Open Thread
By bluegal Wednesday Apr 30, 2008 10:30pm
This excellent video on "The Cost of War" is from Eric Massa, one of our Blue America congressional candidates (NY-29). [h/t Howie]
Open Thread below...
This excellent video on "The Cost of War" is from Eric Massa, one of our Blue America congressional candidates (NY-29). [h/t Howie]
Open Thread below...
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On Fifth ‘Anniversary,’ Bush Declares ‘Missionary Position Accomplished’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1775
The Senate tries to separate
Blackwater from the CIA. Bush indirectly acknowledges that government aid to the poor is necessary.
McCain is forced to correct himself on that bridge collapse. Bob Gates was apparently unaware
our troops got crappy health care. But vets with brain damage have gotten no care.
Turn it up.
Johnny defends that "Mission Accomplished" banner. Hil loses another valuable superdelegate she happens to know personally.
Condensed version of Chris Matthews et al... http://xeth.com/quickie_pundit.htm
Turkey does its own Iraq bombing.
Eric Massa.
Wasn't he with the fighting dems of 2006?
You have to wonder if there is more to this story.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_linda_mi_080501_the_convenient__...
Guantanamo kicks out an Al-Jazeera reporter.
Ron @ 8:
I've mentioned it before and I'll say it here again,
You'll not convince me it was a suicide.
Why didn't Obama leave Jeremiah Wright's church?
Better question...
Why didn't Hillary leave/divorce Bill for being a lying, cheating, philanderer and abusing the Public Trust of his office?
Monica wasn't his first, and, given his track record, probably not his last.
~Nyc
10 MargeAggedon Says: Ron @ 8:
You have to wonder if there is more to this story.
http://www.opednews.com/articl.....22suic.htm
I’ve mentioned it before and I’ll say it here again,
You’ll not convince me it was a suicide.
=========================================================
They don't usually mention a suicide letter before the investigation is complete.
Ron @ 12:
The victim also doesn't often explicitly state that she will probably be killed and it will be made to look like a suicide, and that she would not commit suicide, prior to the event.
She was murdered by people who simply want to avoid a scandal during an election year. They'll sweep her under their rug and move on.
dc madame gets suicided, and hundreds of repug pols breathe a sigh of relief
ya, she was facing heavy time, but very few in her situation serve the amount of time as listed
at the most, she was looking at 3-5
she didnt kill herself
what kind of country do we live in?
oh i know, the one where doj suspects also experience wierd crimes
i dont like mike malloy, but the man is right..bush is running a crime family
Remember Cliff Baxter.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/04/10/eveningnews/main505845.shtml">
15 LostStories Says: Remember Cliff Baxter.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories.....5845.shtml“>
Of course Enron was the biggest corporate scandal up tp then. Since then, we have had so many, it's hard to say which one is worse.
Good night all.
And good luck.
rip jose simon.
jose was skippy's friend of over 30 years, a talented bay area comedian and improvisor who founded comedy day, the annual free comedy concert in golden gate park, a very big event in sf.
For police, it's much easier to pronounce a dead body lying the pool of its own blood on the floor, with a blood trail from the kitchen to the living room, a suicide. But perhaps a guy with his hands and feet bound, and his eyes taped over who drowned in a lake and calling THAT a suicide is BIT of a stretch. Oh, and the DC madam "suicide"...
Yeah, you guessed it, blog link
uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 14:
Why don't you like mike malloy?
Kerry gives MSNBC a lombardi slap on Wright:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/30/kerry-rips-msnbc-on-wrigh_n_994...
America's Suicide Calmers strike again.
sooo drunk
Orangutan. @ 20:
why?
i think he goes overboard when he talks about repugs
and i dont like when he gets into 9/11 conspiracy talk
Ask Questions. Demand Answers. Resist the Police State.
24 uncle joe hussein mccarthy Says: Orangutan. @ 20:
uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 14:
dc madame gets suicided, and hundreds of repug pols breathe a sigh of relief
ya, she was facing heavy time, but very few in her situation serve the amount of time as listed
at the most, she was looking at 3-5
she didnt kill herself
what kind of country do we live in?
oh i know, the one where doj suspects also experience wierd crimes
i dont like mike malloy, but the man is right..bush is running a crime family
Why don’t you like mike malloy?
why?
i think he goes overboard when he talks about repugs
and i dont like when he gets into 9/11 conspiracy talk
Quote This Comment May 1st, 2008 at 9:30 PM - PDT Leave a Reply
So you don't think there was a conspiracy or you just don't like malloy talking about it?
