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C&L fan Richard Lewis (I saw him perform here in San Francisco a few weeks back and he actually plugged the site! Thanks, Richard :0)) on last night's Countdown discussing politics today. Richard's book The Other Great Depression is now out on paperback.

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xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

First in dissent.

bullfrog's picture

what's that orwell quote?

oh, yeah...

"in times of universal truth, lying's liable to land you up shit creek with a turd for a paddle."

did i get that right?!

Tequila's picture

The New York Pig Department gets away with another hate crime.
(They need to stop hiring made men...) Over 3,000 crack users will finally get the same sentences as (white) cocaine users. Bush is delusional
as usual. Pelosi believes a ticket with both Dem candidates is not feasible.

tyree's picture

you go girl clinton 08

Tequila's picture

High gas prices already killed one business.

bullfrog's picture

tyree @ 5:

you go girl clinton 08

yeah, straight to court vs. peter paul.

tyree's picture

bullfrog @ 7:

tyree @ 5:

you go girl clinton 08

yeah, straight to court vs. peter paul.

come on you can do better then that froggie!

odanny's picture

I like Richard Lewis. He's funny, he's frenetic, he's open about his problems, and hell, he's sober.

IWhen he was last on K.O.'s show he said "The last 7 years under Bush have been like the worst years of my life" and for alot of people thats the Gospel truth. No matter how great your day is you know your country is being fucked over and lots of innocent people somewhere are dying from this nations foreign policy.

Tequila's picture

Is China softening its approach to the Dalai Lama?

bullfrog's picture

tyree @ 8:

bullfrog @ 7:

tyree @ 5:

you go girl clinton 08

yeah, straight to court vs. peter paul.

come on you can do better then that froggie!

son, don't make me run a fibonacci sequence on yo' @$$.

mystic's picture

You know who the real true Democratic frontrunner is by who McCain perceives as his greater threat. So when McCain smears Obama by claiming that Hamas prefers
Obama, not Hillary, to be president, this essentially anoints Obama and delegates Hillary to the rubbish heap. In that sense he has done Obama a favour, all the mathematics aside. We also know this is the case because Obama has accepted Fox's challenge to an interview. I happen to think this is a huge mistake. Obama, while he can surely handle himself, is not as skillfully a bastard as Bill Clinton was/is,
and look at the scummy reptilian way Hillary has behaved in this campaign. We know that in this strangely self-destructive country, being decent and honest is
perceived as a weakness (read: Kerry, Gore). If you're reading this Barack, stay above the fray, and tell Fox you have a scheduling conflict. They'll plutz.

tyree's picture

bullfrog @ 11:

tyree @ 8:

bullfrog @ 7:

tyree @ 5:

yeah, straight to court vs. peter paul.

come on you can do better then that froggie!

son, don't make me run a fibonacci sequence on yo' @$$.

perhaps you can call me a whore or a bitch seems to be the them for the obamerians!!!!!

abarts's picture

Tequila~
who pays attention to *blink*blink* Pelosi *blink*blink*blink* anymore?

CD's picture

Already a Senator from Colorado is pissed at Limbaugh.

http://origin.denverpost.com/news/ci_9057199

mystic's picture

abarts @ 14:

Tequila~
who pays attention to *blink*blink* Pelosi *blink*blink*blink* anymore?

It's the Botox. And the face lift. Nancy is some plastic lady.

abarts's picture

mystic @ 12:

You know who the real true Democratic frontrunner is by who McCain perceives as his greater threat. So when McCain smears Obama by claiming that Hamas prefers
Obama, not Hillary, to be president, this essentially anoints Obama and delegates Hillary to the rubbish heap. In that sense he has done Obama a favour, all the mathematics aside. We also know this is the case because Obama has accepted Fox's challenge to an interview. I happen to think this is a huge mistake. Obama, while he can surely handle himself, is not as skillfully a bastard as Bill Clinton was/is,
and look at the scummy reptilian way Hillary has behaved in this campaign. We know that in this strangely self-destructive country, being decent and honest is
perceived as a weakness (read: Kerry, Gore). If you're reading this Barack, stay above the fray, and tell Fox you have a scheduling conflict. They'll plutz.

If you don't think Sen Obama can handle a TV INTERVIEW, he surely can't handle being President.

bullfrog's picture

tyree @ 13:

bullfrog @ 11:

tyree @ 8:

bullfrog @ 7:
come on you can do better then that froggie!

son, don't make me run a fibonacci sequence on yo' @$$.

perhaps you can call me a whore or a bitch seems to be the them for the obamerians!!!!!

i call you a proud indianan korean war hero.

mystic's picture

abarts @ 17:

mystic @ 12:

You know who the real true Democratic frontrunner is by who McCain perceives as his greater threat. So when McCain smears Obama by claiming that Hamas prefers
Obama, not Hillary, to be president, this essentially anoints Obama and delegates Hillary to the rubbish heap. In that sense he has done Obama a favour, all the mathematics aside. We also know this is the case because Obama has accepted Fox's challenge to an interview. I happen to think this is a huge mistake. Obama, while he can surely handle himself, is not as skillfully a bastard as Bill Clinton was/is,
and look at the scummy reptilian way Hillary has behaved in this campaign. We know that in this strangely self-destructive country, being decent and honest is
perceived as a weakness (read: Kerry, Gore). If you're reading this Barack, stay above the fray, and tell Fox you have a scheduling conflict. They'll plutz.

If you don't think Sen Obama can handle a TV INTERVIEW, he surely can't handle being President.

You don't get my point. Of course he CAN handle an interview, but I think -- with Fox anyway-- you need to be down and dirty and I'm not sure Barack has that scummy internal radar. I hope I'm wrong.

Powkat's picture

O.T but I linked a WA POST article from Huffpost and who should be commenting but everyone's (least) favorite troll, Jake D. Guess he's gotten thrown off so many sites all that's left is MSM blogs. Poor Jake.

tyree's picture

bullfrog @ 18:

tyree @ 13:

bullfrog @ 11:

tyree @ 8:

son, don't make me run a fibonacci sequence on yo' @$$.

perhaps you can call me a whore or a bitch seems to be the them for the obamerians!!!!!

i call you a proud indianan korean war hero.

thanks bull froggie!

bullfrog's picture

obama pulls his dilbert impersonation...

bullfrog's picture

tyree @ 21:

bullfrog @ 18:

tyree @ 13:

bullfrog @ 11:
perhaps you can call me a whore or a bitch seems to be the them for the obamerians!!!!!

i call you a proud indianan korean war hero.

thanks bull froggie!

and i hear you're a damn good shot!!

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

Powkat @ 20:

O.T but I linked a WA POST article from Huffpost and who should be commenting but everyone's (least) favorite troll, Jake D. Guess he's gotten thrown off so many sites all that's left is MSM blogs. Poor Jake.

This is the open thread. O.T. is the topic.

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

mystic @ 19:

abarts @ 17:

mystic @ 12:

You know who the real true Democratic frontrunner is by who McCain perceives as his greater threat. So when McCain smears Obama by claiming that Hamas prefers
Obama, not Hillary, to be president, this essentially anoints Obama and delegates Hillary to the rubbish heap. In that sense he has done Obama a favour, all the mathematics aside. We also know this is the case because Obama has accepted Fox's challenge to an interview. I happen to think this is a huge mistake. Obama, while he can surely handle himself, is not as skillfully a bastard as Bill Clinton was/is,
and look at the scummy reptilian way Hillary has behaved in this campaign. We know that in this strangely self-destructive country, being decent and honest is
perceived as a weakness (read: Kerry, Gore). If you're reading this Barack, stay above the fray, and tell Fox you have a scheduling conflict. They'll plutz.

