John McCain admits Iraq War was over oil

We're gonna go ahead and report this story, even though we run the risk of the GOP suing us for "taking McCain's quotes out of context." </snark> At a town hall meeting today, Senator McCain made a stunning admission when he announced that his energy policy would aim to reduce our dependence on Middle East oil, which would in turn ensure that we never have to fight another war there again.

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"My friends, I will have an energy policy which will eliminate our dependence on oil from Middle East that will then prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East."

Think about how amazing this is. McCain is essentially saying that our quest to "spread democracy" throughout the Middle East is a sham. It has nothing to do with freeing oppressed people, or protecting Israel, or defending ourselves against future attacks. It's about gaining control of foreign oil. Stunning. Will this get any significant media play?

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Tweety gets this exactly right:

"You know, if somebody else were to say that, they would be accused of being a communist, or radical, or a leftist...for John McCain, a war hero, to say that we're fighting in the Middle East to protect our oil sources is an astounding development."



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When he starts off with My friends, I cringe... and make sure I can't bend over.

Whoops! And how many dead and wounded US troops thought they were fighting for democracy and freedom? How many dead, wounded and displaced Iraqis have had to suffer so that the US could control their oil?

Can Mr. 100 Years put a price tag on that?

McDickhead's plan is to suck all the oil out of the ground in 100 years...thats why he wants the troops to stay there...no more oil = no more war.

McBush Wants YOU to fight for Exxon.

Dumb-ass republicans have been used and abused and still will cling to "they hate us for our freedom".

I'm betting McCain claims tomarrow that he was talking about the Gulf War.

That's the first intelligent statement that I've heard out of McCain in quite some time!

Consider yourself subpoenaed.

War hero? Did he save a platoon or something?

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

Barrett D @ 9:

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

That's some heavy nuance there.

The fact is, and most of the public knows it, we started this war for oil. End of discussion. Republicans don't do nuance, remember?

Now watch the spin machine go into overtime! The Democrats would be wise to use this sound bite. But look at the bigger picture. Mccain is going to make gaffes klike this time and time again. He is a lot older, and slow on the uptake. It is only a matter of time before he stumbles again.

Barrett D @ 9:

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

Oh please. Iraqis can barely feed themselves since we leveled the place.

What is my definition of hell?

Getting eight years of Chimpy's frat boy smirks....followed by four years of McSame repeatingly saying "my friends."

An "astounding development" that Chrissy boy will start re-framing by tomorrow.

If he says "My Friends" one more time I'll bust a blood vessel in my forehead.

HDon @ 8:

War hero? Did he save a platoon or something?

I heard he wiped out a whole nest of enemy fighters, then jumped on a grenade to save his comrades.

Wasn't that it?

i'm just saying regardless of why america went to war, it is a valid point right now that it is indeed in americas interest to keep oil out of the hands of its enemies.

which should not be seen as an apology. the white house is completely responsible for this situation.

There is a clip of bush someowhere saying that "we must end our dependence on middle eastern oil, because the people in that region don;t like us being there" (paraphrasing)

And why did we go to Vietnam?

In the 1920's an insider secret became known to a few people. It was published in an exhaustive world resources survey book written by a renowned world-traveling geologist named Hoover, who later became a US President. Not many copies were printed and few people read the book. The secret was that one of the world's largest potential oil fields ran along the coast of the South China Sea right off French Indo-China, now known as Viet Nam.

Leslie [Hussein] @ 12:

Oh please. Iraqis can barely feed themselves since we leveled the place.

I think they were having to import food even before we made things worse by leveling the place (Anyone remember the "Oil for Food" program that Saddam was accused of stealing billions of dollars from over a period of a decade? A trillion dollars for a war makes that look like petty graft).

It's a good thing McCain's not black, because then he'd have people falling over themselves talking about how the government would never do such a thing.

If anyone didn't know that the invasion was for control of oil they would have to be dumber than a box of rocks.

Barrett D @ 9:

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

Kind of like when we left Vietnam and the nation of Vietnam continued attacking America for decades.

I know..I know... this time is different. The Vietnamese were Asian and the Iraqis are, oh my god, scary Arabs.

He's been doing a great job with the DNC Ads that have been running. I can't wait to see what can do with this Doozy:

McCain say's we are in the Middle East just for Oil.

Watch the video:

My friends, I will have an energy policy that we will be talking about, which will eliminate our dependence on oil from the Middle East that will - that will then prevent us - that will prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East.

So in other words, once we are energy independent, those crazy bastards over there in the Middle East can just kill themselves and we can go about not giving two shits just like Darfur and Rowanda.

I can't wait to see Howard Dean beat McCain over the head with this one.

Here's the YouTube version for dissemination:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzwboGFXrVg

CD @ 5:

I'm betting McCain claims tomarrow that he was talking about the Gulf War.

He already did. On the plane after the McFuckup. Dana Gash (Blinky) on CNN said it about an hour ago. McCain said he was talking about the "Gulf War". You hit the nail on the head but McCan't was quicker than you thought. One of his handlers obviously gave him the tip.

Ron @ 21:

If anyone didn't know that the invasion was for control of oil they would have to be dumber than a box of rocks.

Be careful there, you're stepping on the toes of a lotta troop supporters with that one. They just might smack you around with their magnetic ribbons for such crazy talk.

Barrett D @ 17:

i'm just saying regardless of why america went to war, it is a valid point right now that it is indeed in americas interest to keep oil out of the hands of its enemies.

which should not be seen as an apology. the white house is completely responsible for this situation.

Iraqis have a right to their oil. We don't. And when did the Iraqi people become our enemies?

Leslie [Hussein] @ 2:

Whoops! And how many dead and wounded US troops thought they were fighting for democracy and freedom? How many dead, wounded and displaced Iraqis have had to suffer so that the US could control their oil?

Can Mr. 100 Years put a price tag on that?

How many families thought that their kids died to "Keep Us Free" when it was always about the oil! How f***ing sad!

