McCain was for Bush's 'Mission Accomplished Banner" before he was against it
By John Amato Thursday May 01, 2008 1:00pm
John McCain flip flops once again. Will the media notice? As Blue Gal would say. Ha! It's McCain's Media after all and they just love the guy. I couldn't have said this any better...Via email:
This afternoon John McCain went out of his way to imply that President Bush shouldn't be criticized for posting the "Mission Accomplished" banner. Ironically, yesterday the Whitehouse took responsibility for the banner. McCain's statement harkens back to the Whitehouse's attempts in 2003 to push the blame for the banner on to the back of the sailors.
We just released video of McCain from 2003 when he mimicked Bush's Mission Accomplished rhetoric on Iraq.
NEIL CAVUTO (host): Senator -- after a conflict means after the conflict, and many argue the conflict isn't over.
McCAIN: Well, then why was there a banner that said mission accomplished on the aircraft carrier? Look, the -- I have said a long time that reconstruction of Iraq would be a long, long, difficult process, but the conflict -- the major conflict is over, the regime change has been accomplished, and it's very appropriate.
Will McCain be asked why he flip flopped on this issue at least? Anyone out there? Hello Michael Scherer are you around? Maybe you might want to try and bail him out of this one too on TIME's website? I'm sure he'll appreciate it.
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HA! Priiimerrrro!
Ah good ol' McBain...flippity floppin all over this mofo!
Someone should correlate how often McCain begins a sentence attempting to get out of being caught bullshitting with the word "Look".
The press won't do a thing about this. You might see it lampooned on the Daily Show.
As I see it, there are two options for getting this noticed, 1) An attack ad, 2) During the presidential debates.
WinSmith @ 3:
Don't forget "My friends"
WinSmith @ 3:
"Look ..." That's Billo's favorite right before he begins to bull shit his way around an argument.
And people will vote for this guy? Christ! How many dumb-asses are there in this country? It's bad enough the religious right have a strangle hold on our policies, now we have voters who can't be bothered to pick up a newspaper. If McCain wins, we can kiss this country good-bye. He and Lieberman cant wait to strike Iran.
P.D. @ 7:
Somewhere between 28% and 49% of voting citizens are "dumb-asses".
You also know when McCain is pounding in the bs because he will repeat the same sentence up to three times in a row, word for word.
I was watching a clip of McCain talking to some people in an auditorium or something today. The people in the audience looked like they were at a funeral or something. No one was smiling or even had a pleasant expression on their face. They looked so depressed.
I guess I would look depressed too if I had to sit and listen to him speak for any length of time.
Look...just vote for Grandpa. Ok.
Stop asking for "the media" to notice it and start getting your own mouthpieces to mindlessly repeat the shit every day for 6 months like the republicans do. Libs read liberal blogs. Your target audience should be the sheepish fox news crowd. if you can embarrass them enough on their own network you can demoralize many of them.
not all high-pitched and emotional like Maddow would usually do though. seriously. she's a nice kid, but she's not someone who is likely to convince many people. you need a few smug, arrogant, republican-style mouthpieces who are shameless enough to repeat the flip-flop charges regardless of the topic of the day or the questions they are being asked.
then when the host tries to change the subject, grow a fucking pair and talk right over him. the idea that people let Chris Wallace lead them is just plain retarded.
McFlipflop.
www.flipflopco.com
Patricia, If anyone supports McCain they have to be brain-dead. This left vs. right bullshit is destroying the country. But for the first time in a long time, gays and abortion are not in the spectrum. These people have to know that their very future is being threatened. Before long, we will all be poor.
P.D. @ 7:
the religious right wishes they had a strangle hold on our policies. they don't. instead they are coddled, wined, dined, promised, bj'ed, etc. so they support the GOP. then, once in office, the GOP--like the majority of dems--creates policy for the sole benefit of the corporatocracy.
and complacency, imho, has moved into a new realm. for decades complacency meant not paying attention to what was done in our name. people just didn't pay a lick of attention to politics nor policy. now, in a shift since bush took office, more and more people ARE paying attention, but are complacent as to where they get their information and whether or not it is true/accurate/complete. that is, as i see, how complacency has evolved into a more nebulous and, possibly, much more dangerous realm.
also, notice, that the new "enemy"--as far as the political, corporate and media elite declare--is the 'intellectual', or the 'elite'. and this has nothing to do with money, power or access. it has everything to do with knowledge and information. there is a subtle, social war waged against anyone who so dares to expose the govt/corporate lies, and crimes.
