The way things are today, he would probably be arrested in some areas of the country for doing the same thing today.

Last night on 60 Minutes did anyone watch the story about the doctor? What an incredible man he is and the things he has done and is still doing make him my idea of a real life hero.

And the moral of the movie Inherit the Wind is if you teach evolution, you'll end up marrying Samantha, and getting Endora for a mother-in-law.

I can't seem to locate it but there must be a transcript of last week on Morning Joe, I believe it was Friday. Joe was joking around about Hillary asking people to bet on Eight Belles. Joe made jokes about what would happen if her horse had a problem and had to taken off "to the glue factory". I wondered if Joe would bring the Derby up on his show this morning but if he did, I didn't hear it.

And yet still today, insane Christofascists around the world _still_ seek to deny children a science education, demanding that science destroys their insane god delusions. Which it does.

How are these insane Christian fascists any different than their Islamic colleagues?

Oh. That's right. They aren't one bit different. They're all insane mass murdering fascist piles of ignorant shit.

Toi Su @ 8:

And yet still today, insane Christofascists around the world _still_ seek to deny children a science education, demanding that science destroys their insane god delusions. Which it does.

How are these insane Christian fascists any different than their Islamic colleagues?

Oh. That's right. They aren't one bit different. They're all insane mass murdering fascist piles of ignorant shit.

Science is the practice of discovering questions by finding answers.
Science is advanced by asking questions.

Asking questions is a sin, in the eyes of fundamentalism.

Creationism teaches that everything knowable about God is bound in the pages of the Holy Bible. That God can take no action or think no thought that isn't explicitly described in the Holy Bible. He is a fossil, a fixed unchanging rock.

Because God is a limited being that can perform no action outside the Holy Bible, fundamentalists no everything he has done or will do, so they can say with complete authority that God did this, or God did that.

That is how they know that God didn't invent Evolution. If he did, the Holy Bible would say so. And God can't do anything that isn't written in the bible.

We also know that God can't play guitar. Because there are no guitars in the Holy Bible.

And as the Holy Bible makes no reference to the English Language and the early Bibles were written in Hebrew and Greek, then clearly God can't understand prayers spoken in English.

Life in Red State part 354:

The current biology teacher at our local high school refuses to cover evolution. It is part of the curriculum, but when she gets to the chapter on evolution she kips it. To cover herself, she tells the class it is against her religion, but they can read it in their own time if they want to.

83 Years ... 83 YEARS !! ... and there is hardly any change of mindset. The same whacko's of yesteryear would still deny children true knowledge and rather opt for superstitions and religious fantasy.

The Religions have chipped away at the mental evolution of men.

"I looked deep into his soul and asked him 'What does it really feel like to BE a WINNER?'"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2008/05/images/20080505_p050508j...

15 Gary Says: Ahh yes, Darwins theory.

Theory I said.

Which is indeed the scientific name for it, but what exactly is your point?

15 Gary Says: Ahh yes, Darwins theory.

Theory I said.
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And cIntelligent Designm

A religious doctrine

Not a theory at all.

Hi, C&L'ers:

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Give him a listen & thanks in advance.

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Best bumper sticker I have ever seen said, "Evolution is a theory just like gravity is a theory"

Tribal warfare in NH.

Yes, Theory as in Scientific Theory, not Theory as in "Hmm, I've got an idea." One's a scientific model based on evidence, observation, is testable and makes predictions. The other one is just a hypothesis, but unfortunately most folks get the two crossed. If you deny evolution is an accurate model explaining the diversity of life on Earth, chances are A.) you weren't properly educated on it and therefore don't understand it B.) you've fallen for the religious-driven propaganda against it.

Actually, to the evolution deniers out there, I usually like to ask: "So, how's that flu vaccine working out for you?" The ultimate irony is watching how the anti-evolution movement has had to *evolve* over time as court cases sided against them.

We haven't come very far, have we.

This clip could be from a present day courtroom.

We are #1...

ysbaddaden Says: And the moral of the movie Inherit the Wind is if you teach evolution, you’ll end up marrying Samantha, and getting Endora for a mother-in-law.

And then one day you will wake and you will have the same name, wife, mother-in-law, boss, and child but you will look different, sound different, be different....you will be a pod person.