I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE thiers not a man or woman in this country that cant be killed or suicided by thoes c,i a types , on orders from the nuts in this government, money talks and bullshit walks, probably half the senators and congressmen thoes that arent being blackmailed have been given an offer they cant refuse, this woman was murdered and no bodys going to pay for it, ahhh whats the use im not telling you any more then you allready know , this time next year after another stolen election youll still be on here bitching after doing nothing to take this country away from these assasins , but not me i dont plan to spend my yrs i have left if any typeing for nothing , i believe that if mccains president these blogs will become obsolete because democracy is finnished ,
No way it was a suicide. If you were that pissed, sad, angry, depressed or scared enough to take your own life you would make sure to take them down with you. But maybe that's me. It's what I would have done. Besides that, women don't usually hang themselves, do they? The woman that claimed bush raped her, commited suicide too.
Why was the madam going to go to prison anyway? Vitter got a standing ovation for using her services. How f**ked is that?
It was no suicide. Women do not hang themselves.
And Mr. sanctity of marriage David Vitter is still a US Senator, no?
Janet @ 28:
Great minds. You beat me by two.
Washington politicians, the most powerful men in the world can make anything happen. It must have been one hell of a list.
Does Larry Flynt still have the list?
So he will be found next week on the end of a rope.
Janet & ezpz. Right on. That was no suicide.
It kind of brings to mind the anthrax scare, doesn't it?
Don't be messing with the Boys.
Ron @ 12:
This is one of the reasons that the CIA hires handwriting experts.
Well lookie here, the conspiracy theorists are out in force tonight. I need to start making a lot more “tin foil hats” but the price of tin is going through the roof and aluminum doesn’t work as well. Maybe Gerry Webb didn’t kill himself with two bullets in the head ether. And Paul Wellston’s plane just decided to give up too? But 19 cave dwellers with box cutters defied gravity and took down three high rise structures and you all buy it.
Janet @ 28:
Women usually pop pills or slit wrists. Men usually use the shotgun method. People only hang themselves in jail; sometimes with help from the guards.
calgarylady @ 33:
Good point about the Anthrax. It's hard to keep up with it all. I think that's why they get away with it. We need to be reminded as often as possible though in my opinion until they no longer get away with it. Last I heard the Anthrax was determined to come from a U.S. Laboratory, but no one wanted to look any further. Too scary I guess. What a weak nation. What a weak press. We can't even speak freely about crimes committed against us. No wonder we are moving so efficiently towards a fascist police state. But anyway. Good call on the Anthrax.. I'd forgotten about that.
Video: Was the D.C. Madam murdered?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-429280709450218322&q=madam+Debo...
Subject: Was the D.C. Madam murdered?
Was the D.C. Madam murdered?
story
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/DC_madam_commits_suicide_in_Florida_0501.html
discuss/comments
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/rawstory/10293a/
blogs are ablaze about it!
http://blogsearch.google.com/blogsearch?hl=en&client=news&q=DC+Madam+mur...
Headlines…
http://news.google.com/nwshp?hl=en&ned=us&ncl=1155388649&topic=h
Rice lies about Iran. A father tasered his child. Measle cases are up. LBJ was fairly useless in '68.
34 I Like Pie Says: Ron @ 12:
10 MargeAggedon Says: Ron @ 8:
You have to wonder if there is more to this story.
http://www.opednews.com/articl…..22suic.htm
I’ve mentioned it before and I’ll say it here again,
You’ll not convince me it was a suicide.
=========================================================
They don’t usually mention a suicide letter before the investigation is complete.
This is one of the reasons that the CIA hires handwriting experts.
=======================================================
They used to investigate crimes against the citizens, now they commit them.
The quote this comment link doesn't always work with explorer.
It always works with Safari.
I just say this; because, I am noticing a lot of cut and pastes again.
links are fine...user error on copying link from prior post which has already truncated the full URL, duh!
34 I Like Pie Says: Ron @ 12:
10 MargeAggedon Says: Ron @ 8:
You have to wonder if there is more to this story.
http://www.opednews.com/articl…..22suic.htm
I’ve mentioned it before and I’ll say it here again,
You’ll not convince me it was a suicide.
=========================================================
They don’t usually mention a suicide letter before the investigation is complete.
This is one of the reasons that the CIA hires handwriting experts.
========================================================
Yeah, with the handwriting on the wall, no reason for an autopsy.
americangoy @ 19:
British end of the P2 freemasons money laundering conduit says suicide
Italians in 2005 now say murder after exhumation and forensic autopsy
now missing webpage from 'The Scotsman' about twice robbed and stolen Coroners papers on the Calvi inquiry.
and it was all for a pathetic 1982s 200 million UKP, mere peanuts compared to Bushcos 8-12 billion dollars robberies in Iraq missing dollars..
