Senator Cornyn Reponds To VoteVets Ad By Smearing Vets
By Nicole Belle Tuesday May 20, 2008 6:45pm
Republican Senator John Cornyn has lashed out at war veterans in response to our TV ad in Texas urging him to support the new Webb-Hagel GI Bill.
According to Roll Call (password protected), the Cornyn campaign "dismissed the charges of VoteVets.org as unfounded":
"The anti-war crowd is determined to use our men and women in uniform for their political advantage, even if our national security is jeopardized in the process," Cornyn campaign spokesman Kevin McLaughlin said.
What a bunch of jokers. Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel (who devised the new GI Bill), Rick Noriega (Cornyn's opponent), and VoteVets.org (whose veterans created the ad) have--not surprisingly--all served in a war. Yet *we're* the "anti-war crowd" according to the Cornyn campaign. However, John Cornyn--who was vehemently against serving in a war himself--is, I think, the real "anti-war" guy here, having avoided service during Vietnam.
VoteVets wasn't going to take this sitting down, and contacted Cornyn's office. And sadly, it's just more of the same.
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When is the Left finally going to swiftboat clowns such as Cornyn?
When? It just seems like such an easy target.
He's the Great Cornholio!!!!!
He's the Great Cornholio!!!!!
Having watched Cornyn on the floor of the senate many times, it doesn't surprise me at all that he would be a total ass. He just reeks of ass hole-ness. I often wonder how many face peels the guy has had.
“The anti-war crowd is determined to use our men and women in uniform for their political advantage, even if our national security is jeopardized in the process,”
How is trying to get more money for the troops, using them for anti-war political advantage? And how does that jeopardize our national security.
Why do these guys hate the troops?
"However, John Cornyn–who was vehemently against serving in a war himself–is, I think, the real “anti-war” guy here, having avoided service during Vietnam. "
say it often. call these chicken hawks out. don not allow this to continue because anyone who served, anyone, should be shown all due respect. the only words sen. cornyn should be saying is , thank you for your service.
"What a bunch of jokers."
That is awfully polite. I don't think they deserve that kind of civility.
If you can find me a truly patriotic soldier that is not anti war i will show you a soldier in boot camp. A soldier who has never seen combat or even met a soldier who has.
I don't think I could ever convey the depth of hatred I have for the republican party, for what they've done to our military, our soldiers, our country.
They are military cowards, liars, cons, war-mongers, profiteers, pervs, and immoral unethical SKUNKS.
I will never EVER vote for a republican for as long as I live.
HUH? Since when does asking a Congressman to support a bill for veterans' full educational benefits make one part of an "anti-war crowd"?
Utterly disgusting but not at all surprising from the reich-wing crowd.
Bluestater @ 1:
NO....No.....no....
We are going to 'reach out..' and end the 'divisiveness that keeps us from solving our problems....' I guess it all depends on what you see as a problem, eh?
Endless occupation of Iraq draining our nation's coffers and ability to protect ourselves while giving the other side a club with which to beat us, Xtian Army in a Muslim country.....check
Blatant, in your face impoverishment of the middle and lower class to make the uber-rich richer....check
Gutting of the Constitution....check
Going along with anything the 'conservative' scum want since the same folks pay both 'Republicans' and 'Democrats'....check
Everything is just fine. Just ask Miss Nancy and 'SellOut' Reid....nothing to see here...please keep moving...
If yer kin afford you $8.00/gal gas.
Lollimom @ 8:
If you can get your friends and family to see it this way and to vote for 'More and Better Democrats' we might have a chance.
Shock of shocks, a Cowardly, self serving, Reich Wing, Rethuglican Chickenhawk whining like a bitch when he is called out.
Whodathunkit...
His Opponent gets a contribution from me!!!
anneyhussein @ 9:
That's the part I couldn't figure out too. I don't get it. So if someone did not support the vet's full educational benefits that would make them pro-war?
I think those such as Cornyn, when backed up against the wall, just blame everything on the anti-war crowd. It's so convenient and immediately invokes the anti-American sentiment, even if it doesn't make a bit of sense.
Another sorry Republican sucking the government teat for his salary, while denying vets their rights.
VoteVets,
Remember who you are and what you've experienced. You're built for kicking ass. Cornyn, like the chicken-shit he is, sent his people out to disrespect you. You know what to do. If not, ask a Marine. You kick his ass -- right out of the senate. (He was vulnerable in his last election.)
