May 12, 2008 05:15 PM
Which Senators Would Accept the Veep Slot?
The Hill asked the other 97 sitting US Senators whether or not they would accept the offer to be #2. Richard Shelby's answer was probably the most, shall we say, colorful:
Sen. Richard Shelby (R-Ala.) ruled himself out because of disinterest and said McCain would look elsewhere anyway.
“Besides, there was a famous quote about the vice presidency from Franklin Roosevelt’s vice president,” Shelby said. “You should look that up.”
Shelby was referring to John Nance Garner, who served under Roosevelt from 1933 to 1941 and described the job as “not worth a bucket of warm piss.”
See what your Senator said here.




uh, does the temperature of the piss effect the price of the bucket?
Fine!! TWO warm buckets of piss!??
Probably not, but what an apt description of Dick Cheney
Yeah, it's a shit job compared to being a Senator from fucking Alabama.
Damn! They forgot to ask HRC!! That would've given the MSM outlets another 24 hours of drooling - buckets or no.
Russ Feingold or Barbara Boxer
Russ will be the first jewish president and he can help carried the midwestern states. He is from Wisconsin, and that is the state that literally founded the republican party.
Babara Boxer. She will be the first female jewish president and have help a lot of the liberal cause.
Both of them support the censure of Bush and voted against the invasion of Iraq.
the biggest obstacle to overcome being mccain's vp would have to be the embarrassment it will cause.
Begging the late Mr. Garners' pardon, but what with what Dick Cheney has done to the office, I think we can update FDR's veep pronouncement to this effect... The office of Vice President is now about as beneficial to the nation as a bucket of warm piss... OK, as another poster indicated.. maybe two buckets... Cheney has turned the office into some kind of pariah political position of the moment, but that's not even scratching the surface of what he has done to that office and the stability of the nation thru his bullshit.. Future pols will have to wrassle with what the offices official use and powers actually amount to.. In fact, given the nature of what Cheney's behavior has opened by way of a huge can of worms... The entire position of vice president may just have to be shitcanned... There is nada useful about a position of vice president of this nation if future holders are just going to pick up and continue where Dick Cheney will be leaving off... The cocksucker!!! JD
Let Cheney decide: Cheney?
Talking Points Memo has this interesting observation from one of its readers: "Don't you find it odd that three Republican Senators (Thad Cochran, 70; Pete Domenici, 76; Chuck Grassley, 74) all noted that they were too old to be Vice President. Kind of odd given the circumstances of the current Republican nominee..."
Blue Lensman @ 5:
You must've missed the Faux News Hillary for Veep fest recently. It was 24/7 I hear, but I never watch.
Not from Tenn. or a r but loved Alexanders answer.
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.)
“I know already who it will be: the man in charge of the search. There’s no need for me to respond. That’s how you get to be vice president.”
yuck-yuck
What about New Mexico governor Bill Richardson? Don't governors count?
Did anyone see DiFi's response?
sheesh.
Sen. Bob Bennett (R-Utah)
“Of course. Big house, big car, not much to do. Why not?”
HOW UTTERLY REPUBLICAN OF HIM. THAT SUMS UP THEIR VALUES AND APPROACH TO GOVERNANCE PERFECTLY!
The VP is above the law now.
You can spy, hand out contracts, out CIA agents, trash the Constitution, etc....
Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.)
“No, I can already preside over the Senate, and I do not enjoy spending a lot of time at ‘undisclosed locations.’ ”
Byrd FTW! As funny as it was to see SNL mock him for being old and senile, Senator Byrd is sharper than some members of the Saturday Night cast.
Haha!
Sen. Edward Kennedy (D-Mass.)
“I plan to stick with my current job until I get the hang of it.”
Not bad.
"Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.)
“If I were asked, I would ask some mental health professionals to visit Barack Obama. I just think Sen. Obama is way too smart to pick me. I’m not a good pick, and he’s smarter than that. That’s why he’s going to make such a good president.”"
That's awfully presumptive.
I remember when she was the county prosecutor focusing most of her prosecuting attention on teenagers, basically ruining kid's lives over things that today seem trivial like putting fliers on lamp-posts and gathering at parks late night. I have a friend who was poor enough as it was and was fined $2000 (1995 btw) to which he ended up in jail for a year for skateboarding home from school.
Then again at the time she was headed in that repug direction until Emmanual Cleaver showed her what's up!
getalife @ 16:
That applies only if you are a RepublicHUN. A Democrat would be impeached immediately.
Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.)
“I have a unique perspective on this. I am the only senator to have announced I am not running for president because there should be someone here to serve as the Senate’s designated driver. I intend to stay in that position. The Senate needs a designated driver to stay behind and work on healthcare.”