Captain Bitter Elitist Hussein Kangaroo @ 24:

CD @ 5:

I'm betting McCain claims tomarrow that he was talking about the Gulf War.

He already did. On the plane after the McFuckup. Dana Gash (Blinky) on CNN said it about an hour ago. McCain said he was talking about the "Gulf War". You hit the nail on the head but McCan't was quicker than you thought. One of his handlers obviously gave him the tip.

Probably Lieberman.

I feel like that sidekick of Jon Stewart some time ago.

"Ka-BOOM!! IN YOUR FACE!!

Must be off his meds.

Tweety is going to get into this statement by McShithead right after the break. Check it out.

sharkcellar @ 25:

Ron @ 21:

If anyone didn't know that the invasion was for control of oil they would have to be dumber than a box of rocks.

Be careful there, you're stepping on the toes of a lotta troop supporters with that one. They just might smack you around with their magnetic ribbons for such crazy talk.

Let me borrow a phrase from GWB. Bring em on!

Can McCain spin his way out of this one? Think of what our allies are thinking. The whole rational for the war was bogus. This is stunning. Can we impeach now?

war hero my ass..

Barrett D @ 9:

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

We've already been through the scenario of Al Queda getting a hold of Iraq's oil and selling it on the World market and it's a load of bull****.

Does this mean Pelosi will finally put impeachment on the table?

And that man is NOT my friend! (we haven't dated since high school)

Yeah Ruthless People, IMPEACH NOW!

P.D. @ 38:

Yeah Ruthless People, IMPEACH NOW!

Won't happen.

Peak oil is a farse, while Sadam was in Power ( a puppet for USS) the main goal was to keep Iraq and Iran's Oil off the market to keep prices high. Opec is a monopoly the British set up after ww2, all monies going to Saudi Arabia is actually the kingpin of the world, You know the ones who own the banks Rothhchild and the queen of england, Barbara Bush is somehow related to the crown of england in whatever the case the top enchelon is not hard to figure out. McCains remarks to 100 year war has to do with limiting Venzula oil and eventually Russia, who actually has the most oil in the world, but being that they are Communist the people of that country would never know, so it is mostly setting dorcid for same reason Iraq's Oil is not suppose to flow.

Tweety gets this exactly right:

“You know, if somebody else were to say that, they would be accused of being a communist, or radical, or a leftist…for John McCain, a war hero, to say that we’re fighting in the Middle East to protect our oil sources is an astounding development.”

Why is Matthews using the lame phrasing.. if somebody else were to say that...
If he had got it exactly right he would've called out McCain directly for what this makes him: a war-mongering tyrant!

And watch for McSpin's awsome explanations in the coming days.. "but i meant the 1st Iraq War.. MY FRIENDS!!!" ;)

Rusty Shackleford @ 16:

HDon @ 8:

War hero? Did he save a platoon or something?

I heard he wiped out a whole nest of enemy fighters, then jumped on a grenade to save his comrades.

Wasn't that it?

I think taking five years of torture without telling the captors everything he knew about everything would be enough to merit some respect for his war service. Personally, if somebody were bending my fingers back I'd tell 'em whatever they wanted - but I'm a wimp, so that's not really saying much.

I think there's enough evidence that McCain has either been bribed, brain-washed or blackmailed (possibly water-boarded) into submission by the extreme radicals of the neo-con movement and while he may have once been a "war-hero" he is now a ridiculous and dangerous "war-monger" who has abandoned any shred of credibility.

Can't wait to see the media gulp down a big ol' bucket of turd-blossom spin on this admission though. Should be interesting to watch them squirm away from this.

Saw a great bumpersticker the other day:

How did our oil get under their sand?

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I know Leslie, but I can dream can I.

This idiot has gone along with the murderous gang occupying the white house and would pull the gold from his grammie's teeth if it meant wealth in his pocket. Where the fuck was he before the invasion of Iraq? If he knew it was for oil why didn't he speak out. Because he is a coward. He has always been an opportunist and a coward. He is a shell of a human being, a living corpse kept alive by greed and narcicism. Because of people like McCain the toll of human suffering has risen a thousand fold. An Iraqi parent holding the maimed and shattered body of their child has McCain and others who could have spoken out, but didn't, to blame. And the thousands of parents and loved ones of our troops have McCain to thank for their loss. If he thinks he will be president of our United States he is mistaken.

That theory about Iraq becoming a safe haven for Al Queda reminds me a lot of the Domino Theory. If one South East Asian country falls to communism; they will use it as a platform to export communism to the rest of South East Asia.

You would think at a certain point these morons would come up with new propaganda.

Barrett D @ 9:

as far as i can tell mccain did not say the war in iraq was started because of oil. he is very correct though that american troops are staying in iraq because of oil. this is actually a valid concern, because america has now made many enemies in iraq and to leave iraq and risk handing control of oil to them will give them a source of wealth to fund attacks against america. but you reap what you sew, eh?

Since he said, "... will then prevent us from having ever to send our young men and women into conflict again in the Middle East” (emphasis added), that does confuse things, as we keep "sending" them every day. However, the interpretation of this that "send" implied "in the first place" is perfectly logical (not to say you said it wasn't), and it would be a stretch to say such an interpretation would be a matter of "taking it out of context" (although I don't have the context, which would really have to be crafty to set this up as such).

In any case, this does deserve a "McWow: that's fudged up."

At the same time, I'm gonna hafta go ahead and respectfully take issue with saying "Tweety gets this exactly right:" SilentPatriot. If someone else said this, they'd be called a leftist is exactly right? Although that may be the case, I dunno, it sounds like a backhanded remark to me, especially considering Tweety contrasts it with, "... for John McCain, the war hero, to be saying... ? (emphasis added)" WTF? Those are supposed to be diametrically opposed or something? If that's what he's insinuating, he can go fudge himself... again.

And I thought our reputation was already tattered. Just wait what the world thinks of us now.

I have to say that Tweety gave it a good shot just now. He really pinned this on McShame. Of course he brought out the Re. Wright card right afterward. Putz.

