FBI agents on Tuesday raided the offices of Special Counsel Scott J. Bloch, who oversees protection for federal whistleblowers. The agents seized computers and shut down email service as part of an obstruction of justice probe, NPR has exclusively learned.
FBI agents also searched Bloch's home and a Special Counsel field office in Dallas. A grand jury in Washington issued subpoenas for several OSC employees, including Bloch, according to NPR sources who spoke on condition their names not be used
Choice #8 The magical being returns pissed off and wants to know what the fuck is going on! Takes just one day to refit hell into the place all neo-cons deserve,twice the heat,twice the time, which they can spend playing king over each other....ceo
Well, "Obama" and "Hillary" are the tip-offs on which this poll swings. Obama gets the studly last name reference. Clinton gets the pussy first name reference. Something objective might read "Sen. Obama" and "Sen. Clinton."
FBI agents on Tuesday raided the offices of Special Counsel Scott J. Bloch, who oversees protection for federal whistleblowers. The agents seized computers and shut down email service as part of an obstruction of justice probe, NPR has exclusively learned.
FBI agents also searched Bloch's home and a Special Counsel field office in Dallas. A grand jury in Washington issued subpoenas for several OSC employees, including Bloch, according to NPR sources who spoke on condition their names not be used
ABC just picked up the story. The Cable Networks probably wont air this because they are pretty much owned by the USG
So you all think a poll on teh internets is serious? or a poll that asks this question "The worst possible outcome and Chuck Todd's head explodes trying to explain the delegate counts" is serious?
Here are the results of my poll based on the comments I see so far:
3 posters are pedantic to the point of needing some sort of psychological help and one poster is critical of the poll in a poorly written out critique, ie a typo and poor punctuation.
Mon, 05/05/2008 - 15:26 — Ruthless People (not verified)
Ignorant redneck: "One of his first encounters went poorly. He approached a man sitting alone at a table and was waved away. The man told me afterward he had no interest in meeting Obama. "I can't stand him,'' he said. "He's a Muslim. He's not even pro-American as far as I'm concerned.'' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/north-carolina-indiana-pr_n_100...
No doubt a Bush supporter. Little wonder we've been fucked the past 7 1/2 years?
Well, it's not like this is your final college thesis. Proofreading is not manditory in getting the point across.
I generally spew out a tirade, hit post, then grimace upon seeing the variety of grammatical faux pas staring back at me. Worst part is, the Interests never forget.
Johnny, last I checked (right before writing this), that's what 45% of the responders are saying....that Obama wins NC and Clinton wins IN. (You have to add the results of two of the options, which are the same scenario worded differently)
You should have had an option for either state being a wash. Even the liberal blogs are starting to get into the horse race mindset on the Dem primaries and caucuses. Proportional representation means that after all the votes are counted, a lot of Timmeh's "decisive wins" in these contests actually work out to a net win of 1 or 2 delegates. In Wyoming, 1 or 2 delegates is "decisive". In NC and IN, not so much.
So, I'm just wondering......would you be as upset if C&L was supporting Clinton and all the Obama supporters had packed it up and gone elsewhere?
I swear, Clinton and Obama supporters are sounding more and more like little school children who are taking their ball and going home when something doesn't go the way they want it to. Where is the third party when you really need it?
Your Poll should tell you that Hillary supporters are no longer reading Crook and Liars, can't say that I blame them, since you've tanked for Obama.
Where's that? I think you're making it up because there has been no yea or nay for either candidate on this site. And since they haven't come out for yours, you assume they're for the other.
As for your assertion that "Hillary supporters are no longer reading Crook and Liars," since you're here, I gotta say you're wrong. And not only are you here, I see all sorts of Hillary supporters say this site is for Obama. Just as many Obama supporters say this site is for Hillary.
Your Poll should tell you that Hillary supporters are no longer reading Crook and Liars, can't say that I blame them, since you've tanked for Obama.
That's false. I haven't endorsed anyone and the blogoshere knows it. I receive as many I'm a Hillary supporter as I do I am an Obama supporter. My goal is to defeat John McCain.
Is it just me or are 3 of the choices on that poll repetitive?
Yep. Very weird choices.
So, do you think that Obama will win Indiana and lose North Carolina? Or do you think that Clinton will lose Indiana and win North Carolina? Think hard!
Your Poll should tell you that Hillary supporters are no longer reading Crook and Liars, can't say that I blame them, since you've tanked for Obama.
