Pennsylvania Primary Results
By Jamie Monday Apr 21, 2008 7:00pm[election 67]
Breaking: Voter Group Requests Extended Poll Hours
CBS has some exit poll data...
UPDATE: MSNBC has called the election for Clinton. At this writing, with just 3% of precincts reporting, the percentages are Clinton 53% Obama 47%.
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Go Huckabee!
Go Kucinich!
Oh well. To vote, or not to vote. That is the question.
lol! huckabeeeeeeeeee!!!!
go go power rangers!
Go Mega Godzilla!
go f*ck yourself
ckukahiko @ 4:
And below him is one that makes me laugh as much, and one that makes me laugh more.
The outcome of this race matters little, those 2 will continue to be butt-heads, butting heads.
Hey Gore, it is still not to late to enter.
Ron Paul and Huckabee forgot to get off the ballot I guess. We know who not to trust to unplug the coffee pot when the bar closes.
Dick Cheney @ 7:
So?
Ruthless People @ 6:
In an election year, never go against Gamera, The Children's Friend.
Che's Lounge @ 3:
Vote to keep McCain out of office.
No news is good news.
What's all this talk about a "dignified climb down" all about? Do they know something they're not reporting?
0% reporting and they havent called it yet? WTF?
The MSM are all saying "Penn is a must win for Hillary!" We all know Hillary will win by a narrow margin. The MSM just want an excuse to keep her in the race to beat up Obama for McCain. If she wins by a narrow margin the MSM can claim validity to let her alive another day to tear down Obama for McCain.
Rico @ 15:
They always know something that they end up not reporting.
HRC asks why Obama hasn't 'closed the deal' yet, as if his inability to decisively beat her is an indicator that he won't be a good candidate in the general election. This would be a brilliant argument IF she wasn't the candidate he, despite not 'closing the deal' is beating.
I mean if we buy her argument that this makes him a bad candidate for the GE, does it not follow she would be a worse candidate since he is beating her?
let's do it PA, put an end to this meaningless contest.....if barack wins, clinton is over; so too mccain....
otherwise, another couple months of mudslinging from the queen of skullduggery..
Go Obama! Go change!
fiver @ 12:
But never, ever, pull for Mothra. Pulling for a giant moth to win is like pulling for Dukakis.
CNN Live Election Results still at O%.
Ruthless People @ 22:
But Mothra comes with two palm sized Japanese twins. And thats always something to pull for.
The polls are closed, the pundits all know what the exit polls say, even though they are still embargoing the results.
According to Tom Brokaw, the magic number Hillary Clinton needs is a win by 10%, because otherwise she can't raise enough money to continue.
If Hillary had a 10% win all the TV pundits getting the exit poll numbers would already know ... and they don't.
QED Obama wins, or rather Hillary doesn't win enough.
Unless there is some Diebold weirdness that defies statistics.
Ruthless People @ 22:
Bring on all the geeks you want in the end King Kong is going to come at them Like a Spider Monkey.
MOTION DENIED
Polls closed at 8
Yes We Can!
Obama '08!
CD @ 26:
No way, not a chance. The King Kong-Godzilla match-up was fixed. Everyone knows electricity gives Godzilla more power, but the goofy producers still had Kong get desperately needed strength from the high tension wires. Damn Librul Media.
Blue Mark @ 25:
I'm curious as to the "problems" reported in Philly.....and whether they will end up helping HRC to win by that 10% margin and thus keeping her around for two more months of slapping Barack around on flag pin wearing and Rev. Wright. (rolls eyes)
CD @ 26:
The fight was thrown. In real life there is not way a big ape would have beat giant nuclear-ray-breathing reptile.
I'd probably be more excited if I haven't come to realization 'elections' are absolute farce.
odanny @ 28:
Let's have a conversation!....oh, nevermind. Hillary ditched that tired slogan.
Ruthless People @ 11:
Hahahahaha!! You both made me laugh for the first time today:)
odanny @ 28:
Really? How? What swing states has Barry won?
He's losing by a landslide in most white demos.
Fact is Hillary can win in Ohio, Michigan, Florida, Nevada, New Jersey, West Virginia, New Hampshire, and PA. Please tell me how we win in November without those states?
Obama's support is mostly upper income old liberals, who will vote for her in the general anyway. Hillary is carrying under $50k earners tonight, that's huge.
The Obama myth is over.
This entire thing with Hillary is ridiculous. She can't win in delegate count. She can't win in popular vote count. Calling all superdelegates to put us out of our misery before she beats us in November.
EliteLemming @ 341:
So you're asking me to get back in your EliteQueue?
Saloum @ 330:
I've been around long enough to remember the saying about Vietnam and the saying: "We had to burn the village in order to save it." It's something similar now with the Democratic party. With Hillary at the helm it's nothing more than Republican "light." You can keep it. Be happy. I'll move on.
