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Huffington Post founder Arianna Huffington appeared on The Colbert Report to promote her latest book, The Right is Wrong and speak to the particular metamorphosis of John McCain’s candidacy.

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Colbert: So (McCain) changed his opinions from 2000 to 2008. People do that.

Huffington: He has not changed his opinions. He has replaced his mind with George Bush’s mind. I wouldn’t be surprised if right now, he’s somewhere at the Texas ranch, clearing brush, like George Bush.

Colbert: Perhaps he knows that that’s what he has to do to get elected. He was ”The Maverick” in 2000; that did not get him elected. But if he toes the party line in 2008, maybe that…he’s just doing what he needs to do to get elected. What’s so wrong with that?

Huffington: You mean selling his soul in order to get elected?

Huffington: He was a real reformer. And now, he’s basically completely surrendered on everything. He wants us all to stay in Iraq of course indefinitely. And here’s the one little problem: that he has this kind of passion for Iraq. [..] Because he has this passion for Iraq, that’s his Viagra.

Colbert: He has…I guess the warning on that should be, if your erection last more than a hundred years, pull out.



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Actually, the McCain of 2000 wasn't exactly any great shakes either. Arianna should not hold that up as if it was some kind of ideal.

McCain Has Also Denied That He Voted Against Lincoln

That's actually the best explanation as to why McCain isn't the moderate people think he is (was).

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

Busy day for the old gal.

http://tinyurl.com/5xobvy

I love how she treats it as if Colbert's show isn't a comedy. It's wonderful. Solid interview.

Ariana should know about switching political parties to get what you want.

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He almost sank the USS Forrester. Though he failed to sink the ship, 132 US Service members died in the fire he started.

He got shot down.

He was a POW.

Didn't McSame say we'd be in Iraq forever. That's some Viagra.

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

Weaseldog @ 10:

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

What's sexist about that?

Leslie [Hussein] @ 11:

Weaseldog @ 10:

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

What's sexist about that?

Like I said. I'm tempted. :)

Weaseldog @ 10:

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

You need to get out more.

Does anybody know any republicans who actually think Colbert's schtick is
not a joke?

You know there are conservatives that are stupid enough.

He's commenting on his wanton lust towards objectifying her as solely a sexual pleasure device. The awareness of such a sexist desire is very new age of you. I bet you also practice tantra and recite pages from the Kama Sutra.

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He sold General Ulysses S. Grant whiskey and opium, and he was a lop dog for General Robert E. Lee. That was the beginnings of his maverickyness. He showed early on in his 30's that he could reach across the aisle and call his wife a c*nt.

L.A. Confidential @ 13:

Weaseldog @ 10:

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

You need to get out more.

Maybe. but i don't think that'll change way I feel about smart women.

He almost sank the USS Forrester. Though he failed to sink the ship, 132 US Service members died in the fire he started.

He got shot down.

He was a POW.

let's all just pretend that mccain was a democrat for a second. tell me you wouldn't be
seeing ads about the Forrester (wasn't it the Forrestal?) explosion.

And tell me you wouldn't be seeing ads about the POW confession of warcrimes... on repeat,
all the time.

and Obama should further employ her Flip-Flop charges against McSame as examples of how he's "...lost his bearings..." , and is no longer on the course he's historically set .

and this is why McFlip-Flop no longer deserves to be called a "maverick" !

And @ 15:

He's commenting on his wanton lust towards objectifying her as solely a sexual pleasure device. The awareness of such a sexist desire is very new age of you. I bet you also practice tantra and recite pages from the Kama Sutra.

There you go. My generation lived through the period when feminists were teaching us that if a man feels any emotions towards a women, it's the same as rape.

By that definition, I've been spent my life as sexist pig. And I'm leanring to take pride in it.

Am I the only guy here who finds her deliciously MILFy?

The Dems will keep funding Iraq for 100 years so they own it too.

This woman's first site was calling for the resignation of President Clinton but gives w and cheney a free pass.

Like kos, she is still gop and has divided the party with their hatred of the Clintons.

lyleleander @ 14:

Does anybody know any republicans who actually think Colbert's schtick is
not a joke?

Well ... I suspect, given his deft handling of the talking head meme, it's still funny to conservatives. Except that they think "it's funny 'cause it's true!" Hence Colbert's rise ...

OK you guys, does it make me sexist if I find Colbert sexy, attractive and smart and wouldn't mind jumping his bones? Sheesh.

Leslie [Hussein] @ 24:

OK you guys, does it make me sexist if I find Colbert sexy, attractive and smart and wouldn't mind jumping his bones? Sheesh.

Women can't be sexist. It's a guy thing.

Leslie [Hussein] @ 24:

OK you guys, does it make me sexist if I find Colbert sexy, attractive and smart and wouldn't mind jumping his bones? Sheesh.

No, because your a woman. However; did I tell you how much I look and sound like Colbert?
;)

Really tired of hash slingers out to sell their books ... books can be real cash cows, ya know! Get your stuff out there. It was also very very amusing to watch Fareed Zakaria out HO'in his wares with Glenn Beck. Priceless. But, nothing compares to the hypocrisy of Arianna Huffington. Go peruse her blog to understand true pandering and yellow journalism for the new millennium.

Leslie [Hussein] @ 24:

OK you guys, does it make me sexist if I find Colbert sexy, attractive and smart and wouldn't mind jumping his bones? Sheesh.

Not at all. It's what most men want. Lots of women willing to jump their bones.

Let me ask you this, would you jump the bones of a guy sexier then Colbert, more attractive and intelligent then Colbert but not doing very well in world of status and money?

Huffington rules. She plays this seriously like Colbert is a Repug. And... she's hot.

Huffington: "Because he has such a passion for Iraq, that's his Viagra."

Colbert: "If your erection lasts more than 100 years, pull out."

LOL!

L.A. Confidential @ 29:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 24:

OK you guys, does it make me sexist if I find Colbert sexy, attractive and smart and wouldn't mind jumping his bones? Sheesh.

Not at all. It's what most men want. Lots of women willing to jump their bones.

Let me ask you this, would you jump the bones of a guy sexier then Colbert, more attractive and intelligent then Colbert but not doing very well in world of status and money?

Jon Stewart, is that you?

Pol Pot-O-Cheesesauce @ 27:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 24:

OK you guys, does it make me sexist if I find Colbert sexy, attractive and smart and wouldn't mind jumping his bones? Sheesh.

No, because your a woman. However; did I tell you how much I look and sound like Colbert?
;)

PS I'm a MO, and I find Colbert irresistable. Go figure.

Colbert: He has…I guess the warning on that should be, if your erection last more than a hundred years, pull out.

If your erection lasts forever, call EMS. Seriously, is McSame going to volunteer his kids to fight in Iraq forever.

Pickles @ 33:

Pol Pot-O-Cheesesauce @ 27:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 24:

OK you guys, does it make me sexist if I find Colbert sexy, attractive and smart and wouldn't mind jumping his bones? Sheesh.

No, because your a woman. However; did I tell you how much I look and sound like Colbert?
;)

PS I'm a MO, and I find Colbert irresistable. Go figure.

You're from Missouri?

Huffington is correct. There is an awful lot to hate about McCain's current policies because they are in large part Bush's but it should be painfully obvious even to his supporters that McCain will turn on a dime when he politically needs to.  He has shown this many times in the past and he will do it again.  McCain simply can not be trusted.  If I were a McCain supporter (which I am not) I would keep one eye on that man at all times.  Backing or supporting McCain is like playing with the tail of a rattlesnake.

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

i dont care for mccain but the answer to your question is he was there!