If you don't think Sen Obama can handle a TV INTERVIEW, he surely can't handle being President.

You don't get my point. Of course he CAN handle an interview, but I think -- with Fox anyway-- you need to be down and dirty and I'm not sure Barack has that scummy internal radar. I hope I'm wrong.

You know what?

Maybe Obama will stun the nation as he makes these little men look as ridiculous as they are while being polite and straightforward.

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

bullfrog @ 22:

obama pulls his dilbert impersonation...

Oh, geeze! Now his tie is giving us the finger!

Powkat's picture

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 24:

Powkat @ 20:

O.T but I linked a WA POST article from Huffpost and who should be commenting but everyone's (least) favorite troll, Jake D. Guess he's gotten thrown off so many sites all that's left is MSM blogs. Poor Jake.

This is the open thread. O.T. is the topic.

Opps - it's late and I'm waiting for intermission. All I want to do is go home!

mystic's picture

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 25:

mystic @ 19:

abarts @ 17:

mystic @ 12:

If you don't think Sen Obama can handle a TV INTERVIEW, he surely can't handle being President.

You don't get my point. Of course he CAN handle an interview, but I think -- with Fox anyway-- you need to be down and dirty and I'm not sure Barack has that scummy internal radar. I hope I'm wrong.

You know what?

Maybe Obama will stun the nation as he makes these little men look as ridiculous as they are while being polite and straightforward.

Let's cross fingers. For me, this country is already in the abyss. I truly believe that only Obama has the true grit that can get us out otherwise we are doomed.

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

Anybody here know how to get blood out of a broad loom rug?

hoosierspud's picture

Am I the only person on earth who thinks that Richard Lewis isn't funny?

If I want that much angst, I'll go to a family reunion.

tyree's picture

bullfrog @ 23:

tyree @ 21:

bullfrog @ 18:

tyree @ 13:

i call you a proud indianan korean war hero.

thanks bull froggie!

and i hear you're a damn good shot!!

yeah if only the dead could talk , im sure your addept at firearms yourself! say if you ever watch saveing pvr ryan notice the guy who plays the snipers right thumb! in the movie hes useing a springfield 03 rifel bolt action, but in the movie his right thumbnails black, thats from him fireing an m1 gerand top loading semi automatic rifel and getting his thumb caught in the loading breach , did that in boot camp hurts so bad you piss your pants, just a bit of trivia , that and my eyebrow smoother!

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

hoosierspud @ 30:

Am I the only person on earth who thinks that Richard Lewis isn't funny?

Yes.

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

tyree @ 31:

bullfrog @ 23:

tyree @ 21:

bullfrog @ 18:
thanks bull froggie!

and i hear you're a damn good shot!!

yeah if only the dead could talk , im sure your addept at firearms yourself! say if you ever watch saveing pvr ryan notice the guy who plays the snipers right thumb! in the movie hes useing a springfield 03 rifel bolt action, but in the movie his right thumbnails black, thats from him fireing an m1 gerand top loading semi automatic rifel and getting his thumb caught in the loading breach , did that in boot camp hurts so bad you piss your pants, just a bit of trivia , that and my eyebrow smoother!

I still have a scope scar over my right eye.

tyree's picture

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 29:

Anybody here know how to get blood out of a broad loom rug?

i useually cut the spot out xo!

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tyree @ 31:

bullfrog @ 23:

tyree @ 21:

bullfrog @ 18:
thanks bull froggie!

and i hear you're a damn good shot!!

yeah if only the dead could talk , im sure your addept at firearms yourself! say if you ever watch saveing pvr ryan notice the guy who plays the snipers right thumb! in the movie hes useing a springfield 03 rifel bolt action, but in the movie his right thumbnails black, thats from him fireing an m1 gerand top loading semi automatic rifel and getting his thumb caught in the loading breach , did that in boot camp hurts so bad you piss your pants, just a bit of trivia , that and my eyebrow smoother!

ty, you oughta write a book before you leave this earth. your spelling and punctuation suck to high hell, but you've got a hell of a story...

shiloh's picture

Richard Lewis & his Magical Misery Tour too funny ~ dubya (8) years of misery, not so funny !@#$%^&*

Tequila's picture

Hillary continues to lie about another Obama vote.

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

tyree @ 34:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 29:

Anybody here know how to get blood out of a broad loom rug?

i useually cut the spot out xo!

And how exactly am i going to explain that?

tyree's picture

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 33:

tyree @ 31:

bullfrog @ 23:

tyree @ 21:

and i hear you're a damn good shot!!

yeah if only the dead could talk , im sure your addept at firearms yourself! say if you ever watch saveing pvr ryan notice the guy who plays the snipers right thumb! in the movie hes useing a springfield 03 rifel bolt action, but in the movie his right thumbnails black, thats from him fireing an m1 gerand top loading semi automatic rifel and getting his thumb caught in the loading breach , did that in boot camp hurts so bad you piss your pants, just a bit of trivia , that and my eyebrow smoother!

I still have a scope scar over my right eye.

keep that piece tight againt your shoulder soldier!!!!

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hoosierspud @ 30:

Am I the only person on earth who thinks that Richard Lewis isn't funny?

If I want that much angst, I'll go to a family reunion.

I have always thought he was funny, but I swear last night he seemed to be high on something, and I did NOT think he was funny. In fact he sort of made a fool of himself.

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bullfrog @ 35:

tyree @ 31:

bullfrog @ 23:

tyree @ 21:

and i hear you're a damn good shot!!

yeah if only the dead could talk , im sure your addept at firearms yourself! say if you ever watch saveing pvr ryan notice the guy who plays the snipers right thumb! in the movie hes useing a springfield 03 rifel bolt action, but in the movie his right thumbnails black, thats from him fireing an m1 gerand top loading semi automatic rifel and getting his thumb caught in the loading breach , did that in boot camp hurts so bad you piss your pants, just a bit of trivia , that and my eyebrow smoother!

ty, you oughta write a book before you leave this earth. your spelling and punctuation suck to high hell, but you've got a hell of a story...

started one long ago but got tired of writeing with a pen bull froggie , that was before i larned my pewter skills!!!!he he!

bullfrog's picture

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 26:

bullfrog @ 22:

obama pulls his dilbert impersonation...

Oh, geeze! Now his tie is giving us the finger!

jeremiah wright contacted them voodoo muslims via internets to make that satanic tie defy the natural laws of god...

mystic's picture

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 38:

tyree @ 34:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 29:

Anybody here know how to get blood out of a broad loom rug?

i useually cut the spot out xo!

And how exactly am i going to explain that?

If you desperate, and if the rug is light or mottled, try hydrogen peroxide but you WILL make that spot lighter.

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

tyree @ 39:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 33:

tyree @ 31:

bullfrog @ 23:
yeah if only the dead could talk , im sure your addept at firearms yourself! say if you ever watch saveing pvr ryan notice the guy who plays the snipers right thumb! in the movie hes useing a springfield 03 rifel bolt action, but in the movie his right thumbnails black, thats from him fireing an m1 gerand top loading semi automatic rifel and getting his thumb caught in the loading breach , did that in boot camp hurts so bad you piss your pants, just a bit of trivia , that and my eyebrow smoother!

