The DNC's new John McCain 100 years in Iraq ad
By John Amato Saturday Apr 26, 2008 6:00pm
The media rushed to McCain's side to shower him with love and affection after he told an audience that he'd be happy to stay in Iraq for 100 years. He's tried to say that American casulties are his bench mark. Well sir, how many Americans do you consider expendable in Iraq? And how many Iraqi's should die in the process too. Not that they seem to matter in his mind. Heck, it's only their country.
Over 60% of America believes it was a bad idea to invade them even after the Petraeus Propaganda Show. In the latestes ABC/WaPo poll 56% of Americans believe we should get out of Iraq even after the media blitz on "the surge."
Do you think the United States should keep its military forces in Iraq until civil order is restored there, even if that means continued U.S. military casualties; OR, do you think the United States should withdraw its military forces from Iraq in order to avoid further U.S. military casualties, even if that means civil order is not restored there? 56% withdraw 41& Keep forces in
There's no spin here. Their efforts to control the message has not worked. Vote McCain and you'll get more of the same. It's that simple.
President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for 50 years…Maybe 100. That would be fine with me. President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq 50 years…Maybe 100. If all he offers is more of the same….is John McCain the right choice for America's future?
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It would be nice if they could add: "John McCain is responsible (or "should be held responsible") for the content of this advertising."
Saw it this morning on Beat the Meat. Not a bad start. First thing that grabbed me was how OLD
they made him lookhe IS. Plenty of time to pile it on in subsequent ads. Good job.McCain is a-dancin' and a-spinnin', but he can't get around the fact that he said what he said.
This ad was discussed on Meet The Propaganda this morning. Howard Dean was reminded that some wingnut group somewhere is suing over this ad, claiming it was created in coordination with the Obama and Clinton campaigns.
Project much, neocons?
As if the Democratic Party could coordinate in any case...
I could be totally wrong, but isn't NBC owned by GE? Doesn't GE also have military interests? Is GE making a profit of selling their shit to the military?
Why on Earth would GE want their "news" division to do anything other than keep the war going in any way they can? It's sick.
Excellent. More like this, please.
It is too slow and doesn't hit hard enough.
War is a racket. Bush and his Krook Kronies wanted a windfall and they saw the opportunity to get it.
It was bait and switch all of the way and maybe people are ready to hear that.
They aren't going to hear it from the Corporate Media. Except in a political ad.
Many Democrats are also at the feeding trough so…
Oh come on people. Hey, Howard Dean and the DNC! Tell the world right now, do you honestly think the US military will not be in Iraq for decades, if not 100 years? Come on, be realistic. It's about oil people. Until that oil, which by the way, has made the US what it is, runs out, the US will be in Iraq. I don't care what politician comes out and lies about leaving says. The US is going NOWHERE. Troops will be in Iraq for decades. Don't fall for this bullshit.
Swiftboating, Distortion and Fear-Mongering.
Howard Dean: "We're not like them."
Nice propaganda, DNC. Seriously, what's the difference between this ad and the fear-mongering propaganda ads that the RNC churn out?
dennis @ 9:
Dennis, you sound a lot like Charles Barkley when he claimed that he was misquoted in his autobiography.
ConcernedCanuck @ 8:
Do you really think that Corporate America thinks of you as anything other than a tool?
dennis @ 9:
Hmmm... McCain did say he's not opposed to keeping us in Iraq for 100 more years, and I haven't seen an organized effort to lie about McCain's military service the way the Swiftboaters lied about Kerry.
Seems like ya got bupkes, d.
ConcernedCanuck @ 8:
The United States is not deriving any financial benefit from staying in Iraq. Oil or no. And we are going broke trying to stay there.
Result: we're gone next year. End of discussion.
Scherzo @ 10:
Oh how cute! You want the democrats hold hands and play nice?
The Republicans are on their knees and I say kick em in the balls!
Slaw @ 11:
Ooh, nice comeback Pottsy.
But you wouldn't say that about Rev. Wright. No, no, he was cherry-picked and taken out of context. Not so here, right Slaw?
I'm not surprised by the DNC running this ad. I just have to laugh when they say they're not like 'them'. They're not- they want to be, but they're not.
This is worse than Dan Rather's fake memo.