P.D. @ 48:

And I thought our reputation was already tattered. Just wait what the world thinks of us now.

The world has known for years. Kofi Annan could barely call the war illegal. The coalition of the "willing" went along. They've all known.

Don't be fooled again @ 40:

Peak oil is a farse, while Sadam was in Power ( a puppet for USS) the main goal was to keep Iraq and Iran's Oil off the market to keep prices high. Opec is a monopoly the British set up after ww2, all monies going to Saudi Arabia is actually the kingpin of the world, You know the ones who own the banks Rothhchild and the queen of england, Barbara Bush is somehow related to the crown of england in whatever the case the top enchelon is not hard to figure out. McCains remarks to 100 year war has to do with limiting Venzula oil and eventually Russia, who actually has the most oil in the world, but being that they are Communist the people of that country would never know, so it is mostly setting dorcid for same reason Iraq's Oil is not suppose to flow.

?

I can see the rest of the world saying "stupid Americans".

I Like Pie @ 46:

That theory about Iraq becoming a safe haven for Al Queda reminds me a lot of the Domino Theory. If one South East Asian country falls to communism; they will use it as a platform to export communism to the rest of South East Asia.

You would think at a certain point these morons would come up with new propaganda.

You'd think at some point we wouldn't vote in morons!

Stupid Git @ 42:

Rusty Shackleford @ 16:

HDon @ 8:

War hero? Did he save a platoon or something?

I heard he wiped out a whole nest of enemy fighters, then jumped on a grenade to save his comrades.

Wasn't that it?

I think taking five years of torture without telling the captors everything he knew about everything would be enough to merit some respect for his war service.

Stupid (you don't mind if I use your first name do you?), How do you know that? How could you know that?

Yeah, your right Leslie, but it was so blantant. I mean, to just come out and say it like that is amazing. I'm still stunned.

policy = ANWR

P.D. @ 55:

Yeah, your right Leslie, but it was so blantant. I mean, to just come out and say it like that is amazing. I'm still stunned.

Brain infarction or Alzheimer's.

Whichever war he meant, McCain seems to imply that its all about oil.

Because he said "ever again" meaning as long as the US is not dependent on ME oil there will be no wars in the ME? Kinda contradicts the whole democracy/al Qaeda story

We really need to cool it on the use of the hero word. Most everyone has become a hero. A soldier goes to Iraq where he serves as a cook in the Green Zone, and he's hailed as a hero when he comes home. A four-star general (Colin Powell) serves in the Pentagon during the first Gulf War, and he's hailed as a gulf war hero? Did he throw himself on an exploding computer in the Pentagon thereby saving the lives of his fellow generals? No, don't think so. John McCain a war hero? Hmmmm, kinda a tough one. Maybe, maybe not. A little bit of a hero if he was in solitary confinement in a tiny dirty cell for 6 years. A whole lot of a hero if he had been tortured unto death without giving any information. Not that 99.9% of us could keep silent, but if one did one would be correctly termed a hero. Charge into a burning building to save children, people, puppies or kittens, you're a hero. In a hail of fire killing your fellow soldiers you pick up a machine gun and charge head on into the fire of two overlapping machine gun nests, and by the grace of God or luck, you kill both machine gun crews -- YOU'RE A HERO!

ALzheimers? Well that's reassuring. Kind of like Reagan in the later years except more terrifing.

What does crazy Lou Dobbs have to say about it, or is he still slamming illegals?

Jo @ 45:

This idiot has gone along with the murderous gang occupying the white house and would pull the gold from his grammie's teeth if it meant wealth in his pocket. Where the fuck was he before the invasion of Iraq? If he knew it was for oil why didn't he speak out. Because he is a coward. He has always been an opportunist and a coward. He is a shell of a human being, a living corpse kept alive by greed and narcicism. Because of people like McCain the toll of human suffering has risen a thousand fold. An Iraqi parent holding the maimed and shattered body of their child has McCain and others who could have spoken out, but didn't, to blame. And the thousands of parents and loved ones of our troops have McCain to thank for their loss. If he thinks he will be president of our United States he is mistaken.

Bravo. Well spoken.

Rufus @ 59:

We really need to cool it on the use of the hero word. Most everyone has become a hero. A soldier goes to Iraq where he serves as a cook in the Green Zone, and he's hailed as a hero when he comes home. A four-star general (Colin Powell) serves in the Pentagon during the first Gulf War, and he's hailed as a gulf war hero? Did he throw himself on an exploding computer in the Pentagon thereby saving the lives of his fellow generals? No, don't think so. John McCain a war hero? Hmmmm, kinda a tough one. Maybe, maybe not. A little bit of a hero if he was in solitary confinement in a tiny dirty cell for 6 years. A whole lot of a hero if he had been tortured unto death without giving any information. Not that 99.9% of us could keep silent, but if one did one would be correctly termed a hero. Charge into a burning building to save children, people, puppies or kittens, you're a hero. In a hail of fire killing your fellow soldiers you pick up a machine gun and charge head on into the fire of two overlapping machine gun nests, and by the grace of God or luck, you kill both machine gun crews -- YOU'RE A HERO!

As Thom Hartmann would say; Well said!!!

Leslie [Hussein] @ 2:

Whoops! And how many dead and wounded US troops thought they were fighting for democracy and freedom? How many dead, wounded and displaced Iraqis have had to suffer so that the US could control their oil?

Can Mr. 100 Years put a price tag on that?

pricetag?

you pick...

$1 trillion
4040+ confirmed US deaths (counting Iraq in-country deaths only)
10's of thousands of wounded military
100's of thousands of mentally tormented military
over 6,000 US troop suicides per year (do the math on a 100 year occupation)
up to 1 million Iraqi civilians killed
up to 3-4 million Iraqi's displaced as external or internal refugees
countless millions poisoned from depleted uranium exposure.

need anymore?

Rebel Patriot @ 64:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 2:

Whoops! And how many dead and wounded US troops thought they were fighting for democracy and freedom? How many dead, wounded and displaced Iraqis have had to suffer so that the US could control their oil?

