Open Thread
By bluegal Thursday May 15, 2008 10:30pm
USA Today: Rep. Tom Cole of Oklahoma, who runs the committee tasked with helping elect Republicans to Congress, said Tuesday's defeat in Mississippi — after losing GOP seats in other special elections in Illinois and Louisiana — was evidence that "a large section of the American people doesn't have confidence in the Republican Party." ...He said, "When you lose three of these in a row, you have to get beyond campaign tactics and take a long hard look: Is there something wrong with your product?"
Open thread below....
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We The People-First!
Speaking of the Neanderthal Party, Here's the Loud Sound that Huckabee Really Heard.
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1832
in the case of the gop their product/organization
SUCKS THE BIG ONE..........HARD
Yes. There is something wrong with the Republican Product. It is all sizzle and no steak. You can hire geniuses to market it but once a customer buys it disapointment and anger soon follow.
Time to high tail it out of town, boys. You have been found out and the populace is ready tar and feather you.
Do you know the way to Du Bai?
What is their new Motto?
"the Change you deserve"....that might turn out to be prophetic ...
many is the time i have been in the market for an idiot, darth, a turd blossom, and 30 liars..... but these days...... not-so-much
No fair comparing the Republican party to the Edsel. The Edsel actually did what it claimed it would do. Nobody was forced to accept Edsel policies if they didn't want an Edsel. The Edsel never called you un-American if you didn't choose the Edsel brand. The Edsel never started a needless war of aggression. The Edsel never violated your constitutional rights.
“When you lose three of these in a row, you have to get beyond campaign tactics and take a long hard look: Is there something wrong with your product?”
No, nothing wrong at all. Please keep blaming Bill Clinton for all your failures at least through the next election cycle.
The Edsell was actually a pretty nice car....and a nice ride....believe it or not ...( yeah- my granmom had one....which she kept hidden because everyone laughed at it)....there has been nothing about the past 8 years of Repug Regime Rule that has been a smooth ride....
I think a more appropriate vehicle might have been a 1960's Jaguar. Nice to look at and fun to drive. When it worked. Parts hard to find, mechanics few and far between. But it looked nice in your driveway.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 4:
Cheney does. Isn't that where Halliburton went to escape the taxes on the loot from all those no-bid contracts?
Re: He said, “When you lose three of these in a row, you have to get beyond campaign tactics and take a long hard look: Is there something wrong with your product?”
Yes, and apparently you haven't given a damn for all these years.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 9:
I think a more appropriate vehicle might have been some broken, piece-of-shit, about-to-explode Pinto that a used car salesman browbeat some poor customer into buying using every trick in the book, including bait-and-switch, puffery and outright lies about road safety hazards from which the model couldn't protect us anyway.
China can't get a break. Apparently, they learned how to deal with emergencies from Mike Brown. The Saudis flip off Bush. Alabama sheriffs take advantage of a law meant to feed prisoners. And on the positive, a touching
Olympic story.
I don't much think the Republican brand we've endured for the past seven years is the Edsel.
But I do think John McSame is. He's promising something maverick, something new, slick and exciting. When it's revealed, though, but for some tacky decorations, it's the same old shit as everything else. That was the Edsel.
I would agree, Karen except that their big sell is to make people think they are going to be rich and if they become rich they have to be sure to stick it to the poor so they can become more rich. All that happened is they conned a lot of people who became poor making the Republicans rich.
WC @ 11:
Yeah, isn't it amazing!? After these three elections -- these three recent ones in a few Congressional districts -- some of them think, "You mean, it's not our marketing? The people actually don't like poverty, lost jobs and endless wars?"
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution Says
The last game I attended at Memorial Stadium was a CFL game. I have a shot of the 55 yard line to remember it by. I like the new Oriole Park at Camden Yards because of the proximity to Harborplace and have been to several games there.
Did you ever stop in that bar on the NW corner of Johnnycake and Old Frederick? The building looked like an old gas station if I recall correctly.
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 15:
A very shiny, nicely-painted, piece-of-shit, about-to-explode Pinto, then?
CANNES, France - Michael Moore said new film would cover topics so "toxic" he probably should not make it. "It's something I shouldn't make, something that is dangerous," he said [in regards to his follow up effort to Fahrenheit 9/11].
"Our biggest enemy that we should have been afraid of during these last eight years was perhaps an internal one, and I don't mean ourselves," Moore said. "I mean people that were up to absolutely no good when it came to what was best for this country and best for the world.
"I think there should be a perp-walk coming out of the West Wing. The crimes that these people have committed go far beyond — and I'm not saying it on any kind of an emotional level or what my feelings are about Bush or whatever. I think there are very specific things that need to be looked at in terms of what they've done."
"What I'm going to say in this film is what probably 70 percent of them (audiences) don't want to hear," Moore said.
