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The Pentagon has provided $30 billion in contracts to KBR during the Iraq War. Apparently that's just the Basic Troop Support Package, however, because it's not enough money to keep the contractor from electrocuting a dozen troops in showers and elsewhere throughout Iraq and Afghanistan. [..]

The New York Times piece goes on to explain:

The Army has provided little detailed information about the electrocutions, other than to say late Friday that 10 soldiers had been electrocuted in Iraq. A House committee has also reported that two marines died similarly.

One former KBR electrician was quite frank about what's going on:

And Mr. Bliss, who saw a soldier standing next to him in Qalat, Afghanistan, receive a severe shock from an electrical box that was not supposed to be charged, said his KBR bosses mocked him for raising safety issues. They were "not giving the Army what it needed," he said, "and not giving the soldiers what they deserved."

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L.A. Confidential's picture

Yes it's a nasty vicious world. Good news doesn't "sell".

breakspear's picture

Id like to see those KBR bosses who laughed at the misfortunes of the electrocuted soldiers drawn and quartered, and then electrocuted. clearly they dont care and never did, its always been about the money. eternal shame to them.

ferrofluid's picture

What do you expect with electricians using 'Burcaps' aka 'Wingnuts' to connect wiring together !!!!
At once both amusing and scary as heck the antique US wiring standards.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

Well, at least they are making a profit. That is always good news...

ferrofluid's picture

how does it go 'electrocuting them over there, so we dont have to electrocute them over here'
then again going by those pictures of the flooded barracks in the US...

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

If cars ran on sausage the energy companies would just send the troops directly to the meat grinder at the meat packing plant.

ferrofluid's picture

Entrenched codes and industrial inertia is a big factor in a lot of this.
Case in point the UL standards for electric vehicles, "wrap rheostats in cotton wool and check for charring"
this is in the day and age of embedded PWM controllers and regenerative braking. :O

L.A. Confidential's picture

But this is Republican style American Quality.

ferrofluid's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 8:

But this is Republican style American Quality.

Yes, dont upset the apple cart, business as usual and outsource as cheaply as possible.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Moral to the story. There are no shortages of opportunities for humans to fu*k things up on this planet.

L.A. Confidential's picture

ferrofluid @ 9:

L.A. Confidential @ 8:

But this is Republican style American Quality.

Yes, dont upset the apple cart, business as usual and outsource as cheaply as possible.

But we have our flags on a stick, yellow ribbon stickers. Makes us PROUD.

Lilybelle's picture

It's all part of supporting the troops. There's nothing to see here. Move on. Why do you hate America?

If we let the Republicans use troops for props while turning a blind eye to how contractors are poisoning and electricuting them and how troops have to wade through feces-filled water in their own barracks....

Mike Mid City's picture

If the survivors of murdered troops could sue KBR in court with no ceiling on punitive damages then they would soon be out of business.

Supporting the troops is a beard for raping the American treasury.

kablooie's picture

They can die in the shower or swimming pool, or they can come home to the VA and get what my Great-Uncle got after yet another misguided American war: He was electrocuted during shock treatment for PTSD.

L.A. Confidential's picture

The Bush Co Sales Rejection and Human Suffering Company

AP May 03
European oil groups Royal Dutch Shell and Repsol YPF are under pressure from the United States to end talks with Iran about a multi-billion dollar natural gas deal, the Expansion newspaper reported Saturday.

Press Release . . .
"We believe that sales and cooperation are bad for everyone and suffering and death builds character!"

robbie's picture

KBR (along with Blackwater, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Rice) should be tried for War Crimes (feel free to add anyone I might have left out)

SCHRODINGER&#039;S CAT's picture

OK .

The Pentagon cannot maintain a barracks on it's home turf , the USA. That's obvious.
Simple plumbing and roofing . I can do that type of construction and I am not a plumber or roofer.