Adriana Huffington? Didn't she used to be Newt Gingrich's BFF? Then didn't she discover that hubby, who she was pushing so hard for in the Repub Senate race a few years back and spent 25 million to do so, was pitching for the other side? Boy, she sure has had a lot of "awakenings" in the course of her career or whatever she calls what she does.

miguel @ 7:

Ariana should know about switching political parties to get what you want.

Switching from the GOP to Democrats is common, logical and rampant.

Switching from Dem to GOP has never been documented.

tyree @ 37:

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

i dont care for mccain but the answer to your question is he was there!

was Bush ?

lyleleander @ 14:

Does anybody know any republicans who actually think Colbert's schtick is
not a joke?

You know there are conservatives that are stupid enough.

I think quite a few did until he roasted bush at the white house press correspondents dinner in 2006.

Pat J @ 38:

Adriana Huffington? Didn't she used to be Newt Gingrich's BFF? Then didn't she discover that hubby, who she was pushing so hard for in the Repub Senate race a few years back and spent 25 million to do so, was pitching for the other side? Boy, she sure has had a lot of "awakenings" in the course of her career or whatever she calls what she does.

The current administartion is the driving force behind the millions who have defected the GOP since 2000.

Is there anyone funnier in entertainment than Colbert ?

no chance.

GOP'ers dont find him funny because they just dont do satire or humor for that matter.

Trey @ 21:

Am I the only guy here who finds her deliciously MILFy?

No, Trey, you're not.

;)

lyleleander @ 18:

He almost sank the USS Forrester. Though he failed to sink the ship, 132 US Service members died in the fire he started.

He got shot down.

He was a POW.

let's all just pretend that mccain was a democrat for a second. tell me you wouldn't be
seeing ads about the Forrester (wasn't it the Forrestal?) explosion.

And tell me you wouldn't be seeing ads about the POW confession of warcrimes... on repeat,
all the time.

Now that We the People have the power of the net
It's up to us.

My party has been spineless enablers for so long, i think maybe there really is just one party.
But if they won't fight fire with fire
I Will!
Politics is a dirty sport.

Chico Hussein @ 40:

tyree @ 37:

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

i dont care for mccain but the answer to your question is he was there!

was Bush ?

Perhaps Bush is better than McCain, he didn't kill any US soldiers during Vietnam. He only fried his own brain.

Chico Hussein @ 43:

Is there anyone funnier in entertainment than Colbert ?

no chance.

GOP'ers dont find him funny because they just dont do satire or humor for that matter.

They get pissed when they finally catch on that he's a satirical character. I've seen it happen.

Chico Hussein @ 40:

tyree @ 37:

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

i dont care for mccain but the answer to your question is he was there!

was Bush ?

that wasnt the question! was it?

Hillary ObamacCain @ 45:

lyleleander @ 18:

He almost sank the USS Forrester. Though he failed to sink the ship, 132 US Service members died in the fire he started.

He got shot down.

He was a POW.

let's all just pretend that mccain was a democrat for a second. tell me you wouldn't be
seeing ads about the Forrester (wasn't it the Forrestal?) explosion.

And tell me you wouldn't be seeing ads about the POW confession of warcrimes... on repeat,
all the time.

Now that We the People have the power of the net
It's up to us.

My party has been spineless enablers for so long, i think maybe there really is just one party.
But if they won't fight fire with fire
I Will!
Politics is a dirty sport.

It's not the party. It's the Republicans in Democratic clothing, that have hijacked the Party Leadership.

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He stood up for his beliefs and put his life on the line for his country. More than many of what his compatriots did.

Don't get me wrong, had I been old enough to be drafted I would have protested, and maybe even organized underground railroads to Canada and Mexico. It's just that we have so much against this guy that we shouldn't stoop to attacking what can be easily defended. We aren't the party of the swift boat, leave that to Rove and his ilk. He's already shown his ability to take out John McCain.

Chico Hussein @ 39:

miguel @ 7:

Ariana should know about switching political parties to get what you want.

Switching from the GOP to Democrats is common, logical and rampant.

Switching from Dem to GOP has never been documented.

Arianna is an opportunist and shouldn't be trusted...yet. She didn't display the proper judgment when it really mattered. I'll take a loyal Democrat over Huffington any day.

Weaseldog @ 47:

Chico Hussein @ 43:

Is there anyone funnier in entertainment than Colbert ?
no chance

GOP'ers dont find him funny because they just dont do satire or humor for that matter.

I've seen that first hand. I have GOP relatives who watch and love Colbert but refuse to watch Jon Stewart. I asked them why they dont watch Stewart and they say.. 'Because he's a liberal !"

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH !!!

November is gonna be a cakewalk.

[edited, Site Monitor.]

Weaseldog @ 10:

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

Why is it when I hear her speak I'm reminded of Arnold Ziffel, Sam Drucker and Mr. Haney?

Are we being hacked again ?
[No, use the block quote next time. You were eating up to much bandwidth.Thanks, Site Monitor]

BobD @ 50:

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He stood up for his beliefs and put his life on the line for his country. More than many of what his compatriots did.

Don't get me wrong, had I been old enough to be drafted I would have protested, and maybe even organized underground railroads to Canada and Mexico. It's just that we have so much against this guy that we shouldn't stoop to attacking what can be easily defended. We aren't the party of the swift boat, leave that to Rove and his ilk. He's already shown his ability to take out John McCain.

Bush was "Elected" twice
and we had a lot more against him.

BobD @ 50:

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He stood up for his beliefs and put his life on the line for his country. More than many of what his compatriots did.

Don't get me wrong, had I been old enough to be drafted I would have protested, and maybe even organized underground railroads to Canada and Mexico. It's just that we have so much against this guy that we shouldn't stoop to attacking what can be easily defended. We aren't the party of the swift boat, leave that to Rove and his ilk. He's already shown his ability to take out John McCain.

Try this.

http://www.wcltam.com/news/special/articledetail.cfm?articleid=23261

Chico Hussein @ 53:

Are we being hacked again ?

Not for now.

And the hackers’ red glare, their bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof thro’ the night that C+L was still there.
O say, does that Crooks and Liars Logo yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave

dennis @ 53:

Weaseldog @ 10:

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

Why is it when I hear her speak I'm reminded of Arnold Ziffel, Sam Drucker and Mr. Haney?

I give up. Why?

BobD @ 50:

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He stood up for his beliefs and put his life on the line for his country. More than many of what his compatriots did.

Don't get me wrong, had I been old enough to be drafted I would have protested, and maybe even organized underground railroads to Canada and Mexico. It's just that we have so much against this guy that we shouldn't stoop to attacking what can be easily defended. We aren't the party of the swift boat, leave that to Rove and his ilk. He's already shown his ability to take out John McCain.

It's his Vietnam record that is propelling him to the Presidency. We're the minority that know anything else about him. Most of his own supporters only know that he was a POW that was tortured in Nam. And they are unlikely to learn anything else.

He doesn't clear brush, he hikes the Grand Canyon. Look for that photo op this summer.

you can say what you want to about mccain but as i said he was there, any sailor whos seen carrier pilots land on a carrier will tell you that anyone landing on one is participating in a controlled crash every time tey land , as one whos see many pilots die landing on one i can tell you it takes guts , something very few of you who condem him for his service will never have!

Leslie [Hussein] @ 58:

dennis @ 53:

Weaseldog @ 10:

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

Why is it when I hear her speak I'm reminded of Arnold Ziffel, Sam Drucker and Mr. Haney?

I give up. Why?

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

Ron @ 56:

BobD @ 50:

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He stood up for his beliefs and put his life on the line for his country. More than many of what his compatriots did.