Andy K Jong Il @ 331:
Looks like you may get you wish ;). I just hope that Montrealers don't set anymore Police cruisers on fire, seeing retards riot brings the right wing inside of me hehe.
I don't think the PA numbers will change much for the rest of night, it looks like a 5 - 6 point diff and that will be it.
Oh! Oh Canada anthem via saxaphone!!! awesome!!!
Saloum @ 343:
Remember Clinton won the Texas primary? Turns out, she didn't. Obama did
Remember how Hillary Clinton claimed a victory in the Texas primary a few weeks ago? And that public impression, combined with her big win in Ohio, fueled donations and kept the New York senator in the Democratic presidential nomination race? And now she's vowing to fight on right througIf you get a cowboy hat you can win the most Democratic presidential nominee delegates in Texas too, as Illinois Senator Barack Obama has now done over New York Senator Hillary Clinton after weeks of counting, finagling and caucusing in the Lone Star State to the convention in late August?
Well, Barack Obama supporters want people to return and reopen the Texas record book, now that the combined results of the primary and last weekend's caucuses show the Illinois senator actually ended up winning the most delegates in Texas -- by an Associated Press count of 99 to 94.
DELEGATE UPDATE: OBAMA WINS TX
NBC News has allocated the remaining nine Texas caucus delegates, 7-2, in favor of Obama. That means the Illinois senator has won the most delegates, 99-94, as a result of both the Texas primary and caucuses.
Obama now leads by 129 in the overall delegate count, 1637-1508. Obama leads by 162 pledged delegates, 1415-1253. (There remains just one delegate unallocated from Democrats Abroad.) Clinton leads among superdelegates, 255-222, per the NBC News Political Unit count.
Please refrain from calling people idiots. You know the old saying, better to say nothing and be thought foolish than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
ksec @ 318:
Ha!
Yes indeed. The leader is the one who should step down. Makes perfect sense.
Dean Booth @ 284:
they pull these numbers out of their asses so that they can play up divisions in the democratic demographic. good old "divide and conquer"
xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 333:
i have made the same decision, unfortunately- when she made the statement and then instead of "clarifying" or claiming "mispeaking" she confirmed it, i nearly lost my lunch. a win for clinton is a win for war profiteers- whether or not she beats mccain in the unlikely event she pulls the nod off.
@eliteLemming
LOL. But a caterpillar instead of a spider. It's too bad -- we could have emerged emerging from our chrysalis of hope and become a butterfly of yes-we-can!
...I still don't understand how 30% of those who voted for Hillary in PA plan to vote for McCain if she wins the nomination.
ezpz @ 321:
After 8 years of the chimp, you'd let McSame win and continue his abominable policies? Lifelong Democrat my ass.
BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Bullshit @ 350:
Everyone? I think your dramatically overestimating the amount of people who "get it".
L.A. Confidential @ 344:
You forgot her record high negatives and the Republican warehouse full of scandal ads from the last 16 years. However, I think both can win by virtue of the primary turnout alone. November's a long way off and who knows how senile Grandpa Munster(R) will be by then.
Nicole Belle @ 364:
And never argue with an idiot. People might not be able to tell the difference.
Ash"Hussy"Williams @ 359:
LOL. Never mind. I see your 309 comment.
What a bunch of bigots. Bet most of these people don't read a book in a year, some probably don't know how to read. Sorry about that, but the level of knowledge in this country is embarrassing. Do they even know who Dick Cheney is? Probably watch ABC and FOX. Probably listen to Rush all day long when they aren't tossing breakfast into their pie holes. Sorry again. But until the citizens of this country start paying attention, we are in serious danger of losing it, if we haven't already.
Gawd damn beer guzzling, shooting hillbillies
Go Obama!
Go USA!
Boo PA!
xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 333:
If Clinton were the nominee, which she won't be, the choice will be perfectly clear.
Bomb, bomb, bomb Iran, OR bomb Iran.
Lots of little bombs or a few big (BIG) bombs.
Either way, we're screwed.
Mister Anderson @ 303:
they are NOT really clinton backers, they are the rushlimpballsians, who crossed party lines to support clinton over obama. they were going to vote for mcAin'tGotNoFuckingSenseButI'm SureFuckingRich anyway!
EliteLemming @ 352:
There are moral victories if perception matters more than reality since the media is literally carrying the Clinton campaign at this point.
L.A. Confidential @ 372:
I for one prefer "mouth breathers". Doesn't have quite the sting to it as "idiot" yet gets the point across rather nicely.
Stosselitophobic @ 371:
Well I certainly hope Dem voters have enough developed discernment to realize all the 90's Clinton Chronicles stuff is not exactly reality based.
