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Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die)'s picture

In the long run, there is no long run.

Joe Pasetto's picture

Hey now!

Jared Wolfhope's picture

Elisabeth on the view is getting hammered bad. Actually a not half bad discussion so far.

diamondmc's picture

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

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diamondmc @ 4:

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

John Ashcroft thinks that students learn the difference between "pour" and "force" in anatomy class.

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Jared Wolfhope @ 3:

Elisabeth on the view is getting hammered bad. Actually a not half bad discussion so far.

How can you actually watch that show and not get ill?

DC's picture

It is now time for the Democrats to start funding 527s that bring up the negatives of John McCain.
“It is absolutely critical that McCain's negatives go up with Republicans.” So said Me. Where are the super smart people in the democratic party that will help make this happen?

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Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

diamondmc @ 4:

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

John Ashcroft thinks that students learn the difference between "pour" and "force" in anatomy class.

Hahaha good one, I like that, all most spilled my coffee.

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DC @ 7:

So said Me. Where are the super smart people in the democratic party that will help make this happen?

They sold out. Many people haven woke up and realized these so called super smart people have led them right straight into Hell.

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Hillary supporter threatening Reps. Brad Ellsworth, Baron Hill and Joe Donnolly?

In an interview today, Bayh said he has appealed to Ellsworth, Hill and Donnolly to stay out of the race until their voters have spoken. Clinton will take all three of their districts, he said.

"Why should they get crosswise with some of their friends if they really don't need to?" asked Bayh, perhaps the most powerful elected Democrat in the state.

The question is, why didn't Bayh wait until the people of Indiana voted before he endorsed? Hypocrital?

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"It is absolutely critical that Obama's negatives go up with Republicans." So says the Republican marketing woman Hillary Clinton.

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diamondmc @ 4:

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

How the hell does John Ashcroft justify this?
Your goverment is truly corrupted beyond understanding to us in the rest of the world.

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Mike the Canuck @ 12:

diamondmc @ 4:

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

How the hell does John Ashcroft justify this?
Your goverment is truly corrupted beyond understanding to us in the rest of the world.

He justifys it the same way our VP does, just go fuck yourself...

I used to believe Ashcroft was somewhat a very strange man. Like when he put the drape over lady liberty's breasts. Reading this piece gives me no reason to change my first impression of him. He is a very strange man. There seems to be an abundance of these sorts of men in the republican party.

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The crime - terror connection in that ad is laughable but why exactly did Obama vote against it? I can't really think of a reason not to - it keeps kids from joining gangs, sends a message gang violence will not be tolerated and helps to break up gangs. The only argument I could see here enless I'm missing something is the anti-death penalty argument which although valid doesn't really seem to be worthwhile here. That is my opinion though.

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pissed off patricia @ 14:

I used to believe Ashcroft was somewhat a very strange man. Like when he put the drape over lady liberty's breasts. Reading this piece gives me no reason to change my first impression of him. He is a very strange man. There seems to be an abundance of these sorts of men in the republican party.

In Genesis, did Eve cover her breasts?

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Tim @ 15:

The crime - terror connection in that ad is laughable but why exactly did Obama vote against it? I can't really think of a reason not to - it keeps kids from joining gangs, sends a message gang violence will not be tolerated and helps to break up gangs. The only argument I could see here enless I'm missing something is the anti-death penalty argument which although valid doesn't really seem to be worthwhile here. That is my opinion though.

If I recall correctly, it involved sending kids under twenty one either to jail for life or maybe the death penalty.

Ron @ 16:

pissed off patricia @ 14:

I used to believe Ashcroft was somewhat a very strange man. Like when he put the drape over lady liberty's breasts. Reading this piece gives me no reason to change my first impression of him. He is a very strange man. There seems to be an abundance of these sorts of men in the republican party.

In Genesis, did Eve cover her breasts?

Couldn't tell ya 'cause I wasn't there.

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pissed off patricia @ 18:

Ron @ 16:

pissed off patricia @ 14:

I used to believe Ashcroft was somewhat a very strange man. Like when he put the drape over lady liberty's breasts. Reading this piece gives me no reason to change my first impression of him. He is a very strange man. There seems to be an abundance of these sorts of men in the republican party.

In Genesis, did Eve cover her breasts?

Couldn't tell ya 'cause I wasn't there.

Either was Eve.

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John McCain gets tax-free disability pension

Sen. John McCain has long said he is in robust health and is strong enough to hike the Grand Canyon, but he also is receiving what his staff Monday termed a "disability pension" from the Navy.

When McCain released his tax return for 2007 on Friday, he separately disclosed that he received a pension of $58,358 that was not listed as income on his return.