Don't get me wrong, had I been old enough to be drafted I would have protested, and maybe even organized underground railroads to Canada and Mexico. It's just that we have so much against this guy that we shouldn't stoop to attacking what can be easily defended. We aren't the party of the swift boat, leave that to Rove and his ilk. He's already shown his ability to take out John McCain.

Thanks.
I'm starting my Youtube ad and mass emailing campaign now! :D
Try this.

http://www.wcltam.com/news/special/articledetail.cfm?articleid=23261

Huffington: He was a real reformer. And now, he’s basically completely surrendered on everything.

No, he wasn't. He was always a political opportunist. In 2000, the reformer schtick was selling.

dennis @ 53:

Weaseldog @ 10:

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

Why is it when I hear her speak I'm reminded of Arnold Ziffel, Sam Drucker and Mr. Haney?

Or "Queen of Outer Space?"

miss_kitty @ 62:

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

Gosh, I was hoping he'd say that. But you beat him to it. ;-)

miss_kitty @ 62:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 58:

dennis @ 53:

Weaseldog @ 10:

Why is it when I hear her speak I'm reminded of Arnold Ziffel, Sam Drucker and Mr. Haney?

I give up. Why?

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

Ahh, if I find that foreign women have sexy accents, then I'm racist?

Hrmm, and I thought 'racist' was a bad word.

Leslie [Hussein] @ 66:

miss_kitty @ 62:

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

Gosh, I was hoping he'd say that. But you beat him to it. ;-)

Dream on. After I had explained the differences to him the other day, I was hoping he'd get it.

Weaseldog @ 59:

BobD @ 50:

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He stood up for his beliefs and put his life on the line for his country. More than many of what his compatriots did.

Don't get me wrong, had I been old enough to be drafted I would have protested, and maybe even organized underground railroads to Canada and Mexico. It's just that we have so much against this guy that we shouldn't stoop to attacking what can be easily defended. We aren't the party of the swift boat, leave that to Rove and his ilk. He's already shown his ability to take out John McCain.

It's his Vietnam record that is propelling him to the Presidency. We're the minority that know anything else about him. Most of his own supporters only know that he was a POW that was tortured in Nam. And they are unlikely to learn anything else.

Agreed. McCain's Vietnam war record is all that they see.  They think that the same Vietnam "maverick" exists today but in reality that "maverick" never existed.  McCain has shown a pattern of conformity when pressured.  Apply enough pressure and McCain will turn.  His whole life seems to be that way.

lyleleander @ 18:

Weaseldog @ 8:

He almost sank the USS Forrester. Though he failed to sink the ship, 132 US Service members died in the fire he started.

He got shot down.

He was a POW.

let's all just pretend that mccain was a democrat for a second. tell me you wouldn't be
seeing ads about the Forrester (wasn't it the Forrestal?) explosion.

And tell me you wouldn't be seeing ads about the POW confession of warcrimes... on repeat,
all the time.

I was going to tell Weaseldog to not make shit up (McCain didn't "start" the fire on the USS Forrestal), but you are probably right.

tyree @ 61:

you can say what you want to about mccain but as i said he was there, any sailor whos seen carrier pilots land on a carrier will tell you that anyone landing on one is participating in a controlled crash every time tey land , as one whos see many pilots die landing on one i can tell you it takes guts , something very few of you who condem him for his service will never have!

That's how I feel Tyree, but maybe lyle is right - elections are no time for scruples, I suppose.

tyree @ 61:

you can say what you want to about mccain but as i said he was there, any sailor whos seen carrier pilots land on a carrier will tell you that anyone landing on one is participating in a controlled crash every time tey land , as one whos see many pilots die landing on one i can tell you it takes guts , something very few of you who condem him for his service will never have!

Ya know, it's unclear how much he was tortured. And it's unclear if he was responsible for that tragedy on the Forrestal.
We can always dig and find out what happened(kinda). I'm pretty sure the truth would be covered up since his dad was an Admiral in the Navy.
But he did sign a war crimes confession( under duress).
Alot of other guys went through that too, and they didn't sign.

Weaseldog @ 67:

miss_kitty @ 62:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 58:

dennis @ 53:
I give up. Why?

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

Ahh, if I find that foreign women have sexy accents, then I'm racist?

Hrmm, and I thought 'racist' was a bad word.

Don't be obtuse.

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

Bombed the Vietnamese people from 25,000 feet. After he got shot down, he collaborated with the enemy.

John McCain Is No "Hero POW"
He was a survivor

http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcianhro.htm

McCain and Clinton is very much like Oil and Healthcare. They are both a problem to AMERICA.

It's time to change and untie the knots that bind the "culture of corruptions" and free AMERICA and our allies from the stonewallers that made this happen to an unprecedented level.

Government system belongs to the PEOPLE and should not be used to simply empower, or bail-out-the-failures-of, the greater mass and particularly the follies of the big business.

Our Government has become managed like a for-profit-private-business; with its tax collected revenues squandered to enrich corporate connected and accessible to government "gatekeepers" in forms of back door dealing to no-bid big government contracts to political cronies; And to empower the authorities to a spending spree without the consents of the tax-payers as a whole.

The Speaker of the House indeed has its POWER and its club of legislatures/congress to make the big business matters and the corruption to continue. Yes indeed the enablers of the greatest crimes against a population could not have happen without the crafty political will of the insiders.

But the guilty have UNDERESTIMATED to collective will and power of the greater OUTSIDERS jurist to surround and form its collective verdicts of those responsible for the crimes against humanities and the crimes against their own nation.

It is immoral to say the least. So bad that even the GODS of all GODS will hold them accountable for the Evil done..... if not the people.

The growing sinkhole in Texas with OIL drilling equipment being swallowed is ONE example of a metaphor.

The distrust by other nation to accept any help from AMERICA is another. (Burma)

Over 100,000 death as a result of devastation Cyclone is said to be connected to the Global Warming and another reminder of the Bushies weak policy to curb the problem while the destructions of OIL fields in IRAQ continue to burn and exacerbate the problems.

And NOW the rising prices of OIL and GAS is continuing to rise at an unprecedent scale that threatened every aspect of our economy and our productivity and our livelihood; which was caused horrid policy of the sinful BUSH/Cheney/Clinton Agendas. AMERICA has become know as the aggresors and the world police abusers rather than the respected peace maker; all because of the insanity of the President.

Has AMERICA been so naive particularly in the past 8 years that they think our leaders could pull this off without getting caught red-handed by the people they suppose to report to? Did they actually believe that controlling how news is reported will contain the damaged they have done? Did they actually think that they can pull-it-off by distracting AMERICA with entertainment and propaganda to manipulate public opinions? WRONG. The sheeps and the herders has awaken to the silence and noises of the beast that sits in house ( the White House and the House of Congress).

Old Billy Hussein @ 70:

lyleleander @ 18:

Weaseldog @ 8:

He almost sank the USS Forrester. Though he failed to sink the ship, 132 US Service members died in the fire he started.

He got shot down.

He was a POW.

let's all just pretend that mccain was a democrat for a second. tell me you wouldn't be
seeing ads about the Forrester (wasn't it the Forrestal?) explosion.

And tell me you wouldn't be seeing ads about the POW confession of warcrimes... on repeat,
all the time.

I was going to tell Weaseldog to not make shit up (McCain didn't "start" the fire on the USS Forrestal), but you are probably right.

Is there some way to find out for sure what happened there?

The story going around is that he wet started his engine, and jet of flame coming from the rear of his aircraft, set off a rocket motor on the plane behind him.

miss_kitty @ 62:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 58:

dennis @ 53:

Weaseldog @ 10:

Why is it when I hear her speak I'm reminded of Arnold Ziffel, Sam Drucker and Mr. Haney?