Associated Press Interview ~ http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/mikeinthenews/index.php?id=11503
Reuters Interview ~ http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/latestnews/index.php?id=11505
The sound quality on this video is pretty bad, but this is the Howard Dean I remember supporting throughout 2002, 03, and 04, before the media made an enthusiastic "Yee-hah!" into the most important issue in the world.
Karen @ 16:
WalMart shoppers might tell you differently, but not everyone shops at WalMart.
I feel like reposting this:
Republican Version of the Pledge:
I pledge allegiance to Jesus Christ and the Republican States of America. For that is the nation for which he should stand; one people, exclusive of others, 'cuz liberty's all for just us.
Karen @ 18:
How bout a Corvair Monza? A cheep imitation of a VW!
xoites (One White Vote for Obama) defends Constitution @ 15:
And actually, I'm not so sure that's their big sell.
I think their real sell to Americans is: "You've got it made. No country on Earth has it so good. Everything you have is all you possibly can have. But there are people who want to take it all away from you -- Socialists, Terrorists, Democrats -- and if you elect us, we'll stop them, so that you can continue living as you do."
They've never really changed that throughout the so called Conservative Movement that has culminated in George W. Bush. The problem is, things are getting so bad, that people aren't buying that pitch anymore.
At this point, the real slogan on the minds of Republicans appears to be, "Vote us back in, for we have not yet reached our nadir."
Oh, this is great! The actual scream-laden conversation Bull O'Really? had with his producer.
Paul's Bunions @ 23:
that car is a classic!
"Is there something wrong with the product?" YA THINK AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT YOU STUPID MORON! The 'product' is a total disaster for America. Stupid, stupid, stupid!
REPUBLICAN CONTRACT WITH AMERICA
This was their pledge, a la Gingrich! It's still on record. Remember they voted on it!
CoIntelPro against Repug DoucheBaggery @ 29:
FIFY
:P
Someone needs to arrest Oliver North. Now.
If anyone saw Hannity and Colmes, he made a very instigating aside which I do not want to repeat but it was quite similar to Huckabee's "joke", only it's intentions were thinly veiled, if at all. Quite scary. I don't know who/where else to tell this, but hopeful John or Nicole or one of the other posters here could let the proper people know so we can put North behind bars before he can do any more harm.
Did anyone catch the news that Saudi Arabia again thumbed its nose at Bush's request (2nd one this year) for more oil?
Also noteworthy was the announcement in the news about the administration's decision to halt oil deposits into the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) after initially refusing.
In honor of Bush's decision, I have assembled a little journey down memory lane. Enjoy!
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2008:
Bush halts deposits into the SPR. Bush had opposed halting the shipments, arguing that such a relatively small amount of oil would not influence prices.
2006:
President Bush...said he has directed the Energy Department to suspend deposits to the Strategic Petroleum Reserve through the summer -- to boost oil supply over the short term. By deferring deposits until the fall, he said, "we'll leave a little more oil on the market. Every little bit helps." Link
2004:
Despite urges from others, incl. John Kerry, Bush refuses to halt deposits. In May 2004, President Bush told reporters at the White House, "We will not play politics with the Strategic Petroleum Reserve. He added that the SPR exists "in case of major disruptions of energy supply," and stopping deposits or dipping into the reserve would put the U.S. "in a worse position" in the war on terror. Link
Let's see what Scott McClellan said at the time:
White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Tuesday the administration opposed using supplies from the reserve because independent analysts have concluded the impact on prices would be minor and that it is important to have necessary resources in case of a severe disruption in supplies. Link
2000:
In September 2000, then-Gov. George W. Bush criticized President Clinton for proposing to use the strategic oil reserve in response to high prices:
Link
That O'Really parody video seems very realistic to me. I guess that it's debatable about whether that's a good or a bad thing for a parody. :-)
its amazing that the madison avenue consumer mindset is such a fundamental part of a political party, or a government for that matter.
Here the republicans are questioning their "Brand", meanwhile their madison avenue croneys are marketing and changing the image of America and its armed forces to citizens as if its the next best thing to a work study program.
They've changed the name of soldier citizens to warrior citizens (WTF does that mean..."Warriors come out to play yay?")
somehow consumer capitalism, with all the advertising scams from folks like Darren from Bewitch, is as embedded in this Military industrial complex administration like a tick in the nether regions of some mongrel,
Lockheed martin comes to mind...
Didn't it start (at least in this modern era) with "G" (uh oh, now he's coming after me for calling him "G")? I recall that he talked about how to best target ATF agents.
Test.