On Monday, McCain's staff identified the retirement benefit as a "disability pension" and said that McCain "was retired as disabled because of his limited body movements due to injuries as a POW."

McCain campaign strategist Mark Salter said Monday night that McCain was technically disabled. "Tortured for his country -- that is how he acquired his disability," Salter said.

Certain types of military and veterans pensions are either partially or completely tax-exempt, depending on the seriousness of the disability. In McCain's case, the exemption is 100%....

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-pension22apr22,1,6562984.story

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wijg @ 20:

John McCain gets tax-free disability pension

Sen. John McCain has long said he is in robust health and is strong enough to hike the Grand Canyon, but he also is receiving what his staff Monday termed a "disability pension" from the Navy.

When McCain released his tax return for 2007 on Friday, he separately disclosed that he received a pension of $58,358 that was not listed as income on his return.

On Monday, McCain's staff identified the retirement benefit as a "disability pension" and said that McCain "was retired as disabled because of his limited body movements due to injuries as a POW."

McCain campaign strategist Mark Salter said Monday night that McCain was technically disabled. "Tortured for his country -- that is how he acquired his disability," Salter said.

Certain types of military and veterans pensions are either partially or completely tax-exempt, depending on the seriousness of the disability. In McCain's case, the exemption is 100%....

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-pension22apr22,1,6562984.story

Wow, I can't believe you are that stupid. He couldn't walk for months and it took him years to regain his strength back. His arms are permanently damaged from the torture he endured and his hair is white. I would say he deserves disability from the navy.

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Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

diamondmc @ 4:

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

John Ashcroft thinks that students learn the difference between "pour" and "force" in anatomy class.

Is that quote from Ashcroft really accurate? It seems to stupid to be true.

Bud's picture

I think there are one too many "N"'s in "Annals of Journalism"...

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galmud @ 22:

Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

diamondmc @ 4:

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

John Ashcroft thinks that students learn the difference between "pour" and "force" in anatomy class.

Is that quote from Ashcroft really accurate? It seems to stupid to be true.

I paraphrased. According to the at-Largely post, the actual quote goes like this:

ASHCROFT: (shouting) You hear that? You hear it? "Forced!" If you can't tell the difference between forcing and pouring...does this college have an anatomy class?

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Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

diamondmc @ 4:

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

John Ashcroft thinks that students learn the difference between "pour" and "force" in anatomy class.

Hey, of course we are more humane. After all, our water is cleaner than their water!

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sparafucilli @ 25:

Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

diamondmc @ 4:

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

John Ashcroft thinks that students learn the difference between "pour" and "force" in anatomy class.

Hey, of course we are more humane. After all, our water is cleaner than their water!

And its blessed by god, because as we all know, god is a red blooded american repug.

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If you are strapped down and water is poured in your mouth and nose and you have no way to stop it, that IS force. Having no choice is FORCE. I don't want anyone to be tortured but if he could give us a demonstration, using himself as a victim, I would like to see it.

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As Food Prices Soar, Some Shortages Appear

"Global food stocks for basic commodities like rice, wheat, other basic commodities have fallen so low that we're actually starting to see shortages here in the U.S.," Scott Faber of the Grocery Manufacturers Association ..

Rice Climbs to Record as Wal-Mart Unit Limits Rice Purchases

April 24 (Bloomberg) -- Rice advanced above $25 for the first time as Wal-Mart Stores Inc.'s Sam's Club warehouse unit restricted purchases of some types of rice in the U.S.

The cereal, the staple food for half the world, has more than doubled in the past year as China, Vietnam and India curbed exports to safeguard domestic supplies. Sam's Club limited customers to four bags of jasmine, basmati and long-grain white rice per visit in all U.S. stores where allowed by law, company spokeswoman Kristy Reed said by e-mail.

Consumers have started hoarding rice as supplies shrink. Thailand, which ships one third of the world's exports, may restrict sales, a World Bank official said this week. Wheat, corn and soybeans gained to records this year, spurring social unrest in countries including Haiti and Egypt.

``We have been neglecting our basic rice production infrastructure and research and development for 15 years,'' said Robert Zeigler, director-general of the International Rice Research Institute in the Philippines. ``National hoarding really doesn't help the market,'' he told Bloomberg Television.

Japan is a market pioneer again: the first industrialised nation with no butter

The manager of the Z-one supermarket, five minutes from Prada’s flagship store and in the heart of Tokyo’s chicest residential area, shrugs her shoulders and suggests margarine.

Japan, she says apologetically, has nearly exhausted its butter reserves. When the shop will next have any, she whispers, is anybody’s guess.