Now it appears the Pentagon cannot implement a simply QC program for installation of electrical systems. I wired my basement, I know what grounding is and I am not an electrician.

It makes you wonder if all that incredibly expensive and complicated military equipment actually works.

This is actually a cultural problem , I believe..

I am starting research for the next car.In fact I have the Consumer Reports Ratings & Review magazine in front of me right now.

Here is what stands out as the next choice of car.

ACURA, HONDA, HYUNDAI, INFINITI, LEXUS, TOYOTA.

Is there a pattern ?

ferrofluid's picture

robbie @ 16:

KBR (along with Blackwater, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Feith, Rice) should be tried for War Crimes (feel free to add anyone I might have left out)

Do we have a webpage big enough ;)

L.A. Confidential's picture

SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 17:

Is there a pattern ?

"While opportunism isn’t new in U.S. politics, never did so many in one family extract so many dollars from taxpayers as when George Bush senior was president a decade ago" -- David E. Scheim, author of Contract on America.

"What you’ve got with Bush [George senior] is absolutely the largest number of siblings and children involved in what looks like a never-ending hustle." -- Republican pundit Kevin Philips

ferrofluid's picture

SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 17:

OK .

The Pentagon cannot maintain a barracks on it's home turf , the USA. That's obvious.
Simple plumbing and roofing . I can do that type of construction and I am not a plumber or roofer.

Now it appears the Pentagon cannot implement a simply QC program for installation of electrical systems. I wired my basement, I know what grounding is and I am not an electrician.

It makes you wonder if all that incredibly expensive and complicated military equipment actually works.

This is actually a cultural problem , I believe..

I am starting research for the next car.In fact I have the Consumer Reports Ratings & Review magazine in front of me right now.

Here is what stands out as the next choice of car.

ACURA, HONDA, HYUNDAI, INFINITI, LEXUS, TOYOTA.

Is there a pattern ?

Same pattern as what happened to the stagnant 70s British car industry, bosses and bean counters destroyed it in the name of dividends and bonuses and almost zero R&D.

curtilingus's picture

Electric showers? Surprised they're not bathing in gassy ovens.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution's picture

SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 17:

OK .

The Pentagon cannot maintain a barracks on it's home turf , the USA. That's obvious.
Simple plumbing and roofing . I can do that type of construction and I am not a plumber or roofer.

Now it appears the Pentagon cannot implement a simply QC program for installation of electrical systems. I wired my basement, I know what grounding is and I am not an electrician.

It makes you wonder if all that incredibly expensive and complicated military equipment actually works.

This is actually a cultural problem , I believe..

I am starting research for the next car.In fact I have the Consumer Reports Ratings & Review magazine in front of me right now.

Here is what stands out as the next choice of car.

ACURA, HONDA, HYUNDAI, INFINITI, LEXUS, TOYOTA.

Is there a pattern ?

Don't overlook the fact that KBR imports a lot of East Asians into Iraq to do the work at meager salaries. The patern i see is greed.

ferrofluid's picture

Crunch time was 1980 when 1/4 of British heavy industry collapsed during that WB and IMF inspired recession,
Thatcher had to follow their monetary policies or have the funding (free money) cut off.

Bluestocking's picture

Mr. Bliss, who saw a soldier standing next to him in Qalat, Afghanistan, receive a severe shock from an electrical box that was not supposed to be charged, said his KBR bosses mocked him for raising safety issues. They were “not giving the Army what it needed,” he said, “and not giving the soldiers what they deserved.”

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Based on what I read about this over at ThinkProgress, Bliss was actually fired for calling the attention of a federal official to the problem since KBR apparently refuses to do anything about it. Since they've received at least thirty billion so far in contracts from the federal government, there's no way KBR can legitimately make the claim that they can't do anything about the problem...not at those prices! The fact that KBR has fired people in apparent retaliation for calling attention to a safety problem which has already caused at least ten fatalities suggests that this goes way beyond criminal negligence into the realm of deliberate malfeasance. If this sort of thing were going on stateside, KBR would have been hauled into court and heavily fined long before this.