(Just tried posting a note...didn't show up)
Thanks for the YouTube on the Edsel...looks just like the one in my garage.
obama smacks down both bush & mccain, the house rejects war funding, conyers says he's about to arrest rove, huckabee eliminates himself from any veep consideration, and the neocons lose their third straight special election.
yeah, i'd say we're about 0:28 into the overture...
hang on to your hats, pardners, it's gonna be a heckuva show...
okay are you still trying to figure out which car ? how about a YUGO? or a GMC Pacer? or a Pinto? or a Vega Hatchback ?
bullfrog @ 37:
"Judgement Day is coming...they might not like what it's gonna say...judgement day is coming...the holy hypocrites are gonna pay..."
--Wackiavelli
The fact that they look at it as a product and not providing political representation is a start. Arrogant expletive-heads.
A most disgusting this what is going on, is the historical treason on Chamberlain.
This guy was trying to prevent WW2.
With his Hitler "deal", he knew that the UK, who was only 1 generation away from WW1, would have to fight the Germans again, in case the deal would be broken.
Nobody wanted war at that time. Hell, even most Germans didn't want an other war.
It were the Nazis who wanted war above all. And their bankers who would benefit from it. People like grandpa Bush.
Hey!!
The Edsel ran on $0.15 a gallon gas!
Not like today's cars !!
The country is heading in the right path, that is, the left path. That said, not only should Dems unite for the election but we all need to unite to keep each other safe as well, both our health and liberty.
We are starting to see it now, but these neo-con war-pigs are getting more and more desperate. Like a cornered rabid animal this is when they might be the most dangerous. The will not go quietly, but we must make sure that as they go, they shall do no more harm home and abroad.
Stan "Bitter Hussein" Rosenthal @ 32:
Hee hee. And for another fake-out...........
FUX News sometimes trashes Democrats by trotting out a pseudoscience peddler it calls a "body language expert" to note all the scary mannerisms of Obama, Clinton, or whoever the victim of the day is. With the O'Really? video, Olbermann spoofs the tactic.
Dear Friend,
Over the next several days, Senator Jim Webb will appear on a number of TV and radio programs discussing the critical issues facing our nation.
Sunday, May 18: Meet the Press (NBC)
Monday, May 19: CBS Early Morning
Monday, May 19: Fresh Air (NPR)
Monday, May 19: Late Show with David Letterman (CBS)
Tuesday, May 20: Countdown with Keith Olbermann (MSNBC)
Tuesday, May 20: Lou Dobbs (CNN)
Check your local listings for the airtime and station broadcasting each show. We hope you can tune in.
I think it's great that McCain and Bush are working together to bash Obama. It only reinforces McCain's closeness with Bush, which only makes McCain look worse in the eyes of the public. I can't wait for this election. And with the Dems finally growing a pair (did you see they struck down the media cross-ownership FCC ruling?) and Republicans losing seats left and right, my heart rate is already calmer.
That's it! Thanks, CNL! Republicans need a logo every bit as vaginal looking as the Edsel grille!
Karen @ 22:
I just don't get this Republican-Jesus thing. Jesus had more liberal tendencies then conservative ones.
The Republicans are loosing out because life or reality just doesn't fit the way the Republicans or conservatives want everyone to live. Something about reality having a liberal bias. It may fit in their little eutopic gatherings at church but not in the real world.
Case in point is this war and bombing countries into democracies. They are also so hung up on stem cell research they fail to address the real day to day problems the average American faces with health care. They are so hung up on providing industry tax benefits they leave us high and dry at the pump.
When a national emergency comes up they are reactive instead of proactive.
They spend, spend, spend like money grows on trees. After they leave the country bankrupt they complain about the democrats taxing them to pull the country out of the hole.
Their tough moral conservative stance on issues leaves them inflexible. If a slight breeze comes by they can't bend with it or be flexible. Instead they snap. How the mighty have fallen.
Anyone remember this?
June 27 (2000) -- Gov. George W. Bush of Texas said today that if he was president, he would bring down gasoline prices through sheer force of personality, by creating enough political good will with oil-producing nations that they would increase their supply of crude.
"I would work with our friends in OPEC to convince them to open up the spigot, to increase the supply," Mr. Bush, the presumptive Republican candidate for president, told reporters here today. "Use the capital that my administration will earn, with the Kuwaitis or the Saudis, and convince them to open up the spigot."
http://www.nytimes.com/library/politics/camp/062800wh-bush.html
I guess he thinks invading oil-producing nations creates "political good will". Looks like the Saudis didn't want to play ball, did they, Georgie?
Edsel was actually a division of Ford, along with Lincoln and Mercury. at the end of the 1950's Edsel and Mercury had 4 versions of cars, while Ford and Lincoln shared 3.