This is a very weak ad. It uses the very low 500 billion dollar figure which is complete nonsense and has no mention of the perhaps 1,000,000 Iraqi deaths so that these war criminals can make a quick buck. I find it disturbing that the main objection to this war is the it cost money but I do believe Steiglitz's numbers are more appropiate.
14 slippy hussein toad Says:
The United States is not deriving any financial benefit from staying in Iraq. Oil or no. And we are going broke trying to stay there.
Result: we’re gone next year. End of discussion.
Believe what you want, but what are you going to do when that fairy tale ending does NOT come true? Iraq isn't making the US go broke. It's a combination of many many factors with Iraq being one of them. No, sorry, but the US military is going nowhere regardless who promises it. If you think your economy is in sad shape now, wait till you don't have access to the oil through military tactics. You NEED the oil, and Dems and RePukes know it.
dennis @ 16:
Gee, dee dee, why don'cha fill us in on the missing "context" of McCain's statements?
At current rates of US military suicides, 120/wk ----
that makes for over 6400 a year suicides of US troops
for a 100 year occupation, is present rates continued, that would top out at
640,000 lives lost just from suicides. Approximately the total casualties for the American Civil War.
Great ad, keep going, stop with all the nice bullshit dems, beat those fuckin repubs at their own game. It is ABOUT time to start this kind of blitz...remember MOST amerkuns get their info in 15 to 30 second ads like this.
And on another note...he is too old, has anger management issues, and was on Hanoi radio. For more info on this check out counterpunch.org
Of course mccain wouldn't mind being in Iraq another 100 years
If his only other choice is 10-20 here.
Dear DNC folks:
Many of your members - including one who wants to be president - voted in favor of giving this regime unlimited warmaking powers a few years ago, and many of those folks continue to vote time after time to give this regime the money it needs to prolong this war.
Pot, meet frickin' kettle.
Rusty Shackleford @ 19:
Pottsy? Actually, I'll give you points for that one.
But please do fill us in. And while you're at it, check out what Rev. Wright had to say to Bill Moyers:
http://www.streetprophets.com/story/2008/4/26/13582/1350 (abbreviate version)
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04252008/transcript1.html (full transcript)
reichwingers say play-nice knowing it'll play to the Democratic weakness
And then they don't have to.
Say QuakerDave
Wasn't Nixon a Quaker too?
ysbaddaden @ 26:
I don't know if he was really a Quaker, perhaps in name only, but it is known he was a Bohemian Grover.
How would Americans like it if China bombed us to obliteration to get rid of our dictator Bush, and occupied our country for 100 years!
I've always heard Nixon was of Quaker descent. I would never classify RMN himself as such.
birdflewover @ 28:
The Bush supporters would be out helping the communists round up dissenters.
Old, likely growing senile, standing in the way of fresh perspectives on this Bush created shitstorm, a crash opportunist and an old, old political animal thru and thru...I offer up (maybe throw up is more like it), John (the republican) McCain... He'll stay the course, he'll follow the Bushco gameplan right down to the final letter, dotted i and crossed t, whatever the hell that plan and end game is suppose to be... Yea, that's the ticket.. Let's go with that red staters... We don't have enough shit for our grandchildren to spit on our graves over yet.....
I got another hot flash for all the Clinton/Obama supporters feverishly flinging shit at one another and making threats to not vote dem this coming nov. IF their boy/girl doesn't make the cut.... IT'S THE REPUBICANS STUPID!!!!! They are the ones looking to clean up and punk you out yet again... They are the ones ruining our nation!!! Got a snarky response?? I don't want to hear it!!!! IF you idiots fuck around and give this election to the repubs yet again after the last 8 years? You motherfuckers had better go look in a goddamned mirror for someone to blame next december!!!!
Here's a short mantra to consider, 'ANYONE BUT A REPUBLICAN DAMMIT!!!!!
A.N.Y.O.N.E. Fuck sake! I wanted Kuch and/or Edwards but you don't hear me bitching and moaning about how I'll stay home, or I'll vote repub in protest, or I'll take my marbles and go home to pout in my bedroom or any of that shit!
