I distinctly recall two polls taken deep into the runup to the current Invasion of Iraq.

Americans for the Invasion: 76%
American high school graduates who can find Iraq on a map: 24%

Hmm ..

76% + 24% = 100%

Could it be that the minority among us who know where Iraq is, are precisely the ones who knew the Invasion was gonna be a big mess?

Cool graphics, but I'd argue that the number of US citizens who could find Iraq on a map is far smaller than the approximately 20% indicated in blue.

BTW, what is the actual % breakdown of the three colors in our flag, anyone?

AFTER ALL THE BASHING, Here is what they've done to Barack Obama

the more they scream, the better Barack does!

MountainMan23 @ 1:

I distinctly recall two polls taken deep into the runup to the current Invasion of Iraq.

Americans for the Invasion: 76%
American high school graduates who can find Iraq on a map: 24%

Hmm ..

76% + 24% = 100%

Could it be that the minority among us who know where Iraq is, are precisely the ones who knew the Invasion was gonna be a big mess?

Yes. Did you think otherwise?

"BaScOmBe against" i would hardly consider that poll anything like a scientific sample

BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Bullshit @ 5:

AFTER ALL THE BASHING, Here is what they've done to Barack Obama

the more they scream, the better Barack does!

What the heck do we need elections for when we have internet polls? Bas how many hours did you spend voting Obama over and over again. Admittedly Obama is a righteous dude but no one over the age of two would buy this nonsense.

Good evening, BaScOmBe. :)

I personally believe the U.S. Americans are unable to do so because some people out there in our nation don’t have maps and I believe that our education like such as in South Africa and the Iraq everywhere like such as and I believe they should our education over here in the U.S. should help the U.S. or should help South Africa or should help the Iraq and Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future for us.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 8:

joe in oklahoma @ 2:

http://s205.photobucket.com/albums/bb58/Icon1948/?action=view&current=IfIwasaterroist.flv

TWO THUMBS UP!!!!

That was excellent! Pure and simple.

Wal-Mart lowers the cost of prescription drugs; so why can't other companies do the same? On a positive note, a bald eagle's wounded beak is getting a replacement.

Magnequench Hillary Clinton's 2nd major lie after Bosnia lie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piTda0Fcs6I

Is anyone else concerned that John W. McSame will have too much appeal in New England? If he takes one or two states that John Kerry won in 2004, we're in deep shit!

Why does this foreigner hate America?
And how many is a brazillion, anyway?

Karen @ 23:

Is anyone else concerned that John W. McSame will have too much appeal in New England? If he takes one or two states that John Kerry won in 2004, we're in deep shit!

Don't look now, Karen, but we are in deep shit. On May 7 i expect we will be in deeper shit.

YourMom @ 24:

Tequila @ 19:

Wal-Mart lowers the cost of prescription drugs; so why can't other companies do the same?

Wal-Mart lives only to drive other companies out of business.

Wal-Mart goes to companies and telss them how much they will pay for thier product. They then tell them that if they don't sell at that price they will not be in Wal-Mart. No major company can actually say yes or no.

Busted on GMA, Hillary Clinton on Walmart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZVpPGxuafA

Sadly hilarious

“The audience has to perceive the truth in something before it can laugh at it.” Gary Trudeau

Ron @ 28:

Karen @ 23:

Is anyone else concerned that John W. McSame will have too much appeal in New England? If he takes one or two states that John Kerry won in 2004, we're in deep shit!

I would be surprised if McCain takes any state. I am concerned about voting machine, caging, voter suppression and voter intimidation. I am worried and i'm bitter.

Already happening. Their is going to be some mashing and grinding of teeth in Indiana tomorrow.
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

Jenna's getting hitched.
Anyone wanna bet the guy's related to her?

I Like Pie @ 35:

Ron @ 28:

Karen @ 23:

Is anyone else concerned that John W. McSame will have too much appeal in New England? If he takes one or two states that John Kerry won in 2004, we're in deep shit!

I would be surprised if McCain takes any state. I am concerned about voting machine, caging, voter suppression and voter intimidation. I am worried and i'm bitter.

