were the nominee, which she won't be, the choice will be perfectly clear.
Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran, OR bomb Iran.
Lots of little bombs or a few big (BIG) bombs.
Either way, we're screwed.
Mister Anderson @ 303:
they are NOT really clinton backers, they are the rushlimpballsians, who crossed party lines to support clinton over obama. they were going to vote for mcAin'tGotNoFuckingSenseButI'm SureFuckingRich anyway!
EliteLemming @ 352:
There are moral victories if perception matters more than reality since the media is literally carrying the Clinton campaign at this point.
L.A. Confidential @ 372:
I for one prefer "mouth breathers". Doesn't have quite the sting to it as "idiot" yet gets the point across rather nicely.
Stosselitophobic @ 371:
Well I certainly hope Dem voters have enough developed discernment to realize all the 90's Clinton Chronicles stuff is not exactly reality based.
Fil @ 363:
If you haven't noticed yet, we're not supposed to be having any side banter. So choose a bench, put your chains back on and pull.
ps- If you pick the port side of the galley, you're fucked. And if you pick starboard...well, you're still fucked. FWIW
Ruthless People @ 353:
Those will be highly effective arguments no doubt when the democratic nominee looks to those states for some electoral college votes.
The Queen is speaking. Silence in the room, please!
Election Reform is still possible... Add your name... Contact your Representative.
Obama needs to go after those steady 10-20% of the Republican voters who are deeply in love with Ron Paul. Even though John McCain is set in stone as the nominee, Ron Paul is still getting 16% in PA, and these are people who are staunchly opposed to the Iraq War and are PRIME pickings for the General Election, if courted properly. They are also very economically savvy, understanding how the Fed is the root of our economic woes. Ron Paul supporters are not staunch republicans, and could be swayed to Obama for the General.
Andy K Jong Il @ 361:
No, sorry, just being bitter and facetious.
well, on the bright side, if clinton pulls this off, i will be able to tune out of politics...become an apathetic american once again....after all, we put in the dems in 06, they did nothing.....then they put up a candidate that supported the war, and is a corrupt dc hack like murtha, mccain, all the rest....
will be a lot of time saved.....no canvassing, no phone banking....no cnn, no tpmmuckraker....
SassySandy @ 360:
Maybe she will be McSenile's running mate...watch out Condi!
NEOCON thought for tomorrow.
Operation Chaos.
EliteLemming @ 341:
Until they create an all-Democratic (or lefter) social networking site I think you might have to deal with a little of what is called "socializing". It makes life easier, try it.
L.A. Confidential @ 370:
many people like what the media does. that does not mean that they don't "get it". It means that they agree. Like the pre-picked asshat who asked Obama about the flagpin while "not questioning his patriotism" or guy interviewed by fox who said Obama was right, but that Obama wouldn't get his vote.
Rico @ 383:
Speaking or shrieking?
Cieran @ 385:
It wouldn't have mattered in PA because they have a closed primary. Those republicans would have to switch parties and I guess they didn't think it was worth the hassle. He can target them in the general.
Peter G @ 382:
I'm not running for office so I can calls them as I sees em.
xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 333:
Thank you, and hi Xoites. :)
Go Ron Paul! I mean...Jesse...oops. Oh, never mind.
I think you have a Rendell-Clinton machine running the election. And what happens when you referee your own game? You win. No paper trail, people. Voting machines in Philly (where most of the people with dark skin live) mysteriously not working. The fix is in.
L.A. Confidential @ 32:
Ya, between how the elections are run, and how the politicians behave after elected (see 2006 Dem congress) it is hard to get excited. For me its just personal. Don't care too much about the eventual outcome in 'hope for a better tomorrow' terms, but more just to see people I like win and people I don't like lose.
Ruthless People @ 31:
Enough with the '04 election. The giant nuclear-ray-breathing reptile should've fought back earlier.
surprise....voting problems in philly
the fix is in
goddamn america
Saloum @ 35:
I hear this a lot and it doesn't make sense. Why does Obama losing a swing state to HRC relate to Obama not being able to beat McCain in that state? Are HRC and McCain the same?
Go Ron Jeremy!
Excellent point Ruthless People @ 31 (gotcha by a minute @ 29 :D ).
Go, go gadget flow!!
Can't wait for Grumpy McCain to pull off his Incredible Hulk impersonation. Who will finally get to him?
Saloum @ 35:
I'm dizzy from all that spinning. Do you work for the Clinton campaign?