Can Mr. 100 Years put a price tag on that?

pricetag?

you pick...

$1 trillion
4040+ confirmed US deaths (counting Iraq in-country deaths only)
10's of thousands of wounded military
100's of thousands of mentally tormented military
over 6,000 US troop suicides per year (do the math on a 100 year occupation)
up to 1 million Iraqi civilians killed
up to 3-4 million Iraqi's displaced as external or internal refugees
countless millions poisoned from depleted uranium exposure.

need anymore?

Yeah, but I want McCain to say it! The a**hole.

Rebel Patriot @ 64:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 2:

Whoops! And how many dead and wounded US troops thought they were fighting for democracy and freedom? How many dead, wounded and displaced Iraqis have had to suffer so that the US could control their oil?

Can Mr. 100 Years put a price tag on that?

pricetag?

you pick...

$1 trillion
4040+ confirmed US deaths (counting Iraq in-country deaths only)
10's of thousands of wounded military
100's of thousands of mentally tormented military
over 6,000 US troop suicides per year (do the math on a 100 year occupation)
up to 1 million Iraqi civilians killed
up to 3-4 million Iraqi's displaced as external or internal refugees
countless millions poisoned from depleted uranium exposure.

need anymore?

How about the increased profits made by the big oil from the massive increases in per barrel price, due mostly because of this fiasco. Doesn't matter how you slice it, this was about increasing oil profits, not just stealing Iraqi oil.

THIS will work out good for mcwhsitle. the media will credit him with having the "courage" to tell us how it is. and he'll get a pass on being a cheerleader for this quagmire. has anyone noticed he sounds like the gopher in that winnie the pooh cartoon?

Let's face it folks, We (almost everybody that comes to C&L) knew this all along. But the idiots, the 26% Moron Factor wont hear about this unless FOX airs it.

Has FOX aired this piece? I doubt it, but then I can't get FOX here unless I stream it.
Does Anyone know if this has been on FOX?

... oil, and in order to bring Jesus back... Don't forget that part.

ConcernedCanuck @ 66:

Rebel Patriot @ 64:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 2:

Whoops! And how many dead and wounded US troops thought they were fighting for democracy and freedom? How many dead, wounded and displaced Iraqis have had to suffer so that the US could control their oil?

Can Mr. 100 Years put a price tag on that?

pricetag?

you pick...

$1 trillion
4040+ confirmed US deaths (counting Iraq in-country deaths only)
10's of thousands of wounded military
100's of thousands of mentally tormented military
over 6,000 US troop suicides per year (do the math on a 100 year occupation)
up to 1 million Iraqi civilians killed
up to 3-4 million Iraqi's displaced as external or internal refugees
countless millions poisoned from depleted uranium exposure.

need anymore?

How about the increased profits made by the big oil from the massive increases in per barrel price, due mostly because of this fiasco. Doesn't matter how you slice it, this was about increasing oil profits, not just stealing Iraqi oil.

them's pretty good profits for a modest investment of only 3000 lives, 3 buildings, and 4 airplanes. oh, and throw in some diminished constitutional liberties and protections while your at it.

Like I said, John McCain has PDS and seem to be showing sgin of early stages of Alzheimer

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Lets not be niave we all know that the US has oil interests in Iraq. However so does the rest of the world. It is not our fault that area has the majority of the oil that is required for the rest of the to fuction properly. Those countries have an obligation to the entire world to be fair with the resources we all need. Just like the US has the obligation to export Humanitarian aid, give loans despite our debt, and afford everyone in the world the oppurtunity to take advantage of the freedoms we promote in our country. Saddam Hussein was a bad guy and deserved to die. We had every right to go in there because they violated the agreement that we made wtih them after the first gulf war which was to let inspectors in to look for WMDs. They didn't do that so we kicked their ass which we had the legal right to do under U.N. law. As far as the WMD's are concerned I was there and we found evidence of production, but since we allowed them 15 yrs to hide and transport them out of the country moslt likely Syria and Jordan ended up with them. What McCain stated was that we would no longer have to go to the middle east as long as us along with all the other Western countries would have an ally beside Israel in the Mid East. Remember we are not the only ones with hopes of an Iraq democracy. The people of Iraq along with all of Europe wnat it too; so easy up on your motherland she's doing the best she can.

ConcernedCanuck @ 66:

Rebel Patriot @ 64:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 2:

Whoops! And how many dead and wounded US troops thought they were fighting for democracy and freedom? How many dead, wounded and displaced Iraqis have had to suffer so that the US could control their oil?

Can Mr. 100 Years put a price tag on that?

pricetag?

you pick...

$1 trillion
4040+ confirmed US deaths (counting Iraq in-country deaths only)
10's of thousands of wounded military
100's of thousands of mentally tormented military
over 6,000 US troop suicides per year (do the math on a 100 year occupation)
up to 1 million Iraqi civilians killed
up to 3-4 million Iraqi's displaced as external or internal refugees
countless millions poisoned from depleted uranium exposure.

need anymore?

How about the increased profits made by the big oil from the massive increases in per barrel price, due mostly because of this fiasco. Doesn't matter how you slice it, this was about increasing oil profits, not just stealing Iraqi oil.

I'm shocked...you mean the same people who helped Bush steal win the White House are now reaping huge profits from an illegal war to control the world's oil supply to uh prevent nonexistent WMD from falling into the wrong hands?

This will get no press coverage.The media gives him a pass any chance they get.I'm so tired of this drill
Peace, jason

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 68:

Let's face it folks, We (almost everybody that comes to C&L) knew this all along. But the idiots, the 26% Moron Factor wont hear about this unless FOX airs it.

Has FOX aired this piece? I doubt it, but then I can't get FOX here unless I stream it.
Does Anyone know if this has been on FOX?

I think they are still on the reverand thing.

All the Dead and blind from the day of the idea of a war new that "OIL" was the major reason. Do you really think the American people are surprised, or do you peole think we are studpid. Oh such such hypocrits.

When Ms Clinton won Pa by two double digits did you think anyone who had any brains believed it?