I still have a scope scar over my right eye.

keep that piece tight againt your shoulder soldier!!!!

Well, i am not a soldier and the stock was tight against my shoulder. My face was too close to the scope. The "good" news is i hit a beer can at 300 yards.

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Don Davis @ 2:

Top 5 Suggestions for Obama to Cut Into Hillary’s Senior Vote

but, but, but I heard Wilfrid Brimley is supporting McBush lol

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tyree @ 41:

bullfrog @ 35:

tyree @ 31:

bullfrog @ 23:
yeah if only the dead could talk , im sure your addept at firearms yourself! say if you ever watch saveing pvr ryan notice the guy who plays the snipers right thumb! in the movie hes useing a springfield 03 rifel bolt action, but in the movie his right thumbnails black, thats from him fireing an m1 gerand top loading semi automatic rifel and getting his thumb caught in the loading breach , did that in boot camp hurts so bad you piss your pants, just a bit of trivia , that and my eyebrow smoother!

ty, you oughta write a book before you leave this earth. your spelling and punctuation suck to high hell, but you've got a hell of a story...

started one long ago but got tired of writeing with a pen bull froggie , that was before i larned my pewter skills!!!!he he!

i'm still learnin' my pooter skills, ty.

say, you don't think anyone else is reading this conversation, do you? privacy laws n' all, right?

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mystic @ 43:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 38:

tyree @ 34:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 29:
i useually cut the spot out xo!

And how exactly am i going to explain that?

If you desperate, and if the rug is light or mottled, try hydrogen peroxide but you WILL make that spot lighter.

P.S. Did say first get rid of the body?

tyree's picture

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 38:

tyree @ 34:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 29:

Anybody here know how to get blood out of a broad loom rug?

i useually cut the spot out xo!

And how exactly am i going to explain that?

rug bugs ate it , works with my wife and shes got college!

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bullfrog @ 46:

tyree @ 41:

bullfrog @ 35:

tyree @ 31:

ty, you oughta write a book before you leave this earth. your spelling and punctuation suck to high hell, but you've got a hell of a story...

started one long ago but got tired of writeing with a pen bull froggie , that was before i larned my pewter skills!!!!he he!

i'm still learnin' my pooter skills, ty.

say, you don't think anyone else is reading this conversation, do you? privacy laws n' all, right?

Nope.

Stranded's picture

AT&T sowing the seeds against net neutrality:
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/90339

ezpz's picture

If anyone missed the Wright interview with Moyers:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html

The guy is brilliant, full of love, wisdom and compassion.
I was moved to tears listening to him. He has helped and continues to do so much good for so many.
He does not preach the hate that the media tried to sell us.
He teaches/preaches LOVE.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

mystic @ 47:

mystic @ 43:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 38:

tyree @ 34:

And how exactly am i going to explain that?

If you desperate, and if the rug is light or mottled, try hydrogen peroxide but you WILL make that spot lighter.

P.S. Did say first get rid of the body?

I am trying to plan out my weekend.

mystic's picture

ezpz @ 50:

If anyone missed the Wright interview with Moyers:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html

The guy is brilliant, full of love, wisdom and compassion.
I was moved to tears listening to him. He has helped and continues to do so much good for so many.
He does not preach the hate that the media tried to sell us.
He teaches/preaches LOVE.

Amen.

tyree's picture

mystic @ 47:

mystic @ 43:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 38:

tyree @ 34:

And how exactly am i going to explain that?

If you desperate, and if the rug is light or mottled, try hydrogen peroxide but you WILL make that spot lighter.

P.S. Did say first get rid of the body?

he he!

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NSA @ 49:

bullfrog @ 46:

tyree @ 41:

bullfrog @ 35:
started one long ago but got tired of writeing with a pen bull froggie , that was before i larned my pewter skills!!!!he he!

i'm still learnin' my pooter skills, ty.

say, you don't think anyone else is reading this conversation, do you? privacy laws n' all, right?

Nope.

so, everything i write's just between me, ty, god and the nsa... no?

and maybe some aliens?

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

There is a guy who decided to take on the telemarketers a few years ago. When one called him up one night he said, "Oh! I am so glad you called! Do you know how to get blood out of a broad loom rug? There is just so much of it!"

The Sherriff stopped by later but the telemarketer never called back.

Later he got caller ID and he would get the name of the telemarketers who called him and call them back.

Just to talk.

tyree's picture

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 44:

tyree @ 39:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 33:

tyree @ 31:

I still have a scope scar over my right eye.

keep that piece tight againt your shoulder soldier!!!!

Well, i am not a soldier and the stock was tight against my shoulder. My face was too close to the scope. The "good" news is i hit a beer can at 300 yards.

xo thats the second mistake you can make with a scoped rifel!!!!!!guess you got a shiner from the lesson!

bullfrog's picture

mystic @ 52:

ezpz @ 50:

If anyone missed the Wright interview with Moyers:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html

The guy is brilliant, full of love, wisdom and compassion.
I was moved to tears listening to him. He has helped and continues to do so much good for so many.
He does not preach the hate that the media tried to sell us.
He teaches/preaches LOVE.

Amen.

i freely admit i like jeremiah wright. i can't wait for the fight with john hagee, i've been training my whole life for it.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

tyree @ 56:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 44:

tyree @ 39:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 33:
keep that piece tight againt your shoulder soldier!!!!

Well, i am not a soldier and the stock was tight against my shoulder. My face was too close to the scope. The "good" news is i hit a beer can at 300 yards.

xo thats the second mistake you can make with a scoped rifel!!!!!!guess you got a shiner from the lesson!

No, no bruise. Just i finely stamped arc cut right into my skin. Layed me out too.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

I was firing from a sitting position with my elbows on my knees.

tyree's picture

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 58:

tyree @ 56:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 44:

tyree @ 39:

Well, i am not a soldier and the stock was tight against my shoulder. My face was too close to the scope. The "good" news is i hit a beer can at 300 yards.

xo thats the second mistake you can make with a scoped rifel!!!!!!guess you got a shiner from the lesson!

No, no bruise. Just i finely stamped arc cut right into my skin. Layed me out too.

never like a scope i prefer kentucky windage!

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tyree @ 60:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 58:

tyree @ 56:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 44:
xo thats the second mistake you can make with a scoped rifel!!!!!!guess you got a shiner from the lesson!

No, no bruise. Just i finely stamped arc cut right into my skin. Layed me out too.

never like a scope i prefer kentucky windage!

That was the first time i ever used a scope and the last time i ever fired a weapon. I was 18.

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bullfrog @ 57:

mystic @ 52:

ezpz @ 50:

If anyone missed the Wright interview with Moyers:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html

The guy is brilliant, full of love, wisdom and compassion.
I was moved to tears listening to him. He has helped and continues to do so much good for so many.
He does not preach the hate that the media tried to sell us.
He teaches/preaches LOVE.

Amen.

i freely admit i like jeremiah wright. i can't wait for the fight with john hagee, i've been training my whole life for it.

I am an atheist, born Jewish, so I am no expert on Christianity, but to me Wright exemplifies what a true Christian is. (Alonh with someone else we all know who pretends to be Christian).And Hagee has to be the anti-Christ. Hope you've girded your loins for the fight, cause he is evil incarnate. By the way that's no reflection of your loins.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

mystic @ 62:

bullfrog @ 57:

mystic @ 52:

ezpz @ 50:
Amen.

i freely admit i like jeremiah wright. i can't wait for the fight with john hagee, i've been training my whole life for it.