The chance that this women, under these circumstances, would hang herself, is as unlikely as the Magic Bullet theory.
you will see that all possible evidence will disappear. Her telephone record will be missing, her
Yahoo e-mail account will be accidentally deleted, and the suicide note will be locked away for 50 year, for some BS reason.
uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 24:
9/11 wasnt a conspiracy, it was merely 19 cave dwellers armed with 99c box cutters overwhelming and defeating the combined US Mil, NORAD, CIA , FBI et al.
hardly a conspiracy when the CIA had the teams ringleader under 24/7 surveillance when he lived and studied in Europe.
Cas @ 45:
Yeah.. our only hope is that through the internet we can educate enough people to actually have an effect.
official quotes from TLA people to BBC and others on TV investigative documentaries that have been broadcast everywhere except the USA
45 Cas Says: The chance that this women, under these circumstances, would hang herself, is as unlikely as the Magic Bullet theory.
you will see that all possible evidence will disappear. Her telephone record will be missing, her
Yahoo e-mail account will be accidentally deleted, and the suicide note will be locked away for 50 year, for some BS reason.
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Actualy they will call the case closed and there won't be a major investigation.
the conspiracy is why the BBC and other European 9/11 documentaries are never shown on US television.
Ron @ 49:
fits well with an 'on message' MSM
repugs have nothing to say about their half-ass nominee so they stick their propaganda agenda into the dem nominees. It sickens me when I heard dumbass repugs making comments about our choices. It give me the willies.
Go Obama!
Go USA!
Bushco's people so incompetent they let their working and filled with gov info Blackberries be stolen en masse.
DOH
Tequila @ 4:
They know hillary is full of it.
hillary can't win, the numbers prove it.
For she is Goldielocks. GTFOOH
China gets another incurable virus.
When do they expect it to go international? Free trade works real well.
great lake swimmers!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DlcGkuwOY88&feature=related
Why are we fighting, why are we fighting?
Kicking and screaming, scratching and biting.
Keeping it going, wherever we're going.
Generations are generating,
And what am I supposed to do
But take good care, good care of you?
We have a lot of work to do,
Me and you, and you, and you.
Brothers and sisters are in my arms.
Brothers and sisters are up in arms.
Mothers and fathers, sons and the daughters.
Up in the army, the men and the ladies.
And we have a lot of work to do,
Me and you, and you, and you.
Out of the money and into the storm.
Brothers and sisters are in my arms.
I am part of a large family.
I am part of a large family.
I am part of a large family.
And that's enough for me.
Drop the axes, and recheck the facts, I said.
Brothers and sisters, telling the story.
Out of the money, and into the storm.
I said my peace, I said
I said my piece, I said peace, I said peace, I said.
I am part of a large family.
I am part of a large family.
I am part of a large family.
And that's enough for me
And speaking of hoors, why no mention of that neocon buttlicker, Jay Leno, and his slavering interview of Cindy McCain last night? He let her regale us with the details of how John chased her around the buffet table when they first met, but failed to ask her, "wasn't he still married to the mother of his children at the time?" I think he was.
via Firedoglake and DKos
Somebody asks McVerbal the question "did you call your wife a C@@@ ?"
McShifty looks down and pulls up his trousers and quickly moves on to the next questioner.
no report of any Kerry style Tazing.
video
Vman @ 57:
please, thats like blaming john stewart for the medias lack of hard questioning
The main stream media has such a narrow scope of opinion. I see the same god damn people on the shows all the god damn time. Plus half the people giving opinions on the war are plants by the military complex. its sad for the majority of people who get their news from these sources alone.
McCain thinks the rich deserve breaks, but not farmers. Another Japan-based American soldier can't keep it in his pants.
Tequila @ 54:
Just in time for the Olympics.
(hmmm)
to the truthers on this thread....please shut the fuck up
and no...cave dwellers with box cutters did not take down the towers
middle class, well educated saudis, armed with box cutters hijacked planes and crashed them into the towers....you stupid fucks
and as their is clear evidence over history that others have been "suicided", and that palfrey had alot of stuff on alot of very important people, that is what is leading many to question the veracity of the suicide story
she left 2 suicide notes?...sounds like overkill....as in...hey, you may not believe the first note...but here is a second one...see, i was really serious about killing myself
now it may come out that she was seriously depressed about the thought of prison time, and she may have told someone about her suicidal ideation...i just doubt it
and i aint no tin foil hat person
oswald shot kennedy
sirhan sirhan was not hypnotized by the cia
we did land on the moon
and bush is the reincarnation of emporer nero
Vman @ 57:
thats a lovely vision
42 year old war hero, chasing a 26 year old around the buffet table
ya, he definitely was a changed man after he got back from nam
Or "Did he tried to rape you?"