All of the names of Edsel's before its demise would be used again later on other models of cars or trucks:
Citation
Corsair
Pacer
Ranger
Typically White and Bitter Agent Hussein Provocateur @ 43:
this is only beginning, so don't get cocky.
the msm has yet to be unleashed. we will have to keep disarming them and exposing their lies and we need to keep the current officeholders' feet to the fire. we cannot let up. we must move forward and carry the momentum into november. just remember how dukakis was treated and Gore and Kerry.
I would sa the score for the week.
Repugnantcants 0 Dems, I can't count that high on my fingers and toes.
Sorry, republican morons. It's gonna take more than a slogan to shake your sorry-ass reputation.
Typically White and Bitter Agent Hussein Provocateur @ 31:
say it! they think killing Obam is humorous.
Paul's Bunions @ 23:
OOOH! The Corvair, now that was a true POS. The motor mounts would rust out and the engine would fall out as you drove down the street.
Another Chevy POS was the Chevette and the aluminum block that would melt when the engine got too hot.
Then there is AMC Gremlin, if you wanted to change the plugs you would have to buy a special socket to remove the last plug.
BTW The very idea that a Repug would consider representation of taxpayers as a commercial commodity, and that a representative government should be run as a business, or a cash cow for your fellow Repugs, and sending our young to Iraq, pretty much explains why those taxpayersare deserting the Repug party.
Why is it so difficult for a missile pilot like Tom Cole to figure out?
Wait, I sense another contract on America in the wings!!!
Radically Moderate @ 57:
Missile pilot?
He looks like my love muscle.
Ron @ 59:
If there were ever an AMC Phallus, he would be driving it.
Once again Karen, I was going (even knowing that it was parody as I was watching it): "This is a believable theory" everytime she made a point. :-)
Alice Hussein @ 58:
CoIntelPro against Repug DoucheBaggery @ 30:
Not again!?
They don't have a product that will sell. Hudson had the same problem back in the 1950s.
Stan "Bitter Hussein" Rosenthal @ 61:
Well, sure. Because they use what you already know/believe about O'Really?, and simply reinforce it. It's classic pseudoscience, and FUX actually does this very bit about Democratic candidates.
:)
I'm still waiting for a Dem to point out that the Attacks of 9-11 were the signature act of Foreign Policy Failure of the Bush Adminstration, only compounded by their reaction to those attacks.
No discussion of who did it. No need for that.
No discussion of whether Bush let it happen by negligence, or was complicit.
Simply that they ignored the warnings.
That much is indisputable public record.
And somehow all these years Bush has wielded 9-11 like a Magic Talisman to get whatever he wants, when in fact the opposite should be true.
He should have been impeached for that single act of negligence.
But no one wants to say it, outside of those of us who hold "conspiracy theory" views of what happened.
But it's sitting there waiting for someone to rip a hole in the Republicans' sorry claim to being the Party of National Defense.
MountainMan23 @ 47:
I listened to Jim Webb on NPR today and when asked if he had asperations for the VP job, he said that he would be more helpful to Senator Obama if he remained in the Senate.
He may have left the door open however by NOT saying no.........???
Ron @ 63:
At least kevorkian would help you die with dignity.
a repug wants you to die as excruciating a death as possible.
between a repug and kevorkian, I'll take Dr. K.
Lakers up by 5 with 19 seconds left.
There is the Time Magazine of 5/27/87, cover story – (“Whatever Happened To Ethics”), which lists more than 100 members of the Reagan administration who were being investigated for “questionable activities”. We know that many of them did serve prison terms, and more probably would have if not for the cowardly Xmas Eve pardon of many of them by Bush I as he left office.
There is the LA Times article on the Nixon criminals of 6/16/92, (“Where Are They Now”), listing at least fourteen of the culprits and the length of the prison terms they served. Nixon, of course, was pardoned by another cowardly act of Gerald Ford, enabling Nixon to suck up some more tax money in his retirement, instead of going to prison.
Now we have the Bush II whose crimes are so widespread most newspapers can’t (or won’t’) even cover them any more. (A few: Attorney General, Siegelman, No Bid Contracts, Electronic Evesdropping, Lying to Congress, War Crimes, etc., etc.)
When will the American People realize that GOP administrations cannot be trusted. They live with their hands in the cash register. The talk about “Tax and Spend Democrats” yet 85% of our existing federal budget was created under Reagan and Bush I and Bush II. The beneficiaries of that largesse has gone to huge business and wealthy individuals who support the party.
So in November, the poor folks who get their news from Limbaugh and Fox will go to the polls, give themselves another kick in the ass, and vote for John McCain.
Radically Moderate @ 66:
I think Webb is right.
MountainMan23 @ 65:
My opinion only. They wanted a Pearl Harbor incident. Then it was easy to blame it on faulty intelligence. If you have read anything about what Richard Clark has said about it, you can connect the dots.