Already happening. Their is going to be some mashing and grinding of teeth in Indiana tomorrow.
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

I know, I live in the same town as Bev Harris and I follow what she's doing. She made the documentary "Hacking Democracy."

I checked out firefox but tonight I didn't need it.

Peter G @ 32:

Karen @ 23:

Is anyone else concerned that John W. McSame will have too much appeal in New England? If he takes one or two states that John Kerry won in 2004, we're in deep shit!

What I find a concern is how well he is doing with youthful voters. It is inexplicable.

The latest I've seen says otherwise. I tell the youngsters (18-30 year-olds, I'm 63)
that unless they want the draft reinstated to fill the ranks for 100 years of war they better vote for the democratic candidate.

Ron @ 38:

I Like Pie @ 35:

Ron @ 28:

Karen @ 23:
I would be surprised if McCain takes any state. I am concerned about voting machine, caging, voter suppression and voter intimidation. I am worried and i'm bitter.

Already happening. Their is going to be some mashing and grinding of teeth in Indiana tomorrow.
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

I know, I live in the same town as Bev Harris and I follow what she's doing. She made the documentary "Hacking Democracy."

I went into wikipedia and looked up the demographics for the counties that had the huge voter list purges. The either had a large black population like Gary Indiana or they have a large population of 19-39 year olds. They are purging demographic areas that would support Obama.

Saint Augustine @ 43:

Peter G @ 32:

Karen @ 23:

Is anyone else concerned that John W. McSame will have too much appeal in New England? If he takes one or two states that John Kerry won in 2004, we're in deep shit!

What I find a concern is how well he is doing with youthful voters. It is inexplicable.

The latest I've seen says otherwise. I tell the youngsters (18-30 year-olds, I'm 63)
that unless they want the draft reinstated to fill the ranks for 100 years of war they better vote for the democratic candidate.

Not sure all the Democratic Candidates are opposed to it, but it is a better shot than any Republican i can think of.

Peter G @ 42:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 39:

When i was really young my mom told me about the Three Little Pigs and Red Ridding Hood and Santa Claus. Then they sent me to school and told me about freedom and democracy and God.

Now i can get over the fairy tales and the jolly old man, but the other crap is unforgivable.

LOL. I know exactly how you feel.

When I was being indoctrinated in the public schools; my brainwashing was interrupted by the Iran-Contra Hearings. Nothing that is happening now; did not happen in the 1980s. Same people... same sh!t... different decade.

I Like Pie @ 49:

Peter G @ 42:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 39:

When i was really young my mom told me about the Three Little Pigs and Red Ridding Hood and Santa Claus. Then they sent me to school and told me about freedom and democracy and God.

Now i can get over the fairy tales and the jolly old man, but the other crap is unforgivable.

LOL. I know exactly how you feel.

When I was being indoctrinated in the public schools; my brainwashing was interrupted by the Iran-Contra Hearings. Nothing that is happening now; did not happen in the 1980s. Same people... same sh!t... different decade.

Well, i remeber when there were three tv stations and you had to have two tv's because the sound would be out on one and the picture tube would be out on the other. As bad as that was, at least we had black and white.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 47:

Saint Augustine @ 43:

Peter G @ 32:

Karen @ 23:
What I find a concern is how well he is doing with youthful voters. It is inexplicable.

The latest I've seen says otherwise. I tell the youngsters (18-30 year-olds, I'm 63)
that unless they want the draft reinstated to fill the ranks for 100 years of war they better vote for the democratic candidate.

Not sure all the Democratic Candidates are opposed to it, but it is a better shot than any Republican i can think of.

I thought that Hillary was planning on ending the war if elected. I am not so sure, after her psycho-babble about Iran. Honestly, I thought that Bill Clinton was a safe President. The kind of guy you could trust not to do anything too stupid. I'm not sure sure about them anymore. I don't want them in the White House. The idea of going to war with Iran scares the hell out of me. It seems like it has the potential to spiral out of control.

I Like Pie @ 53:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 47:

Saint Augustine @ 43:

Peter G @ 32:

The latest I've seen says otherwise. I tell the youngsters (18-30 year-olds, I'm 63)
that unless they want the draft reinstated to fill the ranks for 100 years of war they better vote for the democratic candidate.