That's false. I haven't endorsed anyone and the blogoshere knows it. I receive as many I'm a Hillary supporter as I do I am an Obama supporter. My goal is to defeat John McCain.
I have to rethink my top ten differences between progressives and conservatives.
I said that progressives look at things objectively, while conservatives believe that anything not explicitly in their favor is biased against them. But that pretty much applies to both Clinton's and Obama's increasingly infantile supporters.
Then again, perhaps they're not progressive?
After this election, I'll support certain individual Democrats if I truly believe in them. (I'm working right now on a campaign for a California state legislator I truly admire.) And I'll vote against Republicans in the most responsible way I can. But that's it. No more basic support for Democrats in general. I'll concentrate on electoral reform.
Aren't "Hillary wins Indiana and loses North Carolina" and "Hillary wins North Carolina and loses Indiana" the same as "Obama wins North Carolina and loses Indiana" and "Obama wins Indiana and loses North Carolina".
Well, "Obama" and "Hillary" are the tip-offs on which this poll swings. Obama gets the studly last name reference. Clinton gets the pussy first name reference. Something objective might read "Sen. Obama" and "Sen. Clinton."
That's a good point, except that Sen. Clinton's own signs read "Hillary."
Aren't "Hillary wins Indiana and loses North Carolina" and "Hillary wins North Carolina and loses Indiana" the same as "Obama wins North Carolina and loses Indiana" and "Obama wins Indiana and loses North Carolina".
Yeah. Funny how polls are sometimes. Do you think that Obama will get 6 points, while Clinton gets four? Or do you think that Obama will get six points, while Clinton will get 4?
Sometimes the polls are designed with false choices like these to skew the results. There was one a while back concerning gay marriage that asked, "Which do you gay marriage, civil unions or neither?" The idea was to split the gay-rights supporters into two, by leaving off the choice of "either marriage or unions." That way, it would appear that the vast plurality of those questioned were against gay anything.
As for this poll's author, I have no idea what s/he's thinking.
Aren't "Hillary wins Indiana and loses North Carolina" and "Hillary wins North Carolina and loses Indiana" the same as "Obama wins North Carolina and loses Indiana" and "Obama wins Indiana and loses North Carolina".
Yeah. Funny how polls are sometimes. Do you think that Obama will get 6 points, while Clinton gets four? Or do you think that Obama will get six points, while Clinton will get 4?
Sometimes the polls are designed with false choices like these to skew the results. There was one a while back concerning gay marriage that asked, "Which do you gay marriage, civil unions or neither?" The idea was to split the gay-rights supporters into two, by leaving off the choice of "either marriage or unions." That way, it would appear that the vast plurality of those questioned were against gay anything.
As for this poll's author, I have no idea what s/he's thinking.
Err..."Which to you support, gay marriage, civil unions or neither?"
Well, "Obama" and "Hillary" are the tip-offs on which this poll swings. Obama gets the studly last name reference. Clinton gets the pussy first name reference. Something objective might read "Sen. Obama" and "Sen. Clinton."
That's a good point, except that Sen. Clinton's own signs read "Hillary."
I've always tried respectfully to refer to Sen. Clinton as "Sen. Clinton." But the usage of "Hillary" is widespread, even in her own campaign. Some of it is probably to differentiate her from her husband, and be clear about it. Some of it is probably to personalize her -- after all, it's never a bad thing if voters actually think of you as someone they know on a first-name basis. Some of it is probably just habit.
Given her first name's ubiquitous usage, I'm skeptical the poll means disrespect.
Mon, 05/05/2008 - 16:48 — Mister Anderson (not verified)
The early exit polls on Huffpo are saying that Hillary is leading IN by 7 points and Obama is up 12 in NC.
Basically, we're back to where we started from which is a win for Obama since Hillary has officially ran out of real estate. She can't cut into his base to knock him out, he can't cut into her base to knock him out, and Obama is leading on all of the scorecards and is closing the Superdelegate gap.
I’ve always tried respectfully to refer to Sen. Clinton as “Sen. Clinton.” But the usage of “Hillary” is widespread, even in her own campaign. Some of it is probably to differentiate her from her husband, and be clear about it. Some of it is probably to personalize her — after all, it’s never a bad thing if voters actually think of you as someone they know on a first-name basis. Some of it is probably just habit.
Given her first name’s ubiquitous usage, I’m skeptical the poll means disrespect.
