Patriots obey the law and the constitution.

I've listen to Cenk Uygur before - he's an ass hat.

more insightful campaign strategy from the young turks is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcxK3YH3Mjk

i watch TYT almost everyday. its a great show thats worth subscribing to.

Can you link him to Kevin Bacon?

How 'bout Canadian bacon?

My God! Obama's really *from Canada*!!!

all i know is, the people that call themselves patriots, are the people that i want nothing to do with.

I seem to remember Obama saying he would welcome a debate on patriotism. But so far I don't know that anyone has taken him up on it...

Doggiebobo @ 12:

OT: Just read an article in the LA Times, published today, indicating that we
have just obtained clear, hard evidence that Iran is supplying weapons to Iraq
militants in their fight against us. Yet, the article says that "the decision as to when and how to release this information is being left up to the Iraq Goverment."
WTF? IF this is true, why is it that the U.S. is not taking this directly to the UN
and/or sharing this "hard" evidence with the rest of the World? Makes absolutely
no sense to me....UNLESS, of course, such is just another example of our(US's)
practice of putting out inaccurace and/or erroreous information.

Or "using" the Iraqis to hide behind as we prepare to strike Iran. When the Iraqis go to the UN and say they feel Iran is a threat, it will pad bush and cheney's case.

Wearing patriotism on the sleeve used to be a joke. All of the villains on MASH were hyper-patriots who loudly proclaimed what great americans they were. For some reason shooting your mouth off has since become a virtue to some.

It would be good for people to remember that only about 55% of eligible citizens in the US bother to vote. Of those people only about 40% follow politics enough to even know the names of their Representative in congress, Senators, and President and Vice President. Of those people only about 48% agree with your party. So those of you who not vote for a Democrat or a Republican barley represent 1% of the population. So stop your thinking that there are a lot of people in the general population agree with you.

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Oklahoma City terrorist Tim McVeigh and Atlanta Olympics terrorist Eric Rudolph were both card-carrying RPUBLICANS.

John McSame is a REPUBLICAN ....

Hmmmmmm !!!

McSame's gonna have to explain why he endorses terrorism right here in America and why he choses to join organizations that harbor KNOWN terrorists.

And why does he hate America so much ?

Is that Panama-flag lapel pin on his flack jacket ?

Geraldo @ 26:

We need to get CNN to change their call letters to TRWC -- ALL WRIGHT, ALL THE TIME or something like that. Seriously, every time I turn on the TV they are blathering about Wright.

It's the white fear button. They will push it until they get McCain elected.

Patriotism,literally love of the Fatherland from the Latin "patria".America is a Patriarchy of an increasingly Nationalist and Authoritarian strain,in which the cold clear light of truth must take a back seat to Jingoism.
Of course much--but not all-- of what Reverend Wright has had to say is the truth.
The truth is not permitted to tarnish patriotic fervor in America.

Rusty @ 27,

They are gonna be pushin' that button an awful long time!

yeah, even after mccain gets elected (if he does) they'll have to keep pushing the race and fear buttons to distract attention from the four more years of delicious, chocolatey failure mccain's gonna give us.

Here's my Idea for obama , Because I believe his campaign and presidential hopes are sinking fast and he needs to change gears real fast and not rely on his past successes .

A. He needs to understand the massive smear campaign started by Hannity; fox and the rest of cable and address it head on . Not polite little senatorial discussions with Wallace , that plays on their turf and plays their game .

B. I would hold a rally or town hall and invite only CONSERVATIVES . I would lay down the ground rules and present the facts of his service to his community and his plans for the future and then take on questions, pointing out that the guilt by association campaign is serving nobody's needs , that FOx for example is doing a disservice to their viewers by ignoring more important issues . Divide and conquer , they do it every day . Any way , that's my crazy idea , for what ever its worth .

kahoneez: that's good advice. although i dont think his campaign is sinking. the wright thing will turn out to be a minor irritation, six months from now folks will be sick of hearing about it and the republicans will have a hard time making any more hay out of it.

"I question Barack's patriotism" = "I'm not gonna vote for a black guy"

Sooo... Sixty Million Plus are going to vote for McSame? Not gonna happen. BHO'08

Wes Clark For VP. The Obvious Choice.