Anyone else hear Shillary's comment on Morning Jo(k)e today? "If the Democrats had the same primary rules as the Republicans, I'd be the nominee already". There she goes again, praising the Rethugs.

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 37:

Weaseldog @ 35:

Gary @ 15:

Ahh yes, Darwins theory.

Theory I said.

Yup, the highest level in science that an idea can reach.

Like Gravity. The Theory of Gravity. Or the Theory of Electricity. Or the Theory of Light....

In science, there are no facts. There are hypothesis (untested ideas), theories (tested ideas), experiments (tests for ideas) and observations (data collected from experiments).

Perhaps we should be teaching alternate Theories of gravity, rather than those proposed by that Heretic, Isaac Newton?

Don't forget the Atomic Theory that made the bomb possible.

That makes no sense. It's not even in the Holy Bible...

Dr. Acula @ 36:

Anyone else hear Shillary's comment on Morning Jo(k)e today? "If the Democrats had the same primary rules as the Republicans, I'd be the nominee already". There she goes again, praising the Rethugs.

I heard it and I also heard Joe ask Obama why he loved his country. Joe is becoming one of the biggest pains in the ass on tv.

Hop over and take a look at the most recent post at Kos. Seems about three years back Hillary made a similar statement to the one McCain made about staying in Iraq for many many years.

Remember when Mccain was asked during the debate if he believed in evolution? And his answer Was to the effect,"Yes, I believe in evolution but then I look at the Gand Canyon and knop it is god." Or something like that. And I thought,"Are you nuts!" It wasn't even an answer!

I have been frustrated with the lack of a spine in the large portion of the superdelegates who have yet to commit to either Clinton or Obama, but something else just dawned on me as well. Shouldn't websites like Crooks and Liars be making up their minds as well and formally endorsing one candidate or the other?

I know some blogs attempt to stay objective, but I believe it is that sort of forced objectivity that has been making this entire process a much more drawn out and time consuming ordeal.

Any thoughts on that?

pissed off patricia @ 33:

McCain spoke out favorably in 2005 regarding intelligent design

From that same 2005 article:

"A recent poll by the Gallup Organization found that McCain's favorable ratings have consistently hovered above 50 percent since 2002, two years after he ran for the Republican nomination for president against George W. Bush."

And now it's at 32 percent and falling.

Seems the more people find out about McCain, the less they like him.

44 Mike Says: I have been frustrated with the lack of a spine in the large portion of the superdelegates who have yet to commit to either Clinton or Obama, but something else just dawned on me as well. Shouldn’t websites like Crooks and Liars be making up their minds as well and formally endorsing one candidate or the other?

I know some blogs attempt to stay objective, but I believe it is that sort of forced objectivity that has been making this entire process a much more drawn out and time consuming ordeal.

Any thoughts on that?

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As i understand it the staff of C&L do not agree on who the nominee should be so i think their decision not to endorse either one makes total sense.

[That is not necessarily the reason. We just want to be 100% behind whoever is running against the Republican nominee. It's hard to do that if you've been trash talking them for months. It's John's Blog, it's John's decision, and we all agree with that decision and support him.
We also have commenters we highly regard on both sides. We don't want to alienate half of our posters.
It will make life simpler for the site team as well, when the nominee is chosen-Sitemonitor]

I should move to Cuba where when i vote for Fidel Castro i know my vote will be counted.

Ratface @ 27:

Yes fastfeat theory = science. Absolute fact (Noah's Ark, The talking
snake, blah blah blah) is fact. No argument, no discussion. Give me a
break?

Huh??

My link was supposed to be to a pic of Shrubby trying to drain wisdom from the Westminster Best-in-Show boxer...

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 17:

Be warned: there are Wizards among us!

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=79533

Let me get my head around this. A substitute teacher does a simple trick to make a toothpick "disappear" and some morons in Florida had him removed from his job on the grounds that he practices wizardry?

Good thing he didn't do something really scary like produce fire or they'd be screaming to have him stoned in the public square.

fastfeat @ 51:

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 25:

pissed off patricia @ 23:

Best bumper sticker I have ever seen said, "Evolution is a theory just like gravity is a theory"

Thats pretty good, where can I get one?

