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Any chance we can get a terrorist organization to endorse McCain?

Can we make one up?

You can view this segment when you visit the Amnesty International link provided in the article.

Ashcroft and Bond:
You are a disgrace to the state of Missouri.

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Divyesh @ 6:

The technique involves placing a cloth of some kind over the person's face before pouring the water. Great idea, but a little accuracy would be nice.

What´s your point? You can watch the video Making "The stuff of life" at the unsubscribe website. There you´ll find out that the people who made the film are well aware that in reality the torturers cover the victim´s face with "a cloth of some kind" to terrify the victim even more than shown in the film. And in case you really need it, you can even see the technique performed in the accurate fashion.
Moron!

Sitemonitor: Thanks for finally posting the film. I´ve posted it a few days ago about three times already and I was wondering why noeffingbody seemed to be interested the least bit.

[No need to thank the monitors. We're merely readers with magical powers, but not the magical powers to post blog content, necessarily. Thank Bill W.. He did all the work here. Site Monitor]

@ Sitemonitor: Sorry, my fault.

@ Bill W.: Thank you for posting!

Radically Moderate @ 14:

Mike the Canuck @ 10:

next time your goverment goes after another nation about torture..... All I have to say is it's like the pot calling the kettle black

Picture an American Soldier before his captors, strapped to a board about to be immerced in a tub of water when he exclaims:
"You can't do this to me, it violates the Geneva Convention articles of cruel and unusual punishment".
As a veteran I feel dishonored by the actions taken by those who authorized torture techniques in the name of the United States, and I hope that they will be punished by the full measure of our laws some day soon.
BTW It is an embarassment to our Nation that some who served or are serving the BushCo LLC will not be able to travel to foreign countries because of their complicity in crimes of war and yet protected from extradition by our laws or rather those who are tasked to enforce our laws. It is a Dichotomy of Conscience.

Correction: It is a Corruption of Conscience!

Divyesh @ 6:

The technique involves placing a cloth of some kind over the person's face before pouring the water. Great idea, but a little accuracy would be nice.

Actually, the cloth over the mouth is used to make it worse. You saw the guy in the video cough out the water. The cloth over the mouth makes it harder to get enough water coughed back out, so you just become more and more aware that you are quickly starving for air and the second the water starts pulling up into your windpipe is the near death experience that makes this work.

I read this on some winger's blog. The guy waterboarded himself without the cloth and with the cloth to see what all the fuss is about, and even though he was in total control of the situation, he said it was traumatic and psychologically damaging and he would never want to go through it again.

Since the administration thinks this is an important tool for protecting our national security and the outing of secret agents is treason, should we be waterboarding Cheney and company to see who really outed Valerie Plame?

Divyesh @ 6:

The technique involves placing a cloth of some kind over the person's face before pouring the water. Great idea, but a little accuracy would be nice.

If we every get any of our politicians who are so dismissive of waterboarding to give a try, you make sure that they use the cloth over the politician's face. It will add to the experience of "just" doing the backstroke while the pol is sucking in the cloth and can't see when to expect the next deluge of water.

Atty Gen John Ashcroft:
Sen Kit Bond:
Gov Mike Huckabee:

Three very sick people. They are not even mature enough to deal with the topic in a responsible "adult" manner. (Isn't that what school kids do when they're uncomfortable; "joke"?)

I wonder what they'd say if it were a fetus being drowned.

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Anyone who can condone waterboarding has forfeited their humanity. Anyone who can condone waterboarding is a monster.

me @ 28:

Why is it that the ONLY people who say waterboarding is not torture are the ones who are guilty of doing it, and their supporters?

Torturers will always find some justification. No matter how perverse, contrived or distorted. They even torture their logic.