At this point the issue of the Webb-Hagel is not whether it passes. They can pass it after November. The point now is to expose and eliminate every ungrateful arrogant sonofabitch that is against it -- because they are a disgrace to our country.
VoteVets -- do it for the guys who didn't make it back.
And don't forget to send him a card saying how much you'll miss him.
He wants them to volunteer to fight bush's criminal war but he doesn't want to compensate their education once they have served their purpose. First thing you know we will have a whole bunch of highly educated vets running around and I guess Cornyn feels that would be a bad thing.
Is there something wrong with being anti-war? Because I am! Especially anti-"preemptive, lying us into a war" war.
A.Citizen @ 11:
Good sir or Madam, as far as I'm aware, 527s don't require the DNC to sign on, or do they?
Lollimom @ 8:
I could see myself voting for a real republican.
Not Ron Paul.
There are sensible republican/conservatives out there who just don't follow this Capitalist regime's sensibilities. Most are currently in hiding, waiting for this to end so they do not get outed and lose their positions. With the right leader (Not Ron Paul) they could bring respect back to the Republican party.
Bluestater @ 1:
Don't you people associate Swift Boating with making up nasty things about the opponent of the candidate you support? I throw up in my mouth whenever I hear someone suggest swift boating anybody.
I hope in November the vets remember which political party did this to them and they remember to repay the bastards via their votes.
I have been against this invasion/war since way before it officially began. But I believe if you ask someone to fight and possibly die for a cause, you had better treat them right if they answer your call. In particular this freakin' war resulting in so many awful permanent injuries both physical and mental. Some of these vets need the education if they are going to be able to work around or with their injuries.
AndrewK @ 21:
I agree! We are better than that. We don't need to make up lies about others when the facts are there for our use. We don't want to win the game but lose our self respect.
pissed off patricia @ 17:
What gets me is these assholes act like if the GI Bill is made fiscally functional it's going to drive the country into bankruptcy -- this coming from the party of "fiscal responsibility" -- the same political party who in eight years managed to add $3,000,000,000,000 to what is now our $9,000,000,000,000 national debt.
These bastards are as evil as it gets.
PS: Krugman came up with figures on the $9 trillion national debt, saying that if you added up the deficits built by Reagan, Bush I, and Bush II, their contribution to the $9 tril would be 70% of the debt. The party of fiscal responsibility. But good god we just can't afford to spend a dime on these veterans. Sickening. If Abe Lincoln came back today, he would shit in his stovepipe hat.
Those ignorant bastards should all be ran out of DC with a combat boot shoved up their asses!!! These Veterans that were sent off to do the neocons fighting in a very WRONG war should be compensated for their service to this country. When did those bastards that are shooting their mouths off ever serve? Even McSame went to combat and he votes against our Veterans!! I for the life of me don't understand why there hasn't been a move a foot to throw out all those asses including bringing impeachment against Bush and Cheney and also having them stand in court for war crimes! I get angry every time I think of the Democratic leadership in the House and Senate not having the guts to go after those cowardly bastards, where the hell are the guts in the democratic party!!
Cornyn has taken more contributions from the oil industry than anyone in government, shocker I tell ya!
These soulless vermin will squeeze every penny they can out of sending men and women into combat with a resounding "Fuck You" as their gracious support of the military
Addendum to my post @ 24:
... If Abe Lincoln came back today, he would shit in his stovepipe hat....
...and then he'd re-register as a Democrat.
Another point:
Think of all the money these idiots have flushed down the crapper in the form of writing checks to Halliburton.
Now consider what Webb pointed out in one interview he did: Over the history of the GI Bill, since the end of WWII, the American government a reaped a return of $7 for every $1 we have invested in the GI Bill.
Our veterans are a rock solid investment.
On the other hand, Halliburton is a bunch of assholes.
I imagine the guys at blackwater are making enough money to further their education if they like and we all know where the money comes from that pays their paychecks.
Classy.
Since the first Reagan Bush administration I have attempted to point out to fellow veterans that Republicans have pretty much viewed veteran's benefits not as earned by service, but rather entitlement programs akin to welfare and food stamps. If what I hear, that veterans and active duty service members are overwhelmingly Republican, then they're pretty much getting what they voted for. It's one of those things I just don't understand.