Saloum @ 35:
there was never an obama myth...but there is a hillary myth
and that myth is that she is any different than mccain
oh, she may nominate libs for the supreme court...but even today, she was talking tuff about iran
im sick of the clintonistas....im sick of politics as usual
if white people dont wanna vote for obama, then fuck em...let them have hillary or mccain
and let this country fall right into the ocean....cuz im outa here
mexico, here i come
harley @ 389:
But Rush's favorite is "Operation OxyContin with Chili Cheese Fries"
Ash"Hussy"Williams @ 390:
Take it easy, that was socializing, didn't you catch the pun?
EliteLemming @ 386:
S'okay. Jesus, this thread has been exceedingly tame, when you think of what the rhetoric has and could have been like.
But the night's still young- for some of you, anyway. Too old to stay up and too young to retire. GNA!
harley @ 392:
No, you're thinking of a shrill.
The Queen in our is speaking. Now, let there be silence, please! ...except from our queen...please forgive me...
Clinton will pick up about 6 delegates.
$60M down the tubes.
L.A. Confidential @ 327:
It's tragic but hope springs eternal. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, I'm not only voting for him or her but I'll work to get that person elected.
switchgrass @ 399:
That would be "in our room". I accept my lashings with gratitude.
Nicole Belle @ 364:
But who won the popular vote? The people vote, speak and you folks refigure? Your name is not "Chad" is it?
StirFry @ 396:
With a Viagra chaser......
EliteLemming @ 397:
Can't him today? He was crying about I just want the best for everyone and the best for everyone is McCain. Save my tax cuts, please.
L.A. Confidential @ 32:
Totally agree and I for just myself won't vote in the General. Do you think that McCain or Hillary are going to give up the powers that GW has taken for himself during his tenure?
I heard one Hillary supporter say "She'll bring back the jobs". What a dreamer and how sad!
Barack Obama remains the strongest candidate to face John McCain. Here’s a good summary of some reasons to consider supporting Obama: http://acropolisreview.com/2008/04/top-reasons-to-give-barack-obama-your...
Share the summary with undecided friends in North Carolina and Indiana.
Left&Left @ 294:
There are typically strange numbers like that because of R Trolls crossing over for mischief.
McCain if that really is his name, has it locked. If I him, I wouldn't take all that much comfort in having two guys long out of the race still taking nearly thirty per cent.
The R Trolls are there to create mischief, and they make for some funny numbers.
nonbeliever @ 401:
more people need that spirit.
Ha! Clinton is so hard up for cash she just begged everyone to go to her website. jeez. Oh did you see chris matthews sneeze? msnbc talking heads are mega-nerds!
harley @ 400:
Didn't you get the memo from McAullife? It is not about delegates anymore. It's the popular vote and when they lose the popular vote they will move the goalposts to the people with red hair vote unless of course she loses that too.
How uninspiring, and bordering on the despicable. You'd think she'd at least try to reach out even just a little bit to those Democrats who haven't voted for her. But apparently that's not in her. She even finds a way to sling mud in a victory speech. Typical Clinton. No wonder her negatives keep growing.
nick @ 410:
I saw that. Certain to be one of the great moments in television one day.
amazing how the del count gets nullified. at 67%: it's 37 del to 31 del according to CNN.
I don't care what fanatics say, the numbers do matter.. and when they don't move much it just keeps to race longer in play, especially if the next contests continue in single digit points diff.
Puerto Rico the non-state to be the decider LOL
harley @ 405:
wha?
When does Philly report?
Rico @ 412:
i think clinton's plan is to pull a lieberman.....she's gonna narrow the gap, polarize the party, and then, when the inevitable happens and she doesn't get the nomination, she's gonna run as an independent.
I can no more listen to her speak than I can to Bush.
Both are equally sickening.
Nicole Belle @ 364:
All this blabbering and you said nothing to dispute what the facts are/were. Hillary won the Texas primary. Barry won more delegates in the TX caucus.
What's so difficult for you robotic cultists to grasp?
I love how when Hillary wins, it's a Diebold conspiracy. When Barry wins, it's because he's the second coming.
Sounds very GOP-ish to me.
Ut-oh. Hillary is giving us another anecdote. Wonder what delusion this story came from?
I did hear her shilling for cash. How bout dropping some of that 110 million fortune?
EliteLemming @ 416:
Computer froze up. Limbaugh went nearly into tears today about he just wants the best for America and that is McCain.
harley @ 393:
The unspoken truth about this election: Sexism trumps racism.