Not sure all the Democratic Candidates are opposed to it, but it is a better shot than any Republican i can think of.

I thought that Hillary was planning on ending the war if elected. I am not so sure, after her psycho-babble about Iran. Honestly, I thought that Bill Clinton was a safe President. The kind of guy you could trust not to do anything too stupid. I'm not sure sure about them anymore. I don't want them in the White House. The idea of going to war with Iran scares the hell out of me. It seems like it has the potential to spiral out of control.

All contrived to let oil and energy prices to spiral out of control.

Global warming might wipe out tropical insects. Another officer speaks out against war with Iran, since we're over-stretched in Iraq and Afghanistan. How long before he gets fired?

I wish I had remembered that my new phone has a camera on it (I hate being forgetful), on Saturday I chanced to see the rare Hillary bumper sticker on a car in Eugene, OR. Next to it was an other sticker saying no to war with Iraq. It was my ironic moment for the day.

ecotopian @ 59:

I wish I had remembered that my new phone has a camera on it (I hate being forgetful), on Saturday I chanced to see the rare Hillary bumper sticker on a car in Eugene, OR. Next to it was an other sticker saying no to war with Iraq. It was my ironic moment for the day.

I can beat that (although i wish i couldn't).

I saw a huge Hummer a couple of weeks ago with a proffessionally made window decal across the back window that said:

Today A Soldier Died For Your Freedom

05/05/08 DoD Identifies Army Casualty Pvt. Corey L. Hicks, 22, of Glendale, Ariz., died May 2 in Baghdad, Iraq, of wounds suffered when his vehicle encountered an improvised explosive device. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 66th Armor Regiment, 1st Brigade Combat Team...

Sadly, I don't think anyone dying in Iraq is dying so much for our freedom but more to make some people even more undeservedly rich.

here is Hillary's Oswald threat and smear at Obama

nice of HRCs people to use a sniper rifle pointing at Obama in this despicable smear advert

Wal-Mart created a disgruntled
ex-employee.

Officer Not-So-Friendly @ 64:

This has nothing to do with anything. I just need to vent. Skip it if you wish.
(full disclosure) I'm pretty hopped up on pain-killers right now. About 2 months ago I cracked both of my lower wisdom teeth eating crap I probably should not have been eating at my age. I went to the Dentist who did a panoramic x-ray,cleaned up the jagged edges on the wisdoms told me I was about to have a serious problem with a different tooth and gave me a referral to an Oral Surgeon. I went to the OS and he insisted on his own panoramic x-ray, gave me a check-up and suggested extracting the two wisdoms and starting an implant on the other tooth. Of coarse by this time (May) I've already run through my Dental Insurance except for $182.00.
The procedures I had done today, if there are no complications, is just under 6 grand.
My economy stimulus plan check will almost cover the anesthesia. I told the surgeon that I thought I should at least get a free ham or something. Surgeons don't have great senses of humor.

I have had serious dental problems for years. I eat things and parts of my teeth break off leaving sharp shards that slice open the sides of my tongue. I can't afford dental care either, but you do have my sympathies. I bet the cost of one week in Iraq could pay for healthy mouths all across America without exception.

Karen @ 10:

Perhaps Bush will be invading Brazil next to prevent flag desecration.

And John W. McSame will support the move, wait a few days, and then criticize how the invasion went.

no law on the books regarding anything you want to do to any flag.
the 'flag code' is voluntary and merely guidelines.
considering that everybody and their dog now uses stars and stripes on everything from cookies, cakes to hats to welding helmets...

Tomorrow she folds or hands it to the thugs, gift wrapped.
http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/results/delegatecalculat...

Oktoberfest is the party of all parties. Looks like I need to check out their Mardi Gras.
http://alexanderfamilycircle.blogspot.com/2008/02/german-mardi-gras-floa...

