Are 'preliminary' talks underway?
By Steve Benen Thursday May 22, 2008 8:00pmCNN is reporting, based on word from Hillary Clinton’s “inner circle” is pushing for some kind of “compromise,” and that “preliminary … formal talks” have begun about a Clinton exit strategy. TPM’s David Kurtz posted this video from CNN this morning:
Clinton, Malveaux reported, is “aware” of the formal discussions that have begun between the two campaigns, though officials in both camps have denied that any such talks are underway. Malveaux added that the talks haven’t exactly been going smoothly, describing them as “difficult.”
I'm afraid the CNN report raises more questions than it answers.
It's not surprising, then, that CNN is backing away from it's original report.
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CNN = CERTAINLY NEVER NEWS!
DAVID
DUKE ???????
as in KKK?
Hillary, just get out now. The Kennedy reference threw me for a loop, although I will give you the benefit of a doubt, It was totally insane. I want this bull-sh** over.
Oh Hillary - you really stepped in it today... I'm sure you meant no malice but basically you just unleashed the hounds on yourself...
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Was it Clinton's "just shut the hell up" moment?
I'm not sure why this is on C+L. There is no there there. They might be talking but then they may not be talking but if they were talking it may be difficult but they may not be even talking. Where's the beef?
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Does this mean the Corporate Media Campaign is coming to a close?
Will Corporate Media be picking their candidates?
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CNN = Faux Noise
There is no information here... CNN has jumped the shark.
Who cares?
I'm tired of this election campaign - and I'm not even a US citizen!
Sorry to tell you, but Hillary just shot herself in the foot. Go back to the Senate and let Obama run his own campaign.
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Barack, please don't put her on the ticket. I once liked her and supported her over you. But she's revealed her true power-mongering self. If you want your presidency to be your own, and you don't want to have to watch your back the whole time, pick someone else. You owe her nothing. Think she'd be thinking of you if the situation was reversed? Hahahaha. Plus you don't need losers like Terry McAuliffe weighing you down.
wich corporation hack will cave in first ? obama? or clinton?
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yes, let's hurry up and throw our support to someone with less than three years of experience as a senator.
He'll know how to unite left with the right to get things accomplished.
Just as he's been able to unite his supporters with Clinton's supporters.
What the right did with Bush in 2000, promoting this new type of "compassionate conservative", the left
is doing with the new robotic "messiah".
Yeah, let's throw the worst economy the country has seen in decades to a newbie like Obama.
God help us.
Maybe her exit strategy is to say something really stupid and then use that as the excuse to drop out. That is, after all, what she did today.
I have a practical comprise suggestion. Let Hillary and her hillbilly hubby join the republican party. They might as well serve their corporate
interests without the pretense of being populists.
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Canuknotusa @ 12:
It's ridiculous I've never witnessed such carnival-bread and circus in my entire life.
If something happened to Barrack it's not going to be the Clinton's that did it. But the msm sure is trying to spin it that way.
Regardless she should have known better then to say something like that knowing Obama supporters at this point hate and despise not only her but anyone who says let her compete.
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And as for the preliminary talks? It's time to shun her and the rest of the DLC. Put them out to pasture. We need to clean house in the Democratic Party. Dems of Hillary's ilk cannot be tolerated anymore.
No comment
Yeah, we haven't done something like that since the last Illinois senator who had 8 years in its senate (and no US Senate experience) since 1860 when the people of this country elected some guy named Lincoln.
FBush @ 18
That's kinda what I DO like about him. He's a newbie.
Not an old-bie. Not someone bought and paid for by entrenched lobbyists and special interest groups. Not someone who has been part of the insular Beltway culture. Not someone who's riding daddy's or hubby's coattails or bank account.
Yes, let's DEFINITELY throw the worst economy this country has seen in... oh, decades is being kind... to a newbie like Obama. Let's hear some enthusiastic ideas even if they ARE naive and overly ambitious and irritate the shit out of the corporate Jabbas who've been holding the country on a short chain leash.
Frankly, it would make for a refreshing change. Maybe the newbie won't make it happen, not overnight, not without a fight. But we SURE as hell haven't been making it with the 'experienced' old-bies. So your argument doesn't offend me.
Not. At. All.
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LA, Your right. Even Obama's campaign is giving her some slack. But Damn, she really stepped in it this time.
11 Derek Says: There is no information here… CNN has jumped the shark.
But has the shark jumped the couch?
Right. Here's the compromise: Obama won, you lost. Get out and stop acting like you have some sort of control over the situation.
LunaStick @ 26
Excellent point. Well said.
nonny mouse @ 27:
Let's bring back the economy brought to us by the last "newbie"—Jimmy Carter.
Since there is an over-zealous site monitor on duty tonight--
We're all on the same side. But the reality is that Clinton knows how to WIN THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!
Obama is a deer in the woods. His grand speeches mean NOTHING to those of us who are fed up with the
Bush economy.
nonny mouse, well said on your part too.
The so called experience card has been way over played. Experience is what has gotten us where we are today. In the toilet! I need no more of the so called experience. It's time to flush away the old and bring in the new.
Hillary just threw her chance at the Vice Presidency away today with her assassination BS. She needs to find a rock and nestle comfortably beneath it.