I'm currently backing Obama, but I will vote Clinton if I have to.. I will vote Dem period!!!! Even if I have to hold my nose to do it... I don't know for sure if or what Hillary or Barach can or will do, but I damned well know what to expect from McCain and it ain't nothing I want any part of!!! I respectfully suggest anyone with half a brain do the same...vote dem, whomever wins that nomination.. Or is it, that maybe you all want to see McCain get in with all the shit he's already promised and more unspoken???? Yea? Is that it? Well, good fucking luck with that lamebrained idea.................
FUCK! This shit isn't even funny at all, but ya just know Limbaugh and the rest of that ilk are just laughing themselves silly at this rediculous bullshit circular firing squad the dems are in the middle of forming up..........................ARRRGH!!! JD
the dnc needs to fix the ad
its over 4,000 american dead
and then they need to show pictures of dead iraqi children and note over 100k iraqi's dead
then show mccain with blood on his hands
then show him trying to compare iraq with korea and japan...and show pics of thriving korea and japan and war torn iraq
oh, and how about running an ad about how we are bringing democracy to people who still practice honor killings
Scalia on 60 minutes now. waiting for the "get over it" comment.
The partisian hacks on these boards are exactly the reason we need Obama for president.
Leslie Stall just kissed Scalia's ass in the introduction.
Take the gloves off, Dems. Call out the fascists on all of their policies. America needs a change but will Obama (or even Hillary) be able to withstand the 'swiftboating' onslaught that is sure to come?
Somehow I think "King of the Hill" is more relevant...
McCain says Obama insensitive to the poor
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24341170/
He said that out loud, honest.
"bearded sandal waiving flag burner" Scalia just made this comment. Nasty bastard.
Scalia: "I'm a conservative, I'm a law and order guy".
Does this mean he will be frog marching Bush and Cheney out of the Oval Office soon?
McCain says Obama insensitive to the poor
This is a great Ad. It has suckered the Republicans into going into to full whining mode. That causes the media to show the clip over and over, and a lot more people get to hear War Monger McCain, in his own words, talking about keeping our Troops in Iraq for a Hundred years.
The latest Gallup National Poll shows that 63% of voters now think that the Invasion of Iraq was a huge mistake. That is the highest number ever rated against any war, including Vietnam. McCain is bucking 63% of the voters when he talks of keeping our Troops, as sitting Ducks, in Iraq for another hundred years.
I hope that the Republicans keep on complaining about the ad, so that the media has to show the clip in all their news shows.
I would post the link, in fact i have tried six times but it will not post.
[Sorry. They all went into the spam filter. I posted one for you-Sitemonitor]
...oops, I thought I was in open thread..
Rusty Shackleford @ 19:
Here ya go, Rusty. The full video, but something tells me you've already seen it. I'd hope so, anyway. You don't strike me as the kind of guy who doesn't want to get the whole story- truth has a liberal bias and all...
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VRAshmSdps"McCain 100 Years in Iraq 1/3/2008 Town hall meeting
<em“Maybe a hundred. We’ve been in South Korea, we’ve been in japan for 60 years. We’ve been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That’d be fine with me as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. Then it’s fine with me, I hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Queda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.”
The section above in bold was edited out of the ad, and clearly changes the meaning of McCain's response to the questioner. Dishonest, to say the least.
Cheer if you want, but it's dishonest. Like I said before, the type of thing McCain would denounce.
Did I just hear Scalia say "shit kicker" during family hour? (I've got rabbit-ear antenna on the set, so maybe it was just a fade in and out?)
McCain says Obama insensitive to the poor
RE: #46--sorry sitemonitor, wrong thread...
McCain 100 Years in Iraq 1/3/2008 -Town Hall meeting
Dennis,
Without you we would have no dishonest Republicans on C&L to be ashamed of.
fastfeat @ 48:
My fault, I started it!
fastfeat @ 46:
we are going to need an entire thread for all the arrogant conservative activist bullshit he's been spewing
Or an entire library.
GC @ 21. I agree. The ads should use more war footage with graphic images, too. Something that might wake up the braindead 30% of the public that still thinks the Iraq war is a good idea.
uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 32. You beat me to it, I see! Great minds think alike.
(PS - I don't see the preview box today, only the submit comment box. Is it only me?)
You can bank that the Corporate Media won't be playing this one over and over like they have the NC Republican attack ad against Obama.
Snowball @ 56:
You mean the one John McCain denounced, Snowball? That one?