I think you're really overanalyzing this. It's not a very scientific poll in the first place. There's no representative sample of likely voters here. Hell, get a new IP address and you can vote as often as you'd like!
Just write it off to John playing around with his new polling software. Take him at his word , when he said (@30): Sorry, I fixed it. It wasn’t ready to be posted…
I’ve always tried respectfully to refer to Sen. Clinton as “Sen. Clinton.” But the usage of “Hillary” is widespread, even in her own campaign. Some of it is probably to differentiate her from her husband, and be clear about it. Some of it is probably to personalize her — after all, it’s never a bad thing if voters actually think of you as someone they know on a first-name basis. Some of it is probably just habit.
Given her first name’s ubiquitous usage, I’m skeptical the poll means disrespect.
I think you're really overanalyzing this. It's not a very scientific poll in the first place. There's no representative sample of likely voters here. Hell, get a new IP address and you can vote as often as you'd like!
Just write it off to John playing around with his new polling software. Take him at his word , when he said (@30): Sorry, I fixed it. It wasn’t ready to be posted…
I was responding to someone who accused the site of bias in favor of Obama. I was defending the site.
I'm soo tempted to vote in this poll. With Obama taking NC home under his arm, and within 4 points (and Chicagoland not even called yet) in Indiana -- but I want it to be an honest poll. A decent poll. A poll someone could trust -- unlike John McCain.
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120 votes and I'm first?
I say you need to spell check your poll...
"losses"? Who spell checks these things?
so this is a TEST of our ability to regurgitate the projections of pollsters and pundits??
As of the time I voted, its 44% clinton wins both, 39% obama wins NC and loses IN. Now I picked the later but obviously most picked the former...
analysis...the pollsters and pundits think obama will win NC and lose ID.
So 49% of C&L readers failed the TEST!!!
Is it just me or are 3 of the choices on that poll repetitive?
Anyone reporting on how many voters have been purged from the voter rolls? Mostly in areas that support Obama?
I'm convinced the word "LOSE", in all its forms, is the most misspelled word on the internet.
Cough cough 'losses' cough cough.
dumbest poll I ever saw..you rewoerded and created the same question 3 times
I voted for
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY-03vYYAjA
nubs...sweeping equals winning by more than 10%...the questions aren't redundant...and I suck at punctuation and abbreviations...i know that shit
Breaking News::: (but the MSM isn't reporting it ... wonder why.)
www.NPR.org, May 6, 2008 ·
FBI agents on Tuesday raided the offices of Special Counsel Scott J. Bloch, who oversees protection for federal whistleblowers. The agents seized computers and shut down email service as part of an obstruction of justice probe, NPR has exclusively learned.
FBI agents also searched Bloch's home and a Special Counsel field office in Dallas. A grand jury in Washington issued subpoenas for several OSC employees, including Bloch, according to NPR sources who spoke on condition their names not be used
conservatoire @ 3:
Problem be, that "losses" is a word, that slips thru spell-checkers. We need a syntax-checker too... that way, it would suggest "loses" :))
Poles are for lossers :)
H. The McCain Stream Media will continue to talk about Wright.
McCain and Me: Hero Worship Dies Hard (But When It Does...)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/me-and-mccain-hero-wors...
I heard on Thom Hartmann's show that in Indiana repugs are crossing over in "droves" to vote demorcratic?
Choice #8 The magical being returns pissed off and wants to know what the fuck is going on! Takes just one day to refit hell into the place all neo-cons deserve,twice the heat,twice the time, which they can spend playing king over each other....ceo
Well, "Obama" and "Hillary" are the tip-offs on which this poll swings. Obama gets the studly last name reference. Clinton gets the pussy first name reference. Something objective might read "Sen. Obama" and "Sen. Clinton."
♠Bangkok-Bob♠ @ 12:
ABC just picked up the story. The Cable Networks probably wont air this because they are pretty much owned by the USG
Losses bugs me almost as much as misusing its and it's.
Get it right. Not that hard....
Saloum @ 7:
Perhaps coming in a close second is the use of and spelling of, "their", "there", and "they're".
When I was a kid I used to grammer and spell-checked by alphabet soup.
That should be my alphabet soup
But I gotta cold today.
Saloum @ 7:
Drives me nuts when people type "loose" instead of lose. Don't see losses very often.
I also agree with another poster that some of the choices are redundant. This is possibly the funniest/saddest poll I have ever seen.