I am an atheist, born Jewish, so I am no expert on Christianity, but to me Wright exemplifies what a true Christian is. (Alonh with someone else we all know who pretends to be Christian).And Hagee has to be the anti-Christ. Hope you've girded your loins for the fight, cause he is evil incarnate. By the way that's no reflection of your loins.

I was raised a Catholic, then i decided to be a "Christian."

Then i realized Christ was the last Christian so my best shot was to try to be a Christian.

Then i realized that in order to try to be a Christian i needed to get Cruxified.

Later i not only realized Christ probably never existed but also that God did not exist either.

But i do believe there are good Christians out there. They just don't have televised ministries.

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xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 44:

tyree @ 39:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 33:

tyree @ 31:

I still have a scope scar over my right eye.

keep that piece tight againt your shoulder soldier!!!!

Well, i am not a soldier and the stock was tight against my shoulder. My face was too close to the scope. The "good" news is i hit a beer can at 300 yards.

could you hit mad king george of england from 350, that is the question..?!

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mystic @ 62:

bullfrog @ 57:

mystic @ 52:

ezpz @ 50:
Amen.

i freely admit i like jeremiah wright. i can't wait for the fight with john hagee, i've been training my whole life for it.

I am an atheist, born Jewish, so I am no expert on Christianity, but to me Wright exemplifies what a true Christian is. (Alonh with someone else we all know who pretends to be Christian).And Hagee has to be the anti-Christ. Hope you've girded your loins for the fight, cause he is evil incarnate. By the way that's no reflection of your loins.

yeah hagee reminds me of pork on the hoof

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xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 63:

mystic @ 62:

bullfrog @ 57:

mystic @ 52:

i freely admit i like jeremiah wright. i can't wait for the fight with john hagee, i've been training my whole life for it.

I am an atheist, born Jewish, so I am no expert on Christianity, but to me Wright exemplifies what a true Christian is. (Alonh with someone else we all know who pretends to be Christian).And Hagee has to be the anti-Christ. Hope you've girded your loins for the fight, cause he is evil incarnate. By the way that's no reflection of your loins.

I was raised a Catholic, then i decided to be a "Christian."

Then i realized Christ was the last Christian so my best shot was to try to be a Christian.

Then i realized that in order to try to be a Christian i needed to get Cruxified.

Later i not only realized Christ probably never existed but also that God did not exist either.

But i do believe there are good Christians out there. They just don't have televised ministries.

well i hope you'll find me one.

it's like john lennon said, true christianity's never been implemented in any society.

so we really don't know if it would fail.

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mystic @ 62:

bullfrog @ 57:

mystic @ 52:

ezpz @ 50:
Amen.

i freely admit i like jeremiah wright. i can't wait for the fight with john hagee, i've been training my whole life for it.

I am an atheist, born Jewish, so I am no expert on Christianity, but to me Wright exemplifies what a true Christian is. (Alonh with someone else we all know who pretends to be Christian).And Hagee has to be the anti-Christ. Hope you've girded your loins for the fight, cause he is evil incarnate. By the way that's no reflection of your loins.

I agree. Rev Wright lives devotes himself according to WWJD.
The comments on Bill Moyers blog are very positive overall.

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/blog/2008/04/the_controversy_over_wrig...

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I saw him, but I had to turn it off. It was too over the top. I dunno, maybe it was just me.

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bullfrog @ 65:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 44:

tyree @ 39:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 33:
keep that piece tight againt your shoulder soldier!!!!

Well, i am not a soldier and the stock was tight against my shoulder. My face was too close to the scope. The "good" news is i hit a beer can at 300 yards.

could you hit mad king george of england from 350, that is the question..?!

The answer is that the reason i stopped firing weapons at age 18 is because i became a pacifist.

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xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 70:

bullfrog @ 65:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 44:

tyree @ 39:

Well, i am not a soldier and the stock was tight against my shoulder. My face was too close to the scope. The "good" news is i hit a beer can at 300 yards.

could you hit mad king george of england from 350, that is the question..?!

The answer is that the reason i stopped firing weapons at age 18 is because i became a pacifist.

xo tin cans dont die, nothing barbaric about picking them off the fence!

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Hey folks! Remember that totally awesome Half-billion dollar Embassy we built in Iraq??? Well, it's back in the news again. Apparently, when the neo-con's answer to the Taj Mahal was built they kinda - how can I put this?? - they kinda, sorta didn't build enough apartments for the State Department employees who are going to be stationed there. Oh, but the State Department is on it! It's looking into buying ADDITIONAL TRAILERS for the employees (I hear FEMA has a shitload, but I digress). Now, I don't know about you but, I get the impression that trailers aren't going to hold up very well against little things like, you know, mortar attacks??? Here's the link:

http://tinyurl.com/46ml8j

How much more fucking up can one take?? Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go and bang my head on my desk - very therapeutic.

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xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 29:

Anybody here know how to get blood out of a broad loom rug?

If you can soak the rug in water...guess it depends on how big the rug is

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hoosierspud @ 30:

Am I the only person on earth who thinks that Richard Lewis isn't funny?

If I want that much angst, I'll go to a family reunion.

He irritates the crap out of me, to be honest. It's not his angst - I've seen angst executed exquisitely a million times. It's his frantic, drunken ranting, the general lack of jokes (unless you count the admittedly-petulant rantings), etcetera. I guess, to me, he seems like an unmedicated bipolar individual and that's more awkward than hilarious.

Oh well!

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bullfrog @ 67:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 63:

mystic @ 62:

bullfrog @ 57:

I am an atheist, born Jewish, so I am no expert on Christianity, but to me Wright exemplifies what a true Christian is. (Alonh with someone else we all know who pretends to be Christian).And Hagee has to be the anti-Christ. Hope you've girded your loins for the fight, cause he is evil incarnate. By the way that's no reflection of your loins.

I was raised a Catholic, then i decided to be a "Christian."

Then i realized Christ was the last Christian so my best shot was to try to be a Christian.

Then i realized that in order to try to be a Christian i needed to get Cruxified.

Later i not only realized Christ probably never existed but also that God did not exist either.

But i do believe there are good Christians out there. They just don't have televised ministries.

well i hope you'll find me one.

it's like john lennon said, true christianity's never been implemented in any society.

so we really don't know if it would fail.

Christ's message was very simple: Do unto others..That can only fail if the message is exploited and abused in the name of Christianity. Hence Iraq.

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bullfrog @ 67:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 63:

mystic @ 62:

bullfrog @ 57:

I am an atheist, born Jewish, so I am no expert on Christianity, but to me Wright exemplifies what a true Christian is. (Alonh with someone else we all know who pretends to be Christian).And Hagee has to be the anti-Christ. Hope you've girded your loins for the fight, cause he is evil incarnate. By the way that's no reflection of your loins.

I was raised a Catholic, then i decided to be a "Christian."

Then i realized Christ was the last Christian so my best shot was to try to be a Christian.

Then i realized that in order to try to be a Christian i needed to get Cruxified.

Later i not only realized Christ probably never existed but also that God did not exist either.

But i do believe there are good Christians out there. They just don't have televised ministries.

well i hope you'll find me one.

it's like john lennon said, true christianity's never been implemented in any society.

so we really don't know if it would fail.

John Lennon also posited that a world without religion would be an amazing one indeed.