Officer Not-So-Friendly @ 64:

This has nothing to do with anything. I just need to vent. Skip it if you wish.
(full disclosure) I'm pretty hopped up on pain-killers right now. About 2 months ago I cracked both of my lower wisdom teeth eating crap I probably should not have been eating at my age. I went to the Dentist who did a panoramic x-ray,cleaned up the jagged edges on the wisdoms told me I was about to have a serious problem with a different tooth and gave me a referral to an Oral Surgeon. I went to the OS and he insisted on his own panoramic x-ray, gave me a check-up and suggested extracting the two wisdoms and starting an implant on the other tooth. Of coarse by this time (May) I've already run through my Dental Insurance except for $182.00.
The procedures I had done today, if there are no complications, is just under 6 grand.
My economy stimulus plan check will almost cover the anesthesia. I told the surgeon that I thought I should at least get a free ham or something. Surgeons don't have great senses of humor.

I feel your pain. I need to pump 5 grand into 4 crowns to keep my mouth from falling apart. And every time I get a little ahead on money, my car breaks. Or the dog needs vet care. or something.

miss_kitty @ 76:

Officer Not-So-Friendly @ 64:

This has nothing to do with anything. I just need to vent. Skip it if you wish.
(full disclosure) I'm pretty hopped up on pain-killers right now. About 2 months ago I cracked both of my lower wisdom teeth eating crap I probably should not have been eating at my age. I went to the Dentist who did a panoramic x-ray,cleaned up the jagged edges on the wisdoms told me I was about to have a serious problem with a different tooth and gave me a referral to an Oral Surgeon. I went to the OS and he insisted on his own panoramic x-ray, gave me a check-up and suggested extracting the two wisdoms and starting an implant on the other tooth. Of coarse by this time (May) I've already run through my Dental Insurance except for $182.00.
The procedures I had done today, if there are no complications, is just under 6 grand.
My economy stimulus plan check will almost cover the anesthesia. I told the surgeon that I thought I should at least get a free ham or something. Surgeons don't have great senses of humor.

I feel your pain. I need to pump 5 grand into 4 crowns to keep my mouth from falling apart. And every time I get a little ahead on money, my car breaks. Or the dog needs vet care. or something.

Who's you dog's vet? I am overdue for a physical.

miss_kitty @ 76:

Officer Not-So-Friendly @ 64:

This has nothing to do with anything. I just need to vent. Skip it if you wish.
(full disclosure) I'm pretty hopped up on pain-killers right now. About 2 months ago I cracked both of my lower wisdom teeth eating crap I probably should not have been eating at my age. I went to the Dentist who did a panoramic x-ray,cleaned up the jagged edges on the wisdoms told me I was about to have a serious problem with a different tooth and gave me a referral to an Oral Surgeon. I went to the OS and he insisted on his own panoramic x-ray, gave me a check-up and suggested extracting the two wisdoms and starting an implant on the other tooth. Of coarse by this time (May) I've already run through my Dental Insurance except for $182.00.
The procedures I had done today, if there are no complications, is just under 6 grand.
My economy stimulus plan check will almost cover the anesthesia. I told the surgeon that I thought I should at least get a free ham or something. Surgeons don't have great senses of humor.

I feel your pain. I need to pump 5 grand into 4 crowns to keep my mouth from falling apart. And every time I get a little ahead on money, my car breaks. Or the dog needs vet care. or something.

True story. I was stationed in Germany in 2002. My wife's friend flew over to visit. She started complaining about her mouth hurting. I took her to a German Dentist. I gave the guy $300 to do what an American Dentist had told her would cost between $3,000 and $5,000.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 79:

America: Number One when it comes to the world's worst and most expensive dental care.

Britain comes a close second, Dental cares is very profitably outside the NHS in the UK,
the dentists grudgingly do minimum NHS work for set prices, and its common to see dentists fined for overcharging the NHS for work not done.
Its a cliche but prob true, theres no such thing as a poor dentist, pain = profit.

skippy returns from the funeral of his friend jose simon, the founder of the san francisco comedy day which was the annual free comedy concert held in golden gate park every summer.

January 20th, 2009 - The End of an Error

I Like Pie @ 80:

True story. I was stationed in Germany in 2002. My wife's friend flew over to visit. She started complaining about her mouth hurting. I took her to a German Dentist. I gave the guy $300 to do what an American Dentist had told her would cost between $3,000 and $5,000.

Jeez. Deutschland, here I come. You could get there and back and spend a bit of time and get your teeth fixed.