Republican didn't used to be this way. They always had their extreme ideologs, just like the left has, but the rank-and-file thought of them as the extremists and didn't pay them any mind. In 1994 they dubbed themselves the "party of ideas" and ridiculed the left for its lack of them, but they came to think the electorate loved them for their ideology and soon it didn't matter what kind of unqualified lunatic they put up for election -- a candidate only had to spew enough talking points to square every policy question with a "true conservative" as echoed by right wing talk radio. It worked so well we ended up with a President who doesn't know anything except that his ideas are the only correct ones, no matter what the facts or anyone says. They won the skimishes of their war of ideological over reality for a good long while but now that the accumulated damage can no longer be ignored, people want real change. Did you notice how fast the phony "gas tax holiday" got rejected by the public as a sham? That reflects a level of thinking the american voter hasn't show in a very long time. Not long ago the "gas prices are high because of taxes" meme would have obscured the real issues... now people are ready to think about real solutions. And they once again want thoughtful and competent leaders with the ability to hold complex and conflicting ideas in their head at the same time and who realize that binary thinking makes for great sound bites but lousy policy... otherwise referred to as Democrats.
BTW: What President George "D Dubya I" Bush engaged in at the Kennesset(sp?) was what is known (by any real Jew, by blood or faith) as classic "Holocaust Denial." It (in the lower form that Bush used) is the elevation of *supposed* threats to the level of *REAL* threat that the Nazis engaged in.
BTW II: I believe that President George "D Dubya I" Bush is a Nazi.
So mud, what's the series @ now?
two7five7one @ 69:
Dumbest idiots in the universe.
Stan "Bitter Hussein" Rosenthal @ 73:
howzit Stan.
Lakers are in the final. Celtics and Cav's have game 7 to play still. It could end up a Lakers /Celtics final.
Bummer (after the Rockets, the Jazz were my 2nd. choice.) But that possibility of the Celtics being there is attractive to me. I'm a big Sam Cassel fan. I recall him winning a Rockets championship ...
Q; Anyone know how G.W.Bush says Nazi?
A; Grandpa!
lafin gas @ 77:
Or mom, dad, uncle, cousin and brothers.
> Q; Anyone know how G.W.Bush says Nazi?
> A; Grandpa!
Before he can say that correct answer, though, you have to hit him over the head with the toilet seat. ;-)
I'm really tired. Think I'll go to bed. Take that, Space Coyote!!
Stan "Bitter Hussein" Rosenthal @ 79:
Whack-A-Stooge
Duh! Guess all those CEOs they've been working for don't add up and the average voters they've duped have caught on. They've let Bush & Co. ruin the country. Why would anyone vote for them unless you're a war profiteer. I've been shocked at their childishness and antagonism during hearings on C-Span when the Democrats are trying to provide a little oversight. The days when I'd consider voting for a Repub are long gone.
Orangutan. @ 20:
interesting, sounds like a film that the people who scream tinfoil and cover their ears and go la la la will hate.
Will be interesting how the gateway websites cover this movie or if they ignore it completely.
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With most people in our society appearance is the driving factor for respect and who they will follow. It's a great pleasure to see someone like Michael Moore so brilliantly put the facts out there for us. The reason repugnantcants put people like Reagan and even Arnold out there is because they live in a fantasy land. They don't have a clue of what real leadership is.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24671025
This is worth a read.
It's good to see that C&L is back to normal tonight - I was a little worried about you guys this afternoon. The stellar coverage by C&L of the week's events (O'Reilly's rant and Olbermann's special comment, in particular) must make the repubs crazy. John Amato's virtual online magazine ... OK, It's a blog! is too kewl.
This Bill O'Reilly remix is hilarious. This should be posted for all to watch...
http://www.liveleak.com/e/672_1210794727
The Edsel ad reminds me of playing and beating Maniac Mansion. Favorite quote from game: "AAAH! Radioactive Steam!"
Bill O'Rielly must be freaking out. The entire country is laughing at him.
http://www.roncobbdesigns.com/L_A_Free_Press.203.0.html
Fool your base once, shame on you.
Fool your base twice, shame on them.
Fool your base a third time ... you're pressin' your luck.
GNA!
Isaac @ 55:
Well. I'm sorry for posting politico, but this is too funny: Six ways the GOP can save itself
Six ways to mask the taste of poo poo.
Note: 6. Fan the fear. Repigs are addicted to fear peddling.
What happens in Vegas clinics stays in people's livers...
xoites, old Billy must be having one hell of a bad week, indeed.
Bill O'Reilly = Loser...........To which I add, HaHaHaHaHaHa.
I am starting to believe in reincarnation the people around seem to be projecting the third reich what did rove say about the republician party would be the party in power how long was the reich suppose to last?