I give up. Why?

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

I confess ignorance too then, Miss Kitty. She reminds me of Zsa Zsa Gabor too. This is probably the only comment by Dennis that I've agreed with and makes me laugh.

Of course, I'd find it hilarious if she slapped a cop.

Trey @ 21:

Am I the only guy here who finds her deliciously MILFy?

No, you're not.

miss_kitty @ 72:

Weaseldog @ 67:

miss_kitty @ 62:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 58:

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

Ahh, if I find that foreign women have sexy accents, then I'm racist?

Hrmm, and I thought 'racist' was a bad word.

Don't be obtuse.

Actually, 'ignorant' better describes me.

I find that Hungarian and Greek accents sound very similar. I know the Greek language when I hear it spoken though. I married into a Greek family.

But Adrianna is speaking English in that interview. I wouldn't be able to identify her as Greek, solely from her accent.

tyree @ 61:

you can say what you want to about mccain but as i said he was there, any sailor whos seen carrier pilots land on a carrier will tell you that anyone landing on one is participating in a controlled crash every time tey land , as one whos see many pilots die landing on one i can tell you it takes guts , something very few of you who condem him for his service will never have!

Every landing is a controlled crash, whether it is a hang glider or a 747. That's common knowledge. There are a lot of jobs that take "guts".

Thought it logically makes no sense for a Democrat to cross over to the Dark Side and become a Repug, it has happened. A notable example is former Texas Gov. John Connolly.

miguel @ 7:

Ariana should know about switching political parties to get what you want.

You mean like Ronald Raygun and Charlton Heston? [deleted,flamebaiting. don't go there. Site Monitor] learn some history before you post BS!

Democratsrule @ 81:

miguel @ 7:

Ariana should know about switching political parties to get what you want.

You mean like Ronald Raygun and Charlton Heston? Go away little boy, learn some history before you post BS!

Let's not forget LIEberman.

Except he didn't start the fire. The fire was started by a rocket on an F-4 Phantom II misfiring during an electrical surge, causing it to fly and hit McCain's A-4 Skyhawk, which cascaded even further into future carnage. At worst, what you'd get is Republicans digging up Forrestal crewmen to say that the incident report was doctored, but those reports are so tightly reviewed (as compared, to say, wound reports) that the claim would simply not be believable.

As for his warcrimes confession, the Democrats should be using this as a bludgeoning device against McCain's advocacy of "enhanced interrogation techniques" (read "torture"). If those torture techniques can get false confessions out of our war heroes, it would very easily lead to false confessions by our waterboarded, sleep-deprived detainees.

lyleleander @ 18:

He almost sank the USS Forrester. Though he failed to sink the ship, 132 US Service members died in the fire he started.

He got shot down.

He was a POW.

let's all just pretend that mccain was a democrat for a second. tell me you wouldn't be
seeing ads about the Forrester (wasn't it the Forrestal?) explosion.

And tell me you wouldn't be seeing ads about the POW confession of warcrimes... on repeat,
all the time.

Dr. Acula @ 82:

Democratsrule @ 81:

miguel @ 7:

Ariana should know about switching political parties to get what you want.

You mean like Ronald Raygun and Charlton Heston?[deleted,flaimbaiting.don't go there. Site Monitor] learn some history before you post BS!

Let's not forget LIEberman.

I just threw up a little in my mouth.

I need some Pepto Bismol.

Weaseldog @ 75:

Is there some way to find out for sure what happened there?

The story going around is that he wet started his engine, and jet of flame coming from the rear of his aircraft, set off a rocket motor on the plane behind him.

Not the story I heard. The official Navy line is that the mechanical device preventing firing of the Zuni rocket had been removed before taxiing. The rocket was then relying on solely electrical control of firing, and there was an electrical surge when the plane switched from external to internal power. I think the geometry and the specifics of the rocket (won't fire because of a momentary jet flame) support the Navy story. The protocol for removing the mechanical devices (and allowing the rockets to be on electrical launch control) was that this should only be done when the plane was ready to take off, but the Forrestal crew had been removing these early.

As much as I dislike John McCain, there is no evidence that suggests he did anything wrong, and he apparently performed gallantly in trying to help others.

I know that if this were reversed there would be yahoo Republicans making all kinds of aspersions, but I just can't get down with that.

"He was a real reformer."

Arianna is so full of shit it makes the Jesus want to return just to toss her into the Red Sea. She'd probably part it with all the hot air she spews.

The Jesus doesn't understand how Arianna, who used to be a super-far-right-wing-mouthpiece that was hell-bent on destroying the Democratic party, is now talking about John McCain changing his mind?

Pot, meet kettle.

jesus out

mudshark @ 71:

tyree @ 61:

you can say what you want to about mccain but as i said he was there, any sailor whos seen carrier pilots land on a carrier will tell you that anyone landing on one is participating in a controlled crash every time tey land , as one whos see many pilots die landing on one i can tell you it takes guts , something very few of you who condem him for his service will never have!

Ya know, it's unclear how much he was tortured. And it's unclear if he was responsible for that tragedy on the Forrestal.
We can always dig and find out what happened(kinda). I'm pretty sure the truth would be covered up since his dad was an Admiral in the Navy.
But he did sign a war crimes confession( under duress).
Alot of other guys went through that too, and they didn't sign.

dont kid yourself mudshark the worst thing i could imagine in korea was being captured by the north koreans or chinese , i allways put one bullet aside for myself, thier were more prisoners who broke under torture in korea and viet nam then you will ever know, in korea the north koreans would make prisoners dig a hole deep enough to burry them in then line them up in front of thoes holes , form fireing squads than fire thier rifels at them , most of the time that were empty some times not and they kicked the bodies into the holes with the other prisoners watching , it was done over and over like playing russhian roulett , and that wasnt the worst that they did , as far as the dammage on the carrier he was on i doubt they can blame it on mccain off korea in 53 the boxer was enveloped in flames many sailors got killed and it wasnt a pilot who started the exploshions it was a crew chief storeing a panther jet and he accidently hit the fireing mechinism on the panthers guns and sent tracers into the gassed up panther jets in the front of him,

Aaron @ 82:

Except he didn't start the fire. The fire was started by a rocket on an F-4 Phantom II misfiring during an electrical surge, causing it to fly and hit McCain's A-4 Skyhawk, which cascaded even further into future carnage. At worst, what you'd get is Republicans digging up Forrestal crewmen to say that the incident report was doctored, but those reports are so tightly reviewed (as compared, to say, wound reports) that the claim would simply not be believable.

As for his warcrimes confession, the Democrats should be using this as a bludgeoning device against McCain's advocacy of "enhanced interrogation techniques" (read "torture"). If those torture techniques can get false confessions out of our war heroes, it would very easily lead to false confessions by our waterboarded, sleep-deprived detainees.

That is a very good argument about torture.

miss_kitty @ 62:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 58:

dennis @ 53:

Weaseldog @ 10:

Why is it when I hear her speak I'm reminded of Arnold Ziffel, Sam Drucker and Mr. Haney?

I give up. Why?

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

OMG, miss kitty, you are fucking unbelievable. You're going to act as if you're somehow offended by that while you let virtually EVERY other offensive remark go by you without ever speaking up, no matter how charged. Whatever your hard-on is for me why don't you just get it out it in the open. I know all of that about Arianna Huffington and Eva Gabor. The fact is her accent is very similar to Eva Gabor's accent on Green Acres; it's just that if you called her Eva, no one would know who you were talking about. And their home country has absolutely nothing to do with either one's race. IT's idiotic on your part to claim that I think all foreign women are the same from that harmless epithet.