Bush said "major combat operations in Iraq have ended", not "regime change has been accomplished". That was clearly a lie and McBush is fumbling to support and distance himself all at the same time
All you have to ask is if "major combat operations in Iraq" ended in May of 2003 why are we still there in huge numbers? Iraq is a disaster. Bush is a disaster. And McBush will be a continuation of disasters.
What everyone keeps forgetting is that The Mission is to Make IRAQI OIL Available to the American Oil Companies.
All the talk about "Weapons of Mass Destruction" or "Regime Change" or "Democracy to the Region" or "Freedom for the Iraqi People" are just platitudes for the benefit of the ignorant, to make them feel OK about the whole thing.
The unstated ideological battle is about whether it is OK to go and steal somebody's natural resources or not. It's nothing to do with threats, terrorism, freedom for Iraq, deaths etc. It's simply about money/imperialism, but because it's unstated there is no MSM discussion on this issue.
Remember "Stay the Course"? That is what we are still doing, and the corporate-controlled administration will fight to the end to do this. When democrats talk about walking away from Iraq, they are ending the unstated mission. Period. No more chance at vast profits. No chance to recover any of the investment so far. Suck it up America! You lost.
Dana Perino actually did say it was the sailors that the banner was for, I didn't really think that was taking responsibility, and implied the WH was not the instigator.
P.D. @ 13:
I'm already there. I had a job back in 2004. I had health insurance, a good retirement package and I made about $50,000 a year. Now, I am a poor 36 year old college student, living off financial aid. The job market has dried up. There's nothing out there. Even when I graduate college their will still be nothing out there. I'm getting my degree and moving overseas.
mccain, clearly, will say anything. he'll call his wife a c*nt, he will embrace those he called 'agents of intolerance', and all the Operation Iraqi Liberation flip flops.
he is only a maverick of consistency and honesty.
straight-talkingpoint express
Not sure I got the point of this post. The writing is not entirely clear.
Seems like C&L is on a bit of a holiday(????)
YourMom @ 16:
exactly.
which makes it NO different from iran in 1953 (oil). or guatemala in 1954 (land for united fruit). examples abound
I Like Pie, My daughter lost her home and her job in 1 week. Tough times are coming for everyone. Even Jose Cansecko lost his million dollar mansion. Not that that moves me to tears. And those McMansions? Many are empty. Good luck on your degree.
Samson- @ 21:
smedley butler was right!!!!!
WAR IS A RACKET!!!!!!!!!!!
You're right Johnny....when referring to "major conflict" being over, you mean your DEAD ON ARRIVAL campaign. Stupid, crazed, tormented, politically suicidal, old fuck just can't stop pissing on himself.
It's hard work trying to remember what your position was on something yesterday and even harder trying to remember what it was five years ago. McCain shows his insincerity every time he does something like this. He goes as the wind blows and panders rather than take a stand he believes in and stick with it and explain it to the voters.
He was on Chris Matthews show a couple or so years back. Chris asked McCain if he was okay with gay marriage. McCain said he was. Then the show cut for a commercial. Someone came up to McCain and said something in his ear. When the the commercial was over McCain said he wanted to correct himself, and that he was not okay with gay marriage.
He is so out of touch that his people have to correct him and tell him where he stands. That's pathetic!
[Deleted. Off topic-Sitemonitor]
A warning, rather than deletion was perhaps more warrented. Oh well, there's a first time for everything.
JonAtWork @ 4:
Or maybe a "March on the Media?" Do you think they would cover that?
Check his medical records my friends.
This gem was from one of my favority posters on ThinkProgress:
'We’ve seen this dance before, and no doubt we will see it many, many times again. Make a bold statement, then backpedal frantically. Repeat.
I predict this routine will soon be called “doing the McCain.”'
Later missmolly expands on this idea:
OK, I think I got the dance steps. Because poetry really isn’t my thing, everyone else is invited to add their own verses. Here goes (and do your stretching exercise before attempting these acrobatics):
'First you put your foot out in a big bold stride
Then you back up quickly with a twist to the side
Boldly dance around and make a big loud roar
Then shuffle back and sidestep like you’ve always done before
Doin’ the McCain, yeah, doin’ the McCain
Doin’ the McCain, yeah, doin’ the McCain
Take a principled position on an issue of the day
Then flip and flop it lest the wingnuts you betray
Claim to be a maverick to show that you are free
Then fall in line and lose your spine to Bush’s GOP
Doin’ the McCain, yeah, doin’ the McCain
Doin’ the McCain, yeah, doin’ the McCain'
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/02/thinkfast-may-2-2008/#comment-4940686
Oh c'mon. McSame is just delivering more of that wonderful straight talk the "liberal" media loves to eat up.