Then there is the military aspect what was the german gerenal that hitler fired and then recalled to comtinue command when the high command said fighting to the last man they were demoted how much of this is wrong? I wonder if chimpy read the books to the end to see how they ended or did he just read the inside cover
I want to apologize. I had not realized until 2002 the utter evil that our nation was facing (and still is facing) in the culture of corruption and deceit Republican Party.
I felt like I had been sleepwalking and suddenly woke up to find our nation being led into a war, based on the lies of a Republican administration, intent upon pumping up war fever, totally disregarding the reality and horror of war.
And I agree with Keith Olbermann. The entire purpose of the Iraq War that Bush reignited in March 2003 is just going to war for the sake of going to war...for the sole purpose of profit for the few, by the few and of the few.
U.S. taxpayers have definitely not profited from Bush's Iraq War. Over 4,000 U.S. soldiers who've died, along with tens of thousands wounded or maimed over in Iraq, as well as the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens killed or injured, have not profited from Bush's Iraq War. Our nation's children and grand-children, saddled with so much future debt generated by Bush's Iraq War, have not profited.
Apparently, the only ones who are profiting from and will continue to profit from Bush's Iraq War are 1) all the Republican crony "friends" of the Bush administration given no-bid contracts and governmental handouts to the tune of tens of billions of dollars, 2) the Iranians, due to the power vacuum Bush created next door in Iraq, 3) the al Qaeda, once again due to the power vacuum that Bush caused to occur next door in Iraq, and 4) the western oil companies which agreed with Bush's plan to invade Iraq in an attempt to seize Iraq's vast oil reserves for themselves.
So what is the Republican "brand" today? Greed. Stupidity. Incompetence. Outright thievery. Malfeasance. Lying every time their lips move. Treason.
So, I want to apologize. I served in the U.S. Air Force back during Nam. I grew up learning about the Nazi atrocities, the Nazi aggressions, the Nazi propagandizing, the Nazi torture chambers...but I never believed until 2002 that anyone in our democratic society, of whatever political affiliation, would stoop so low as to employ Nazi tactics in an attempt to perpetuate a permanent totalitarian lock on our society, usurping our Constitution and our inherent freedoms. But then, along came Bush, Cheney and a new "brand" of Republican, ones having no scruples, no integrity, no honesty, no conscience...and based on how Bush's war in Iraq has been handled, no common sense, but a whole lot of chutzpah.
In my view, there are only two types of Republicans in Congress today. Those Republicans actively promoting a Republican coup of our democratic society, and those Republicans sitting idly by, just as certain Germans sat idly by while the Nazis and Adolph Hitler rose to power, consuming everything and everyone in their evil path to dreamed-of global domination, which luckily, although after the deaths of millions and so much horror being unleashed, was thwarted.
So, please tell me why I should vote for any culture of corruption and deceit Republican anytime soon? I believe they've used up all their "mulligans," with each errant shot hitting Uncle Sam squarely between the eyes. I am voting only for Democrats for the remainder of my life, in hopes that Democrats may be able to undo some of the damage done to our great nation by these run-amok Republicans, who obviously care more for power, profit and party than they do for our country...just like the Nazis under Adolph Hitler only cared for power, profit and party.
chimpy's yadda, blah bs speech in Israel some highlights:
what a dufus!
Hey, before I say GNA, it's certainly a pleasure being amongst friends ...
GNA!!!!
Me too. Good night and sweet dreams to all.
Yes, people will not buy a product that does not work correctly.
Your GOP product is all false advertisement.
Look at your new off the shelf model, John McCain.
Expert in foreign policy! Ha! Who says that besides the John McCain sub division and the parent company called the GOP?
The whole product line is a lie and it is a continuation of your current corrupt business plan. People do not like lies or corruption or false advertisement.
In other words your products suck and do not work as advertised.
I have three words of advice to republicans.
Quit F@#king lying!
It'll be a cold day in hell before I can trust a republican again.
I think it would be shorter and easier to make a list of what is right with the party. See my list below:
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If you want more of the same vote McCain
McCain, Bush to appear together in Phoenix for fundraiser
President George W. Bush will join John McCain for a fundraiser in the Arizona senator's hometown later this month, McCain's campaign confirms.
McCain = Bush!
Karen @ 46:
Hilarious!
Stan "Bitter Hussein" Rosenthal @ 76:
sam seems to hang around winners.
so does horry the thug.
The Oracle @ 98:
stop acting like the Iranians are some kind of enemy.
Radically Moderate @ 81:
or Whack-A-Moron
U.S. Planning Big New Prison in Afghanistan
By ERIC SCHMITT and TIM GOLDEN
Officials are scaling back plans to shift prisoners into Afghan custody in a stark acknowledgment that the U.S. is likely to hold prisoners overseas for years.