Maybe a hundred. We’ve been in South Korea, we’ve been in japan for 60 years. We’ve been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That’d be fine with me as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed.
Japan and South Korea were pacified before Americans troops have been committed for so long. Iraq has not.
Additionally we outlawed the Japanese military when we wrote their constitution, so they rely on our forces first responders.
What about Iraqi's lives and injuries? Additionally, what about the cost? Excessive war spending is helping to devalue our dollar so severely, that's why we can't afford gas or food anymore, and the Chinese are underwriting our economy.
Try again.
Scherzo @ 10:
This ad is depicting what the candidate himself actually said, not guilt by association
This wasn't a gaffe, it is what McCain actually believes. If his standard for leaving Iraq because it is too bloody for American troops hasn't been met yet, it never will.
lol @ dennis.
yeah, poor powerless McSame, couldn't get the mean old lady at the RNC to take down that ad...
if only McSame had some power and leadership abilities things would be different.
poor, weak, McSame.
John McCain clearly said he favors a 100 year occupation of Iraq. Even dennis admits it by posting McCain's gaff in its entirety. McCain must answer this question: If Iraq is no longer violent, why do you support keeping troops there? On the other hand, if he's claiming that he only wants to keep troops there if there is no violence, then why does he support exposing our troops to harm with stop loss and extended tours if there is no end to violence in sight?
dennis @ 57:
Yes, the one he refuses to confront the head NC Republican party and demand they stop running it.
Ruthless People @ 52:
Just ended with something about essentially "working for free" since he's past retirement age. Can we get a refund on those overpaid years and a reversal of a few of those 5-4 decisions then?
(OK sitemonitor, I'm done with it on this thread)...Simpson's is on!
If McCain can't, or most likely won't, reign in the extremist elements of the Republican party (which, these days is most if not all of it) how can he govern a nation?
OT if anyone is interested Pastor Wright is speaking at the NAACP dinner on CNN. You might want to watch before Faux crops it.
dennis @ 16:
And to be swift boating, the DNC would have to be attacking McCain's war record. Only Republicans are base enough to play that game.
dennis @ 9:
Distortion? Why, because he didn't mean that he desires the war and the casualties to continue for 100 years? Because he meant that he hoped that we'd just be there maintaining a peaceful military presence like in other parts of the world?
Sorry, we know what he meant. And if the Republicans call us on it, our candidate will respond, "Yeah, we know that you desire a peaceful presence in Iraq for a century. We're not distorting you. The fact that you think that that's possible demonstrates that you're unfit for office. We're not distorting you. Our presence causes casualties, and this is not like any other part of the world. It's not like the other wars of the 20th Century. Hell, the Bush gang have been telling us this is a different kind of war all along. Why now is it just like any other? No, McCain, you said we could be there for 100 years, living happily and peacefully, but you have no idea what you're talking about or how the world works today. You're a relic. You're a dinosaur. You served your country well once. Don't dishonor that service by pretending you know what's happening now."
Now, to be perfectly honest, Dennis, are there people who will derive the wrong message from the ad? That McCain does want to continue the casualties for 100 years? Yeah.
But you know what? We're not taking a suicidal high road this time. If your opponent comes into the ring with brass knuckles and a knife, and you insist, out of principle, on playing by the Marquis of Queensberry rules, you'll be lucky only to get your teeth knocked out.
If the other side wants to scream distortion, we're ready. It'll open up the real debate! This ad has a legitimate message, and people ought to be scared of another four years of Republican control of our declining nation.
Snowball @ 68:
Ever hear of a group called Vietnam Vets against McCain?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFM1xqqTX_g
chuck @ 70:
Are they attacking his record in Vietnam? No, ok, no comparison.
Yesterday I bought a car from an Iranian who was closing his dealership in Arizona. He said that he was planning to go back to his country and said that we Americans are so stupid because we don’t protest against this shit on gas stations and elsewhere, he also said that the Iraq war was for profit only so the guys like Bush and Chaney could get richer (like I didn't know that) and if we have to pay for gas 6 bucks, we will, because we are weak and stupid. Then I though to myself, hmm, McCain said that he wanted to "bomb, bomb, bomb Iran", Hillary said recently that she will bomb Iran as well, the future "leadership" of America. How f*cked up is that? Not just this particularly telling example that reminds you of the movie The Last Picture Show, but generally speaking, everything!