I'm telling you....get ready for McSame to win in November. This country is so far out of whack I'm not sure it can be straightened out. Especially with another four years of Chimpy's policies.
Tell me, is there anything to be optimistic about???
Here's my favorite Banner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2TE0UzieDg
The Truth Hurts @ 31:
Puppies and Flowers.
But the puppy will probably piddle on your feet and the flowers arouse your hay fever.
mary @ 30:
I love it!
Samson- @ 21:
You have it backwards my friends. Bush didn't invade Iraq to steal the oil. Bush invaded Iraq to stop Iraqi Oil from entering the markets. Oil Companies do NOT make money when their is a plethora of oil; they MAKE MONEY when their is a SCARCITY of oil.
Straight Talk.....directly to fucking Hell.
This was already on Eschaton three days ago.
Remember the need for an "Exit Strategy" ?
This only applies to Democrats.
Same with "Flip-Flopping".
Only applies to Democrats.
There are probably a few more examples like this.
Thanks pissed off patricia! I'll be sure to tell missmolly - or misshusseinmolly as she is now calling herself. Some of the posters at TP have taken to adding hussein to their names ever since some nitwits started making a fuss over Obama having that name.
Regards,
husseinmary
'Claim to be a maverick to show that you are free
Then fall in line and lose your spine to Bush’s GOP'
McFlipper!
So do republicans only flip-flop when their in the hay with pages and prostitutes?
Or do they just lay there like a dead fish?
Left&Left @ 36:
McSame or this country?
I Like Pie @ 35:
that is a good point, but not definitive. there are several reasons for the increase in the price of oil, and plethora/scarcity is one of them. a very important one, but by no means the only one.
we did invade iraq to hand over the iraqi oil over to the multinational oil companies. and, from there, they could do whatever they wanted to do to gouge the oil-guzzling public. further, i would argue that this has less to do with the price of a barrel, and more to do with long term hegemony of the multinational corporation. tangentially, the era of the nation-state has just about reached its end, and the era of the corporate-state is on the ascension.
pissed off patricia @ 34:
Yes! Do you think Obama Girl would dance it?
Left&Left @ 36:
Does McCain's straight talk mean we'll never hear him calling somebody a big thilly?
The Truth Hurts @ 42:
Sadly, BOTH. If somehow McGeriatric becomes Prez. This old fool will literally bomb a country(Iran) and won't remember doing so the next day.
lj - Wouldn't hurt to ask! It might not be the prettiest of dances though. In fact, some might see it as obscene!
Left&Left Says:
If somehow McGeriatric becomes Prez. This old fool will literally bomb a country(Iran) and won’t remember doing so the next day.
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Not until he pulls up to the gas pumps and looks at $10 per gallon for gas!
Oh, wait a minute, he wouldn't need to care about that now would he?
Yeah yeah yeah...harping on "Mission Accomplished" is entertaining. I bought my George W. Bush Aviator doll for the purpose of doing the exact same thing.
But you know what is inordinately worse than "Mission Accomplished...?"
"Bring 'em on!" That statement there is the one that I will never forget...
SOS-SOS.
Carpathia, We require immediate assistance.
Gallup Daily: McCain Moves to 6-Point Lead Over Obama
PRINCETON, NJ -- John McCain has moved to a six percentage point, 48% to 42%, lead over Barack Obama in Gallup Poll Daily tracking of the general election, while he edges out Hillary Clinton by only one point, 46% to 45%....
Decision time, Howard Dean. The McCain ads aren't working.
I agree Chuffy. If you're going to act super stupid and say things like "Bring 'em on!" you should at least be standing on the front lines about to directly engage your opponent!
I remember the first time I heard that, "Bring 'em on!" quote and I groaned in a, "Uh, oh - that's not going to be good", kind of way. Kind of like when I heard Bush trumpeting the "Axis of evil" thing.
mary @ 47:
I would look at it as being "spicy." I can see another "Do the Macarena" coming along!
dennis @ 50:
Dennis,
Two points:1) Polls mean nothing until a couple of weeks before a given election. 2) The McWar ads have just begun and you know this. The ads are factual and to the point, they will have an effect because no one in their right mind(except maybe you, Dennis) wants four more years of Bush.
McStupid was all for lying , until he got caught , and then he was against it .........
Against getting caught , not against lying.
dennis @ 50:
Decision time , John McStupid and imbeciles like dennis who continue to support the horseshit GOP. The illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq aren't working (unless you visit the place with a few platoons and several warships guarding your stupid , wrinkled old ass).
Hi MCMetal,
I certainly could be wrong, but, I think the point Dennis may have been making was that Hillary is dragging Obama down? What with the SOS and all.
Dennis?