Any conservative who is written about on here gets 10x worse the names thrown at them on he comments and you never speak out. Never. For some reason you choose mine as worthy of your contempt, and then you somehow make it into something as racist. You're an ignorant twit, miss kitty. I hope that's not racist or sexist. I don't mean them to be either one, and I'm not either one. But you are what you are.

i was there at the time and picked up eight crewmen out of the drink who were blown overboard!

dennis @ 89:

miss_kitty @ 62:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 58:

dennis @ 53:
I give up. Why?

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

OMG, miss kitty, you are fucking unbelievable. You're going to act as if you're somehow offended by that while you let virtually EVERY other offensive remark go by you without ever speaking up, no matter how charged. Whatever your hard-on is for me why don't you just get it out it in the open. I know all of that about Arianna Huffington and Eva Gabor. The fact is her accent is very similar to Eva Gabor's accent on Green Acres; it's just that if you called her Eva, no one would know who you were talking about. And their home country has absolutely nothing to do with either one's race. IT's idiotic on your part to claim that I think all foreign women are the same from that harmless epithet.

Any conservative who is written about on here gets 10x worse the names thrown at them on he comments and you never speak out. Never. For some reason you choose mine as worthy of your contempt, and then you somehow make it into something as racist. You're an ignorant twit, miss kitty. I hope that's not racist or sexist. I don't mean them to be either one, and I'm not either one. But you are what you are.

Oh come on Dennis,

Be like Hillary and grow some balls!

Chico Hussein @ 39:

miguel @ 7:

Ariana should know about switching political parties to get what you want.

Switching from the GOP to Democrats is common, logical and rampant.

Switching from Dem to GOP has never been documented.

Lieberman, anyone?

Old Billy Hussein @ 76:

I confess ignorance too then, Miss Kitty. She reminds me of Zsa Zsa Gabor too. This is probably the only comment by Dennis that I've agreed with and makes me laugh.

Of course, I'd find it hilarious if she slapped a cop.

I think Dennis was comparing her to ignorant hicks.

George W. Gump @ 92:

Chico Hussein @ 39:

miguel @ 7:

Ariana should know about switching political parties to get what you want.

Switching from the GOP to Democrats is common, logical and rampant.

Switching from Dem to GOP has never been documented.

Lieberman, anyone?

Isn't he still an Independant Republican rod waxer?

Leslie [Hussein] @ 93:

Old Billy Hussein @ 76:

I confess ignorance too then, Miss Kitty. She reminds me of Zsa Zsa Gabor too. This is probably the only comment by Dennis that I've agreed with and makes me laugh.

Of course, I'd find it hilarious if she slapped a cop.

I think Dennis was comparing her to ignorant hicks.

That didn't occur to me. I see now.

dennis @ 89:

miss_kitty @ 62:

Leslie [Hussein] @ 58:

dennis @ 53:
I give up. Why?

I'll tell you why. He thinks all foreign women are the same. Called he 'Zsa Zsa' in a post to me the other day. Now he's calling her 'Eva.' Never mind that the Gabor sisters and their mother were Hungarian immigrants and Ms Huffington is from Greece.

I'm sure to the untrained, uninformed racist ear, all foreigners sound the same.

OMG, miss kitty, you are fucking unbelievable. You're going to act as if you're somehow offended by that while you let virtually EVERY other offensive remark go by you without ever speaking up, no matter how charged. Whatever your hard-on is for me why don't you just get it out it in the open. I know all of that about Arianna Huffington and Eva Gabor. The fact is her accent is very similar to Eva Gabor's accent on Green Acres; it's just that if you called her Eva, no one would know who you were talking about. And their home country has absolutely nothing to do with either one's race. IT's idiotic on your part to claim that I think all foreign women are the same from that harmless epithet.

Any conservative who is written about on here gets 10x worse the names thrown at them on he comments and you never speak out. Never. For some reason you choose mine as worthy of your contempt, and then you somehow make it into something as racist. You're an ignorant twit, miss kitty. I hope that's not racist or sexist. I don't mean them to be either one, and I'm not either one. But you are what you are.

You're acting as if I have time to sit on the site 24/7 and scrutinize every remark that goes by.

Fact is dennis, you make it easy. And now you resort personal attacks. Thanks. I don't need to prove my point-you do all the heavy lifting for me. :P

tyree @ 87:

mudshark @ 71:

tyree @ 61:

you can say what you want to about mccain but as i said he was there, any sailor whos seen carrier pilots land on a carrier will tell you that anyone landing on one is participating in a controlled crash every time tey land , as one whos see many pilots die landing on one i can tell you it takes guts , something very few of you who condem him for his service will never have!

Ya know, it's unclear how much he was tortured. And it's unclear if he was responsible for that tragedy on the Forrestal.
We can always dig and find out what happened(kinda). I'm pretty sure the truth would be covered up since his dad was an Admiral in the Navy.
But he did sign a war crimes confession( under duress).
Alot of other guys went through that too, and they didn't sign.

dont kid yourself mudshark the worst thing i could imagine in korea was being captured by the north koreans or chinese , i allways put one bullet aside for myself, thier were more prisoners who broke under torture in korea and viet nam then you will ever know, in korea the north koreans would make prisoners dig a hole deep enough to burry them in then line them up in front of thoes holes , form fireing squads than fire thier rifels at them , most of the time that were empty some times not and they kicked the bodies into the holes with the other prisoners watching , it was done over and over like playing russhian roulett , and that wasnt the worst that they did , as far as the dammage on the carrier he was on i doubt they can blame it on mccain off korea in 53 the boxer was enveloped in flames many sailors got killed and it wasnt a pilot who started the exploshions it was a crew chief storeing a panther jet and he accidently hit the fireing mechinism on the panthers guns and sent tracers into the gassed up panther jets in the front of him,

All I said was "It's Unclear how much he was tortured". And that I believe to be true.
But I have a feelin we're going to find out in the general election. When the gloves come off.
And they will come off.

Wonder if Bill Clinton would have put blinders on and made a pass at this puke-bucket if she would have supported Hillary instead of obama. I think she is one JEALOUS BI**H. And upset because Bill didn't fall all over her. But then she sure can pick em....went after a gay man just for his money.AND then when he lost his bid for an election she divorced him and almost cleaned out his bankroll.

Democratsrule @ 91:

Oh come on Dennis,

Be like Hillary and grow some balls!

I got those, Demsrule. I just don't know why someone as meek as she's been toward me for the last 2 1/2 years has all of a sudden decided to start acting defiant. Like she's trying an experiment with her self-confidence or something as a writer and someone told her how best to express her anger. I'm glad to oblige her but I just don't get where she's coming from.

Leslie [Hussein] @ 11:

Weaseldog @ 10:

When I watch her in an interview, I'm tempted say sexist and flattering things about her.

She's smart, witty, attractive and has a sexy accent.

What's sexist about that?

I hate to say this but did you break your glasses and hearing aid...the only think about her is she wants to make you barf.

Marge @ 98:

Wonder if Bill Clinton would have put blinders on and made a pass at this puke-bucket if she would have supported Hillary instead of obama. I think she is one JEALOUS BI**H. And upset because Bill didn't fall all over her. But then she sure can pick em....went after a gay man just for his money.AND then when he lost his bid for an election she divorced him and almost cleaned out his bankroll.

She's not running for preznit.

Don't get me wrong tyree, I do think he was tortured. To what extent I do not know. This I would like to know.

dennis @ 99:

Democratsrule @ 91:

Oh come on Dennis,

Be like Hillary and grow some balls!