Glimpses of Survivors, Miraculous and Few, in Earthquake's Ruins
By ANDREW JACOBS
Chinese officials said rescuers were still finding survivors of an earthquake that has killed at least 22,000 people.
Same-Sex Marriage and Racial Justice Find Common Ground
By ADAM LIPTAK
California Supreme Court Chief Justice Ronald M. George's argument in favor of same-sex marriage drew an analogy to interracial marriage bans of the past.
Chertie gets sued for improper use of the border fence.
WHITE HOUSE MEMO
A Fast-Fading Sway: The Nation's Leader, but Not His Party's
By STEVEN LEE MYERS
With eight months left in office, President Bush's ability to shape the country's legislative and political agenda has diminished more quickly than his aides and allies expected.
U.S. Plans Steps to Ease Congestion at Airports
By MATTHEW L. WALD
The Bush administration proposed Friday to auction landing slots at two major airports, Kennedy and Newark, and to impose a limit on airline traffic at Newark.
F.B.I. Gets Mixed Review in Interrogation Report
By ERIC LICHTBLAU
The F.B.I.'s agents were praised for not being complicit in abuses at Guantánamo Bay, but the agency was found to be slow to respond to complaints about the tactics.
"..Is there something wrong with your product?"
I coin that line "The Understatement Of The Century"
My nomination for a car worthy of the Republican brand? The Yugo. A total piece of shit.
The Republican brand is sadistic:
Cartoonist Garry Trudeau '70 said he thinks a little-known fact about President George W. Bush '68's past -- that his first mention in The New York Times occurred in 1967 when, as former president of the Delta Kappa Epsilon chapter at Yale, Bush defended the fraternity's practice of branding its pledges with a red-hot coat hanger -- deserves more national attention.
On Sunday, Trudeau's cartoon "Doonesbury" featured fictional character Mark Slackmeyer explaining the President's position against current anti-torture legislation by revisiting a series of 1967 Yale Daily News articles that exposed DKE's rush activities, which at the time included brandings and alleged beatings.
Bush talked about 'Some' who want to appease Iran, clearly referring to Obama without actually naming him, but is it not Bush who appeased Iran by eliminating his most feared nemesis whose name was Saddam Hussein? Appeasement is not talking to someone, appeasement is giving something, clearly what Bush did.
It's not the product that people are dissatisfied with. It's the people making, selling, and distributing the product.
People would love lower taxes, smaller government, honesty, integrity, and peace.
It's just that these doucebags ain't capable of doing any of that.
You know who was a chief honcho at Ford Motor Company when they brought out the Edsel? That's right - Robert McNamara, the same guy who would later apply his vast store of CEO commonsense to running the Viet Nam war (with just about the same disasterous results). So next time you're around the watercooler at work, or at some family gathering, and some wingnut tries to sing the praises of having a "CEO President", hit em with the one-two punch of George Duhbya AND Robert McNamara.
I have a real issue with party platforms being labeled as brands or products. To me, it infers a top-down strategy of telling the people what they should want, as opposed to the people telling the party what they want.
Vote Republican = When You Get To Washington, Tell Me What To Do
Vote Democratic = When You Get To Washington, I'LL Tell You What To Do
They work for us, don't they?
CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 116:
I believe they also reused to take part in the Abu Garib torture sessions, but as the FBI is DoJ and prob most FBI people go through law school of some sorts, this is maybe why.
rambler @ 118:
I nominate any car from GM, where the plan was to make them disposal and force you to need another one every three years.
ferrofluid @ 124:
to me it's more like a coverup to pretend that someone in this affair actually had clean hands. The story actually is interesting, but it's also in the NYTimes, the toilet paper of record.
rambler @ 118:
The Yugo was built from (largely) old-model FIAT (a REALLY bad starting point) mechanicals the Italians offed to the Eastern bloc dirt cheap. Zastava (a former Yugoslav gun factory) built the cars to standards that even the Chinese would be ashamed of. The importation of the cars was handled by Malcolm Bricklin, creator of the '70s Ford-powered gullwing abortion that bore his name.
To sum up: Old obsolete mechanical platform, assembled with cheap labor in a country without labor unions or other worker protections, then imported back to the US by a failed US entrepreneur... Yep, sounds like the Republican Brand to me.
David Brooks in my opion actually admired Obama. He would never say it out right but you can see it in his writing. A portion of which is here and a link follows. Interesting.
That didn’t strike me as right, so I spoke with Obama Tuesday to ask him what he meant by all this.
Right off the bat he reaffirmed that Hezbollah is “not a legitimate political party.” Instead, “It’s a destabilizing organization by any common-sense standard. This wouldn’t happen without the support of Iran and Syria.”