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geneHUSSEIN214 @ 72:

Hey folks! Remember that totally awesome Half-billion dollar Embassy we built in Iraq??? Well, it's back in the news again. Apparently, when the neo-con's answer to the Taj Mahal was built they kinda - how can I put this?? - they kinda, sorta didn't build enough apartments for the State Department employees who are going to be stationed there. Oh, but the State Department is on it! It's looking into buying ADDITIONAL TRAILERS for the employees (I hear FEMA has a shitload, but I digress). Now, I don't know about you but, I get the impression that trailers aren't going to hold up very well against little things like, you know, mortar attacks??? Here's the link:

http://tinyurl.com/46ml8j

How much more fucking up can one take?? Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go and bang my head on my desk - very therapeutic.

just a little glitch in the planning im sure the formadihyde in the trailors will only inhace the storys the servivors have to tell if they make it back!

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enhance damit!

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Meat @ 76:

bullfrog @ 67:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 63:

mystic @ 62:

I was raised a Catholic, then i decided to be a "Christian."

Then i realized Christ was the last Christian so my best shot was to try to be a Christian.

Then i realized that in order to try to be a Christian i needed to get Cruxified.

Later i not only realized Christ probably never existed but also that God did not exist either.

But i do believe there are good Christians out there. They just don't have televised ministries.

well i hope you'll find me one.

it's like john lennon said, true christianity's never been implemented in any society.

so we really don't know if it would fail.

John Lennon also posited that a world without religion would be an amazing one indeed.

yes, often contradictory within one life. do you know anyone who isn't?

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mystic @ 75:

bullfrog @ 67:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 63:

mystic @ 62:

I was raised a Catholic, then i decided to be a "Christian."

Then i realized Christ was the last Christian so my best shot was to try to be a Christian.

Then i realized that in order to try to be a Christian i needed to get Cruxified.

Later i not only realized Christ probably never existed but also that God did not exist either.

But i do believe there are good Christians out there. They just don't have televised ministries.

well i hope you'll find me one.

it's like john lennon said, true christianity's never been implemented in any society.

so we really don't know if it would fail.

Christ's message was very simple: Do unto others..That can only fail if the message is exploited and abused in the name of Christianity. Hence Iraq.

To be a Christian you don't have to belong to organized religion. You are better off if you don't.

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tyree @ 71:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 70:

bullfrog @ 65:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 44:

could you hit mad king george of england from 350, that is the question..?!

The answer is that the reason i stopped firing weapons at age 18 is because i became a pacifist.

xo tin cans dont die, nothing barbaric about picking them off the fence!

Depends on what is beyond the fence.

Besides, if i am no going to ski what would i need skis for?

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xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 81:

tyree @ 71:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 70:

bullfrog @ 65:
The revolution will not be televised
The answer is that the reason i stopped firing weapons at age 18 is because i became a pacifist.

xo tin cans dont die, nothing barbaric about picking them off the fence!

Depends on what is beyond the fence.

Besides, if i am no going to ski what would i need skis for?

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Ron @ 80:

mystic @ 75:

bullfrog @ 67:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 63:

well i hope you'll find me one.

it's like john lennon said, true christianity's never been implemented in any society.

so we really don't know if it would fail.

Christ's message was very simple: Do unto others..That can only fail if the message is exploited and abused in the name of Christianity. Hence Iraq.

To be a Christian you don't have to belong to organized religion. You are better off if you don't.

i never go to church. i trust my own judgment over any pastor, even god's chosen prophet, "nuke 'em" hagee.

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the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

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god gave us free will for a reason, a damn good reason: when lunatics like david koresh or john hagee try to lead us over a cliff, we can call them on their bull$#!+.

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tyree @ 83:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

ty, i don't know for sure about all that, i just like the part where jesus smacked down the entire roman empire...

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bullfrog @ 84:

god gave us free will for a reason, a damn good reason: when lunatics like david koresh or john hagee try to lead us over a cliff, we can call them on their bull$#!+.

God did not give me anything. Man gave us God.

As Stephen Wright says, "The New Testament is 2000 years old. Shouldn't it be 'The Old Testament' and 'The More Recent Testament?'"

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bullfrog @ 85:

tyree @ 83:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

ty, i don't know for sure about all that, i just like the part where jesus smacked down the entire roman empire...

but but wasnt it the jews who condemned jesus when harrod asked the jews weather they wanted to free jesus or would they prefer that barabas go free instead and they screemed give us barabas, where have i gone wrong!

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64 xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution Says: mystic @ 62:

bullfrog @ 57:

mystic @ 52:

ezpz @ 50:

Later i not only realized Christ probably never existed but also that God did not exist either.

But i do believe there are good Christians out there. They just don’t have televised ministries.
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My sibs and I dropped out of church when I was about 9 years old. My parents didn't seem serious about it (they stayed home), so we put an ultimatum to them, "Either you come with us, or we quit." The whole family quit that day. We tired of the charade.

Anyone who preaches love is OK with me, Christian or not: Xians haven't cornered the market on love, much as they think they have. I do believe Jesus existed. He was a man who preached love (a lot).

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tyree @ 88:

bullfrog @ 85:

tyree @ 83:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

ty, i don't know for sure about all that, i just like the part where jesus smacked down the entire roman empire...

but but wasnt it the jews who condemned jesus when harrod asked the jews weather they wanted to free jesus or would they prefer that barabas go free instead and they screemed give us barabas, where have i gone wrong!

My understanding of the story is that what is glossed over the most is why Jesus was Crucified. When he expelled the money changers from the temple he pissed off Rome. The High Priests, who were Jewish, held high political office only as long as Rome tolerated what went on in Jeruselum.

Jesus was a problem.

So the High Priests brought in Rupert Murdock and Fox News made him out to be a terrorist and the rest is history.

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I haven't seen anything that shows me that any of you know much about what the Bible tells us. Try reading it.

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xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 90:

tyree @ 88:

bullfrog @ 85:

tyree @ 83:

ty, i don't know for sure about all that, i just like the part where jesus smacked down the entire roman empire...

but but wasnt it the jews who condemned jesus when harrod asked the jews weather they wanted to free jesus or would they prefer that barabas go free instead and they screemed give us barabas, where have i gone wrong!

My understanding of the story is that what is glossed over the most is why Jesus was Crucified. When he expelled the money changers from the temple he pissed off Rome. The High Priests, who were Jewish, held high political office only as long as Rome tolerated what went on in Jeruselum.

Jesus was a problem.

So the High Priests brought in Rupert Murdock and Fox News made him out to be a terrorist and the rest is history.

he he!

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xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 90:

tyree @ 88:

bullfrog @ 85:

tyree @ 83:

ty, i don't know for sure about all that, i just like the part where jesus smacked down the entire roman empire...

but but wasnt it the jews who condemned jesus when harrod asked the jews weather they wanted to free jesus or would they prefer that barabas go free instead and they screemed give us barabas, where have i gone wrong!

My understanding of the story is that what is glossed over the most is why Jesus was Crucified. When he expelled the money changers from the temple he pissed off Rome. The High Priests, who were Jewish, held high political office only as long as Rome tolerated what went on in Jeruselum.

Jesus was a problem.

So the High Priests brought in Rupert Murdock and Fox News made him out to be a terrorist and the rest is history.

Close, and the analogy is perfect.

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Ron @ 91:

I haven't seen anything that shows me that any of you know much about what the Bible tells us. Try reading it.

i have and eerything i said is written there

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tyree @ 94:

Ron @ 91:

I haven't seen anything that shows me that any of you know much about what the Bible tells us. Try reading it.

i have and eerything i said is written there

And It was the propagandists (Faux News) that brought things to a disaster.