I got those, Demsrule. I just don't know why someone as meek as she's been toward me for the last 2 1/2 years has all of a sudden decided to start acting defiant. Like she's trying an experiment with her self-confidence or something as a writer and someone told her how best to express her anger. I'm glad to oblige her but I just don't get where she's coming from.

You dennis, if I were angry, I'd probably have been banned from this board long ago. And I don't know where you get this idea I am a writer.
Fact is, you provide hours of easy amusement.

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Has anyone ever thought how the RISING OIL and GAS can IMPACT our National SECURITY?

here'is a clue.

Plastic-OIL
Ships-OIL
Planes-OIL
Auto-OIL
Machine-OIL
Rubber-OIL
Food Manufacturing-OIL
Heating-OIL
Building production- OIL
High price - OIL

OIL price goes up so does everything else connected to production and consumptions. What is wrong is the WAGES for employee has not caught UP......WORKERS need to demand more PAY; if they want to sustain their family and life-style. With the growing population of retirees (baby-boomers); there will be a shortage of workers. Qualified workers. Our ECONOMY is dependent on the participation of the next generations of workers. Its time to be out-rage and demand fair wages for work. And FAIR is enough to at least sustain YOU in the current ECONOMY. CEO is reaping BILLIONS of dollars produced by workers and none is "FAIRLY trickling down to the WORKERS.

Correction must not only happen in the field of consumptions and trade..........IT MUST ALSO happen in the WORKERS environment. Its time to genuinely protect the PRODUCERS....The WORKERS that made productivity a successful venue.

YOU can begin by restoring the very basic protection....(restore the U.S. Constitution). Begin accountability and unblock the stonewallers. This nation and government belongs to you and me and NOT particularly to those we elected and hired to manage it.

If you don't recognize this very important aspect then YOU will subject yourselves to a Modern-time SLAVERY where YOUR RIGHTS will diminish.

mudshark @ 102:

Don't get me wrong tyree, I do think he was tortured. To what extent I do not know. This I would like to know.

well mudshark i dont know either one thing i know the asiatics are adept at torture as the french found out in the indo china war, and even the french had to use ex ss troopers for thier torcher of viet min prisoners for information they were french forhin legionairs mosty ex ss and german gestapo soldiers, and when they got hold of you you talked!

miss_kitty @ 103:

dennis @ 99:

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Sorry :o

miss_kitty @ 103:

You dennis, if I were angry, I'd probably have been banned from this board long ago. And I don't know where you get this idea I am a writer.
Fact is, you provide hours of easy amusement.

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Don't call me a racist, again, miss kitty. It's the second time you've done it without warrant or any explanation afterward.

Sorry, sitemonitor. I'm a lot of things, but not that.

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"Iraq is his (McCain) Viagra."

"The warning should read, 'If you have an erection that lasts for more than a hundred years, you should pull out." !!!

That was pure comedy gold!

Zsa Zsa Gabor Film I referenced earlier...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGrVeiAZM5Y

tyree @ 105:

mudshark @ 102:

Don't get me wrong tyree, I do think he was tortured. To what extent I do not know. This I would like to know.

well mudshark i dont know either one thing i know the asiatics are adept at torture as the french found out in the indo china war, and even the french had to use ex ss troopers for thier torcher of viet min prisoners for information they were french forhin legionairs mosty ex ss and german gestapo soldiers, and when they got hold of you you talked!

The muslims are very good at it too. sad to say. We need to get our people out of there asap.

mudshark @ 110:

tyree @ 105:

mudshark @ 102:

Don't get me wrong tyree, I do think he was tortured. To what extent I do not know. This I would like to know.

well mudshark i dont know either one thing i know the asiatics are adept at torture as the french found out in the indo china war, and even the french had to use ex ss troopers for thier torcher of viet min prisoners for information they were french forhin legionairs mosty ex ss and german gestapo soldiers, and when they got hold of you you talked!

The muslims are very good at it too. sad to say. We need to get our people out of there asap.

agreed

mudshark @ 110:

tyree @ 105:

mudshark @ 102:

Don't get me wrong tyree, I do think he was tortured. To what extent I do not know. This I would like to know.

well mudshark i dont know either one thing i know the asiatics are adept at torture as the french found out in the indo china war, and even the french had to use ex ss troopers for thier torcher of viet min prisoners for information they were french forhin legionairs mosty ex ss and german gestapo soldiers, and when they got hold of you you talked!

The muslims are very good at it too. sad to say. We need to get our people out of there asap.

It seems that every military is good at torturing POWs.

Huffington's site has become nothing more than a bad joke. What's with all these so-called ex-republicans now with their own "liberal" blogs that are just hate filled sites that cater to those who cannot and will not think for themselves? Sites like hers, Kos and Americablog have done more to divide the Democrats than any other source this campaign season. I hope when this is over they will all go back to the repuke party and spread their hate there. She is a disgustingly obnoxious woman, IMO.

She was on Bill Maher's last show of the season and normally he will fawn over her but she was so obnoxious interrupting everyone that finally he said something to the effect that someone who couldn't figure out that they were married to a gay man for years might not be the sharpest tack in the box. I was pretty shocked. So was she and she shut-up.

Bluesage @ 114:

She was on Bill Maher's last show of the season and normally he will fawn over her but she was so obnoxious interrupting everyone that finally he said something to the effect that someone who couldn't figure out that they were married to a gay man for years might not be the sharpest tack in the box. I was pretty shocked. So was she and she shut-up.

Ummm
She knew her husband was gay ; like all Republicans (which she really is) , she didn't care because she had security and proceeded to have children.

What a selfish , repulsive pig she is................

Weaseldog @ 112:

mudshark @ 110:

tyree @ 105:

mudshark @ 102:
well mudshark i dont know either one thing i know the asiatics are adept at torture as the french found out in the indo china war, and even the french had to use ex ss troopers for thier torcher of viet min prisoners for information they were french forhin legionairs mosty ex ss and german gestapo soldiers, and when they got hold of you you talked!

The muslims are very good at it too. sad to say. We need to get our people out of there asap.

It seems that every military is good at torturing POWs.

I'm sure we all can agree that no matter who is doing the torturing, it's evil. And as for McBain...from what I've read about his time at the Hanoi Hilton. He wasn't given special treatment at all, far from it...but I wasn't there, so the only ones who know what really happened are McBain and his captors.

I think making light of his captivity ain't cool. (and I'm not implying anyone here has)
Everything else though, go for it!

Say what you want, she looked mighty fine last night =)

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 116:

I'm sure we all can agree that no matter who is doing the torturing, it's evil. And as for McBain...from what I've read about his time at the Hanoi Hilton. He wasn't given special treatment at all, far from it...but I wasn't there, so the only ones who know what really happened are McBain and his captors.

I think making light of his captivity ain't cool. (and I'm not implying anyone here has)
Everything else though, go for it!

We agree.

Sadly, most people will listen to his words and pay no attention to his actions.

He told us that torture is evil and illegal, then he voted for it.

that silver tongue of his, will probably get the snake elected. Diebold wants it!

OK, so he claims he DID vote for bush, but how can he escape getting caught...

"Partying with Murphy Brown?"

If he's on our side, why does he keep undermining her? Even for the sake of comedy, all it makes me do is roll my eyes.

Frank Dufek @ 120:

If he's on our side, why does he keep undermining her? Even for the sake of comedy, all it makes me do is roll my eyes.

It's called satire. The hardest comedy to pull off. He's mocking Bill O'Reilly. It's not what he says. It's how obviously stupid he makes those positions apparent for all to see.