"Quick! Repair those rivets"
Obama May Go On The O'Reilly Factor
Caution Barack. You're entering the No-Spin Zone. The spin stops right there.
mary @ 56:
Not likely
dennis is a GOP tool
dennis @ 57:
Yeah , until O'Lielly does a "follow-up" afterwards or on a future show of his , with that empty-headed pig Laura Ingraham , where they lie their stupid GOP asses off...........
I catch the irony and hypocricy of McCain's flip-flops, especially considering the way the Republicans decimated John Kerry for his "nuanced approach" in 2004. However, I think we need to be aware that Republican true-believers will never see inconsistencies in their chosen heroes. Whatever they say or do will have a plausible, reasonable explanation that those less informed and enlightened can never understand (and they say Democrats are elitists!). When you think about it, that's the mark of an absolute hypocrite: they believe their own crap no matter how far-fetched or illogical while disparaging the "experts" for their snooty, know-it-all attitudes. Authoritarians are never wrong; they are always in the process of becoming "righter."
mary @ 56:
No Mary. Just like Hillary, Dennis prefers McFraud over Obama. Notice his enthusiasm when he mentions McWar's supposed temporary 6 point lead? And how he openly begs Howard Dean to help Hillary? We get it Dennis...anyone but Obama.
Left&Left @ 61:
And who with any viable brain matter in their coconut would be gleefully talking about Dildo O'Lielly like dennisthedouchebag just did ?
What a turd...........
Thanks for the info MCMetal. I wonder if O'Reilly will bring up how torture "works"...
randron - does that mean then that there is no hope for "Republican true-believers"? Should we use your line of thinking and tell them that by voting for Obama that they'll become even "righter"? You know, use their own vanity on them somehow? Do even the "true-believers" have a breaking point? Such as $10 per gallon gas?
"America has hardly even begun to repay its debt to Iraq," said Abdul Basit, the head of Iraq's Supreme Board of Audit, an independent body that oversees Iraqi government spending. "This is an immoral request because we didn't ask them to come to Iraq, and before they came in 2003 we didn't have all these needs."
He is so corect !!
dennis @ 50:
You can thank the Republicans' best friend, dennis. That old pal that always comes through for them, ever since the Southern Strategy.
Are you proud?
Fast Forward the Video of Bush's complete speech and what will you fined?
"The Battle for Iraq is the first VICTORY in the War on Terror....."
Why doesn't the MSM play that part of Bush's speech????
DaveK @ 20:
Sounds to me like they read today's Moveon quiz about McCain, which stated the same fact, remembered there was a video and decided to spring this one as a C & L brainstorm. Forgetting that many, if not most, of us are Moveon.com members. Oh, well.
DIFFICULT CHOICE WHICH REPUBLICAN TO VOTE FOR...
JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN... OR JOHN "THE REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN
.......DOING THE FLIP-FLOP..... TRY OUT THIS ONE ON HIS "I DONT DO PORK"
McCain’s claim is false. In 2006, the senator teamed up with fellow Arizona senator Jon Kyl (R) to funnel $10 million toward the University of Arizona for an academic center named after the late Supreme Court Justice William Rehnquist. Even Arizona lawmaker, Rep. Jeff Flake (R), said he was planning to “lean against the measure.” The National Taxpayers Union, another traditional McCain ally, questioned why the senator was making federal taxpayers foot the bill for the center.
In 2003, McCain also slipped $14.3 million into a defense appropriations bill to
create a buffer zone around Luke Air Force Base in Arizona. As Roll Call reported in 2003, this project violated McCain’s own anti-pork rhetoric:
The only problem is the project to acquire more land near the base was not requested by President Bush or fully authorized by the Senate Armed Services Committee - two of McCain’s criteria for identifying so-called ‘pork.
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK), a notorious porker, was overjoyed that McCain had joined his side. “One man’s pork is another man’s alternate white meat,” said Stevens. “If he asked for it, we put it in.”
Yeah, but let's talk about really relevant issues like; Did McCain wear a flag pin while supporting the worst foreign policy blunder in US history? What does Hillary's preacher think about US race relations?
50 dennis Says: SOS-SOS.
Carpathia, We require immediate assistance.
You're supporting Dracula?
I really want:
1) To get the US out of Iraq, and let those people decide their own fate.
2) For the US to adopt a policy of only using energy developed in our own country, so that we quit pumping money into societies that don't use it constructivly. Clean coal, nuclear, gas, oil, wind, solar, biodiesel are all fine, provided they come from here. There is plenty of energy here, and we can keep our dollars at home.
3) corporations to quit buying Presidents and congressmen.
4) Barack Hussien Obama to be the next president of this place.
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