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Ron @ 95:

tyree @ 94:

Ron @ 91:

I haven't seen anything that shows me that any of you know much about what the Bible tells us. Try reading it.

i have and eerything i said is written there

And It was the propagandists (Faux News) that brought things to a disaster.

now there you go!!!!!!!!!!!

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ever handed someone a stick o' dynamite w/ wicks burning at both ends?

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Ron @ 95:

tyree @ 94:

Ron @ 91:

I haven't seen anything that shows me that any of you know much about what the Bible tells us. Try reading it.

i have and eerything i said is written there

And It was the propagandists (Faux News) that brought things to a disaster.

On the other hand (assuming Jesus existed) if they had not crucified him there would be no Christian Faith.

That is what i can't reconcile. As Tyree intimated, if Christ was the Son of God then Christ and God plotted Christ's death which violates the Ten Commandments.

In which case God is a hypocrit.

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88 tyree Says: bullfrog @ 85:

tyree @ 83:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

ty, i don’t know for sure about all that, i just like the part where jesus smacked down the entire roman empire…

but but wasnt it the jews who condemned jesus when harrod asked the jews weather they wanted to free jesus or would they prefer that barabas go free instead and they screemed give us barabas, where have i gone wrong!
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I dunno. But, I feel certain, if Hansel and Gretel has used anything, but breadcrumbs, they would have escaped the witch's pot. Sometimes, "life" is just like that. Who knows what the writers of all these stories had in mind?

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Ron @ 93:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 90:

tyree @ 88:

bullfrog @ 85:
but but wasnt it the jews who condemned jesus when harrod asked the jews weather they wanted to free jesus or would they prefer that barabas go free instead and they screemed give us barabas, where have i gone wrong!

My understanding of the story is that what is glossed over the most is why Jesus was Crucified. When he expelled the money changers from the temple he pissed off Rome. The High Priests, who were Jewish, held high political office only as long as Rome tolerated what went on in Jeruselum.

Jesus was a problem.

So the High Priests brought in Rupert Murdock and Fox News made him out to be a terrorist and the rest is history.

Close, and the analogy is perfect.

there are a lot of really, really good jews out there trying to fix $#!+ for the better...

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bullfrog @ 97:

ever handed someone a stick o' dynamite w/ wicks burning at both ends?

once picked up a chinese grenade with pins on both ends froggie!

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If Jesus were alive today, the GOP would have him swinging from a tree.

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bitter Edwin Hussein @ 99:

88 tyree Says: bullfrog @ 85:

tyree @ 83:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

ty, i don’t know for sure about all that, i just like the part where jesus smacked down the entire roman empire…

but but wasnt it the jews who condemned jesus when harrod asked the jews weather they wanted to free jesus or would they prefer that barabas go free instead and they screemed give us barabas, where have i gone wrong!
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I dunno. But, I feel certain, if Hansel and Gretel has used anything, but breadcrumbs, they would have escaped the witch's pot. Sometimes, "life" is just like that. Who knows what the writers of all these stories had in mind?

true

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tyree @ 84:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

Judas betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver, then the priests scorned him for being a snitch. He then realized that being a snitch was not the way to go because they treated with scorn, so he hung himsrlf.

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bullfrog @ 100:

Ron @ 93:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 90:

tyree @ 88:

My understanding of the story is that what is glossed over the most is why Jesus was Crucified. When he expelled the money changers from the temple he pissed off Rome. The High Priests, who were Jewish, held high political office only as long as Rome tolerated what went on in Jeruselum.

Jesus was a problem.

So the High Priests brought in Rupert Murdock and Fox News made him out to be a terrorist and the rest is history.

Close, and the analogy is perfect.

there are a lot of really, really good jews out there trying to fix $#!+ for the better...

There are a lot of good people everywhere trying to do the right thing. The thing is that they are not organized or focused and are up against powerful corporations who say blithely, "Our job is to make a profit."

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bitter Edwin Hussein @ 102:

If Jesus were alive today, the GOP would have him swinging from a tree.

No. They wouldn't. They would obliterate him in the media and make him look like a dangerous fool.

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xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 98:

Ron @ 95:

tyree @ 94:

Ron @ 91:
i have and eerything i said is written there

And It was the propagandists (Faux News) that brought things to a disaster.

On the other hand (assuming Jesus existed) if they had not crucified him there would be no Christian Faith.

That is what i can't reconcile. As Tyree intimated, if Christ was the Son of God then Christ and God plotted Christ's death which violates the Ten Commandments.

In which case God is a hypocrit.

You should read it again. That was not a plan

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Jeremiah Wright on Bill Moyers.

I am a white atheist male, 10 days older than McCain [shut up].

If I replace all references to anything theological or god that the reverend said, with the words reason and common sense, I agree with the man 100%.

The problem here are republicans who are grasping for straws to get a republican elected. I have come to the conclusion that republicans willfully or through ignorance misrepresent statements. It was very clear that the reverend was not talking about the country or its people that should be damned , he was talking about the people in power. Why else would he have mentioned Roman, British, Russian, Japanese and German governments who have all failed, then added America.

The problem here is Fox - specifically Hannity - who preaches this hateful mantra for an entire hour every day. Hannity is also despicable and repulsive in that someone who is a liar, a hater, a bigot, a racist and more has the unmitigated gall and talk about someone else's character and honesty.

One needs only look at what happened to John Kerry, whom they accused of having accused soldiers of having committed atrocoties, when he testified in Congress about was was told him. He never accused anyone.

Another thing comes to mind is that republicans must be genetically flawed. I have yet to meet one who has the capacity to see the other side, even sides, of an issue. They don't understand that two people within a few yard of each other see things differently. The one standing outside of the house looking in through a picture window sees something totally different than another standing inside looking out.

I think Democrats must gear up and build a machine that is just as vile and vicious as their machine, except I would like to see the Democratic machine stick to the verifiable truth. They must be ready to respond quickly and decisively.

More later

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ezpz @ 51:

If anyone missed the Wright interview with Moyers:

http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/watch.html

The guy is brilliant, full of love, wisdom and compassion.
I was moved to tears listening to him. He has helped and continues to do so much good for so many.
He does not preach the hate that the media tried to sell us.
He teaches/preaches LOVE.

Thanx, as I was watching was thinkin' how much better off America would have been if Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. had been president the past (8) years :) God would have been blessing America! ... instead of (8) years of dubya, knowing God most assuredly has been damning America! :(

The truth will set you free!

'nuf said

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Ron @ 104:

tyree @ 84:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

Judas betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver, then the priests scorned him for being a snitch. He then realized that being a snitch was not the way to go because they treated with scorn, so he hung himsrlf.

so then he wasnt smart enough to see jesus knew he would snitch and that if jesus knew he would snitch that god had picked him to snitch and that god was was responsible for his snitching!!!! ahah i see it all now!!!! hitting the sack keep your powder dry night!

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I wll admit, amidst my often angry-at-America-ranting, most Americans do seem to have a core goodness about them. I think it's sad to see so many just can't be bothered paying proper attention to what's really going on. It's not just apathy, it's also being incurious. And, yes, these corporations are organized, have money, and are controlling the message.

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ronhohn @ 108:

Jeremiah Wright on Bill Moyers.

I am a white atheist male, 10 days older than McCain [shut up].

If I replace all references to anything theological or god that the reverend said, with the words reason and common sense, I agree with the man 100%.