Anyway, Vietnam Vets against McCain is a POW/MIA organization, not a Democratic group.
On a little more research, Vietnam Vets against McCain is attacking his record, but the odd thing is, these aren't Democrats, they're Republicans. One of the main speakers is Bob Dornan.
Snowball @ 71:
chuck @ 75:
OK, so you admit it's a Republican group, as I said, Democrats don't play that game.
You insinuated it was a Democratic group. For shame!
Snowball @ 74:
This is all going to come out at a certain point during the campaign. McCain is going to be seen as the Manchurian Candidate. Add the Keating 5 Scandal on top of this and it is going to get messy for the GOP. They really did pick the wrong candidate.
Well, I don't know what Dornan's reason for going after McCain like that was, it doesn't surprise me one bit to see one far right Republican going after another. Republicans eat their own, we know that. Given Clinton's campaign tactics of late, they might try to use this, but I doubt if Obama would ever sanction it.
As angry as I am over the swift boat attacks, I hope no Democrat stoops to bringing this up.
McInsane has the chickenhawk vote all sewn up.
I like Dennis. This is a fellow that S&L can have a
little fun with. He's a Right Wing asshat who is easy
to rebut. He gets pissed & is a lier. Keep it up Denass,
Rush is watching your every move.
Scherzo @ 10:
Uh, this ad is accurate, for starters....
I forgot to add, "you whiny little wussy republican crybaby."
Dennis@9
Dude, please stop embarrassing yourself and your family name attempting to defend the indefensible. McWar said it! With his own sociopathic lips! Even the 28%ers wouldn't back you up on this bullshit. I'm really starting to worry about you. Please go and lay down.
This add needed Louis Armstrong singing what a wonderful world.
The ending is weak, naturally. The Dems put it together. Always tentative. Don't want to disturb anyone. Pantiwaists.
dennis @ 9:
Get a grip. This is a CLIP of McCain SAYING he doesn't care if the war last one hundred years. McCain SAYING IT. It's a fact. The guy is fine with the war lasting one hundred years. Fine with it! We all saw him say it at the time. It was NEWS, is NEWS. No need to swiftboat this bastard.
The DNC attack ad against John McCain persists in spreading lies & distortions regarding the so-called 100 year ago remark. The DNC pretends to be unaware of the Washington Post FactChecker website which debunked the anti McCain horsecrap and closely examined what he actually said.
http://tinyurl.com/6bjbsl
Oh, give the fuck up already, wouldja? NOTHING is going to change because nothing CAN change. The US will be in Iraq or wherever beefs up Dick Cheney's investment portfolio as long as the ruling class deems it necessary. When the majority is finally incarcerated things will only have degraded to the the point of entropy. This Shit Is Over. "Don't Vote, You'll Only Encourage The Bastards"
James Fellman @ 17:
It certainly is a very weak ad, and bravo for someone pointing out how disgusting it is to ignore the tremendous civilian death toll (not to mention the "coalition" fatalities.) It's hard not to tune out something that is that oblivious to that level of suffering.
dennass,
Me thinks you need to give unka Dickie a shove and take a few more swigs from the koolaid jug.
Glug, glug, glug. You did not read the talking points.
Let's send Bush and McCain, along with the entire GOP to Iraq! They can stay there for a 1000 years! Future generations of American's as of now unborn, will be very grateful.
That was a good ad. I love the Bush albatross being tied around McCain's neck with these ads.
where'd the ad go? it's just an empty space (like the inside of certain mavericks' heads)
Snowball @ 74:
Why bother dealing with the dim bulbed wingnuts on reality's terms? That's an unfair fight.
ashabot @ 87:
You may want to wait until he comes back to consciousness after his case of the vapors. Or give him the smelling salts and then tell him. Or best yet, just dump him off of his fainting couch.
I agree that this add should not end with a question, to which some Americans are going to answer "yes." End with a statement, mention the number of Iraqi civilians that have died, or mention the number of our troops that are coming home injured (physical, mental), or the cost to the American public in terms of national debt... punch it up, Dems. Right now the ad seems as old as McCain. And, please please don't make the 100 year comment the center piece of your ad campaign. There is so much more to nail him on, and this is pretty much old news.