That may be determined tomorrow. We shall see.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 56:

CD @ 52:

This may be the most Pro-American bit of international satire I've seen since the Iraq War started.

In the event that Icaro Doria reads this.

Thanks.

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Did you see what he said about other countries?

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 94:

CD @ 93:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 56:

CD @ 52:

How did you arrive at that conclusion?

Did you see what he said about other countries?

Yes, he pointed out some horrible problems. How is that Pro American?

Are you saying that other countries being fucked up makes America great?

Please elaborate or give us a link to what you are talking about.

So, CD you are proud that America has fewer ignorant people than Angola has people with HIV?

An Iraqi sues for torture. Obama should walk away with NC.

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 100:

No, after closer study of the flags i am at a loss. Can you tell me which country is worse off than us compared to our ignorance?

I guess that I had the same question.

I am convinced. America is better than Somalia.

Since this is an open thread, I need to put a few things down that have been rattling around in my head.

When I voted in my primary, it was a week or so after my first choice for the Dem candidate dropped out - John Edwards -- and I had to make a very quick decision in the voting booth. I wish I could have my vote back. I wish my state's primary were tomorrow. Although I really have no problem that choosing a candidate has taken longer than expected, even though the so-called experts say it is hurting the Democratic party - I think that in reality, many of the states in play now are happy to be able to have a say in our ultimate candidate.

That being said, there can only be one winner. But I am bothered by quite a few things. Personally, it bothers me to no end that a blow-hard like Rush Limbaugh can get on the airwaves and spew forth to middle class republicans that choose to go forth and try to skew the election in favor of one or the other candidates.

( It bothers me that these republicans think that they are voting in their best interest, when in fact they are voting in favor of the monied interests - the very wealthy --- who will benefit, not the middle class)

It bothers me that Ms. Clinton appears to have gotten the support of Richard Mellon Scaife AND Rupert Murdock -- and it worries me what back room promises Ms. Clinton has made in order to secure their support. It bothers me that she might have promised them continued consolidation of the corporate media. And if that happens, it bothers me that that one final act will put the final nail in the coffin of what this grand experiment of a democracy attempted to do. It bothers me that with Ms. Clinton or John McCrazy as president, net neutrality will become lost and the voices of independent minded folks will disappear in favor of the big monied interests and the big money pay per view Internet suppliers.

It bothers me that Ms. Clinton has chosen the tactics that she has in order to win. I understand that she believes that she is the best candidate to win against McCain and is playing to win. I want a fighter in the white house and politics make strange bedfellows as they say... but it leaves an unsavory taste in my mouth now.

It bothers me that Ms. Clinton and McCain want to obliterate Iran. Iran is not Iraq. You think our economy stinks now, wait and see if we attack Iran.

I hope as people go to the poles tomorrow, that they vote for hope, they vote for peace, they vote for sanity.

CD? Do you have an answer yet?

Well if not i have a suggestion.

It is almost two months until July 4, more than enough time for you to write an essay on how proud you are that America is better than Somalia and C&L has been kind enough to give you a link to a visual example.

You could entitle it:

Americans Are Less Ignorant than Somali Women are Disfigured.

Kinda catchy, donchya think?

LibertyLover @ 105:

Since this is an open thread, I need to put a few things down that have been rattling around in my head.

When I voted in my primary, it was a week or so after my first choice for the Dem candidate dropped out - John Edwards -- and I had to make a very quick decision in the voting booth. I wish I could have my vote back. I wish my state's primary were tomorrow. Although I really have no problem that choosing a candidate has taken longer than expected, even though the so-called experts say it is hurting the Democratic party - I think that in reality, many of the states in play now are happy to be able to have a say in our ultimate candidate.

That being said, there can only be one winner. But I am bothered by quite a few things. Personally, it bothers me to no end that a blow-hard like Rush Limbaugh can get on the airwaves and spew forth to middle class republicans that choose to go forth and try to skew the election in favor of one or the other candidates.