The problem here are republicans who are grasping for straws to get a republican elected. I have come to the conclusion that republicans willfully or through ignorance misrepresent statements. It was very clear that the reverend was not talking about the country or its people that should be damned , he was talking about the people in power. Why else would he have mentioned Roman, British, Russian, Japanese and German governments who have all failed, then added America.

The problem here is Fox - specifically Hannity - who preaches this hateful mantra for an entire hour every day. Hannity is also despicable and repulsive in that someone who is a liar, a hater, a bigot, a racist and more has the unmitigated gall and talk about someone else's character and honesty.

One needs only look at what happened to John Kerry, whom they accused of having accused soldiers of having committed atrocoties, when he testified in Congress about was was told him. He never accused anyone.

Another thing comes to mind is that republicans must be genetically flawed. I have yet to meet one who has the capacity to see the other side, even sides, of an issue. They don't understand that two people within a few yard of each other see things differently. The one standing outside of the house looking in through a picture window sees something totally different than another standing inside looking out.

I think Democrats must gear up and build a machine that is just as vile and vicious as their machine, except I would like to see the Democratic machine stick to the verifiable truth. They must be ready to respond quickly and decisively.

More later

I agree with everything you say until your last paragraph and then you lost me.

I can not and will not agree that the way to fight hate is to become hateful.

Joe Tseng's picture

Not to pick on Richard Lewis but can't Keith get a left wing comedian who's funnier than him? That guy's worse than Dennis Miller. Never finishes a sentence and you can't understand what the hell he's talking about most of the time.

piminnowcheez's picture

Wow, he's drunk. If it's not obvious from his own behavior, watch Olberman's reaction to him; instinctively making distance.

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"If you choke a smurf, what color do they turn?"

"I went to the 7/11 the other day. The sign said OPEN 24 HOURS. The manager was closing up. I said, Hey. The sign says you're open 24 hours. He said, not in a row."

S. Wright

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110 tyree Says: Ron @ 104:

tyree @ 84:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

Judas betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver, then the priests scorned him for being a snitch. He then realized that being a snitch was not the way to go because they treated with scorn, so he hung himsrlf.
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Bush sold out America for (a little bit more than) 30 pieces of silver, and we scorn him, but I doubt he'll hang himself. If he were a good Christian, it follows...

Brad's picture

New Testament is Hellenic mystery cult secrets (astrology stories) dressed up in faked Jewish traditions and trotted out as actual events for wrong purposes.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

piminnowcheez @ 114:

Wow, he's drunk. If it's not obvious from his own behavior, watch Olberman's reaction to him; instinctively making distance.

I saw that on Kieth yesterday. I saw him on Kieth a few weeks ago too. A few weeks ago every other sentence was about how long he had been sober. He never mentioned it yesterday.

On the other hand he was more coherent yesterday than he was a few weeks ago. He was all over the place like a madman on speed. He would start a sentence, interupt himself and start another sentence in the middle and then say the end of yet another sentence. It made for an interesting collage.

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bitter Edwin Hussein @ 116:

110 tyree Says: Ron @ 104:

tyree @ 84:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

Judas betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver, then the priests scorned him for being a snitch. He then realized that being a snitch was not the way to go because they treated with scorn, so he hung himsrlf.
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Bush sold out America for (a little bit more than) 30 pieces of silver, and we scorn him, but I doubt he'll hang himself. If he were a good Christian, it follows...

We can hope that he spends the rest of his life in prison. That way he has to suffer.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

Ron @ 119:

bitter Edwin Hussein @ 116:

110 tyree Says: Ron @ 104:

tyree @ 84:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

Judas betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver, then the priests scorned him for being a snitch. He then realized that being a snitch was not the way to go because they treated with scorn, so he hung himsrlf.
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Bush sold out America for (a little bit more than) 30 pieces of silver, and we scorn him, but I doubt he'll hang himself. If he were a good Christian, it follows...

We can hope that he spends the rest of his life in prison. That way he has to suffer.

And that will help who how?

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

Is that ultimately the best we can hope for out of this disaster is revenge?

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tyree @ 110:

Ron @ 104:

tyree @ 84:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

Judas betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver, then the priests scorned him for being a snitch. He then realized that being a snitch was not the way to go because they treated with scorn, so he hung himsrlf.

so then he wasnt smart enough to see jesus knew he would snitch and that if jesus knew he would snitch that god had picked him to snitch and that god was was responsible for his snitching!!!! ahah i see it all now!!!! hitting the sack keep your powder dry night!

And Jesus said: "Father, why have you forsaken me?".
Sound like he found himself a bit betrayed by his Godfather. He certainly didn't expect all of this. Which is not in line with his last supper statements.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

If so, count me out. I am not interested. It serves nothing and nobody.

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Not exactly hateful - what I want to see is Hagee, the 100 year occupation, the flip flops, the ignorant economic statements, his love for more wars and all the other junk hammered home until the MSM picks it up. I know KO would pick it up, so would Dan Abrams - I think, but who else? This should be made part of the Democratic machine, because we don't get the exposure they do. Why else would 33% still believe Obama is a muslim? We need guests to get on Fox who don't wimp out. Be as firm as Bill Clinto was opposing Chris Wallace.

I don't want to see 'hate', I want to see 'truth'

Ron's picture

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 120:

Ron @ 119:

bitter Edwin Hussein @ 116:

110 tyree Says: Ron @ 104:

tyree @ 84:

the bible doesnt make much sence to me! take the last supper jesus says one of you will betray me to his deciples, then judas does exactly that, then judas after jesuses death is condemned by everyone , then judas hangs hiself, my queston is why did he hang hiself wasnt it gods will that jesus die on a cross wasnt it gods plan for judas to betray jesus????? answer me dam you!

Judas betrayed him for 30 pieces of silver, then the priests scorned him for being a snitch. He then realized that being a snitch was not the way to go because they treated with scorn, so he hung himsrlf.
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Bush sold out America for (a little bit more than) 30 pieces of silver, and we scorn him, but I doubt he'll hang himself. If he were a good Christian, it follows...

We can hope that he spends the rest of his life in prison. That way he has to suffer.

And that will help who how?

Me, just if I would know that people like that don't get away with what he has done. It's only in my dreams. I don't expect it to happen and it would give us a reason to use the prisons that exist.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

ronhohn @ 124:

Not exactly hateful - what I want to see is Hagee, the 100 year occupation, the flip flops, the ignorant economic statements, his love for more wars and all the other junk hammered home until the MSM picks it up. I know KO would pick it up, so would Dan Abrams - I think, but who else? This should be made part of the Democratic machine, because we don't get the exposure they do. Why else would 33% still believe Obama is a muslim? We need guests to get on Fox who don't wimp out. Be as firm as Bill Clinto was opposing Chris Wallace.

I don't want to see 'hate', I want to see 'truth'

Then please say so and don't suggest we get vile and ugly. We need to get organized and serious instead.

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Please take a minute to read this excellent article.

http://www.williampfaff.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=308

Here is an excerpt, to whet your appetite:

by: William Pfaff (© Copyright by Tribune Media Services International. All Rights Reserved.)

Irresponsibility, individual careerism or cowardice, or ignorance on the part of those of us who belong to the media, undoubtedly contributes to this darkened national intelligence or consciousness.

The overall cause of self-suppression of public discussion of certain issues and the self-censorship by politicians, officials, “public intellectuals” and press, is a consensus that now exists among officials, politicians, publishers, media corporations and journalists that it is impolitic to recognize certain realities.