It's also the work of pure genius. No one does that shit better than Colbert.

I don't know. People changed after 9-11. Compare Dennis Miller then and now, for example. I'm not saying I agree with it, but maybe McCain did change his mind. In turn, people have to accept that all the qualities that they liked about McCain don't exist anymore.

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He got hisself shot down and was captured by yhe vietnamese where he told everything he knew about strategic combat information in return for being traeted like a hotel guest

Old Billy Hussein @ 70:

lyleleander @ 18:

Weaseldog @ 8:

let's all just pretend that mccain was a democrat for a second. tell me you wouldn't be
seeing ads about the Forrester (wasn't it the Forrestal?) explosion.

And tell me you wouldn't be seeing ads about the POW confession of warcrimes... on repeat,
all the time.

I was going to tell Weaseldog to not make shit up (McCain didn't "start" the fire on the USS Forrestal), but you are probably right.

tyree @ 61:

you can say what you want to about mccain but as i said he was there, any sailor whos seen carrier pilots land on a carrier will tell you that anyone landing on one is participating in a controlled crash every time tey land , as one whos see many pilots die landing on one i can tell you it takes guts , something very few of you who condem him for his service will never have!

That's how I feel Tyree, but maybe lyle is right - elections are no time for scruples, I suppose.

Kevin @ 117

I'm sure some guys think that Malkin, Coulter, Ingraham, etc look fine on occasion but they are still disgusting human beings. Same with Huffington.

MoveOn Necadawg @ 123:

c127 @ 4:

What did McCain do so heroic dur the war?

He got hisself shot down and was captured by yhe vietnamese where he told everything he knew about strategic combat information in return for being traeted like a hotel guest

I'm no fan of McCrazy but you just can't know that for a fact and just making stuff up about someone's service is what republicans do. There are so many reasons for not wanting him to be president but I think degrading his service is a bad move.

Huffingtonpost banned me recently for including in my comments the percentage of comments not going up (it had changed from 25% to around 50%).

ex. (HuffPo comment censorship currently 25% and rising)

The posts often dealt with Israel (and not in a hate speech way but with factual observations and links for support) though the last comment before the banning referenced the fact that the Iraqi oil wells had not been metered yet allowing for any theft to go undiscovered and uncalculated and provided links to confirm this.

The most irreverent I got was sometimes refering to Arianna as Zsa Zsa, and Hillary as the Hildabeast (in conjunction with the “monster” comment). I said Zsa Zsa was filtering any messages that went against the official narrative on Israel so that she could increase her TV time.

Arianna is now pretty much on a TV blitz for her book.

I had been registered and commenting on Huffingtonpost since about 2005. I had commented before on innocuous comments not going up and even wrote their administrators directly several times with the so-called offending posts asking what the problem was but never got a response.

When they banned me they deleted every single comment I had ever submitted to HuffPo. Hundreds of submissions that were OK for public consumption for 3 years before disappeared instantly. That has never happened on any site that I had been banned on before ever. Not on the Muslim forum (ummah.com) where the mod did not like my atheism but the other posters thought I was respectful and indicated they missed my input after the ban, not even on the Jewish Journal, who’s mod didn’t like that I stated that Israel has lied and murdered (as evidenced by the facts of the attack on the USS Liberty) and that they had used nukes (radiological weapons) in their recent attack on Lebanon. I would even grant that the evidence on the last one is sketchy but the recent updates on that story seem to confirm it. The Journal did however, let back in under another name a poster who made death threats to the monitor and threatened violence against me although under another handle.

If Arianna wants to be seen as the queen of the progressives (I like many of her positions myself and am also an Obama supporter) but actively scrubs information that is uncomfortable for Israel, who benefits?

Arianna benefits with lots of face time on TV and radio, and many of the progressive talk radio hosts, and TV commentators such as Kieth Olbermann, and blogs reference, cite, or interview writers from the Huffingtonpost. Isreal is making a big PR push for its 60th anniversary as well as the programming in conjunction with tomorrow’s Holocaust Remembrence Day, but focus too much on the victims of Israeli aggression and it appears the word goes out to make the problem go away.

BTW, one of the first times who Arianna was (other than the wife of a CA pol) was when I saw her at USC for a taping of Bill Buckley’s “Firing Line” with the topic being internet censorship. I forget if her husband had come out of the closet by then and if she was pre- or post- divorce at the time but I remember the argument she made clearly (she was on the right against people from the Electronic Freedom Foundation on the left) when she said it that severe restrictions are justified “because even if it protects just ONE child from abuse because of internet pornography, it will be worth it.”

Find the “Firing Line” transcripts in the archives and see for yourself. Michael Kinsley was the moderator I believe.

Her new mantra seems to be that restrictive filtering of factual information on the internet is justified because even if it only protects Israel from ONE factual story that it finds objectionable, it will be worth it.

The greatest threat involving information and propaganda is misdirection. If they get you to look the other way, they can do things in plain site. Couple that with the simply omitting coverage of things that conflict with the official narrative, and the manufacturing of consent is assured.

:) Viagra. :) :)

78 Weaseldog Says: miss_kitty @ 72:

I find that Hungarian and Greek accents sound very similar. I know the Greek language when I hear it spoken though. I married into a Greek family.

But Adrianna is speaking English in that interview. I wouldn’t be able to identify her as Greek, solely from her accent.
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If we could get her to say "D-ah-ling," I might be able to decide. Who really cares (not me, I'm gay), she's got an "exotic" sound.

Lance Thruster @ 127

Hildabeast? Huffington is one of the official Hillary Hate sites. I would imagine they loved your hatred for all things Hillary so it must have been your take on Israel.

Thing about Huffington is that she has always been an opportunist and always will be but she is treated by the rest of the ridiculous media as legitimate. I can't imagine anyone spending money on a book written by this woman.

112 Weaseldog Says: mudshark @ 110:

tyree @ 105:

mudshark @ 102:

It seems that every military is good at torturing POWs.
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I think this has always been true, for all nations, except a few odd "wars of honour". It was just never talked about. It's part of my objection to war-- period.

The difference now, in the USA, is it's gone pulbic and been given credibility and "legality" in the highest places. Now it's free to run rampant, "anywhere it likes", as "the population" has been de-sensitized. Not exactly being the "moral pinnacle" America espouses.

Huffington...The former soccermom repub 'turned' progressive firebrand.... I dunno, I tend to view her like some others... She can talk a good story from what I've seen... But it all smells a little too much like opportunity of the moment type yapping... I can't help thinking, IF things had worked out better for the old ex's political ambitions? She'd just as likely still be married to ol Mikey, he'd still be in the closet, and she'd be pushing the rigthwing agenda with as much enthusiasm as she currently puts into running that crap into the ground...

On the other hand, I am happy to see any former winger wake up regardless of what slap upside the head did that... I also must be slipping in my personal standards or somethin... Has she always really been that easy on the eyes??? She's starting to look kinda hot to me... Maybe there's somethin in the water out here...... I mean besides turnyagay cooties and flouride.... Hey, don't shoot me for parroting the rights main fear about the bay area. Ya know they already think we're all queers and tree-huggin godless commie lovin lib-ruls anyway.... I'm ust tweeking that pee in their pants irrational fearbug... heheh JD

Arianna is such a bright shining liberal star! She's fantastic, isn't she?

So where was she in 2000 when Al Gore was running for president? Here's what she said about Al Gore: Mr. Gore's entire career has been laden with untruths—all demonstrating a pattern of serial abuse of language, truth and reality.

He invented the Internet, discovered Love Canal and was the inspiration for "Love Story." He lives on a farm, was "always pro-choice"...