Amazing.
So, what a puerile conversation on C&L. Mothra, Godzila, Jet Jaguar references.... Cheep digs at Ron Paul, fake praise of Suckabee, total contempt of the process that will appoint Clinton the way Bush was appointed in 00' and the way we will have CHILDREN OF LEGAL DRINKING AGE who know no other president other than Bush or Clinton......
About Clinton, she will be the one to increase bombing in Iraq and start a new bombing run in Iran to prove she is a tough woman, will continue Reaganomics as Hubby Bubby did, and generally give us a kinder, gentler, version of Bush&Co. Not that Mothra (the Children's Friend) or my dinner would make a better administration than the current fools or McCrazy.
So, about Mothra.... Was he really the Children's Friend? Kinda' creepy to let your kids play with a 17 story bug... kinda' sad we're all so tired of the media manipulation and vote fraud we're regressing....
harley @ 392:
Couldn't watch or listen. I cannot spend another 4 or 8 or 12 years not bearing the sight or sound of the president. What do these people do to attract so many people? See, I didn't call them idiots. I didn't even use an adjective. Just sayin', we have a lot of work to do. Starting with the election system and continuing with finance reform. As long as the Military Industrial Complex has their Girl or Boy, we can't fail to fail. What would happen if all eligible voters got to select the president in one vote? No primaries, no campaigns, no fundraising, no ABC "debates". Just turn in your card with your selection. Just think about that for a minute. There would need to be a runoff, just turn in your card again.
yeah she just seems like everything she says is scripted and fake. i was backing her a couple months ago, but after hearing her enough it just sounds like a tape recording or the teacher in ferris beuler or something.
Barbara @ 417:
Clinton is getting her butt kicked in Philly. It is the Northern PA districts that is making her numbers looks good.
Saloum @ 420:
you win, and you're still a bitter jerk? is that your silent acknowledgement that you indeed have no chance at winning the prize
Is this the only thread tonight. I'm more than bored with the internecine rivalry.
I'm in Indiana, I have little doubt the Democrats in my state will go for Clinton and in the general election, regardless of which candidate wins the nomination, it will go for McCain. The fact is though, it will be much closer if Obama is the nominee. I live and work with Redstaters and most are really non-political. That said, they have internalized the Corporate Media narratives and swallow McCain's cultivated image as the straight-talking moderate maverick non-Republican Republican and that the Clintons are evil. I believe that this is the case with the majority of American voters and no amount of facts will change that perception. Clinton supporters need to get outside their Liberal social bubbles and talk to average, mis and under informed voters.
Great victory speech tonight for Hillary.
Nice to see Bill back on stage with her as well.
She was kind to Barry O'.
I guarantee there's worry in his camp.
guess steve p wont cut my grass now with a happy heart and a smile on his face!
Harley, they will report last then, right. And this is 70% of precints reporting, not 70% of the vote. So we should start doing better.
Saloum @ 35:
Fact is, Obama is not going to lose all of those states, and he puts many other states in play, like Virginia. On top of that, he'll help many of the candidates below him on the ticket, so we'll finally be able to ditch Holy Joe.
If your facts are correct, why is it that most of Hillary's supporters are max donors, yet so many of Obama's "rich" supporters are in for $50-100? I'm not sure if I agree with your definition of upper income.
Does anyone remember - Did the Networks (MSM) call Ohio for Hillary when the polls closed; or was it later?
fiver @ 43:
I noticed. At least we are both in the reality based community......when it comes to make believe monsters in fights anyway.
I heard a rumor that Ron Paul was still running campaign ads against McCain... y'know, just in case McCain drops dead, being he's 132 years old and all.
Filthy Harry @ 38:
Rage fatigue, plastic dirt and happy hour in techno-totalitarian America
Fact is Hillary can win in Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Nevada, New Jersey, West Virginia, New Hampshire, and PA. Please tell me how we win in November without those states?
Saloum,
You think those Hill voters won't cover Obama (or vice versa) in the general?
Gotta go now. My spaceship is returning to Earth.
Filthy Harry @ 41:
Yeah, uhhh, he's not even my third choice as a candidate, but what does a D versus D primary have to do with an R vs. D general election?
And why do people keep saying Hillary won Texas when she LOST Texas?