Not in Floriduh, I'm sure. I'm having my doubts about gravity here as well...

Go to the beach and look at the shape of some of the snow birds in their bathing suits. That will restore your belief in gravity and also make you want to scratch out your eyes.

The Scopes Monkey Trial was an even bigger farce than the OJ Simpson trial. William Jennings Bryan took the witness stand even though he was the prosecutor. Part of the trial took place outdoors on a lawn. The jury did not allowed the jury in the court during any of the defense testimony. Both the defense and the prosecution claimed the defendant was guilty. There were no closing arguments by the defense or prosecuting attorneys. The whole convoluted trial trial & conviction resulted in a nominal fine of $100 subsequently appealed and rescinded by a higher court. It was a judicial zoo of a monkey trial held in a kangaroo court.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 17:

Be warned: there are Wizards among us!

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=79533

Good christ. Just when I think the stupidest among us has been found, up pops a gem like this.

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 25:

pissed off patricia @ 23:

Best bumper sticker I have ever seen said, "Evolution is a theory just like gravity is a theory"

Thats pretty good, where can I get one?

the only reason that gravity has any effect on the repugs is
they are all full of dried crap.

miss_kitty @ 60:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 17:

Be warned: there are Wizards among us!

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx?storyid=79533

Good christ. Just when I think the stupidest among us has been found, up pops a gem like this.

My grandpa used to produce honest-to-goodness real US quarters from the backs of my ears. Who knew that he was the spawn of Satan??

Some fundie's kid must have told his or her parents about the toothpick trick and the parents reported the teacher. Just imagine this same kid when it goes into a science class and a teacher lights a light bulb using a potato. All hell will break out at that point.

Mika gives in to Joe Scarborough too easily. She should hand it back as good as he gives it to her. Personally I wish they would scrub the whole show and start over with all different people. When Joe first got the show he wasn't as bombastic as he is now. I actually thought the show had a chance at the beginning but more and more each morning I end up turning over to Washington Journal on C-span.

Brando @ 28:

Yes, Theory as in Scientific Theory, not Theory as in "Hmm, I've got an idea." One's a scientific model based on evidence, observation, is testable and makes predictions. The other one is just a hypothesis, but unfortunately most folks get the two crossed. If you deny evolution is an accurate model explaining the diversity of life on Earth, chances are A.) you weren't properly educated on it and therefore don't understand it B.) you've fallen for the religious-driven propaganda against it.

YourMom @ 12:

Life in Red State part 354:

The current biology teacher at our local high school refuses to cover evolution. It is part of the curriculum, but when she gets to the chapter on evolution she kips it. To cover herself, she tells the class it is against her religion, but they can read it in their own time if they want to.

Down here, I talk about evolutionary biology as fact (which it is) and despite a better understanding of Christianity and its tradition than most rednecks can bother with, am told I am a hell-bound atheist. I didn't get any teaching on evolution from biological perspectives until I started reading up on it, and learned the basics of the theory. Which then convinced me that 99% of Evilvangelicalism is crap.

And, Brando, that's very accurate. Only in physics does the term "law" get used. Relativity is a theory. Universal gravitation is a theory. Nuclear fission is a theory. By YEC standards, the atomic bomb could not exist, and these YECs want to use thermonuclear weapons on Iran....

P.K. McBurroughs @ 69:

Arrested for teaching evolution??

I guess Ben Stein is right. Christian ARE being persecuted in this country, and always have been.

Oh, wait. I have that backwards, don't I?

Either way, I'm certain he's still right. People practically have to sneak in and out of church every Sunday to avoid the jeering mobs of Atheists gathered outside.

No. In areas where it is the majority religion, even with a damn good bit of muzzling, Christianity proves to be remarkably dangerous. If the Church wasn't muzzled, everything from Iran and the Urals to the Americas would resemble Northern Ireland...

pissed off patricia @ 39:

♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 25:

pissed off patricia @ 23:

Best bumper sticker I have ever seen said, "Evolution is a theory just like gravity is a theory"

Thats pretty good, where can I get one?

Right here

Thanks for the link.

Gary @ 15:

Ahh yes, Darwins theory.

Theory I said.

Hee hee. One wonders whether Gary thinks we've never heard this canard before?