Fil @ 363:
If you haven't noticed yet, we're not supposed to be having any side banter. So choose a bench, put your chains back on and pull.
ps- If you pick the port side of the galley, you're fucked. And if you pick starboard...well, you're still fucked. FWIW
Ruthless People @ 353:
Those will be highly effective arguments no doubt when the democratic nominee looks to those states for some electoral college votes.
The Queen is speaking. Silence in the room, please!
Election Reform is still possible... Add your name... Contact your Representative.
Obama needs to go after those steady 10-20% of the Republican voters who are deeply in love with Ron Paul. Even though John McCain is set in stone as the nominee, Ron Paul is still getting 16% in PA, and these are people who are staunchly opposed to the Iraq War and are PRIME pickings for the General Election, if courted properly. They are also very economically savvy, understanding how the Fed is the root of our economic woes. Ron Paul supporters are not staunch republicans, and could be swayed to Obama for the General.
Andy K Jong Il @ 361:
No, sorry, just being bitter and facetious.
well, on the bright side, if clinton pulls this off, i will be able to tune out of politics...become an apathetic american once again....after all, we put in the dems in 06, they did nothing.....then they put up a candidate that supported the war, and is a corrupt dc hack like murtha, mccain, all the rest....
will be a lot of time saved.....no canvassing, no phone banking....no cnn, no tpmmuckraker....
SassySandy @ 360:
Maybe she will be McSenile's running mate...watch out Condi!
NEOCON thought for tomorrow.
Operation Chaos.
EliteLemming @ 341:
Until they create an all-Democratic (or lefter) social networking site I think you might have to deal with a little of what is called "socializing". It makes life easier, try it.
L.A. Confidential @ 370:
many people like what the media does. that does not mean that they don't "get it". It means that they agree. Like the pre-picked asshat who asked Obama about the flagpin while "not questioning his patriotism" or guy interviewed by fox who said Obama was right, but that Obama wouldn't get his vote.
Rico @ 383:
Speaking or shrieking?
Cieran @ 385:
It wouldn't have mattered in PA because they have a closed primary. Those republicans would have to switch parties and I guess they didn't think it was worth the hassle. He can target them in the general.
Peter G @ 382:
I'm not running for office so I can calls them as I sees em.
xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 333:
Thank you, and hi Xoites. :)
Go Ron Paul! I mean...Jesse...oops. Oh, never mind.
I think you have a Rendell-Clinton machine running the election. And what happens when you referee your own game? You win. No paper trail, people. Voting machines in Philly (where most of the people with dark skin live) mysteriously not working. The fix is in.
L.A. Confidential @ 32:
Ya, between how the elections are run, and how the politicians behave after elected (see 2006 Dem congress) it is hard to get excited. For me its just personal. Don't care too much about the eventual outcome in 'hope for a better tomorrow' terms, but more just to see people I like win and people I don't like lose.
Ruthless People @ 31:
Enough with the '04 election. The giant nuclear-ray-breathing reptile should've fought back earlier.
surprise....voting problems in philly
the fix is in
goddamn america
Saloum @ 35:
I hear this a lot and it doesn't make sense. Why does Obama losing a swing state to HRC relate to Obama not being able to beat McCain in that state? Are HRC and McCain the same?
Go Ron Jeremy!
Excellent point Ruthless People @ 31 (gotcha by a minute @ 29 :D ).
Go, go gadget flow!!
Can't wait for Grumpy McCain to pull off his Incredible Hulk impersonation. Who will finally get to him?
Saloum @ 35:
I'm dizzy from all that spinning. Do you work for the Clinton campaign?
Saloum @ 35:
there was never an obama myth...but there is a hillary myth
and that myth is that she is any different than mccain
oh, she may nominate libs for the supreme court...but even today, she was talking tuff about iran
im sick of the clintonistas....im sick of politics as usual
if white people dont wanna vote for obama, then fuck em...let them have hillary or mccain
and let this country fall right into the ocean....cuz im outa here
mexico, here i come
harley @ 389:
But Rush's favorite is "Operation OxyContin with Chili Cheese Fries"
Ash"Hussy"Williams @ 390:
Take it easy, that was socializing, didn't you catch the pun?
EliteLemming @ 386:
S'okay. Jesus, this thread has been exceedingly tame, when you think of what the rhetoric has and could have been like.
But the night's still young- for some of you, anyway. Too old to stay up and too young to retire. GNA!
harley @ 392:
No, you're thinking of a shrill.
The Queen in our is speaking. Now, let there be silence, please! ...except from our queen...please forgive me...
Clinton will pick up about 6 delegates.
$60M down the tubes.
L.A. Confidential @ 327:
It's tragic but hope springs eternal. Whoever the Democratic nominee is, I'm not only voting for him or her but I'll work to get that person elected.
switchgrass @ 399:
That would be "in our room". I accept my lashings with gratitude.
Nicole Belle @ 364:
But who won the popular vote? The people vote, speak and you folks refigure? Your name is not "Chad" is it?