( It bothers me that these republicans think that they are voting in their best interest, when in fact they are voting in favor of the monied interests - the very wealthy --- who will benefit, not the middle class)

It bothers me that Ms. Clinton appears to have gotten the support of Richard Mellon Scaife AND Rupert Murdock -- and it worries me what back room promises Ms. Clinton has made in order to secure their support. It bothers me that she might have promised them continued consolidation of the corporate media. And if that happens, it bothers me that that one final act will put the final nail in the coffin of what this grand experiment of a democracy attempted to do. It bothers me that with Ms. Clinton or John McCrazy as president, net neutrality will become lost and the voices of independent minded folks will disappear in favor of the big monied interests and the big money pay per view Internet suppliers.

It bothers me that Ms. Clinton has chosen the tactics that she has in order to win. I understand that she believes that she is the best candidate to win against McCain and is playing to win. I want a fighter in the white house and politics make strange bedfellows as they say... but it leaves an unsavory taste in my mouth now.

It bothers me that Ms. Clinton and McCain want to obliterate Iran. Iran is not Iraq. You think our economy stinks now, wait and see if we attack Iran.

I hope as people go to the poles tomorrow, that they vote for hope, they vote for peace, they vote for sanity.

Hey LibertyLover If you had to vote over I must remind you Hillary is now basically saying, vote for her or die ;)

You seem like a reasonable person, in that HRC just bothers you, it bothers me that she is a lying, panderer & like you I hope Indiana puts an end to her charade today.

Indiana can start the month by bouncing HRC & end the month w/the Indy 500 :)

Karen @ 110:

LibertyLover @ 105

I hope as people go to the poles tomorrow, that they vote for hope, they vote for peace, they vote for sanity.

Poles can vote tomorrow? Where, in Indiana? Now, that's a novel way to rig the election.

{Sorry} ;)

I hear they do in Warsaw. :)

Karen @ 114:

LibertyLover @ 108:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 106:

LibertyLover @ 105:

I hear you loud and clear.

Personally i think we should have all the primaries on the same day. That way the media would have a lot less to do with the process.

And instant run-off voting would be nice, too. Perhaps Howard Dean can work on that for the next Presidential election.

IRV for the presidential elections would be fantastic!

As for the primary system, the only thing that worries me about having one national primary is the increased difficulty for lesser-known candidates to make a national name for themselves. Beginning in Iowa and New Hampshire at least allows someone to come from nowhere, receive national attention without having to raise a billion dollars, and become a serious presidential contender.

Well we have to figure something out because this shit does not work.

Karen @ 114:

LibertyLover @ 108:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 106:

LibertyLover @ 105:

I hear you loud and clear.

Personally i think we should have all the primaries on the same day. That way the media would have a lot less to do with the process.

And instant run-off voting would be nice, too. Perhaps Howard Dean can work on that for the next Presidential election.

IRV for the presidential elections would be fantastic!

As for the primary system, the only thing that worries me about having one national primary is the increased difficulty for lesser-known candidates to make a national name for themselves. Beginning in Iowa and New Hampshire at least allows someone to come from nowhere, receive national attention without having to raise a billion dollars, and become a serious presidential contender.

Example, Obama. He wasn't always at the top.

CD @ 116:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 94:

CD @ 93:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 56:

Did you see what he said about other countries?

Yes, he pointed out some horrible problems. How is that Pro American?

Are you saying that other countries being fucked up makes America great?

I said it "may be the most Pro-American bit of international satire I've seen since the Iraq War started."

That isn't saying mcuh.

I am sorry you see it as satire and confounded that you see it as "Pro American."

I am still waiting for your explanation on that statement.

RTLM @ 118:

If the Democrats had a winner take all primary system, Hillary would be the Nominee now.

If we had a Monarchy Bush would win. If i had a dollar for every lie Rush Limbaugh ever told i would need body guards.

So what?

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 121:

RTLM @ 118:

If the Democrats had a winner take all primary system, Hillary would be the Nominee now.

If we had a Monarchy Bush would win. If i had a dollar for every lie Rush Limbaugh ever told i would need body guards.

So what?

So what? So the Democrats are very near nominating an unelectable candidate - Obama.

And which lies has Limbaugh told?

(specifics over obfuscation please)

Here's one: If Florida and Michigan had not broken the rules and Obama's name had been on the ballot Hillary might not be so eager to have their delegates included and worse, might be sitting at home watching it all on tv by now.