Margeaggedon's picture

SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 17:

OK .

The Pentagon cannot maintain a barracks on it's home turf , the USA. That's obvious.
Simple plumbing and roofing . I can do that type of construction and I am not a plumber or roofer.

Now it appears the Pentagon cannot implement a simply QC program for installation of electrical systems. I wired my basement, I know what grounding is and I am not an electrician.

It makes you wonder if all that incredibly expensive and complicated military equipment actually works.

This is actually a cultural problem , I believe..

I am starting research for the next car.In fact I have the Consumer Reports Ratings & Review magazine in front of me right now.

Here is what stands out as the next choice of car.

ACURA, HONDA, HYUNDAI, INFINITI, LEXUS, TOYOTA.

Is there a pattern ?

Yeah it was over for 'merkan cars ten years ago. We owned our LAST ONE and never again. A total POS.
They're hardly automotive companies any more. They're just extensions of the gluttony that is big oil now. Look at the ridiculously inefficient cars they're STILL making!! Utter shite.

Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die)'s picture

The Great 'War' in Iraq (Afghanistan) Swindle continues.

ferrofluid's picture

SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 17:

OK .

The Pentagon cannot maintain a barracks on it's home turf , the USA. That's obvious.
Simple plumbing and roofing . I can do that type of construction and I am not a plumber or roofer.

Its where the money is being targeted at, I would imagine budgets are being redirected to Iraq, Afghanistan and black ops and assorted scams and thefts.
Its like the last moments in Monopoly or a horse race, where its all or nothing, going for broke, a last big gamble.
The neocons are gambling on winning the (control of) oil in the ME and Asia, thats their winning ticket.
Come 2009 they hope to have the big oil companies set up pretty and themselves in the drivers seats.

ferrofluid's picture

Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die) @ 25:

The Great 'War' in Iraq (Afghanistan) Swindle continues.

The two Os the neocons love, oil and opium.

ferrofluid's picture

curtilingus @ 21:

Electric showers? Surprised they're not bathing in gassy ovens.

Fuel air bombs and nerve gasses are only used by the complaints dept on annoying customers.

The Smiths's picture

Iraq Veterans are still trying to be heard..
http://www.ivaw.org/faq

Investigate the Media Pundits
--> Bush loyalist Fran Townsend joining CNN.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/04/bush-loyalist-fran-townsend-joining-...

Mark Flessner, an assistant US attorney has something to say about Ms. Townsend....
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=fran_townsend

Whaaa?'s picture

Jesus H frickin' //////!!!!!!!!!!
This is sure to be all over the MSM NEWS.......NOT!

The Smiths's picture

Pat Tillman's mother still has something to say..

She is speaking out about her son's death in her first television interview,
to be broadcast this Sunday on 60 Minutes.
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=962

We will never forget when Kevin Tillman spoke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-EwReGl88o

Atheistic's picture

ferrofluid @ 27:

Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die) @ 25:

The Great 'War' in Iraq (Afghanistan) Swindle continues.

The two Os the neocons love, oil and opium.

Make that 3 "O"s they love Oil, Opium, and Obedience.

ferrofluid's picture

Atheistic @ 32:

ferrofluid @ 27:

Alice (formerly Hussein, live free of the Borg or die) @ 25:

The Great 'War' in Iraq (Afghanistan) Swindle continues.

The two Os the neocons love, oil and opium.

Make that 3 "O"s they love Oil, Opium, and Obedience.

Or in the Rev. Haggards ex fuhrer of the NAEs case hot gay male action, crystal meth, and free money.
and they say religion is boring and mundane :O

ferrofluid's picture

The NAE should have kept Haggard and made him a recruiting poster star.

ysbaddaden's picture

"The Army has provided little detailed information about the electrocutions, other than to say late Friday that 10 soldiers had been electrocuted in Iraq. A House committee has also reported that two marines died similarly."