Remember Naomi Wolf's ten points when you see this outrageous piece:
http://www.mister-info.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=10545&format=html
Fascism.
Barrett D @ 59:
Uh, no, it's blaming Leno, who is a major media representative, for sliming his way around promoting another neocon jerk, much like he did with the governator. If clout is measured by viewer numbers, John Stewart, as much as I love him, is probably way lower on the chart than the hugely over rated Leno.
ferrofluid @ 58:
Now we are talking. Let the American people be heard. I've heard enough of Stephonopolous's and Charley Gibson's questions. I'm all for the American people stepping it up a bit in this whole process. Thanks for that link.
uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 63:
You'll be alright.
Orangutan. @ 68:
You see him thinking after the question; "Ok.. Serenity Now.. Serenity Now!"
I usually wouldn't say this, but CNN (International) has some news right now.
****'D.C. Madam' found hanged****
Deborah Jeane Palfrey said last year she would never return to prison
Palfrey **hanged herself** (?????) on mother's property, --->police say. Hmmm...
Suicide notes were found near the body, police say
Palfrey was convicted of running high-powered prostitution ring April 15
AND
****Bush's popularity lowest in U.S. history, poll shows****
A new poll suggests President Bush is the most unpopular president in modern American history. The CNN/Opinion Research Corp. survey indicates that 71 percent of the American public disapprove of how Bush is handling his job. The poll also indicates that support for the war in Iraq has never been lower.
Maybe we've been doing our work here, pretty good, eh??????
"Hmmm" is something!
13 MargeAggedon Says: Ron @ 12:
10 MargeAggedon Says: Ron @ 8:
You have to wonder if there is more to this story.
http://www.opednews.com/articl…..22suic.htm
I’ve mentioned it before and I’ll say it here again,
You’ll not convince me it was a suicide.
=========================================================
They don’t usually mention a suicide letter before the investigation is complete.
***The victim also doesn’t often explicitly state that she will probably be killed and it will be made to look like a suicide, and that she would not commit suicide, prior to the event.<<<<-----VERY GOOD POINT MARGE !!!!!!!! (I'm laughin', but it ain't funny.)
Gas prices are putting the heat on firefighters.
Food prices are undermining our "progress" in Afghanistan.
Being so disgusted with our overall leadership, I have not posted any comments lately. So THANK YOU C&L for your open threads....venting on any topic.
UNASKED QUESTIONS OF THIS PRESIDENT AND THE IRAQ WAR!!!!
1. Mr. President, since you saw the FIRST plane hit the TOWER on tv..it was obviously on (your very words) BEFORE going into the classroom...What channel was on and why has that station not aired the only other video of the FIRST 'plane' strike????????????? Didn't SEEING that set off the thought of the 08/06/2001 PDB ????
You could have delayed your classroom entrance I am sure to at least check it out or instruct someone too and continue on. Then when you were told of the 2nd strike, whisper to the teacher of the emergency and request a diversion for the children such as showing you how they conduct themselves in a fire drill???? Later, instead of breakiing the news to the children in another photo-op, the teacher could explain to them while you left to handle this major emergency. Huh ..is that a possible scenario??
Oh well, I guess you weren't thinking like you said, "I really ddn't think too much about it and was whisked off to the classroom" to read 'MY PET GOAT'.
2. The U.S. left Saddam in power after the Gulf War even though he was a brutal dictator. Apparently because he could : A)maintain control of the people of Iraq, including the Kurds, B) Keep Iran in check to not converge on him via their border, C) Keep Al Qaeda the hell out because he DID NOT LIKE Bin Laden.
Now I am so wondering, how is it the U.S. has the most powerful military in the world and they can't do the same??? Why does our dear leader whne about Iran and Al Qaeda are interfering in our deliverance of democracy to the Iraqi people????? Should our military leaders scan or fully read Saddam's playbook on maintaing order in Iraq??? Is the War being left open to last indefinitely???? Our military, even though have good intentions, are killing just as many Iraqi's as Saddam.
2a) Mr. President, why do you whine?????? Have you found Saddam's playbook on defense of Iraqi????? Though he was a brutal dictator, he had strategy.
3.) If the terrorist are RELIGIOUS fanatics, why on why would they bomb a MOSQUE?