So, all, wanna have some fun with the IDiots? The teach-the-controversy, it's-just-a-theory folks?

Click here.

Gary @ 15:

Ahh yes, Darwins theory.

Theory I said.

You know what else, the existence of cells is a theory. So why don't you touch the grime on an old car and put it right to your mouth. The non-existent bacteria can't kill ya, it's only a theory! (Sarcasm, for anyone who is dumb enough to think I'm serious.)

All I have to say today: I wish that Hillary would just go away. I am not going to vote for her in November.

wisedup @ 78:

I once said to a anti-evolution nut...(just to please him) "God created evolution".....that satisfied him and shut him up for good. Did you ever notice,all good things that happen..god gets the credit..all bad and the devil did it....oh pleeeeeeeeeze....Darwin never said: "There is no god"..that I could ever find,yet somehow they feel threatened by him???????????????? OK...god created cancer,aids,and all germs etc.? but..god is a good god?...but if you question or doubt him,he'll set you on fire forever....? "Freedom of religon" is also none at all...our founding fathers were very wise.

Could you format that again? It hurts my eyes.

Besides, anyone who accepts monotheism (not Christian duotheism, Lucifer/Satan is undoubtedly a second god) must by the very nature of things accept Dystheism. Christianity is erroneously considered to be monotheistic, when Catholicism and the various Orthodoxies all accept various descendants of local pagan cults called "Saints" while all three big branches accept the existence of Satan. Satan seems to be a second God to the Fundies. Not to mention that Christian monotheism accepts a Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. So, there's a triune God (really a triad the way it seems to work in modern Christendom) and Satan (his dark counterpart, seemingly more powerful in Protestant radicalism) in all sects, with the older traditional sects clinging to old polytheism in the saint cults.

Christianity is not monotheistic.

ysbaddaden @ 82:

Unitararianism is monotheistic, and apparently a branch of the original monad Christians.

Funny thing is Unitarianism as we know it came from Transylvania.

Indeed. The earliest Christian sects before the Pauline branch became predominant were a sect of Jews who saw Yehoshua bar Yosef the carpenter who was crucified as Messiah. Interpretation of what that meant varied so much that any talk of "one" Christendom, no matter the denomination that it comes from automatically betrays an agenda. Christians today, even, differ little from Jews except that they think Yehoshua abolished Halakha. On the levels of theology, there's a great deal of similarity, the primary differences having to do with the role Yehoshua plays as Messiah and the relation thereof. The big trigger between Nazoreans and Ebionites and Paulines to separate from the Jews was the Bar Kokhba Revolt.

Funny thing is the first of the "Great 13 Heresies," were the Circumcisors who insisted all Christians had to be circumcised like the Jews. Of course that was a more dangerous rite then due to infection etc. The Paulites were trying to attract Pagans who didn't want to free their willy.

The information I got came from a Catholic Website (New Advocate?) but what they didn't say was what I suspect. These "heretics" were the actual Christian church in Israel, headed by the apostle James.

But they were destroyed along with the rest of Israel during the Diaspora of about 70 ce.

Me go now...

Ungowa...

wisedup @ 78:

Darwin never said: "There is no god"..that I could ever find,yet somehow they feel threatened by him????????????????

:)

They're threatened by Darwin because he solved one of the riddles with which they confounded god-skeptics: the illusion of design.

Darwin's mechanism of natural selection so elegantly demonstrated how complex organisms, clearly "built for" their surroundings, actually could come to be without an intelligent designer that it was a wonder no one had conceived the idea until the 19th Century.

The believers are now left only with cosmological riddles unsolved, but cosmology awaits its Darwin. And they know it.

Laura Bush bitches at the government of Myanmar to allow a US aid team in, after the US promises $250,000.00 (yup, a quarter million) in aid. Wow, sooo f'ing generous. Seems she has a long standing interest in Myanmar. Probably since yesterday, or maybe this morning. Hey Laura STFU. You don't speak for ANYONE BUT YOURSELF, dumb ass...

Karen @ 90:

wisedup @ 78:

Darwin never said: "There is no god"..that I could ever find,yet somehow they feel threatened by him????????????????

:)

They're threatened by Darwin because he solved one of the riddles with which they confounded god-skeptics: the illusion of design.