Shocking.

BigChickenDinner's picture

Electrocutions prove the surge is working.It's also a good way to keep the troops in line. America doesn't need any troops questioning the accomplished mission.

fastfeat's picture

L.A. Confidential @ 15:

The Bush Co Sales Rejection and Human Suffering Company

AP May 03
European oil groups Royal Dutch Shell and Repsol YPF are under pressure from the United States to end talks with Iran about a multi-billion dollar natural gas deal, the Expansion newspaper reported Saturday.

Press Release . . .
"We believe that sales and cooperation are bad for everyone and suffering and death builds character!"

Hey, at least ShrubCo still sort of remembers the Dutch are an ally someone we haven't fucked over much yet. Just giving them a chance to get out of the way before the shelling begins.

fastfeat's picture

BigChickenDinner @ 36:

Electrocutions prove the surge is working.

LOL...

sah's picture

Privatization..WOOHOO....(glad I was out of the USMC before this shit started). These bastards can all rot in hell. SAH

blog responder's picture

Also reported on in the New York Times:

Despite Alert, Flawed Wiring Still Kills G.I.’s
By JAMES RISEN
NYT | Published: May 4, 2008
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/04/world/middleeast/04electrocute.html

bitter Edwin Hussein's picture

Imagine you're living in a war zone, and you risk your life every day. Then even at your own base, you risk your life every time you go to the shower. That's torture; not knowing if you'll be shocked or killed. You know, "once bitten, twice shy." We're very much like Pavlov's dogs.

Were these soldiers electrocuted dead, or injured?

SCHRODINGER&#039;S CAT's picture

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 22:

SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 17:

OK .

The Pentagon cannot maintain a barracks on it's home turf , the USA. That's obvious.
Simple plumbing and roofing . I can do that type of construction and I am not a plumber or roofer.

Now it appears the Pentagon cannot implement a simply QC program for installation of electrical systems. I wired my basement, I know what grounding is and I am not an electrician.

It makes you wonder if all that incredibly expensive and complicated military equipment actually works.

This is actually a cultural problem , I believe..

I am starting research for the next car.In fact I have the Consumer Reports Ratings & Review magazine in front of me right now.

Here is what stands out as the next choice of car.

ACURA, HONDA, HYUNDAI, INFINITI, LEXUS, TOYOTA.

Is there a pattern ?

Don't overlook the fact that KBR imports a lot of East Asians into Iraq to do the work at meager salaries. The patern i see is greed.

xoites

There should have been a QC program in place during the construction process managed by the Owner whoever that may be.

Somone has to keep the cowboys in line, and in this case maybe the cowboys are the East Asians .

At the end of construction the buildings have to be turned over to the Owner through a Commissioning program again managed by the Owner in conjunction with the contractor to confirm that the mechanical and electrical systems are working as per spec.

The contractor does not get paid in full until the Owner signs off.

Maybe the QC program and Commissioning program were subcontracted out to the lowest bidder.

Fran Taylor's picture

"This is sure to be all over the MSM NEWS…….NOT!"

To give them some credit, the linked story is in the NY Times, which is about as mainstream as it gets. Let's hope they follow up.

Chip's picture

Actually, this has been going on for some time. There were wiring defects in the new Marine baracks at the American Embassy (the fortress) in Iraq a year ago. The wiring was so bad they wouldn't let the Marines in the new baracks. It wasn't even up to National Electrical Code Standards. The wire being used was a guage too thin causing a fire hazard throughout the baracks. The oversight in the construction process was and is horrendous. If we can't even provide safe electrical standards for our own people how the hell will the damaged infrastructure for the Iraqis ever get done?

Underground Pirate's picture

Really not surprising. Just think of all the half wits and morally bankrupt creeps that enlist in the export death business (aka military).
Why would anyone expect them to be competent electricians!!!!

bill st's picture

This is one shocking story.

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