Karla @ 21:
polls are for lossers ... LOL
Saloum @ 7:
In your context, the word, "Internet", should be capitalized. :)
22 pissed off patricia Says: Saloum @ 7:
I’m convinced the word “LOSE”, in all its forms, is the most misspelled word on the internet.
Perhaps coming in a close second is the use of and spelling of, “their”, “there”, and “they’re”.
Thar thar now.
shawnharmon @ 9:
Saloum @ 7:
conservatoire @ 3:
YouMustFightTheBear @ 2:
So you all think a poll on teh internets is serious? or a poll that asks this question "The worst possible outcome and Chuck Todd's head explodes trying to explain the delegate counts" is serious?
Here are the results of my poll based on the comments I see so far:
3 posters are pedantic to the point of needing some sort of psychological help and one poster is critical of the poll in a poorly written out critique, ie a typo and poor punctuation.
Folks lighten up. It's the internet, not life.
pissed off patricia @ 22:
"Your", "you're", and "youre [sic]" are a close third.
Sorry, I fixed it. It wasn't ready to be posted...hehe And lighten up please.
i voted the straight wishful thinking ticket.
i'm an obaptimist.
John Amato @ 30:
Well I hope we don't loose our trane of impordent chat hear over misspelt wirds
It was difficult to choose between "Obama wins NC and loses Indiana" and "Clinton wins Indiana and loses NC" lol
Obama Wins North Carolina, Loses Indiana
Hillary Wins Indiana, Loses North Carolina
I guess it was too difficult those are the same questions.
Your Poll should tell you that Hillary supporters are no longer reading Crook and Liars, can't say that I blame them, since you've tanked for Obama.
Ignorant redneck: "One of his first encounters went poorly. He approached a man sitting alone at a table and was waved away. The man told me afterward he had no interest in meeting Obama. "I can't stand him,'' he said. "He's a Muslim. He's not even pro-American as far as I'm concerned.'' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/06/north-carolina-indiana-pr_n_100...
No doubt a Bush supporter. Little wonder we've been fucked the past 7 1/2 years?
bizona @34-
It was difficult to choose between “Obama wins NC and loses Indiana” and “Clinton wins Indiana and loses NC” lol
Yeah, it could do with two less questions, and that's a lot funnier than Amato's *ahem* glitchy spellchecker.
And I'll go with both of the scenarios you presented.
Well, it's not like this is your final college thesis. Proofreading is not manditory in getting the point across.
I generally spew out a tirade, hit post, then grimace upon seeing the variety of grammatical faux pas staring back at me. Worst part is, the Interests never forget.
"Obama sweeps" wins this "poll" ?
Uh...not. Hillary wins IN. Obama wins NC.
Duh.
Johnny, last I checked (right before writing this), that's what 45% of the responders are saying....that Obama wins NC and Clinton wins IN. (You have to add the results of two of the options, which are the same scenario worded differently)
#36 mamie says , exactly right!!!!!
You should have had an option for either state being a wash. Even the liberal blogs are starting to get into the horse race mindset on the Dem primaries and caucuses. Proportional representation means that after all the votes are counted, a lot of Timmeh's "decisive wins" in these contests actually work out to a net win of 1 or 2 delegates. In Wyoming, 1 or 2 delegates is "decisive". In NC and IN, not so much.
#36 Mamie...
So, I'm just wondering......would you be as upset if C&L was supporting Clinton and all the Obama supporters had packed it up and gone elsewhere?
I swear, Clinton and Obama supporters are sounding more and more like little school children who are taking their ball and going home when something doesn't go the way they want it to. Where is the third party when you really need it?
Mamie @ 36:
Where's that? I think you're making it up because there has been no yea or nay for either candidate on this site. And since they haven't come out for yours, you assume they're for the other.
As for your assertion that "Hillary supporters are no longer reading Crook and Liars," since you're here, I gotta say you're wrong. And not only are you here, I see all sorts of Hillary supporters say this site is for Obama. Just as many Obama supporters say this site is for Hillary.
So they must be doing 'neutral' right
Mamie @ 36:
That's false. I haven't endorsed anyone and the blogoshere knows it. I receive as many I'm a Hillary supporter as I do I am an Obama supporter. My goal is to defeat John McCain.
Thweeeeep!
lsantana @ 5:
Yep. Very weird choices.
So, do you think that Obama will win Indiana and lose North Carolina? Or do you think that Clinton will lose Indiana and win North Carolina? Think hard!
:)
John Amato @ 46:
I have to rethink my top ten differences between progressives and conservatives.