Darwin's mechanism of natural selection so elegantly demonstrated how complex organisms, clearly "built for" their surroundings, actually could come to be without an intelligent designer that it was a wonder no one had conceived the idea until the 19th Century.

The believers are now left only with cosmological riddles unsolved, but cosmology awaits its Darwin. And they know it.

Indeed. Too many Christians are still trapped in the God of the gaps conception of Him. When there are no more gaps, that version of God will vanish, hopefully for a better one. God does not get lessened by the discovery of His Laws and his humbling of our arrogance by making us only one among millions of species squabbling that are all equal is funny. It's very unfortunate that in trying to create a wonderful God, the Fundamentalists created a chained monster that will one day turn and rend them.

General_Rennenkampf @ 94:

Karen @ 90:

wisedup @ 78:

Darwin never said: "There is no god"..that I could ever find,yet somehow they feel threatened by him????????????????

:)

They're threatened by Darwin because he solved one of the riddles with which they confounded god-skeptics: the illusion of design.

Darwin's mechanism of natural selection so elegantly demonstrated how complex organisms, clearly "built for" their surroundings, actually could come to be without an intelligent designer that it was a wonder no one had conceived the idea until the 19th Century.

The believers are now left only with cosmological riddles unsolved, but cosmology awaits its Darwin. And they know it.

Indeed. Too many Christians are still trapped in the God of the gaps conception of Him. When there are no more gaps, that version of God will vanish, hopefully for a better one. God does not get lessened by the discovery of His Laws and his humbling of our arrogance by making us only one among millions of species squabbling that are all equal is funny. It's very unfortunate that in trying to create a wonderful God, the Fundamentalists created a chained monster that will one day turn and rend them.

I'm not a believer myself, but do have the same wonder as the late Carl Sagan about how religious leaders have not, by and large, embraced scientific discoveries by acknowledging that god's universe is even bigger and more awe-inspiring that originally thought. Why would they insist that we have learned all there is to know about god in the bronze age, and that further discoveries that contradict the bronze age understanding are the devil's deception?

Karen @ 96:

General_Rennenkampf @ 94:

Karen @ 90:

wisedup @ 78:

:)

They're threatened by Darwin because he solved one of the riddles with which they confounded god-skeptics: the illusion of design.

Darwin's mechanism of natural selection so elegantly demonstrated how complex organisms, clearly "built for" their surroundings, actually could come to be without an intelligent designer that it was a wonder no one had conceived the idea until the 19th Century.

The believers are now left only with cosmological riddles unsolved, but cosmology awaits its Darwin. And they know it.

Indeed. Too many Christians are still trapped in the God of the gaps conception of Him. When there are no more gaps, that version of God will vanish, hopefully for a better one. God does not get lessened by the discovery of His Laws and his humbling of our arrogance by making us only one among millions of species squabbling that are all equal is funny. It's very unfortunate that in trying to create a wonderful God, the Fundamentalists created a chained monster that will one day turn and rend them.

I'm not a believer myself, but do have the same wonder as the late Carl Sagan about how religious leaders have not, by and large, embraced scientific discoveries by acknowledging that god's universe is even bigger and more awe-inspiring that originally thought. Why would they insist that we have learned all there is to know about god in the bronze age, and that further discoveries that contradict the bronze age understanding are the devil's deception?

Simple. Because far, far too many of my fellow Christians, let alone my fellow Abrahamics, glorify printed words from the Bronze Age as testament and revelation from God and ignore that those words were from a limited time in knowledge and morality and even then, ignore most of those words beyond "Thou shalt smite the heathen."

A lot of my fellow Abrahamics, whether Jews (the founders of Israel), Christians (the Dominionists and Joel's Army-types) and Muslims (the Sadrist militias and Sunni militias) seem to only follow the dark side of their faiths, instead of trying to find a balance.

As a Western Christian of the St. Francis school, and St. Dominic, instead of the Tomas de Torquemada and Francisco Pizzaro school, I consider the dark Christians of the Religious Right to be heretics. They need to be fought indeed.

They aren't just a danger to moderate Christians or to traditionalists, they're a danger to Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, and especially to the atheists and the gays.