RTLM @ 123:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 121:

RTLM @ 118:

If the Democrats had a winner take all primary system, Hillary would be the Nominee now.

If we had a Monarchy Bush would win. If i had a dollar for every lie Rush Limbaugh ever told i would need body guards.

So what?

So what? So the Democrats are very near nominating an unelectable candidate - Obama.

And which lies has Limbaugh told?

(specifics over obfuscation please)</blockquote>

Thank you!

Your hand is tipped, you lay naked before us!

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 125:

Here's one: If Florida and Michigan had not broken the rules and Obama's name had been on the ballot Hillary might not be so eager to have their delegates included and worse, might be sitting at home watching it all on tv by now.

Hillary won Florida as it were. She has won all large population states (ie: CA, NY). Obama's lead is artificial and the result of the way Democrats hold their primaries empowering these "Super Delegates". No one else actually chooses the Dem nominee.

(Party Elite)

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 130:

RTLM wants Hillary and is defending Rush.

I just don't know what to say!

RTLM says Obama is unelectable.

I think RTLM is a ditto head.

/By crickey I'm in trouble now!

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 132:

I think RTLM has had his brain washed and can't do a thing with it.

Weren't you going to provide me with a Rush fact check(s)?

(hoping)

Man the right is scared shitless of Obama.

Karen @ 136:

RTLM @ 133:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 132:

I think RTLM has had his brain washed and can't do a thing with it.

Weren't you going to provide me with a Rush fact check(s)?

(hoping)

Bandwidth is far too expensive to fact-check Rush on these threads. I wouldn't want to bankrupt C&L by enumerating his lies.

Gosh, Karen, where would you even begin on a task such as that?

LibertyLover @ 137:

Karen @ 136:

RTLM @ 133:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 132:

Weren't you going to provide me with a Rush fact check(s)?

(hoping)

Bandwidth is far too expensive to fact-check Rush on these threads. I wouldn't want to bankrupt C&L by enumerating his lies.

Gosh, Karen, where would you even begin on a task such as that?

Like the inalienable rights of persons, HeadRush Limbo's lies are unenumerable. ;)

Karen @ 134:

RTLM @ 129:

xoites (Bitter before Country was Cool) defends Constitution @ 125:

Here's one: If Florida and Michigan had not broken the rules and Obama's name had been on the ballot Hillary might not be so eager to have their delegates included and worse, might be sitting at home watching it all on tv by now.

Hillary won Florida as it were.

As it were?

She has won all large population states (ie: CA, NY).

You don't mean "i.e.", which means "in other words." You mean "e.g.", which means "for example."

Obama's lead is artificial and the result of the way Democrats hold their primaries empowering these "Super Delegates".

Obama's lead is with the pledged delegates. The declared super delegates favor Clinton, so far.

No one else actually chooses the Dem nominee.

(Party Elite)

And so, the answer is to have a winner-take-all primary system that resembles the electoral college insofar as it could grant delegates disproportionately to the popular vote?

Yes. The Dems could potentially have an internal '2000. Where by the time the convention takes place, Obama could be so damaged that the "Supers" may return back to Hillary. Setting off bad behavior in Denver.

Or, at the very least perturb the supporters of the losing camp to either stay home or vote for McCain just to crap on the head of the other.

(Either way is fine)

RTLM @ 141

Yes. The Dems could potentially have an internal ‘2000. Where by the time the convention takes place, Obama could be so damaged that the “Supers” may return back to Hillary. Setting off bad behavior in Denver.

Or, at the very least perturb the supporters of the losing camp to either stay home or vote for McCain just to crap on the head of the other.

(Either way is fine)

Either way is fine? What? With you? What's your point? Why are you posting here?

You'll get no argument from me that the system we have is counterproductive. I'm all for reforming it.

Frontal lobatomies used to be a surgical proceedure until Rush came along.

Acronym Game Time ----- RTLM

1. Right-Thinking Loony Mind

2. Really Telling Lies Myself

3. Rush Troll Lies & Mutters

Anyone else?

BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Bullshit @ 5:

AFTER ALL THE BASHING, Here is what they've done to Barack Obama

the more they scream, the better Barack does!

Hey, did you get lost on your way to Arianna's Pre-K blog? It's over there ====>