Do you think that anyone in their right mind believes that the race for IN and Caroline is very close. Someone is at work doing some dirty underhanded stuff.

She's not close in either state. Oh but the powers that be.

Captain Bitter Elitist Hussein Kangaroo @ 54:

Stupid Git @ 42:

I think taking five years of torture without telling the captors everything he knew about everything would be enough to merit some respect for his war service.

Stupid (you don't mind if I use your first name do you?), How do you know that? How could you know that?

That's exactly what I was wondering.

McCain the Liar @ 52:

I can see the rest of the world saying "stupid Americans".

"stupid Americans".....isn't that redundant?

War for oil? What a non-surprise. I suppose the icing on this cake will be the fulfillment of the promise to "obliterate Iran." Seems that at least 2 out of 3 candidates are comitted to making something like that happen. Makes one think it's foretold.

Ron @ 21:

If anyone didn't know that the invasion was for control of oil they would have to be dumber than a box of rocks.

George Bush

Dumb as a rock only dumber.

nan @ 75:

All the Dead and blind from the day of the idea of a war new that "OIL" was the major reason. Do you really think the American people are surprised, or do you peole think we are studpid. Oh such such hypocrits.

When Ms Clinton won Pa by two double digits did you think anyone who had any brains believed it?

Do you think that anyone in their right mind believes that the race for IN and Caroline is very close. Someone is at work doing some dirty underhanded stuff.

She's not close in either state. Oh but the powers that be.

Holy non-sequiturs, Batman!

Hey, so what's his energy plan? Or is it a secret like Nixon's plan to end the war in Vietnam?

oh please tweety quit acting so brand new... you are a grown man with an (alleged) functioning brain... you knew EXACTLY why the hell we went over there... WMD=BULL! your 5+ years of cognitive dissonance has not been a pretty sight in the slightest... go suck on a codpiece

Rico @ 78:

War for oil? What a non-surprise. I suppose the icing on this cake will be the fulfillment of the promise to "obliterate Iran." Seems that at least 2 out of 3 candidates are comitted to making something like that happen. Makes one think it's foretold.

Rico ... You from the Bay Area?

Rico @ 78:

War for oil? What a non-surprise. I suppose the icing on this cake will be the fulfillment of the promise to "obliterate Iran." Seems that at least 2 out of 3 candidates are comitted to making something like that happen. Makes one think it's foretold.

Remember, that war wouldn't become about oil until after we invade.*

*tortured logic of a war-mongerer apologist.

Wes @ 79:

Ron @ 21:

If anyone didn't know that the invasion was for control of oil they would have to be dumber than a box of rocks.

George Bush

Dumb as a rock only dumber.

Actually, he and the men he surrounded himself with, if looked through the lens of a criminal, are quite effective and intelligent.

The problem most people have is that they view these psychopaths with their own concept of right/wrong.

they aren't playing by you paradigm.

marys_botox_needle @ 82:

oh please tweety quit acting so brand new... you are a grown man with an (alleged) functioning brain... you knew EXACTLY why the hell we went over there... WMD=BULL! your 5+ years of cognitive dissonance has not been a pretty sight in the slightest... go suck on a codpiece

He's still trying to gin up the same man-crush for the war hero John McCain. Matthews will get some credit from me right after he apologizes for all the water he's carried for this administration and commits hara-kiri on his show.

And McCain + warhero is also used because he has an (R) after his name.

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 83:

Rico @ 78:

War for oil? What a non-surprise. I suppose the icing on this cake will be the fulfillment of the promise to "obliterate Iran." Seems that at least 2 out of 3 candidates are comitted to making something like that happen. Makes one think it's foretold.

Rico ... You from the Bay Area?

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 83:

Rico @ 78:

War for oil? What a non-surprise. I suppose the icing on this cake will be the fulfillment of the promise to "obliterate Iran." Seems that at least 2 out of 3 candidates are comitted to making something like that happen. Makes one think it's foretold.

Rico ... You from the Bay Area?

No...Balto-DC area. You can recognize us because we're the ones with the biggest f****** target on our backs.

I'm glad this is being discussed in prime time today on the press, MSNBC. I hope it kills his chance for election. Americans don't want blood for oil. This needs to be replayed on YouTube until November.

marys_botox_needle @ 82:

oh please tweety quit acting so brand new... you are a grown man with an (alleged) functioning brain... you knew EXACTLY why the hell we went over there... WMD=BULL! your 5+ years of cognitive dissonance has not been a pretty sight in the slightest... go suck on a codpiece

The surprise isn't that we went to war for oil (and daddy's rep), but that the elephant in the room just came so close to saying so explicitly.

This is not to say that I disagree with your sentiments toward Tweety. He did seem to use his surprise at the fact that it was said to imply he was surprised that anyone might think we went to war for oil.

Sorry for the long post but there are plenty of other quotes in which they are perfectly honest that the oil is very important. Bush has also said that it would fall into the hands of AQ or some other terrorist organization.

"The good Lord didn't see fit to put oil and gas only where there are democratically elected regimes friendly to the United States. Occasionally we have to operate in places where, all things considered, one would not normally choose to go. But, we go where the business is." Dick Cheney
Collateral Damage Conference, Cato Institute June 23, 1998
http://www.cato.org/speeches/sp-dc062398.html

The U.S. has an enormous stake in the Persion Gulf because of oil Mar. 1994 Paul Wolfowitz
"The United States and the entire industrialized world have an enormous stake in the security of the Persian Gulf, not primarily in order to save a few dollars per gallon of gasoline but rather because a hostile regime in control of those resources could wreak untold damage on the world's economy, and could apply that wealth to purposes that would endanger peace globally." Wolfowitz concludes, "Given this permanent stake in the security of the Persian Gulf, the Gulf War provided an opportunity to base security on a foundation of credible commitment by the United States and its coalition partners."

Reagan on Defending American Oil Interests in the Gulf
Nov. 26, 1983
Reagan"...we should assign the highest priority to access arrangements which would facilitate the rapid deployment of those forces necessary to defend the critical oil facilities..."