Everyone and their brother wants to give advice to Obama at this point, but this is actually a good one. And face it, if Obama can't get past this he wouldn't have made a good president anyway, so it's no real loss. The way I see it, the presidential campaign is the testing ground for how well the candidate will sell the public on his or her policies and how well s/he will navigate the inevitable political barriers. FDR was a brilliant politician who knew how to use the media, and he used politics to a) get elected and b) get his good policies to work. That's the kind of Democrat the country needs, and if Obama is going to get sunk on this slew of attacks, too bad. If a presidential candidate can't field asinine political attacks during his campaign and have the conversation on his terms, he does not magically turn around to become a president who can turn the conversation to universal health care, getting out of Iraq, making the U.S. more secure, and repairing all the damage the Bush administration has done.

In the interests of full disclosure, I have contributed to the Obama campaign and am keeping my fingers crossed that he will pass the test. Because what we've seen so far ain't nothing yet compared to what will come if he attempts half the things he said he will achieve in office. If he can't be a good politician, he'll make a toothless president at best even if he does get nominated and elected somehow.

I don't know, but Cenk looks a lot like JA.

Cenk is right on time, please send a copy to Sen. Obama, asap, this way Sen. Obama will know we are on his side. There are plenty of good US citizens; a hell of a lot more than repugs say.

I enjoy the way Sen. Obama elevates his conversations because everyone isn't a flaming yokel.

Yep, repugs even politicized public men's rooms.
People's faiths
roasted turkeys.
They are whores.
All they know is gimme and snatching.

Go Obama!
Go USA!
Go Cenk!

Doggiebobo @ 12:

OT: Just read an article in the LA Times, published today, indicating that we
have just obtained clear, hard evidence that Iran is supplying weapons to Iraq
militants in their fight against us. Yet, the article says that "the decision as to when and how to release this information is being left up to the Iraq Goverment."
WTF? IF this is true, why is it that the U.S. is not taking this directly to the UN
and/or sharing this "hard" evidence with the rest of the World? Makes absolutely
no sense to me....UNLESS, of course, such is just another example of our(US's)
practice of putting out inaccurace and/or erroreous information.

Why would it matter any way? chimpy is supplying weapons to our "enemy."
What happened to the weapons that were sold stolen? chimpy has supplied Iraq with enough ammo to last a 100 years.

What are the Iraqis and Iranians suppose to do? Not defend their land?

It's another stupid turdism. It smells like shit.

myiq2xu @ 18:

The game won't catch on, because Obama won't be around much longer.

He'll be lucky to keep his Senate seat.

Phew, I'm glad y'all are in the minority.

Nawh, mcc will be lucky to still be walking.

diamondmc @ 40:

I find it interesting to hear all these people who all of sudden are writing Obama off. I suspect these people watch alot of the talking heads on the boob tube. Most people that I come in contact with are not swayed by all the bullshit you hear from Tweety and the rest of the gang. People I know who have voted for Obama know why they voted for him and it had nothing to do with Rev Wright, flag pins, 60's radicals or any of the other crap you see on the boob tube 24/7. Obamas support has been grassroots support from the bottom up. The msm is trying as hard as it can to sway people away from Obama, because they are the elite power brokers and this black man scares the hell out of them. Lets hope they don't succeed.

Exacty!

They won't succeed. Voting for mcc is voting to send the next 5 generations off to die.

I don't mean to be critical here, but why are Americans so rabidly nationalistic? It seems as though there is this semantic debate over what patriotism means. The Democratic candidates argue that patriotism means supporting the troops, while Republicans claim you should just unflinchingly give your support to Bush. Can anyone explain to me why nationalism is still so salient in America while most other parts of the western world are post-nationalistic in a sense? There aren't any debates here in Canada, for instance, about politicians wearing flags or their religion.

Patriotism is standing up for what you believe in, even if it disagrees with "popular" opinion.

Patriotism is admitting your mistakes and changing course so you don't make more mistakes.

Patriotism is helping out the little guy, not cozying up to the big guy.

Patriotism is not acting like a sheep and following all the cool kids that like torture.

I have to say a great strategy by the Republicians....I mean Neocons. They have to find something negative on this guy that will stick with a certain demographic(dumbographic). The neocons want a mindless puppet....Obama doesn't fit that want. Obama believes in hope and opportunity. He understands the constitution. Republicians are faithful to there party. They also are having a difficult time dealing with their mishap in Iraq......they were wrong and thousands have been killed or injured.
They will win at any cost. They are dirty but I will say good at politics and terrible with policy unless of course your multi-millionaire.

OOPs "deftly" not detly. My bad.

Cenk's got a "fire in the belly." When he gets HOT about an issue, there is NO ONE better on the radio who can define an issue and make an effective argument.

I always get the Young Turks mixed with these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCBVwpNRQ2w