Arianna bears some of the blame for the dead in Iraq. Instead of telling the truth, she played a game to denigrate Gore.
I can't forget and neither should she.

TJM @ 133:

Arianna is such a bright shining liberal star! She's fantastic, isn't she?

So where was she in 2000 when Al Gore was running for president? Here's what she said about Al Gore: Mr. Gore's entire career has been laden with untruths—all demonstrating a pattern of serial abuse of language, truth and reality.

He invented the Internet, discovered Love Canal and was the inspiration for "Love Story." He lives on a farm, was "always pro-choice"...

Arianna bears some of the blame for the dead in Iraq. Instead of telling the truth, she played a game to denigrate Gore.
I can't forget and neither should she.

I'm not a big fan of her writing or her blog, but I think she really had some sort of an epiphany, or at least a slow conversion to the left. There's nothing about her that strikes me as disingenuous- even your example above strikes me as politics as usual.

Just sayin'...

Bluesage @ 130:

Lance Thruster @ 127

Hildabeast? Huffington is one of the official Hillary Hate sites. I would imagine they loved your hatred for all things Hillary so it must have been your take on Israel.

Thing about Huffington is that she has always been an opportunist and always will be but she is treated by the rest of the ridiculous media as legitimate. I can't imagine anyone spending money on a book written by this woman.

Very true regarding Hillary. Before I was banned, one poster tried to tell me that my comments were being blocked like hers because I was pro-Hillary. I said I was pro-Obama but that a good percentage of my comments never saw the light of day anyway. One of the more common things to happen there was that comment threads would be closed right away if there was too much opposition to the article/essay. Alan Dershowitz wrote a couple of smears against Dr. Norman Finkelstein and comments were closed on both before either one hit 25 comments, with the majority of those that did get posted supporting Dr. Finkelstein. This is a site that might get thousands of comments on a story on a particular villian of the BushCo criminal enterprise. Now they seem to shut down the comments early when Amb. Marc Ginsberg authors his latest apologetics for Israel.

Much as with Chomsky's "The Fate of an Honest Intellectual", the methodology of filtering out voices out of sync with the Israeli official narrative is at times subtle but ever-present. Arianna knows just how far not to go with her "courageous" progressive voice. Telling only part of the story is classic misdirection.

LanceThruster @ 135:

Bluesage @ 130:

Lance Thruster @ 127

Hildabeast? Huffington is one of the official Hillary Hate sites. I would imagine they loved your hatred for all things Hillary so it must have been your take on Israel.

Thing about Huffington is that she has always been an opportunist and always will be but she is treated by the rest of the ridiculous media as legitimate. I can't imagine anyone spending money on a book written by this woman.

Very true regarding Hillary. Before I was banned, one poster tried to tell me that my comments were being blocked like hers because I was pro-Hillary. I said I was pro-Obama but that a good percentage of my comments never saw the light of day anyway. One of the more common things to happen there was that comment threads would be closed right away if there was too much opposition to the article/essay. Alan Dershowitz wrote a couple of smears against Dr. Norman Finkelstein and comments were closed on both before either one hit 25 comments, with the majority of those that did get posted supporting Dr. Finkelstein. This is a site that might get thousands of comments on a story on a particular villian of the BushCo criminal enterprise. Now they seem to shut down the comments early when Amb. Marc Ginsberg authors his latest apologetics for Israel.

Much as with Chomsky's "The Fate of an Honest Intellectual", the methodology of filtering out voices out of sync with the Israeli official narrative is at times subtle but ever-present. Arianna knows just how far not to go with her "courageous" progressive voice. Telling only part of the story is classic misdirection.

That's one of the problems I had with her blog early on. IIRC, I made two comments there- one never appeared, one awaited moderation for a looooong time, and appeared only after the author, with whom I disagreed in my comment, took his sweet time to write a smarmy response in the comments section.

This was only a few months in, and they were already pulling some ethically shady (IMO) editorial shit. I was on topic, and not profane or insulting, I just disagreed.

Arianna's role in dividing the democratic party will bite her in the ass next November.

Not even the right showed this sort of disdain for their candidates despite their
overall dislike of every one of them.

She is despicable.

There are MILLIONS of dems who supported Hillary. They watched every media elite
pummel her. And many of us are PO'd about it.

the site of arianna makes me ill..
her two year assault on the clintons and her coronation of obama will end up destroying both candidates and her slimy treatment of the clintons will end up devastating the democratic party...
she used to use all of the same tactics against al gore by using right wing talking points against him and all of the naderites united giving us 8 years of bush...so now she used the same tactics against the clintons....and never reporting anything that will expose obama as the weak unelectable candidiate that he is...so wait until this fall .... mccain is going to destroy obama....
arianna is a disgrace....

Fbush is right...
arianna is despicable...
huff post has done a two year enquirer style hit job on the clintons...meanwhile no scrutiny on obama and this is such an outrage...then they screen remarks to keep it in the majority for obama...she should be held accountable for her bias and efforts to influence a national election....the same goes for americablog...what is up with aravois ....he is out of control with hate for hillary...he is overboard with it and has shown no perspective in his analysis and maybe one of the most unprofessional void of integrity when it comes to really taking a fair look at all of the candidates......some real mean stuff going on at america blog.......and most of the progressive websites have not been progressive at all...instead they have used house republican tactics from the impeachment days....reporting and spinning and making everything as outrageous and hateful about the clintons as possible....meanwhile bill and hill deserve way better.....they are first class

my red state hometown newspaper is way more ethical and professional at reporting the news than huffington post....

progressive???what a joke....it is carrying water for bush whitehouse by destroying the clintons...next year when the mccains move into the whitehouse all of the msm talking heads will be ranting about how this is a validation of bush policies and clinton era over...and whitehouse officials will be chiming in with same vile...
way to go arianna..
no one is better at politics than the clintons but they really underestimated the gang mentality from lib blogs....it has been way more destructive than msm

I'm with Old Billy on this one-the Phantoms I worked for the Air Force had interlock safety switches that detected landing gear "weight on wheels" to ensure that weapons could not be fired while on the ground. Same for the F-16. There's also some video of the Forrestal accident, they used to show us that once a year to scare the hell out of us about stray voltage and live ordinance. McCain was likely just a victim of circumstance...as I only vaguely recall, he was in the process of getting out of his aircraft when everything happened. I didn't care enough about McCain at the time to pay attention to that part, so I might have mis-remembered that detail.

Old Billy Hussein @ 85:

Weaseldog @ 75:

Is there some way to find out for sure what happened there?

The story going around is that he wet started his engine, and jet of flame coming from the rear of his aircraft, set off a rocket motor on the plane behind him.

Not the story I heard. The official Navy line is that the mechanical device preventing firing of the Zuni rocket had been removed before taxiing. The rocket was then relying on solely electrical control of firing, and there was an electrical surge when the plane switched from external to internal power. I think the geometry and the specifics of the rocket (won't fire because of a momentary jet flame) support the Navy story. The protocol for removing the mechanical devices (and allowing the rockets to be on electrical launch control) was that this should only be done when the plane was ready to take off, but the Forrestal crew had been removing these early.

Doesn't Arianna know that Bob Dole already has the Viagra concession cornered. After the election, McCain can try for the adult diapers spokesman position.

Watching this, I can see why Americans like Colbert so much: it's often hard to tell whether he's serious or not in the guise of a Republican chathost. He's got Republican fans as well as Democratic fans, and you can hear here that there are members of his audience who like McCain. To me, once you've recognized his shtick, it's no longer interesting, and I wish he were more clearly anti-Republican. I think he's really just an apolitical entertainer.

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