Dick Cheney, USA Vice-President speaking in 1990:
"Whoever controls the flow of Persian Gulf oil has a stranglehold not only on our economy but also on the other countries of the world as well."

"OIL IS MUCH TOO IMPORTANT A COMMODITY TO BE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF THE ARABS."
Henry Kissinger

[Iraqis] know we own their country...It's a good thing, especially when there's a lot of oil out there we need.
~U.S. Brig. General William Looney

[Iraqis] know we own their country. We own their airspace... We dictate the way they live and talk. And that's what's great about America right now.
~U.S. Brig. General William Looney

"Along with Latin America, West Africa is expected to be one of the fastest-growing sources of oil and gas for the American market." ---->OFFICE OF VP DICK CHENEY,
MAY 16th, 2001

"By 2010 we will need [a further] 50 million barrels a day. The Middle East, with two-thirds of the oil and the lowest cost, is still where the prize lies." - US Vice President Dick Cheney, then Halliburton chief executive officer, London, autumn 1999

And of course the neocons sent Clinton that letter in which they say a large amount of oil could fall into the hands of the enemies. I have constantly said that if there was no oil then a lot of interest in the middle-east would quickly vanish.

Rico @ 88:

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 83:

Rico @ 78:

War for oil? What a non-surprise. I suppose the icing on this cake will be the fulfillment of the promise to "obliterate Iran." Seems that at least 2 out of 3 candidates are comitted to making something like that happen. Makes one think it's foretold.

Rico ... You from the Bay Area?

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 83:

Rico @ 78:

War for oil? What a non-surprise. I suppose the icing on this cake will be the fulfillment of the promise to "obliterate Iran." Seems that at least 2 out of 3 candidates are comitted to making something like that happen. Makes one think it's foretold.

Rico ... You from the Bay Area?

No...Balto-DC area. You can recognize us because we're the ones with the biggest f****** target on our backs.

Hmmmm ... smart and humor to boot. Right on Rico.

I'd rephrase my above "anyone" with "anyone who isn't 'the bad guys.'"

Jackpot!

How hard will it be to defeat that wishy washy man?
Then again they will turn this around and make it look like McCain has principles for "revealing" the actual purpose of the war.

P.D. @ 61:

What does crazy Lou Dobbs have to say about it, or is he still slamming illegals?

Lou Dobbs is a dick.

Any one who thinks this war was for oil is a tin foil hat wearing loonatic.

It was about 911 - AND DON'T FUCKING FORGET IT!
It was about he gassed his own people!
It was about rape rooms and
TORTURE!

He had weapons of mass distruction.
Ties to Alqyda
Ties to 911
He was a very bad man and the world is so much better now that we hung this awful evil man that threatened the whole world.

Operation Iraqi Liberation was never about oil.

Besides he tried to buy YELLOW CAKE for God's sake and wee just couldn't let him have that.

Leaveus @ 98:

Besides he tried to buy YELLOW CAKE for God's sake and wee just couldn't let him have that.

Yeah, he should have asked for the chocolate.

Has anyone stopped to think--with Hillary constantly posing slamming drinks back with "the boys"--what message she is sending to young people, ie., you have to drink to be popular?

And what "intern-friendly" Bill back in the White House does to efforts to promote teen responsible sex?

Can we please get this right? Most of the time the YouTube links don't work if you try to view them on the page rather than opening another YouTube window and then half the time the videos take forever to open and then say they are done when nothings been shown. We could do better with just links if it's a traffic problem, but the YouTube situation is clearly not. C'mon.

McCain admits the obvious? What? Am I suppose to be impressed by this? Am I suddenly suppose to think this is a big heroic thing for McCain to do? BTW, what the fuck does he have as a plan to, you know, actually get that fucking oil monkey off our backs.... Let me guess, drill ANWR for the drop or two that this will get us...PFFT!! Is he planning to put real R&D money into alternatives, renewable alternatives.. Motherfucker probably doesn't even know what that means. He might think corn is the answer as long as someone told him to think that... but its not!Fuck that....fuck him! He's an old man who sold his soul for a chance to be the neocons latest empty suit proxy offered up to the wh to spout platitudes and make everyone feel all warm and fuzzy as these bastards continue to suck the life out of this nation and put us and our children and our childrens children in backbreaking debt pretty much for the rest of this century at least.. All over some bullshit neocon wetdream of perpetuating some kind of sick American world dominance with rich republican fuckheads at the top of this foodchain, as if that's ever worked out anyway ... Fuck him, and fuck tweety and his newest mancrush... I'm sick of this same ol same ol shit! JD

Leaveus @ 97:

Any one who thinks this war was for oil is a tin foil hat wearing loonatic.

It was about 911 - AND DON'T FUCKING FORGET IT!
It was about he gassed his own people!
It was about rape rooms and
TORTURE!

He had weapons of mass distruction.
Ties to Alqyda
Ties to 911
He was a very bad man and the world is so much better now that we hung this awful evil man that threatened the whole world.

Operation Iraqi Liberation was never about oil.

We sold him the gas to do it.
Whose rape rooms and torture chambers were/are better: His or ours?
Oh, yes the invisible WMD. Wonder if we'll ever find those?
You mean the al Qaeda in Pakistan?
Yes, Saddam was a very bad man. There are so many of them.

McBush! joined at the hip.

Leslie [Hussein] @ 26:

Barrett D @ 17:

i'm just saying regardless of why america went to war, it is a valid point right now that it is indeed in americas interest to keep oil out of the hands of its enemies.

which should not be seen as an apology. the white house is completely responsible for this situation.

Iraqis have a right to their oil. We don't. And when did the Iraqi people become our enemies?

Rusty Shackleford @ 16:

HDon @ 8:

War hero? Did he save a platoon or something?

I heard he wiped out a whole nest of enemy fighters, then jumped on a grenade to save his comrades.

Wasn't that it?

the day bush stoled the 2000 election?

Leaveus @ 97:

Any one who thinks this war was for oil is a tin foil hat wearing loonatic.