This is true even when national security, as such, is not involved. The nation has a certain image of itself. It is unprofitable to raise the possibility that this is not a true image.

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ronhohn @ 124:

Not exactly hateful - what I want to see is Hagee, the 100 year occupation, the flip flops, the ignorant economic statements, his love for more wars and all the other junk hammered home until the MSM picks it up. I know KO would pick it up, so would Dan Abrams - I think, but who else? This should be made part of the Democratic machine, because we don't get the exposure they do. Why else would 33% still believe Obama is a muslim? We need guests to get on Fox who don't wimp out. Be as firm as Bill Clinto was opposing Chris Wallace.

I don't want to see 'hate', I want to see 'truth'

Obama is going to be there Sunday.

Brad's picture

Maybe the chimp could be confined to an oval office replica with glass on one side, so he could be watched all the time and listened in on, demolishing his privacy-- now serving a life sentence as an educational tool for young students field trips and classroom viewing /webcam. The monkey-cam. He could share his cage with his cronies.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

Ron @ 125:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 120:

Ron @ 119:

bitter Edwin Hussein @ 116:
We can hope that he spends the rest of his life in prison. That way he has to suffer.

And that will help who how?

Me, just if I would know that people like that don't get away with what he has done. It's only in my dreams. I don't expect it to happen and it would give us a reason to use the prisons that exist.

Then i am sorry, Ron. I like you, but i am not going to persue the imprisonment of Bush so you can realize your wet dream.

We need to d a lot more than fuck up Bush. We need a judicial judiciary, a legislating Congress and an intellectual President among a list of thousands of things to get this planet straight. Bush is a mere symptom of our lazy and apathetic culture and we are to blame and we need to figure out why and fix it.

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Brad @ 129:

Maybe the chimp could be confined to an oval office replica with glass on one side, so he could be watched all the time and listened in on, demolishing his privacy-- now serving a life sentence as an educational tool for young students field trips and classroom viewing /webcam. The monkey-cam. He could share his cage with his cronies.

Yeah, imprison him in his own presidential libray. What a great idea.

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xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 120:

Ron @ 119:

bitter Edwin Hussein @ 116:

110 tyree Says: Ron @ 104:

tyree @ 84:

And that will help who how?
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In some places, instead of making scarecrows, they nail a dead crow to a post. It serves as a warning to others.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

bitter Edwin Hussein @ 132:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 120:

Ron @ 119:

bitter Edwin Hussein @ 116:

110 tyree Says: Ron @ 104:

tyree @ 84:

And that will help who how?
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In some places, instead of making scarecrows, they nail a dead crow to a post. It serves as a warning to others.

Texas executes the most murderers on the planet.

Explain to me, please, why is it they have not stopped murders?

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xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 130:

Ron @ 125:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 120:

Ron @ 119:

And that will help who how?

Me, just if I would know that people like that don't get away with what he has done. It's only in my dreams. I don't expect it to happen and it would give us a reason to use the prisons that exist.

Then i am sorry, Ron. I like you, but i am not going to persue the imprisonment of Bush so you can realize your wet dream.

We need to d a lot more than fuck up Bush. We need a judicial judiciary, a legislating Congress and an intellectual President among a list of thousands of things to get this planet straight. Bush is a mere symptom of our lazy and apathetic culture and we are to blame and we need to figure out why and fix it.

Don't be so sarcastic. If it was a wet dream, I can guarantee you that Bush wouldn't be in it.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

Ron @ 134:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 130:

Ron @ 125:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 120:
Me, just if I would know that people like that don't get away with what he has done. It's only in my dreams. I don't expect it to happen and it would give us a reason to use the prisons that exist.

Then i am sorry, Ron. I like you, but i am not going to persue the imprisonment of Bush so you can realize your wet dream.

We need to d a lot more than fuck up Bush. We need a judicial judiciary, a legislating Congress and an intellectual President among a list of thousands of things to get this planet straight. Bush is a mere symptom of our lazy and apathetic culture and we are to blame and we need to figure out why and fix it.

Don't be so sarcastic. If it was a wet dream, I can guarantee you that Bush wouldn't be in it.

I was not being sarcastic. I was dead serious.

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xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 135:

Ron @ 134:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 130:

Ron @ 125:

Then i am sorry, Ron. I like you, but i am not going to persue the imprisonment of Bush so you can realize your wet dream.

We need to d a lot more than fuck up Bush. We need a judicial judiciary, a legislating Congress and an intellectual President among a list of thousands of things to get this planet straight. Bush is a mere symptom of our lazy and apathetic culture and we are to blame and we need to figure out why and fix it.

Don't be so sarcastic. If it was a wet dream, I can guarantee you that Bush wouldn't be in it.

I was not being sarcastic. I was dead serious.

If you are that serious about my wet dreams, I'm a little worried.

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Olbermann's become a self-conscious schmuck.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

pickles @ 137:

Olbermann's become a self-conscious schmuck.

Why? Because he corrects his misstatements or because you are a Republican who wants to find fault?

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

Ron @ 136:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 135:

Ron @ 134:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 130:
Don't be so sarcastic. If it was a wet dream, I can guarantee you that Bush wouldn't be in it.

I was not being sarcastic. I was dead serious.

If you are that serious about my wet dreams, I'm a little worried.

Sorry, Ron. I am not trying to find fault with you. I am just beginning to think that the hope that we will ever convict and imprison Bush is almost beside the point.

We need to update our system of government. I propose we start by abolishing the "rights" of the corporations and toss the Media Monopoly into which ever ocean is handy.

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I guess ' with the same fervor' would have been better than vile and vicious.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

ABOLISH THE MEDIA MONOPOLY should be the bumper sticker on the car of every thinking American.

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We need to update our system of government. I propose we start by abolishing the "rights" of the corporations and toss the Media Monopoly into which ever ocean is handy.

Let's toss it between Jenna Bush's legs. More room.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

ronhohn @ 140:

I guess ' with the same fervor' would have been better than vile and vicious.

I can certainly go with that as long as we use moral tactics. I would rather be enslaved and tortured than become what they are.

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#137

Shouldn't everybody be self-conscious?

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

ronhohn @ 144:

#137

Shouldn't everybody be self-conscious?

Every time Olbermann is mentioned some Republican troll stops in to make an oblique statement and runs away.

Count on it. The sun would not rise were it not to happen.

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When a guy who was appointed ambassador to Chilie by Bill Clinton and then goes on to become a major (.5 mil) fundraiser for HRC suddenly leaves her campaign, citing among other reasons, that "he was uneasy with the tone of the Clinton campaign", you know you got problems.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

25% of the world's food is now being used for fuel. Next we will go directly to marching the poor into power plants to increase efficiency.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

FilthyHarry @ 146:

When a guy who was appointed ambassador to Chilie by Bill Clinton and then goes on to become a major (.5 mil) fundraiser for HRC suddenly leaves her campaign, citing among other reasons, that "he was uneasy with the tone of the Clinton campaign", you know you got problems.

Actually i know Clinton has problems and has become a problem.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

We are living on Easter island. We are in deep shit.

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In the beginning there were 10, or 11, I forgot, but it was always between Edwards, Hillary and Obama. After Edwards left, I leaned Hillary then switched to Obama, and am now becoming more and more disenchanted with Hillary.
Now she wants another debate. Obama should refuse, since I believe her intent is to try to destroy him with republican slime and slander.

Nevertheless anyone will be better than McInsane

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