31 Liberal Texas Democrat Says:
Since the first Reagan Bush administration I have attempted to point out to fellow veterans that Republicans have pretty much viewed veteran’s benefits not as earned by service, but rather entitlement programs akin to welfare and food stamps. If what I hear, that veterans and active duty service members are overwhelmingly Republican, then they’re pretty much getting what they voted for. It’s one of those things I just don’t understand.
It's easy to understand why thesoldiers keep voting for repuglicans, those soldiers have yet to become disabled verterans.
I'm ashamed he's a senator from Texas - my home state. In fact I'm ashamed
George Bush is from Texas.
Cornyn needs to go. The guy is a creep, and everything he does, from phone staffers to web contact forms, discourages active participation in the process. He thinks he knows what's best for Texas and doesn't want to hear from all the little people.
"Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel (who devised the new GI Bill), Rick Noriega (Cornyn’s opponent), and VoteVets.org (whose veterans created the ad) have–not surprisingly–all served in a war."
And that is the crux of the problem. Neo-cons support the mission because it brings them money. The troops? In their eyes, the only good Soldier, Sailor, Marine or Airmen is one that is in combat or in a wooden box.
Dead men tell no tales of corruption, war profiteering, and leaderless and missionless combat.
There is nothing they hate more than a war vet with an opinion and the courage to share it.
curioousme, that makes two of us from Texas that feel that way. I wouldn't
piss on either one of them if they were on fire.
There is an incredibly powerful interview with Webb on NPR, just a brilliant guy.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90595861
Cornyn is one of the WORST congressmen there is on the planet. If you look at his record you'll see he has NO intestinal fortitude, no original thought, and no belief system other than what his banker tells him.
Even the people in his own state think this guy is a loser. If he doesn't lips attached to McSame's cheeks (ass) then it's Lindsay Graham's or ESPECIALLY, John Kyl's...
This guy is a LOSER and we need to do everything we can do to make sure that he goes the same way as Delay... Rick Noriega will need some help..
decrepittex@36
"I wouldn’t piss on either one of them if they were on fire."
Me either. After 14years in the Navy, I promised I would never again stand in a really long line.
Lone Rogue @ 20:
Currently in hiding? I can believe that. They're too chicken-shit to stand up to the christo-fascist thugs that hijacked their own party. They don't want to risk their cushy livelihoods and benefits.
Selfishness, thy name is republican.
They're not supposed to "lead"; they're supposed to represent. An elected official who is in hiding is a total disgrace, representing no one.
The republican party of today marches lockstep with a president and VP who have committed high crimes and treason. It's a party that needs to be destroyed.
What goes around comes around you demonic right wing freak!
I'm an Iraq War veteran. I finished my eighth year in the Army in 2004. I oppose the war.... with that said, I have earned a Bachelors degree and an MBA and I owe all of $20,000 in student loans. I didn't go to night school. I was a full time student living on a shoe-string budget, but the VA college fund was ample to give me the investment I needed to pull myself out of the Army lifestyle. I'm still young and I now make $80,000 a year for a top tech firm. I do not accept the argument that the VA college fund does not sufficiently support GI's. There may be other problems, but that is not one of them.
I am a liberal with an open mind... but this is a classic wedge issue that non-thinkers can jump on to blame "them".
Let's quit slandering "them" and begin speaking about what we're really angry about... the War in Iraq and how the best way to support the troops is to get out of there.
My father was one of the first 1500 troops sent home in WWII because of his extraordinary record of time served and combat duty. He never once talked about the war. He hated war, despite the fact all of my other uncles (who also served & some were wounded) would say what an incredible man he was, never once did he talk about his battle experiences. As a child when I asked him about the war, he just shook his head and said he was in many battles in WWII, and that he hoped his own sons would never have to fight in a war themselves. His response really left an impression on me even at that young age.
That is why I become so enraged when these chickenshit draft dodging neoclowns start shooting off their big bazoo's about war and patriotism. Indeed, real solidiers hate war. Chickenshit draftdodging neoclowns love it because of war profiteering, and they could not give a damn about the soldiers other than exploiting them for a sleazy buck!
Cornyn's from Texas, so he doesn't have much to worry about.
Jeremie @ 42
So you're saying that Jim Webb (D) and Chuck Hegal (R) have gotten together with the rest of the Democratic party, and some of the Republican party, to create this bill as a web issue?