It was about 911 - AND DON'T FUCKING FORGET IT!
It was about he gassed his own people!

Holy non-sequiturs and ridiculously-phrased-sentences, Batman!

BoilThemInTheirOil @ 6:

That's the first intelligent statement that I've heard out of McCain in quite some time!

I would have phrased it a little bit differently: That's the first truthful statement that I've heard out of McCain in quite some time!

Leaveus @ 98:

Besides he tried to buy YELLOW CAKE for God's sake and wee just couldn't let him have that.

Chocolate cake is so much better; anybody that likes yellow cake is definitely a douche-bag.

To 97

It was definitely not about 911 and don't you and your kind ever forget that moron.

It was about the fucking oil, anyone with half a brain knows that by now. Nice try troll.

Or what "intern-friendly" Bill back in the White House would do to efforts to promote abstinence, or even responsible sex, among teenagers?

tweedy is still full of it. He says over and over Obama nationality is only African-American Kenyan, to him a Black is a Black is a Black. Then I read the caption under some fellow's name it read "Can Obama Get Pass Wright." (Close enough)

No tweedy! CAN YOU GET PASS WRIGHT?
Asshole.

Obama has a very level head. His (WHITE) grandmother is remarkable. His up-bringing is amazing. He is what we need now. He is a PROUD American. He's is really too good for the assholes who will reap the same benefits.
No more dummies in the WH.

I want the US to be great and proud like its never has been.

Leaveus @ 97: I see Elmer's Glue paste is still affordable.

Then Operation Iraqi Liberation turned into Operation Clusterfuck!

Bitter Jerry @ 109:

To 97

It was definitely not about 911 and don't you and your kind ever forget that moron.

It was about the fucking oil, anyone with half a brain knows that by now. Nice try troll.

I think you missed the sarcasm.

Operation Iraqi Liberation

O I L

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OIL - LOL
It was about that he attacked our country in a viciouos act of cowerdous.

NINE ELEVIN.
Simple.

Rebel Patriot @ 113:

Bitter Jerry @ 109:

To 97

It was definitely not about 911 and don't you and your kind ever forget that moron.

It was about the fucking oil, anyone with half a brain knows that by now. Nice try troll.

I think you missed the sarcasm.

Operation Iraqi Liberation

O I L

LMAO. Damn....durrfff!

Rebel Patriot @ 113:

Bitter Jerry @ 109:

To 97

It was definitely not about 911 and don't you and your kind ever forget that moron.

It was about the fucking oil, anyone with half a brain knows that by now. Nice try troll.

I think you missed the sarcasm.

Operation Iraqi Liberation

O I L

Wow - I missed that, I guess it was about oil after all.
Who knew?

right on! @ 1:

When he starts off with My friends, I cringe... and make sure I can't bend over.

Standing room only?

As the old saying goes, a "gaffe" is when a politician accidentally tells the truth.

And that was one hell of a truth that McCain let slip. Because our whole nation is in deep denial about the reasons we went to war in Iraq.

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And KBR profits triple. Iraq, the gift that keeps on giving.

and yellow cake in the rape rooms...

Yeah - I think that this whole mess created loads of wealth for GB's buddies, burdened our nation with huge debt, destroyed our constitution, destabolized our balence of power and generaly destabolized the world.

It may have involved oil, but I doubt it was about oil.
McCain is nieve at best dumb as usual.

But you guys that slobber on the words of an idiot like him....
What should we call you?

I Like Pie @ 108:

Leaveus @ 98:

Besides he tried to buy YELLOW CAKE for God's sake and wee just couldn't let him have that.

Chocolate cake is so much better; anybody that likes yellow cake is definitely a douche-bag.

I don't like chocolate. I prefer yellow cake.

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Barrett D @ 17:

i'm just saying regardless of why america went to war, it is a valid point right now that it is indeed in americas interest to keep oil out of the hands of its enemies.

It's THEIR oil, not OURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Barrett D @ 17:

it is a valid point right now that it is indeed in americas interest to keep oil out of the hands of its enemies

The Saudis? Exxon/Mobil/Chevron/BP?

StirFry @ 112:

Leaveus @ 97: I see Elmer's Glue paste is still affordable.

Then Operation Iraqi Liberation turned into Operation Clusterfuck!

No, it was only a small part of operation destroy America on the way to taking over the whole fucking world.

It was a phazed plan which began with the election and moved right into 911/patriotact/afganistan/iraq...
And on it goes - A real money maker and a wonderful way to take control of the whole world.

But you can call Bush a dummy if you like - He and his very rich friends don't mind at all.
In fact I am sure they enjoy it that way.

Thier little plan streaches well beyound the presidency of the USA...

Leaveus @ 123:

Yeah - I think that this whole mess created loads of wealth for GB's buddies, burdened our nation with huge debt, destroyed our constitution, destabolized our balence of power and generaly destabolized the world.

It may have involved oil, but I doubt it was about oil.
McCain is nieve at best dumb as usual.

But you guys that slobber on the words of an idiot like him....
What should we call you?

Patriotic.

inds couldn't vote in Pa.

hillary should stop saying all votes count. That's a lie.
Let's hold a vote where everyone is allowed to cast their ballots including inds.

I WANT A DO OVER. MY RIGHT DIDN'T COUNT Whaaaa, whaaaa.

Maybe, it's too many shots of Wild Turkey that's causing hillary to hallucinate about snipers, running and ducking for her life. Lay off the booze hillary, you don't have balls.

Hillary couldn't own a gun because she's nuts, so what does she care if anyone else has a gun?

hillary and superdelegates, get the fuck out before you ruin decent people, get the fuck off your wishy-washy asses and urinate or get the hell off the pot, respectively.

Go Obama!
Go USA!

Barrett D @ 17:

it is a valid point right now that it is indeed in americas interest to keep oil out of the hands of its enemies

Oops, forgot one: BushCo.