These religious right types need to learn mighty quick that God cannot be confined to their little box, and that Christianity of the school I follow and they as well is not monotheism, it's duotheism. If anyone is the servant of Ahriman-I mean, Satan, it's them. Satan is said to disguise himself as an angel of light. What better way for the dark god of the Christian tradition to win a victory than to insinuate his pious simpletons into the Church in the guise of the Dommies and their hydraic brethren?

I believe in Satan, yes. But I believe he is more to be found in the speeches of Tim Lahaye and in Christians who beat up gays because they are "sinful" than in the Religious Left.

Sorry about the ramble...

Peter G @ 99:

Karen @ 90:

wisedup @ 78:

Darwin never said: "There is no god"..that I could ever find,yet somehow they feel threatened by him????????????????

:)

They're threatened by Darwin because he solved one of the riddles with which they confounded god-skeptics: the illusion of design.

Darwin's mechanism of natural selection so elegantly demonstrated how complex organisms, clearly "built for" their surroundings, actually could come to be without an intelligent designer that it was a wonder no one had conceived the idea until the 19th Century.

The believers are now left only with cosmological riddles unsolved, but cosmology awaits its Darwin. And they know it.

Once again I must ever so slightly disagree with you Karen. There is no complete science yet. Thanks be to the FSM. There are still endless wonders to be explored in every science and though cosmology presents some of the more spectacular challenges there are very fundamental discoveries yet to be made. The one that interests me most is the origin of life which is almost entirely speculative even now. More science for ever and ever Ramen.

We don't actually disagree, Peter G. I agree with everything you said.

I was really just referring to the traditional arguments in favor of the existence of god. I did not mean to imply that all scientific riddles have been solved. Just that among the arguments vis-a-vis the existence of god, only the cosmological are left.

By the way, you said, "There is no complete science yet." I'm skeptical that there ever will be. ;)

Actually, now that I think of it, "the tear duct of Sweetwater Nebraska," may've been a line in the movie played by Gene Kelly as an HL Mencken stand-in.

However, Bryant did have the reputation of crying in speeches, and I understand he had a similar nick-name, but I need to find it.

Well one thing certainly different was Gene Kelly's presence as an HL Mencken type. I understand Mencken never attended the trial but merely commented on it in his regular column.

The movie was structured very much like a play with one master set, the court-room, and a few cut-aways a porch, a dining room, a meeting of business-men, the fictional minister's house with his daughter, the jail, Henry Drummond's hotel room, and of course the minister's Inherit the Wind speech at a rally. It amazed me that Chet Atkins (later Sheriff Lobo) was that good an actor. So of course dialogue would have to be restructured to fit these limitiations in physical space.

The biggest change of all, one that I'm not sure is accurate, is that the business men at the Scope's Monkey trial got John Scope's permission to be arrested to try the new Butler Law (that Bryant championed into passage), as a PUBLICITY STUNT. But then it went sour, when their town's reputation plunged partially due to Mencken's acerbic wit.

"Why do you state the obvious and pretend to superiority?"

eh?

"professional gadfly"? he was nominated three times and is credited with founding the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party.

"Clarence Darrow (Henry Drummond in the movie with Spencer Tracy playing) Agnosticism isn’t relevant."

I have found Atheists and Creationists both tend to assume he was an Atheist.

As for your little snide remark there's a rerun of Hee Haw on tv why don't you go watch it? more your intellectual speed after all.

Your sophistry does nothing to mask your talking down to people.

It was Claude Akins who played the reverend and Sheriff Lobo.

Chet Atkins was a country singer.

Jeeze, you can't tell these cracker names apart.

The site isn't a person.

Wasn't too long ago the the "ID" crowd tried to insert
fundamentalist dogma in the science classes in the Dover region
of my state, Pennsylvania. The "IDers" were bitch slapped by a Bush
appointed judge after they were easily proven wrong, let alone that fact
they had perjured themselves with their own words. The evangelical
school board members were all defeated in the next election.

The fraud fundamentalist/evangelicals might have short periods of success. Eventually they always fail because of their own arrogance and pride and general stupidity. The periods of religious insanity last too long, so many have suffered. It's sadly true of just about every denomination and sect.

Great performance. It's why I am against ALL cencorship.

I wonder how many Repigs rent that video? It's probably not part of home-schooling. I should send Lindsay Graham a copy.