I said that progressives look at things objectively, while conservatives believe that anything not explicitly in their favor is biased against them. But that pretty much applies to both Clinton's and Obama's increasingly infantile supporters.
Then again, perhaps they're not progressive?
After this election, I'll support certain individual Democrats if I truly believe in them. (I'm working right now on a campaign for a California state legislator I truly admire.) And I'll vote against Republicans in the most responsible way I can. But that's it. No more basic support for Democrats in general. I'll concentrate on electoral reform.
Dr. Biitter Hussein (Mission Accomplished) Matt S @ 29:
Loosers, all ya...
C&L has DEFINITELY done a great job at being unbiased between Hill & Barry.
P.S. GObama!
Aren't "Hillary wins Indiana and loses North Carolina" and "Hillary wins North Carolina and loses Indiana" the same as "Obama wins North Carolina and loses Indiana" and "Obama wins Indiana and loses North Carolina".
radiationmonitor @ 19:
That's a good point, except that Sen. Clinton's own signs read "Hillary."
NJ Guy @ 53:
Yeah. Funny how polls are sometimes. Do you think that Obama will get 6 points, while Clinton gets four? Or do you think that Obama will get six points, while Clinton will get 4?
Sometimes the polls are designed with false choices like these to skew the results. There was one a while back concerning gay marriage that asked, "Which do you gay marriage, civil unions or neither?" The idea was to split the gay-rights supporters into two, by leaving off the choice of "either marriage or unions." That way, it would appear that the vast plurality of those questioned were against gay anything.
As for this poll's author, I have no idea what s/he's thinking.
Karen @ 55:
Err..."Which to you support, gay marriage, civil unions or neither?"
Slaw the elitist yokel @ 54:
I've always tried respectfully to refer to Sen. Clinton as "Sen. Clinton." But the usage of "Hillary" is widespread, even in her own campaign. Some of it is probably to differentiate her from her husband, and be clear about it. Some of it is probably to personalize her -- after all, it's never a bad thing if voters actually think of you as someone they know on a first-name basis. Some of it is probably just habit.
Given her first name's ubiquitous usage, I'm skeptical the poll means disrespect.
The early exit polls on Huffpo are saying that Hillary is leading IN by 7 points and Obama is up 12 in NC.
Basically, we're back to where we started from which is a win for Obama since Hillary has officially ran out of real estate. She can't cut into his base to knock him out, he can't cut into her base to knock him out, and Obama is leading on all of the scorecards and is closing the Superdelegate gap.
Winner: Obama
Karen @57-
I’ve always tried respectfully to refer to Sen. Clinton as “Sen. Clinton.” But the usage of “Hillary” is widespread, even in her own campaign. Some of it is probably to differentiate her from her husband, and be clear about it. Some of it is probably to personalize her — after all, it’s never a bad thing if voters actually think of you as someone they know on a first-name basis. Some of it is probably just habit.
Given her first name’s ubiquitous usage, I’m skeptical the poll means disrespect.
I think you're really overanalyzing this. It's not a very scientific poll in the first place. There's no representative sample of likely voters here. Hell, get a new IP address and you can vote as often as you'd like!
Just write it off to John playing around with his new polling software. Take him at his word , when he said (@30): Sorry, I fixed it. It wasn’t ready to be posted…
Obama wins North Carolina and loses Indiana 40% (1227 votes)
Hillary wins Indiana and loses North Carolina 6% (191 votes)
Aren't both of those the same thing?
Those are the correct answers though.
But this Hoosier voted for Obama.
I voted my hopes not my head
What time do the polls in NC and Indiana close?
It has to be the first choice because the TV says that's the way it's going to be.
who cares? are these socialists still running to be the big top dog criminal in chief? won't these people just go away already?
When Pat Buchanan, Tucker Carlson, Scarborough, and Limbaugh are supporting a primary candidate the supers need to end the thing.
Andy K Jong Il @ 59:
I was responding to someone who accused the site of bias in favor of Obama. I was defending the site.
I'm soo tempted to vote in this poll. With Obama taking NC home under his arm, and within 4 points (and Chicagoland not even called yet) in Indiana -- but I want it to be an honest poll. A decent poll. A poll someone could trust -- unlike John McCain.
It's official, Obama swept both North Carolina AND Indiana!!!
hank reardon, if you really believe either Clinton or Obama is a socialist, I have a bridge you might be interested in purchasing.
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