I asked him what he meant with all this emphasis on electoral and patronage reform. He said the U.S. should help the Lebanese government deliver better services to the Shiites “to peel support away from Hezbollah” and encourage the local populace to “view them as an oppressive force.” The U.S. should “find a mechanism whereby the disaffected have an effective outlet for their grievances, which assures them they are getting social services.”
The U.S. needs a foreign policy that “looks at the root causes of problems and dangers.” Obama compared Hezbollah to Hamas. Both need to be compelled to understand that “they’re going down a blind alley with violence that weakens their legitimate claims.” He knows these movements aren’t going away anytime soon (“Those missiles aren’t going to dissolve”), but “if they decide to shift, we’re going to recognize that. That’s an evolution that should be recognized.”
Obama being Obama, he understood the broader reason I was asking about Lebanon. Everybody knows that Obama is smart (and he was quite well informed about Lebanon). The question is whether he’s seasoned and tough enough to deal with implacable enemies.
“The debate we’re going to be having with John McCain is how do we understand the blend of military action to diplomatic action that we are going to undertake,” he said. “I constantly reject this notion that any hint of strategies involving diplomacy are somehow soft or indicate surrender or means that you are not going to crack down on terrorism. Those are the terms of debate that have led to blunder after blunder.”
Obama said he found that the military brass thinks the way he does: “The generals are light-years ahead of the civilians. They are trying to get the job done rather than look tough.”
I asked him if negotiating with a theocratic/ideological power like Iran is different from negotiating with a nation that’s primarily pursuing material interests. He acknowledged that “If your opponents are looking for your destruction it’s hard to sit across the table from them,” but, he continued: “There are rarely purely ideological movements out there. We can encourage actors to think in practical and not ideological terms. We can strengthen those elements that are making practical calculations.”
Obama doesn’t broadcast moral disgust when talking about terror groups, but he said that in some ways he’d be tougher than the Bush administration. He said he would do more to arm the Lebanese military and would be tougher on North Korea. “This is not an argument between Democrats and Republicans,” he concluded. “It’s an argument between ideology and foreign policy realism.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/16/opinion/16brooks.html?em&ex=1211169600...
Ignore the title. I think Brooks just could not bring himself to title his piece, "Obama knows what he is talking about!"
rambler@118
My nomination for a car worthy of the Republican brand? The Yugo. A total piece of shit.
Naw! It's gotta be the Pontiac Aztec - quite possibly the lamest, most embarassingly ugly "automobile" on the road. Lame, Ugly - yep, definitely the GOP brand.
CoIntelPro for Democratic Party Victory @ 106:
That woman Keith had on was smokin' hot! Too bad I don't get cable...
When your product is FASCISM, even the American people will eventurally figure out they don't want it.
Exactly, Restore the Constitution.
"Is there something wrong with your product?”... dear lord.
Reminds me of the folks who're asking "Why do they hate us?" after 9/11.
Yes, there is something wrong with the Republican "product". When your policies are designed to screw the huge majority of the country in favor of a small percentage of the most wealthy citizens and you have to get elected by lying and the spreading of hate...yes, that is a very bad "product". The answer for the GOP is not better marketing; they've already been very good at that. Their problem is that the American people have begun to see that the marketing of this defective product has been deceptive. A better solution for the GOP would be less corruption and adopting policies not designed to screw the majority of the country.
As I'm reading the comments here, a song began to surface from my memory...
Thank you, Fugazi.
From Blueprint:
Under Clinton administration there was 2.3 million people working for government. Today thier are over 100,000 corporations in Iraq,the number of US employees has likely doupled. In my small town I live in thier is 78 police for an area no bigger then Mayberry.
The miserable failures that they are do not have a clue. They are out of touch with America so they will will try what they do best, lie, cheat, steal, and lie somemore.
Republican product?? Bhaw ha ha ha !!
Billy Mays, the ubiquitous huckster of everything from "Oxi-clean" to miracle glue, couldn't sell that product for $19.95 if he threw in a "ThighMaster" and a Ronco "pocket fisherman" (call now)
WOW!
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=56077§ionid=351020201
Bush's Golf Claim Angers Veterans
Edsals are pretty cool. Republicans aren't.
other than they support a lame duck pretend prez, other than the scandal de jour, other than the fact that every cause that right wing soap boxers rally against turn out to be their own preference, other than supporting an unjust war that has literally drained our economy, other than supporting nations that are in cahoots with america's big oil companies, other than seeing gas over $4 a gallon which has a direct correlation to the ties to big oil and the saudis, other than proclaiming support our troops and then failing to support them monetarily with services once they return home, OTHER THAN THAT THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THEIR PRODUCT.
There have been a lot of changes over the past seven years, but the ones who deserved them weren't the ones who got them. Maybe this time around, the majority will actually be ABLE to rule. The Democrats kinda suck too but, for most of us, it would be a step in the right direction.
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