Yup, this bit of wisdom from the home State of the Microbrew Revolution. God I love Oregon...but I'm a bartender.
mudshark @ 14:
"Of Course, Who Wouldn't?"
geeezzzzzzzz.
I'm going to be nice and just say,
What an opportunistic........(You fill in the blanks)..........................
My hunch is Debbie Stabenow from Michigan. She did a little switcheroo with Obama on the FISA vote. Just a hunch but probably wrong.
cheney/mccain 2008. they've already written it into law in some office in washington. duck cheney, president and ceo.
Sorry no senators for Obama. His VP should be a popular Democratic governor without a lot of baggage, preferably from a Western state. I think McCain should pick Katherine Harris to be his VP.
We can learn alot and get ideas from History on this....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_D._Roosevelt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_M._La_Follette,_Sr.
Definately not a corrupt Bush connected globalist lobbyist.
Or ties to unsavory international figures....
http://www.firethelobbyists.com/facts.html
Bonkers Hussein @ 18:
Yeah, that one cracked me up as well.
I got a kick out of Orrin Hatch's unintentionally honest response:
The VP slot offers a good exit solution for Clinton.
1. Obama can offer Clinton the VP with the "unstated" agreement that she will be offered one of the upcoming Supreme Court seats.
2. Clinton will bring voters to the polls that Obama might lose to boycotting voters.
3. Clinton will be seen as a good soldier who sacrificed her ambitions for the good of the party and the good of the nations.
4. A deal to payoff her campaign debts can be negotiated with Obama.
5. If, the Obama/Clinton partnership results in a good fit she will have the option to stay on as VP until subsequent Supreme Court vacancies arise. If they chafe and can't stand each other, she can step down from VP to accept the Supreme Court seat.
6. The strong democratic majority in the Senate will agree to confirm her nomination, since she united the party and defeated McCain.
7. It provides a dignified exit from the compaign.
8. It ensures a liberal justice on the Supreme Court.
conservatoire @ 3:
“not worth a bucket of warm piss.” - yup, that would describe Cheney to a "P"
Garner was an interesting guy.
He was part Cherokee and his sister married a fullblood Native whom I think was Apache.
I imagine their marriage cause some discomfort in New England and didn't raise a single eye in Oklahoma.
I also imagine Garner was why FDR treated Natives with more respect than just about any previous President.
wow, that explains cheyney and his desire to torture anyone. he is simply trying to beat the piss out of as many as he can to get paid.
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa)
“No, I’d have Jon Stewart stand in for me. Jon Stewart. That’s my guy.”
Heh. Sweet.
casper46 Says: Not from Tenn. or a r but loved Alexanders answer.
Seconded. Man almost sounds too smart to be a Republican.
Ron @ 29:
You are either delusional, or incredibly stupid.
First, the vice president is chosen for their LOYALTY to the nominee and his agenda. Hillary sees her personal ambitions as front-and-center. She does not reflect Obama's agenda in any way, shape, or form. In fact, she has gone out of her way to legitimize Obama as a presidential candidate and is directly responsible for creating the potential of a "boycott". Again, she is not loyal to Obama or his agenda - which would also disqualify her for any Supreme Court position.
Second, Hillary's negatives are so huge that her presence on the ticket will negate the impact of any potential "boycott". She would revitalize the GOP base, which is currently demoralized with both their party and Mccain. There are many figures who Obama can pick that will appeal to her "kind" of voters, without polarizing the ticket.
Third, you are delusional. A dignified exit for Hillary is to concede today, after a big (expected) win in West Virginia, and then to continue on in the rest of the primaries campaigning for Obama. In that context, Obama's internet donors would happily support helping her with campaign debts. She still wouldn't be VP material (too polarizing, to high negatives) but she would regain the respect she's lost within the Democratic party.
THAT would be a dignified exit. But Hillary has chosen a disgusting exit. She is attempting to blackmail Obama by using race as a wedge issue, that she can taunt Obama with and use the resulting potential of a "white boycott" to blackmail him into making her the VP. There is nothing graceful about that. In fact, it reeks of Karl Rove, and I wouldn't be surprised if it came out later that HE was a ghost adviser for her.
You are either delusional, or incredibly stupid.
Oooh, looks like we have an anger management candidate here.
First, the vice president is chosen for their LOYALTY to the nominee and his agenda.
Yes, that's why Ronnie chose Mr. Voodo Economics.
Save the ad hominem's, they reflect poorly on your reasoning ability.
Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho)
“I would say ‘No, Hillary.’ ”
Me thinks that was Senator "Wide-Stance" throwing his own party under the bus! LOL
I thought "Vice" was Neocon for "supreme", no? A nominee to fool the electorate and a running mate to rule the world.
knuckledragger @ 17:
What does FTW mean?
my pick for dem vp still remains jim webb...and im sticking to it
even though webb will probably turn it down
but the best quote about the vp position comes from john adams
"My country has in its wisdom contrived for me the most insignificant office that ever the invention of man contrived or his imagination conceived."
there are two vp's who did rise above this....gore, who used his position positively and cheney, who used the position to create the galactic empire
Warm Piss? Cheney said it was 'a cruddy job,' and look what he did with it.
I think it can be what the Veep makes it.
Barbara Boxer would be AMAZING, but I don't want to lose her voice in the Senate, where it is just as badly needed. I think Obama should look outside of the Senate for a VP, and try to maintain/expand a strong majority in both houses of Congress.
Lonny @ 25:
McCain is reportedly going to make the decision all by himself. (Riiiiiiggght.) And I do hope the Senile Saint indeed chooses Harris. That would be fucking hilarious!
HEJHOG @ 38:
Actually, I think "vice" applies to Cheney quite well under its more pedestrian denotation.
Sorta the way Gonzo was a good "criminal attorney" as the nation's chief prosecutor.
uncle joe hussein mccarthy @ 40:
We really should amend the Constitution to offer the vice president explicit duties within the administration.
And to take away the tie-breaker role in the Senate. I've never been fond of that one.
I'd be happy abolishing the vice presidency altogether, except I think we'd see impeachment used as a political tool to install the Speaker a bit too often.
For fun, they should have still asked Senators Obama, Clinton - and McCain.
I love this! This is too much fun. My favorite responses have less to do with the wit than the translation. Here are my favorite in no particular order:
1. Go fuck yourself, Dick!
• Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.)
• Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyo.)
• Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.Va.)
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2. Go fuck yourself, Hillary!
• Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Conn.)
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3. Sour Grapes
• Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del.)
• Sen. Elizabeth Dole (R-N.C.)
• Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.)
• Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.)
• Sen. David Vitter (R-La.)
(Gee...ya don't think so, Dave?)
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4. You're kidding, right?
• Sen. Larry Craig (R-Idaho)
• Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa)
• Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)
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5. Please, please, please pick me! Pretty please? I know there's no chance, but please?
• Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas)
• Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)
• Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska)
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And then....I love the deluded and/or incoherent ramblings of people who seem, shall we say, less than politically savvy:
• Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska)
Ha! Yeah, because we're all waiting around for you to die. Don't you know that? The clock's a-ticking, Ted!
• Sen. George Voinovich (R-Ohio)
Oh, shut the fuck up!
• Sen. Ron Wyden (D-Ore.)
Whaaaa??!?!
knuckledragger @ 17:
No, you are wrong, sir. Byrd is sharper than ALL the SNL cast, present and past. By the way, I think Senator Webb protests just a tad too much...he's a shoe-in.
Jim Webb!!!
Ah, come on, big guy. You know you wanna...
Ron @ 36:
Ronnie who? Anyway, I see you ignored every single point in my post. Expected. The only person who's reasoning skills are in question here are yours. You seem to exist in this parallel reality where Hillary either deserves to be Vice President or on the Supreme Court, when in reality her conduct in this campaign should disqualify her even to run a dog pound.
It is an established fact that Hillary is running a cut-throat, "kitchen-sink" campaign centered on propping herself up by weakening and attacking Obama in every way possible. To then say that Obama should pick her as his running mate (even ignoring her horrendous negative ratings) or for the Supreme Court is literally either delusional or stupid. Nothing personal. Thats just what it is.
Paul,
You ask, "Ronnie who?" When I pointed out that Ronnie chose Mr. Voodo Economics.
Surely you jest?
First presidential election compaign is it?
Clearly, you don't respond to any points in my posts because you nothing to respond with.
Paul,
I did respond to your first point and it went soaring untouched over your head, the rest aren't worth wasting the time to address.
Go figure out who Ronnie and Mr. Vodoo Economics are and then come back and say you're sorry and we'll talk more.
Is Ron Paul talking to himself in this thread?
Has anybody pointed out that Garner didn't really say "warm bucket of piss?" He said, "Warm bucket of spit."
Funny. Even though FDR obviously never met current VP "I'm a Big" Dick Cheney he managed to describe him perfectly.
Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.)
“I’m looking forward to serving the people of Nevada and leading an expanded majority in the U.S. Senate well into the future.”
Yeah, and we won't be surprised when you piss all the opportunities of an expanded majority down your leg as well. Did anyone see his interview with Olbermann last week? "I was complaining to the President..." "Thank you for allowing me to be on your show..." Nice choice of language there - really shows you're tough to use words that imply 1) whining, and 2) base gratitude.
Could this guy act any more impotent, submissive, and worthless?
I laughed at Senator Wide Stance's reply, too.
Karen @ 54:
He's the only person he can find who will debate with him.
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