4.) Mr. President, in a movie called "The Birds" a teacher played by Susan Pleshette believes the birds pose a danger to the children in the classroom. She races her mind for an idea to avoid injury to them by pretending she wants them to show how they calmly leave the class if there were a REAL firedrill. Now don't you think this was plausible on the morning of 9/11 so that you could get busy by demanding all skyscrapers in New York be evacuated and other important decisions???????
5.) Mr Rumsfeld, the day before 9/11, you mentioned some trillions the Pentagon could not account for. What progress has been made on that investigation???? Is it possible this money is partly how the 'attacks' were financed since it is probable it was an 'INSIDE JOB'?????
6.) Is it just a wee bit plausible that NORAD did not respond in a timely manner or given orders to because there were NO PLANES to ...oh well watch the videos in Slow motion at how the planes mellllllllllt into the towers.
7.) The plane that was supposely shot down in Shankesville, was it really headed for Camp David ??? After all, ON SEPTEMBER 11,1978, WITH JIMMY CARTER IN OFFICE, THE ISRAEL/ARAB PEACE ACCORD HAPPENED. RIGHT???? There has been tension between those two since and this possibly lends credence to the REASON and DATE for the 'attacks.
8.) ALL READERS...RESEARCH THIS!!!!!! SEPTEMBER 11,1978 CAMP DAVID ACCORD.
9.) The question of the passengers on the planes has been left wide open and never addressed because no one is really sure what may have happened them. Here's my thought. Possibly the first Americans to be entered into the containment camps. Hey, you gotta do a test first to see just how you are gonna handle angry Americans being treated like they are in a Third World country and this would sorta prepare you. In Loose Change, it was made a possiblity that theShankesville supposedly crashed plane was diverted to Ohio instead..who knows what the PASSENGERS were told and how they complied in lieu of what was happening that day. hmmmmm Just saying
10.) Finally, Mr. pResident, Mr. v.pResident, Mr. defense secretary, Madam secretary of state and attorney general Gonzales......will your conscience really let you live in peace to enjoy and splurge the millions you made during this administration???? One thing I KNOW..money buys a lot..but NOT peace of mind...unless you really don't give a damn. Frankly I ........nm...one lassssssssst question.
11.) Are you sure, really really sure you tried and hung the REAL Saddam Hussein??? He did have several almost identical doubles. Nuff said
CNN Quickvote
Do you think George W. Bush is the worst president the United States has elected in modern history?
Yes 81%
No 19%
I would love to see polling done to find out about the 28% Americans that still approve of Bush's job performance have as their background. Who are these people? What is their general education level? Do they have a connection to big corporations and in what way are they connected? Do they watch nothing but FOX news? In what aspect of doing his job is Bush succeeding in?
Assclowns of the Week #69: Omission Accomplished Edition is up if anyone cares.
bitter Edwin Hussein @ 76:
No I think he's the worst president ever and probably one of the worst human beings in the history of humanity. Where's THAT poll?
And what about his IQ? Where's the poll comparing it to cold dog shit because the dog shit would be insulted.
bitter Edwin Hussein @ 73:
I'm with you on that.
77 DC Says: I would love to see polling done to find out about the 28% Americans that still approve of Bush’s job performance have as their background. Who are these people? What is their general education level? Do they have a connection to big corporations and in what way are they connected? Do they watch nothing but FOX news? In what aspect of doing his job is Bush succeeding in?
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Check the malls. People that haven't stopped shopping since 2000 (patriotic duty), and don't even know where the Middle East is. Just keep these consumer goods flowing, damn it!!!! Must... get... more.
When I travel, and I'm bored in the airport, or elsewhere, I play a little game I call "Spot the American". It's way too funny, if you're into it. I've spotted some zingers, let me tell ya. H-O-L-Y!!!!
Tom Tomorrow handles "Elitists".
http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2008/04/28/tomo/
MargeAggedon @ 13:
the left is also doing this to her. notice, not an official mention on here, and the Huffpo has blocked comments.
Daily Reading pt 1...
Cooler Climate Could Prevail in Europe and North America Next Decade: Is Global Warming Over? - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/05/cooler-climate.php
Now, now...before you old polluting energy apologists/Deniers/'skeptics' pee all over yourselves...read the rest of the article....
Keenlyside and his colleagues believe a weakening of the global thermohaline circulation, or ocean conveyor belt, could be to blame for the coming cooling period. Indeed, because ocean currents help transport warm water around different regions of the world, some scientists fear global warming could disrupt -- if not shutdown completely (though that isn't likely) -- this conveyor belt by changing the waters' temperature and salinity.
"We want to make very clear that we don't want to say that [anthropogenic] global warming is not here." He followed up by noting that the cooling trend, if it does occur, will likely only be a baseline natural fluctuation -- one that will have no impact on the prevailing global warming trends.