RancidVenison @ 129:

Leaveus @ 123:

Yeah - I think that this whole mess created loads of wealth for GB's buddies, burdened our nation with huge debt, destroyed our constitution, destabolized our balence of power and generaly destabolized the world.

It may have involved oil, but I doubt it was about oil.
McCain is nieve at best dumb as usual.

But you guys that slobber on the words of an idiot like him....
What should we call you?

Patriotic.

and paying attention!

Um so like why did Tweety's crew flip to footage of Rev. Wright while discussing Obama's lack of luck with white voters of a particular vintage and social standing. What exactly do the two have to do with each other? You don't think Tweety would be trying to get all subliminal would you? If so how come they never slip in pictures of the loon Hagee when discussing John McBush?
Also why is it that they are saying Obama should be concerned about the race tightening in NC when it's doing exactly the same thing to him that it did to Hillary in PA and yet that was a drubbing in her favour? Will they say that he put the boots to her if he wins by 10..I mean 9.5 points..instead of 18 like they did in PA? There isn't a double standard is there?
One last thing, The Mcshameites and Clintards obviously think American voters are morons. Don't buy the gas tax roll back, it's a scam on the order of Richard Nixon not being a crook. The oil companies will leave prices where they are and rake in more profits. Why wouldn't they?
I'm Canadian and I used to be proud to be America's neighbor, if you insist on calling your President "the leader of the free world" than would somebody please vote for Obama on my behalf. I'm proud of my country I'd like to be proud of your too.

Greenspan said essentially the same thing - Iraq war was about oil. So, the real question for me is, why do these people think that they're qualified on national security when the price for the Iraq war was in part, letting the terrorists in Afghanistan off the hook. We left Musharraf pissing in the wind for years, when we should have closed the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, preventing al Qaeda and the Taliban from crossing back and forth and working with Musharraf to finish them off while Musharrif was in charge. Now, I think I heard that Pakistan has cut a deal with the terrorists.

So, now we have neither. We blew up Iraq, and now oil isn't pumping at pre-war levels and al Qaeda lives to see another day. Architects and supporters of these policies aren't qualified to lead on national security. And while I have heard that McCain has military experience, I haven't heard of any command experience that would lead one to believe he is astute in military strategy. Any anyone who wants to lead on the Iraq war had best know the difference between a Shiite and Sunni.

NoBuddy @ 134:

Greenspan said essentially the same thing - Iraq war was about oil. So, the real question for me is, why do these people think that they're qualified on national security when the price for the Iraq war was in part, letting the terrorists in Afghanistan off the hook. We left Musharraf pissing in the wind for years, when we should have closed the border between Afghanistan and Pakistan, preventing al Qaeda and the Taliban from crossing back and forth and working with Musharraf to finish them off while Musharrif was in charge. Now, I think I heard that Pakistan has cut a deal with the terrorists.

So, now we have neither. We blew up Iraq, and now oil isn't pumping at pre-war levels and al Qaeda lives to see another day. Architects and supporters of these policies aren't qualified to lead on national security. And while I have heard that McCain has military experience, I haven't heard of any command experience that would lead one to believe he is astute in military strategy. Any anyone who wants to lead on the Iraq war had best know the difference between a Shiite and Sunni.

Damned straight!

So McCain admits what we all have known the whole time. Bushco will call him up and McCain will flip flop and say he did not mean to say the Iraq war was about oil. If McCain does then you know he is a cheap politician and does not stand for anything!

No. McCain did not say that. It was Rev. Wright. And he was not wearing his flag lapel. And its the "Democrat Party's" (why can't they pronounce it correctly?) fault that we don't have enough oil.

Oh yeah, this must be a deja vu.
It's about Oil.
It's about flatting Iraq to show his daddy a thing or two.
cause it's sure the hell wasn't for wmd or love.

I'm waiting for the bite-chimpy-in-the-ass part.

chimpy: hey boys! get it while the gettin-good.

Leslie [Hussein] @ 132:

RancidVenison @ 129:

Leaveus @ 123:

Yeah - I think that this whole mess created loads of wealth for GB's buddies, burdened our nation with huge debt, destroyed our constitution, destabolized our balence of power and generaly destabolized the world.

It may have involved oil, but I doubt it was about oil.
McCain is nieve at best dumb as usual.

But you guys that slobber on the words of an idiot like him....
What should we call you?

Patriotic.

and paying attention!

Cheney and Bushco raided the US government and hijacked all the money they could.

to@121 The first boots on the ground went to the oil ministry and pumping station hubs as well as a number of fields. Perhaps they were looking for a bathroom. ------------- must be a rib? ceo

Barrett D @ 17:

i'm just saying regardless of why america went to war, it is a valid point right now that it is indeed in americas interest to keep oil out of the hands of its enemies.

The oil belongs to the so called enemies,you arogant prick you. America's interest is to leave those people alone. BTW are they the enemies because they attack us or just because they got oil underneath THEIR soil?

The idiots in the media won't call McCain on this. He is their friend!

Leaveus @ 97:

Any one who thinks this war was for oil is a tin foil hat wearing loonatic.

It was about 911 - AND DON'T FUCKING FORGET IT!
It was about he gassed his own people!
It was about rape rooms and
TORTURE!

He had weapons of mass distruction.
Ties to Alqyda
Ties to 911
He was a very bad man and the world is so much better now that we hung this awful evil man that threatened the whole world.

Operation Iraqi Liberation was never about oil.

you go girl!

Leaveus @ 98:

Besides he tried to buy YELLOW CAKE for God's sake and wee just couldn't let him have that.

right cant have your cake and eat it to!

DC @ 139:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 132:

RancidVenison @ 129:

Leaveus @ 123:

Patriotic.

and paying attention!

Cheney and Bushco raided the US government and hijacked all the money they could.

they hijacked more than that.

habeas corpus
the Constitution
a couple of sovereign nations
the opium fields
the US national reputation

and more...

Dammmmmmnnnnnnn

If mcprettyboy can give up secrets information that fast, maybe it took a cheeseburger for him to spill the beans so long ago.

That's what happens when you spend all your time denying shit. The truth slips out.

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