That would be Jim Webb (One Navy Cross, one Silver Star, two Bronze Stars, two Purple Hearts) and Chuck Hegal (Vietnamese Cross of Gallantry, Purple Heart, and Army Accomodation Medal) are cooking this "non-issue" up for their political gain.
Sorry, I'm going with the "non-thinkers" on this one.
That last one should have been "wedge issue" not "web issue" although both are apparently correct.
Heads up:
Over at Salon, Mark Benjamin (one of the best veterans beat reporters) has a new article out about McCain's medical records.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/05/22/mccain/
sometimes i just want to weep. i get too tired for much else.
Stupid move by Cornyn (especially since he's running against a vet like Noriega, who will pound him over this), but not unexpected in the least. He is Bush's loyal lapdog in the Senate and since the White House opposes this bill, he's merely playing the loyal drone. Never will Cornyn go against his master.
Here's the letter I received from the Senator a couple of weeks asking him to support the GI Bill. I also asked Senator Hutchinson (R-TX) as well; strangely enough the letters/responses were after the votes occured and very similiar between the two of them.
Thank You For Contacting My Office
SenateWebmail@cornyn.senate.gov
Fri 5/9/2008 3:47 PM
Dear Mr. Skonning:
Thank you for contacting me regarding the Montgomery GI Bill Enhancement Act of 2007 (S. 723). I appreciate having the benefit of your comments on this matter.
As you know, both the Montgomery GI Bill (MGIB) and its predecessor, the Veterans Education Assistance Program (VEAP), provide eligible military veterans with the opportunity to participate in education and training programs. Since Congress passed the first GI bill in 1944, such opportunities have empowered millions of men and women—who have both served and sacrificed for our nation—to better themselves in substantive ways. As service members transition to the civilian workforce, Congress must ensure that they have access to affordable quality education. As a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, I strongly support legislation that will enhance educational opportunities for those who have served our nation, and you may be certain that I will give any bill affecting our veterans careful consideration.
My father served in the military for thirty-one years, so I grew up around men and women dedicated to protecting their country. I firmly believe that the sacrifices of our men and women in uniform cannot be forgotten. I appreciate having the opportunity to represent the interests of Texans in the United States Senate. Thank you for taking the time to contact me.
Sincerely,
JOHN CORNYN
United States Senator
517 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202) 224-2934
Fax: (202) 228-2856
http://www.cornyn.senate.gov
Cornyn is totally worthless. He is worthless to Texans, but then so was Bush. Texas has a real problem in recognizing competance. This is true from the top to the bottom. I can say this, I am from Texas. I used to send emails to both Cornyn and Hutchinson and Kay Bailey would always respond and politely too in a letter. Cornyn never bothered.
Steve @ 49
That a "non-response" response.
And he uses his father's military service to what? Give credence to his position on the Webb-Hagel GI Bill -- which he conveniently makes not one reference to.
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As an older vet, from a previous fucked up disaster, all I can say to the people serving now is stay in contact with one another when you get back, and take care of each other -- over there, and when you come home.
All you can count on is each other.
Calling all Texas progressives: We can get rid of this conservative twit this fall when Cornball runs for senator again. All his opponent has to do is show the film clip of him standing next to Rev. John ("Hitler Did Us A Favor") Hagee at a McBush rally, then cut to Hagee making the speech about Hitler being the hunter who drove the Jews from Europe into Palestine. Now, for $64,000.00, why would Hagee believe such nonsense?
A.: For two reasons. One, he thinks our species is only 6,000 years old and that man walked with the dinosaurs (i.e. he believes his Bubble is the "literal word of the living God"), and (2) He's a Dominionist. These Dangerous Lunatics actually believe that just as the Jihadist bomber gets his 72 raisins when he blows himself up, Christians will be taken up in The Rapture when Russia causes Armageddon in Jerusalem. Yes, and all those quarters were taken out from under my pillow by the Tooth Fairy. Hagee is not only a lunatic, he's dangerous!
Cornball is guilty by association. He's probably a good friend of McBush's other ecclesiastical albatross, Rev. Parsley-Sage-Thyme, who claims that the Founding Fathers established the USA "to destroy Islam." THAT one is playing quite well in the Mid-East. I'm thinking that before this is all over, Obama will not only be talking to Ahmadinejad, but to the Syrians, Palestinians, and everyone, if only for the limited purpose of convincing those peoples that most Americans think John McBush and his preachers are Dangerous Lunatics.
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