Gore Investment Vehicle Closes $683m Fund Demonstrating That Green Is Fundamental Finance - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/05/gore-investment-vehicle-closes-6...
Those of you saps that think you should keep your money in old energy...good luck with that...
Solar Thermal Power in North-Africa: How Much Land to Power the World? - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/04/solar-thermal-power-photos-how-m...
This along with geothermal has the most tremendous implications for the new energy age....with wind & hydro right behind them..
Mary, Mary, Too Contrary: Bush crime family ousts top EPA official over Dow Chemical pollution case - http://grist.org/news/2008/05/01/gabe/
Mary Gade, who was appointed by President Bush in 2006, had been tussling with Dow over plans to get the company to clean up extensive dioxin pollution that it dumped into Michigan waterways for decades.
Dow asked EPA headquarters to intervene in the dispute, and top deputies to EPA chief Stephen Johnson repeatedly questioned Gade about the case. Then she was stripped of her authority and told to quit or be fired. "There is no question this is about Dow," Gade said. "I stand behind what I did and what my staff did. I'm proud of what we did."
Water Wars happening NOW: One of History’s Great Atrocities: The Corporate Theft of the Public’s Natural Right to Water: by Ashley Powdar - http://www.coha.org/2008/04/30/one-of-history%e2%80%99s-great-atrocities...
The Growing Debate on who will Control the World’s Water Supply. The current 1.1 billion people worldwide without access to potable water only opens one of the smaller windows on the injustices and the multiple casualties being wrought by private water-related industries.
In fact, many are clueless to the magnitude of the victims — present and projected — of the growing water crisis as well as to the inhumane implications of the role of the private sector in regards to treating water as a commodity that can be owned and sold for profit. As of now, 2.6 billion people are at high risk for not having access to potable and an additional 1.8 million children die each year from water-related diseases.
This will make energy wars look like a Sunday School picnic...
May 2nd Zogby: "Obama Holds Big Lead Over Clinton in NC; Pair tied in Indiana" - http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1495
Obama leads by a 50% to 34% margin over Clinton in North Carolina, while the two are tied at 42% support each in Indiana.
Rush Limbaugh's dittoheads will be voting for Hillary in Indiana's open primary....meanwhile North Carolina's closed primary looks intact for a true vote...
Oops...sorry Mods, didn't mean to bold all of those...
Daily Reading pt 2...
GOP/Republican 'great economy' update, The Bush economy: Since 2000: Oil is up 74% in Euros vs. 237% in U.S. dollars - http://www.chycho.com/?q=oil_us_dollar_euro
The United States is hemorrhaging from every orifice, and oil prices can be used to measure the rapidity of its demise. The increase in price of oil in euros has been 74% since 2000, while it has been a 237% increase in US dollars... and this is just the beginning now that Iran has dumped the US dollar for oil trades
The Gas-Guzzler Gambit - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/opinion/01thu1.html
Senators John McCain and Hillary Rodham Clinton have hit on a new way to pander to American voters: a temporary suspension of the federal gasoline tax between Memorial Day and Labor Day. The proposal may draw applause and votes from Americans feeling the pain of nearly $4-a-gallon gasoline. But it is an expensive and environmentally unsound policy that would do nothing to help American drivers.
Leave aside that suspending the 18.4-cent-a-gallon excise tax would cost the deficit-burdened federal government $9 billion and that turning a tax off in May and on in September would be an administrative nightmare.
Even leave aside that nixing the gas tax would increase demand for gasoline — exactly the wrong response to global warming and rising energy prices. So wrong, in fact, that both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. McCain support policies that would cut carbon emissions and increase the price of energy. (Talk about voting for something before they voted against it.)
The fact is that drivers would, at best, see only the briefest reduction in prices at the pump.
There is not enough oil in Alaska to provide a lasting solution. And Mr. Bush’s prescription would do nothing to address climate change or quench the thirst for oil.
Fortunately, Mr. Obama has not caved to the rising calls for cheap energy and has refused to follow his rivals down this misguided path.
Neither Mrs. Clinton nor Mr. McCain have explained the inconsistency in their positions. We know pandering when we see it. We also know that suspending the gas tax for the summer won’t solve this country’s energy problems or even reduce the price of gas.
Why Wal-Mart Does Not Strengthen Our Economy - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-nassar/why-wal-mart-does-not-str_b_9...