Even as the elderly shopkeeper explains the acute national butter shortage, she can barely believe her own words: Japanese farmers who once scoffed at the low prices of imported cattle feed have been crippled by the global rise in grain prices.

And a rich country that has not gone without anything it wanted on its plate for 35 years is suddenly panicking about food security.

Japan's hunger becomes a dire warning for other nations

Japan's acute butter shortage, which has confounded bakeries, restaurants and now families across the country, is the latest unforeseen result of the global agricultural commodities crisis.

A sharp increase in the cost of imported cattle feed and a decline in milk imports, both of which are typically provided in large part by Australia, have prevented dairy farmers from keeping pace with demand.

While soaring food prices have triggered rioting among the starving millions of the third world, in wealthy Japan they have forced a pampered population to contemplate the shocking possibility of a long-term — perhaps permanent — reduction in the quality and quantity of its food.

A 130% rise in the global cost of wheat in the past year, caused partly by surging demand from China and India and a huge injection of speculative funds into wheat futures, has forced the Government to hit flour millers with three rounds of stiff mark-ups. The latest — a 30% increase this month — has given rise to speculation that Japan, which relies on imports for 90% of its annual wheat consumption, is no longer on the brink of a food crisis, but has fallen off the cliff.
According to one government poll, 80% of Japanese are frightened about what the future holds for their food supply.

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Amnesty Unveils Shock ‘Waterboarding’ Film

Short, disturbing video clip included with article.

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Tim @ 21:

wijg @ 20:

John McCain gets tax-free disability pension

Sen. John McCain has long said he is in robust health and is strong enough to hike the Grand Canyon, but he also is receiving what his staff Monday termed a "disability pension" from the Navy.

When McCain released his tax return for 2007 on Friday, he separately disclosed that he received a pension of $58,358 that was not listed as income on his return.

On Monday, McCain's staff identified the retirement benefit as a "disability pension" and said that McCain "was retired as disabled because of his limited body movements due to injuries as a POW."

McCain campaign strategist Mark Salter said Monday night that McCain was technically disabled. "Tortured for his country -- that is how he acquired his disability," Salter said.

Certain types of military and veterans pensions are either partially or completely tax-exempt, depending on the seriousness of the disability. In McCain's case, the exemption is 100%....

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-pension22apr22,1,6562984.story

Wow, I can't believe you are that stupid. He couldn't walk for months and it took him years to regain his strength back. His arms are permanently damaged from the torture he endured and his hair is white. I would say he deserves disability from the navy.

Wow, I can't believe you would assume I was talking about whether he deserves disability or not. I posted this article because it brings up a valid question on a potential president's health and whether he is fit to serve.

You are awfully defensive for what I consider a valid question.

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Tim,

... Not to mention his age and having developed melanoma... twice.

ecotopian's picture

Oh yeah, the story of men and their shrinking dorks in Congo. Go to this site http://www.thegreatestsilence.org/main.html It's a movie about the rape of the women of Congo. It's still going on and no one in the media is talking about it. Now go back and read that story and tell us where the humor is. I'm hoping it happens to more men in Congo. Maybe then this horror will stop.

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Japanese waterboarding is different because they give you a slice of ginger afterwards.

Seriously, there are about four common variations on waterboarding, but they're all waterboarding.

And I'm happy that college students continue to grill the Bushies.

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"John Ashcroft claims Japanese waterboarding is different from American waterboarding."

I WANT VIDEO! I have several people to whom I need to send this video.

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Rusty Shackleford @ 24:

galmud @ 22:

Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

diamondmc @ 4:
John Ashcroft thinks that students learn the difference between "pour" and "force" in anatomy class.

Is that quote from Ashcroft really accurate? It seems to stupid to be true.

I paraphrased. According to the at-Largely post, the actual quote goes like this:

ASHCROFT: (shouting) You hear that? You hear it? "Forced!" If you can't tell the difference between forcing and pouring...does this college have an anatomy class?

Yeah I read the quote. As Janet said above, of course its force even if you only(!?) pour water. You are forcing someone to drown but not enough to die aka "waterboarding" or "water torture". Ashcrofts justification seems too stupid to be true

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at-Largely: John Ashcroft claims Japanese waterboarding is different from American waterboarding.
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We pull out their fingernails with a gentle tugging motion: the Japanese violenly yanked them out.

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Rusty Shackleford @ 5:

diamondmc @ 4:

Well sure there is a differance between American and Japanese water boarding. The Japanese are godless heathens and America only does good christian water boarding.

John Ashcroft thinks that students learn the difference between "pour" and "force" in anatomy class.

That's a Missourah ed gu kashun for ya.

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