Obama vs. Clinton is like Ali vs. Frazier. They're two VERY GREAT FIGHTERS who can't knock each other out. Obama has the Black vote, youth vote, rich vote, and educated vote that will not move. Clinton has women, high school education, and blue collar that will not move. In any state where one outnumbers the other, that candidate will win.
Like the Thrilla in Manilla, they're too battered and beat up to knock each other out, and they may die trying to make it to the end and look at the scorecards where Obama is leading.
That's why this race isn't over.
But my guess is that if Obama keeps it under 10 in Pennsylvania, and wins in Indy, then Clinton's trainers will not let her back into the ring for the 15th and final round because they care more about her legacy and the Democratic party than her hopeless ambition.
Ewww, gross. William Bennett on a panel in CNN? Turgid in appearance and opinion. Do they pay him?
Pickles @ 56:
Maybe they just pay his gambling debts.
Filthy Harry @ 41:
They've already done enough scientific studies to show there is no correlation between primary wins and general election wins. Bush won New York in the 2000 primary, he didn't come close in the general.
Saloum @ 35:
Fact is Hillary can win in Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Nevada, New Jersey, West Virginia, New Hampshire, and PA. Please tell me how we win in November without those states?
Obama will easily take Ohio, it is a thoroughly blue state (and always has been). The Democratic party was highly disfunctional over the last twenty years, and the Republicans benefited from outrageous gerrymandering and a big bias in favor of rural constituencies to hold control of the state until 2006. But everything has changed now. Blackwell couldn't steal enough votes to win the election he counted in 2006 (he stole 14% of the votes, but needed 30). In 2008 Ken Blackwell and the RNC won't be tabulating the votes, Obama will win Ohio, guaranteed.
Ruthless People @ 50:
lol
Isome Hussein @ 54:
Exactly! It's all about delegates and Obama won the most delegates in Texas.
Che's Lounge @ 53:
Obama can win Michigan, Nevada, New Jersey, New Hampshire and Pennsylvania in November. He can also win Colorado, Viriginia, and Missouri. And there's no chance he'll lose Wisconsin or Minnesota which can turn red quite easily.
Mister Anderson @ 55:
I don't think she would be a bad president. Then again I have zero emotions invested in the Obama-Clinton "matchup". Either will be a relief from Bush Jr.
Che's Lounge @ 45:
Lets start a pool on when that big bulging vein along the side of his neck will burst.
I'll take 11:03:33 AM on June 22nd.
Spoke to many of my Pennsylvania contacts today and the Diebold machines are confusing elderly Pennsylvania voters. Not sure who this helps.
Damn blockquotes messed up attribution, try this again:
I am on the ground in Ohio, there is no way McCain is going to win Ohio in the general.
Obama will easily take Ohio, it is a thoroughly blue state (and always has been). The Democratic party was highly disfunctional over the last twenty years, and the Republicans benefited from outrageous gerrymandering and a big bias in favor of rural constituencies to hold control of the state until 2006. But everything has changed now. Blackwell couldn't steal enough votes to win the election he counted in 2006 (he stole 14% of the votes, but needed 30). In 2008 Ken Blackwell and the RNC won't be tabulating the votes, Obama will win Ohio, guaranteed.
L.A. Confidential @ 63:
Clinton or Obama regardless of who it is big business we'll still start knocking down the door wanting favors for their sheep shearing industries.
MSM - Finally a mention of Hagee! Begala faces fat Bennett!
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thats one of the stupidest talking points i've heard in a long time, carrying a state in the primary's has NOTHING to do with carrying that state in the general. hell, hillary won texas. you think shes gonna carry texas in the general? if you do, im going to have to think your retarded
MSNBC has changed it's "Too Close To Call" slogan, to "Too Early To Call", saying HRC has a lead and will probaby win.
How come it is showing 15 delegates for Hillary and only five for Barack and they are not reporting? Are those superdelegates? I'm so confused
harley @ 427:
I guess Diebold the conspiracy isn't working in Philly.
It's impossible for hillary to win the nomination. she should leave and not worry about paying her debts with campaign contributions; she has plenty of money. This woman is determine to rip the dems before she leaves.
Good speech Hill, go out with class and drop out
harley @ 401:
I just peed myself!
I find this very interesting.
Saloum @ 423:
No sexist she is a shierker.
My cats run for cover when she starts doing that.
Saloum, no worry at all. She was up by 30 just a few weeks ago. He has it down to 8 and it will shrink further once Philly reports. Supers will start going for Obama soon and I definately won't vote for her after her "obliterate Iran with a nuke" comment
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