Despite bringing in over $378 billion last year, Wal-Mart repeatedly underpays its American workforce. More than 80 wage & hour lawsuits, including a recently certified class action lawsuit in California, are currently pending against the company. Plus, it faces more than 200 discrimination lawsuits for unfair promotion practices, pay discrepancies and other issues, including the nation's largest workplace gender discrimination lawsuit. By failing to fairly compensate its employees, Wal-Mart cheats states out of income tax revenues.
PLEASE DON'T SHOP/PATRON THERE.....it truly is against your own best interests
D.C. Madam Found Dead in Florida - http://legaltimes.typepad.com/blt/2008/05/woman-believed.html
Police in Tarpon Springs, Fla., are investigating the apparent suicide of convicted D.C. Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey, according to news reports. Her body was found in a shed near her mother’s home this morning. Police say there was a suicide note but would not disclose its contents.....(Why does this sound to me like a Texas Suicide, you know the ones in which the victims stab themselves fourteen times and shoot themselves nine times?)
Someone in the GOP (or their enablers) 'took out' the dirty laundry.....
McCain's (R-Idiot) 'Mission Accomplished' Iraq Speech - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/01/flashback-read-mccains-mi_n_995...
The “McCain standard” and the rise of the Calphalon Candidate - http://www.scholarsandrogues.com/2008/05/01/the-mccain-standard-and-the-...
Maverick is clearly less the straight shooter than he wants us to believe and the nation’s press has no interest in holding him to the same standards it holds his opponents to. Welcome to The McCain Standard.
Brought to you by the Corporate Media (the big 5).....whew...deregulation is just so great!!!
Only 33% Say McCain Has Clear Plan to Solve U.S. Problems - http://www.gallup.com/poll/106837/Only-33-Say-McCain-Has-Clear-Plan-Solv...
The latest USA Today/Gallup update on the presidential candidates' personal characteristics finds a significant decline since March in the percentage of Americans who believe John McCain "has a clear plan for solving the country's problems." Only 33% currently say this, compared with 42% in March… The April poll also finds a decline in perceptions that Clinton is honest, with only 37% describing her in those terms, down from 44% in March.
See...what negative campaigning does...
WaPo editorial: Gas Tax Gotcha; Sen. Obama's courageous stand in favor of fuel conservation - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/30/AR200804...
We have to agree with Sen. Barack Obama, the only candidate who has refused to play this game. "It's not an idea to get you through the summer," he said. "It's an idea to get them through an election." His opponents no doubt hope that Mr. Obama's stand will prove to be political suicide. We think it qualifies as political courage.
IT DOES NOTHING FOR YOU AT THE PUMP - IT ONLY HELPS BIG OIL....
Daily Reading pt 3...
When Will The Corporate Media Require John McCain To Disown The Crazies In His Campaign? - http://arizona.typepad.com/blog/2008/05/when-will-the-n.html
Hagee & Parsley make Charles Manson look stable.... "Agents of Intolerance" turns into "my good friends"...ummm...anyone else smell something....
GOP/Republican McSame/Bush economy Update: 'the number of workers claiming jobless benefits hit a four-year high and planned layoffs soared'
- http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/business/business-usa-economy.html
Clinton Decries China's Acquisition of Indiana Company -- Ignoring Her Husband's Role in the Sale - http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2008/story?id=4757257&page=1
"Poor" ExxonMobil: Company only had a first-quarter profit of $10.89 BILLION - http://triangle.bizjournals.com/triangle/othercities/dallas/stories/2008...
Though their revenue doubled....wonder where all those 'costs' went....hmm....maybe 'executive pay scale & bonuses'....hmm....
650 million years in 94 minutes, A History Channel production on climate is worthwhile - http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/4/29/225946/291
"5 Easy First Steps You Can Do Today" 1. Bring your own bags when you shop 2. Save on electricity (with suggestions) 3. Save on gas (with suggestions) 4. Shop a farmer -- local food 5. Water smarts-- drink tap, not bottled, get a stainless steel bottle.
OK, The U.S. tried living under the rule of a Maniacal Autocrat and it has been a Seven and a half year long disaster to the country. Bread cost three times as much as it did BB (before bush) Gas cost three times as BB along with most other foodstuffs. It's time for Americans to show their Outrage. Sure, they say there are more jobs, but they pay so poorly people have to work two of them to get by and buy their own insurance.
ACT: Even if it's just a simple thing like the lady with the hand-written sign stating "We Want our Democracy Back" !!
calgarylady @ 33:
I think Paul Wellstone and my main man PAT TILLMAN could tell us a thing or two if only they were still breathing. On the last night there will be no dawn!
Interesting...Jon Stewart is rated the 8th most influential political pundit by the Telegraph.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/1919961/The-mo...
liberal jewish american patriots could solve our national crisis in a new york minute.
you don't think if you put michael bloomberg, steven spielberg and larry david in a room together they couldn't crack the case?