McCain is as phony as a two dollar bill. First he casually states that we may be in Iraq for "a hundred years"; then he softens his tone and pretends he didn't mean it. He doesn't know who the parties are in Iraq and needs turncoat Lieberman to cue him on which party is which there. He says he wants federal funds, then exceeds the limit for spending his funds, and he would be guilty of a crime if it weren't for the fact that the Federal Election group hasn't got enough members to come down on him. He tells homeowners that he believes they shouldn't get government help because that isn't free enterprise, then he promises help but it's so meager it won't mean much. He calls himself a straight talker, but won't release his wife's tax returns (to show how wealthy she really is). He takes a government disability pension, yet calls himself fit to run. If this isn't the perfect picture of a hypocrite, what is? It also shows how the Media is so screwed up because they take him seriously when he'll say anything, promise anything, to get elected.
Mccain said that we may be in Iraq for 100 years, referring obviously, as all veterans would, to the way our military has remained in foreign nations after wars. We probably will be in Japan, Germany, and Korea 100 years after each of those wars, and we'll probably be in Iraq 100 years after.
This advertisement cut off the rest of the dialogue, where Mccain said he was only ok with such a typical use of our forces if Iraq continues to improve to where our troops are as safe in Iraq as they are in Korea, Germany, Japan, and Idaho. I think a lot of voters might see through this type of context cutting, since it's obvious we should be in Iraq for as long as we can if we are going to secure that region. Our presence in Korea, Europe, and Japan have been stabilizing. Sure, it took about ten years for the insurgencies to die down in Europe and Korea, but since then it has a good deal for all involved. When it comes to oil, and of course terror, having the US in Iraq is good way to deter other nations from doing bad things. And of course, Obama has basically agreed to the same thing... leaving some presence in Iraq for a long time.
Also, Howard Dean said that Democrats have a higher standard, and won't make any hay of Mccain's age. A lot of folks here are pointing out how this ad highlights Mccain's age. I hope that's not going to be a theme going forward, because ageism is a seriously sad thing. Mccain is handicapped, but he's also apparently healthy.
I think we all tired of the divisive politics, Mccain is denouncing ads that link Obama to his pastor, and, whether this is a political calculation or not, he's getting a lot of credit for trying to be unifying and reaching across the aisle again.
I hope The DNC doesn't screw things up for everybody by making the Obama campaign one of ageism, context cutting, and general divisiveness.
OCPatriot @ 97:
That probably should read a 'three dollar bill', two dollar bills are legal tender.
dennis @ 45:
Yeah, I've heard McCain's whole statement. The DNC is not distorting it. 100 years in Iraq. Sorry it's inconvenient for you that he said it, d, but there it is.
The Dem. national committee should fire that do nothing C*NT, Naney Pelosi.
The Democrats are as guilty of war crimes as is the little deserter.
Now the DNC should make commercials which show how elitist McCain is, starting with his family's inherited money.
And then commercials which show the hate his welcome sponsor Hagee shows towards catholics and others not of his particular religious ideology.
dennis, anyone claiming that iraq is in any way like korea and japan is just showing his ignorance. mccain doesn't understand reality, and his preposterous 100-years comment shows he just doesn't get it, the same way he confuses shia and sunni.
and it doesn't matter whether he wants a hundred years of war or not. the iraq war isn't going to last another four years no matter who gets into the white house. the economy will cave in first, if it hasn't already. your war has pretty much bankrupted the country, unfortunately.
Now we just need to see the grandpa McBush ad where he is "singing", "bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran". YES, all you republiCONs he did sing that just like he said he'd be fine with the US in Iraq for 100 years. A true man of "peace" on the "straight talk express" that has blow 5 tires (from throwing people under the bus) and is now called the "forked tongue express" after the native Americans in Arizona and how the white man lied to them. Just like McBush is lying to America.
I'm afraid I've been swamped with graduate studies for a while now... I'm not questioning the "straight talking maverick" saying that or not getting heat for it, but can any of you guys link me to an example of "The media rushed to McCain’s side to shower him with love and affection" so I can see what you're talking about?
Thanks.
Why can't you guys just admit it when a Dem lies? It makes you look tinear and out of touch. The ad is obviously dishonest and it just makes you look foolish covering for them.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/dnc_vs_mccain.html
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