*could
(sorry, monitors, double negative violation.)
anyone in favor of making may 1st "international cockroach day", and moving may day to may 2nd?
Bitter for Hussein Obama (aka right wing hater) @ 85:
Indiana Poll Shows Clinton With Big Lead Over Obama
Survey Taker: Pastor Controversy Possibly Big Factor
INDIANAPOLIS -- A statewide poll indicates a dramatic shift of support from Sen. Barack Obama to Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton ahead of next week's Indiana Democratic presidential primary -- a shift that could be explained by a controversy over Obama's ex-pastor, the poll's conductor says.
The survey, conducted by Indianapolis-based TeleResearch Corp. and released exclusively to 6News, showed Clinton with a 10-point lead over Obama in Indiana -- 48 percent to 38 percent -- with 14 percent of respondents undecided.
Rebel Patriot @ 84:
Doesn't surprise me. They label it 'conspiracy', roll their eyes and cluck their tongues at anyone who dares speak of it and pretend they're being reasonable.
Eric said--We are in Iraq fighting a cival war
Sure fella!--more like fighting an invasion that's gone bad. I bet most of the poor--don't care about the poor Arabs--who lost everything--like family members ,jobs,food, health care.Americans are lucky-they got two big oceans to prptect them.
BlueGal - post some of your own analysis for once........
Barbara Walters:
Will you tell us about ALL the affairs you have had, or will you cherry pick & tell us about your bed partners with political & high social connections?
The Hillary camp counted on the Wright controversy and the "bitter" comment in PA. Why is this not being shown to all Indiana voters?
Much worse than bitter.
Janet - what do Mickey Cantor's comments from 1992 have to do with Shillary's current campaign?
Just got back from almost a week in Texass. Nearly six-dollar a pack cigarettes, no smoking in the bars; so much for the "wild, wild West"...
Got to take a long hot shower to get the Shrub State stank off me.
#13: Ron @ 12:
10 MargeAggedon Says: Ron @ 8:
You have to wonder if there is more to this story.
http://www.opednews.com/articl…..22suic.htm
I’ve mentioned it before and I’ll say it here again,
You’ll not convince me it was a suicide.
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They don’t usually mention a suicide letter before the investigation is complete.
The victim also doesn’t often explicitly state that she will probably be killed and it will be made to look like a suicide, and that she would not commit suicide, prior to the event.
She was murdered by people who simply want to avoid a scandal during an election year. They’ll sweep her under their rug and move on."
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One thing bothers me though: If she was so convinced that she would be murdered (which is highly plausible) why didn't she leave the names of her clients with her attorney to be released to the MSM in the event of her death? She may have...we'll have to wait and see, but if she didn't, this bothers me.
Can you imagine if that IS what happens? Cheyney's name has been mentioned which would be delicious. And countless more. What about Bill Clinton?? He he! I can just see the movie rights being considered. And the defendents being frog-marched away in disgrace. I am dribbling and salivating with trepidation.
Can you just see President Hillary Clinton bringing home-baked cookies to prison every morning to visit her husband during "visiting hours"? Wonder of there'd be sniper fire every morning when she arrives, and would she duck her lying fraudulent head each time?
What I want is someone to ask Hillary if she'd pardon President Bush if she was elected president, ala President Ford (who covered up JFK's real assassins' names but that's another story) and has there been a deal that if she agrees to do so, Diebold will help her win?
#98 asks.... what do Mickey Cantor’s comments from 1992 have to do with Shillary’s current campaign.
Guilt by association only works one way? What do Rev Wright's comments have to do with Obama? What do Hagee's comments have to do with McCain? They wanted to play this game.
Rebel Patriot @ 85:
Sure, C&L could have demonstrated their "media watchdog" chops by showing how ridiculous it is for the media to jump to the suicide conclusion before their is an investigation, especially with all of the people that would have liked her silenced; but then you wouldn't have gotten two, count 'em two, Daily Show clips today.
equilibrio @ 108:
So true. ;)
Nobody Asked Me, But...
something very strange
until a few minutes ago the site www.deborahjeanepalfrey.com was up with a list of all phone records,
not only the site went dead, google cached pages disappeared immediately which is very weird as it usually takes a while for google to crawl and update
there is an audio of her telling alex jones on youtube, she says if she is found dead it would be murder. spoooky
found the links to phone lists
http://mises.org/Community/forums/t/2307.aspx
dl them before they disappear
her interview is also posted there
i am surprised your site did not mention her case, in a way i do not blame you.
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