FBush @ 33
Let’s bring back the economy brought to us by the last “newbie”—Jimmy Carter
Um, the last newbie was Bill Clinton if we are going to try to evaluate whose experiences makes one ready for being president. Bill as governor of Arkansas did not give him more experience than if he had been governor of Georgia like Carter.
Certainly Not a News channel @ 3:
Actually, my name is really David Duke. It was allegedly a naive mistake by my parents. Yeah well.
There is an argument for Hillary, at least one, but there are regional arguments as well. I honestly have no opinion.
But I think it's pretty normal for trial balloons to be flying at this point.
To all those who continue to thrash the clintons rather than directing that anger at McCain—
Remember that nearly as many voters went for Hillary.
You're killing your own chances with the hate and vitriol.
Don't understand it and never will. Obama supporters are as oppressive as the Christian Right.
LunaStick @ 36:
GREAT EXAMPLE!!
Hillary couldn't POSSIBLY do as good of a job as her husband, right???
That's funny!!!
It was ok to elect her husband who gave us a record jobs growth and more home ownership than ever before but let's THRASH THE WIFE!
Word.
She just threw away her chance at Majority Leader too.
After suggesting that Obama could be assinated, it doesn't matter what Hillary wants, she ain't getting it. Read some of the other blogs: myDd, dailyKos, Huffpo, all of them are barfing on their keyboards.
Hillary has finally made herself unfit. Her zombie-like appology to the Kennedy's instead of Obama has proven that she lacks any connection to reality. She is a (failed) politician, not a leader.
If Obama picks her as his running-mate, I won't be buying the "dream ticket", I'll be buying a plane ticket to a country with healthcare, and a track record of staying out of nation building.
Jeez FBush, comparing Obama supporters as Oppressive as the Christian Right is kind of insulting. But hey, at least some Democrats have some balls!
FBush @ 39:
I hate to say but thats beginning to dawn on me too. I can only hope his supporters all aren't like the ones you see posting on the Internet.
The assassination Freudian slip pretty much finished her and any chance for a VP nod (not that that was very damn likely). Just throw in the towel already. There's no graceful way out now.
Hillary is like the boxer who tries one too many fights. She ruined her chances and she didn't help her legacy or her husband's legacy. It is over and someone should tell her.
Don't tell me. Clinton will threaten Obama that she will keep swiftboating him unless and until he asks her to be his VP. That's her style of negotiating, so it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
FBush @ 39
Don't have a mirror to look into? You should find one because you are doing exactly what you are accusing others of. There are PLENTY of Clinton supporters doing it as well. If you can't see the thrashing and trashing has been a two way street, well then you aren't paying attention. Try going over to Taylor Marsh's blog for an example and remember that half the democratic voters also have voted for Obama.
I'd be more than happy to direct my vitriolic wit towards McCain. Unfortunately we still have to deal with Clinton and her shameless behavior of recent weeks before we can mount the campaign against McCain.
She is preparing a run as the head of the Amerika for Clinton Party, with Joe Lieberman as VP.
she need an "graceful exit". LOL the moderator should mail her these posts to give her an idea.
Get used to it obamazoids. This is going to the convention and don't be TO upset if the precious is called on to support and campaign for the nominee come General Election time. Here's a hint, unless Clinton offers him a VP shot he won't be campaigning for himself. I wonder id the Ms. Obama will for the second time in her adult life be proud of her country then?
FBush @ 40
What's so hard to understand? A "newbie" like Bill Clinton did a pretty good job as president. Your the one saying we're all in need of God's help if we elect another "newbie".
One more thing, Hillary is NOT Bill!!
LunaStick @ 48:
As a HuffPo reader from the its beginning, I have learned a valuable lesson on how Dems turn on their own.
Clinton never had a chance.
Talks? Obama will undoubtedly swat her away with barely 2% more of the dem vote.
Arrogance rules the day.
Okay okay the greatest man in the history of the United States of America bar none, Barack Obama, is hustling to take over from the worst President in the history of the United States of America, George W. Bush.
He is JFK, MLK, Ronald Reagan and all of Mount Rushmore in one fell swoop, and he hasn't done any thing yet.
#51
You sir/madam, are freaking hillarious!
secularhumanizinevoluter @ 51:
Beyond that nearly incomprehensible post, I just want to be sure I got this right:
Did you say that Hillary will offering Obama the VP slot? What planet are you living on? You can at least wait until she leverages the nomination (destroying any kind of party unity that might have happened) before talking about how Hillary will be handing out this and that.
hillarys like popeye! shes im it to the finnish cause she eats her spinach/toot toot!
FBush @ 53
I will agree that Democrats are more prone to turn on their own. Republicans tow their party line no matter what but we, Clinton and Obama supporters alike, have brains and think for ourselves. If we don't like one of our own, we don't hold back. It's a downside of being free thinkers but it's far better than being a republican lock-stepper.
Olbermann is bashing Hillary right now. HARD!
What does Hillary Clinton have Mike Huckabee write her shtick these days?
CHELSEA 2016!
LunaStick @ 58:
He's an entertainer
LunaStick @ 58:
I'm not so sure about that. McCain has been averaging about 70% of the primary vote since he "locked up" the nomination.
Speaking of it has Keith bashed Obama yet for anything?
LunaStick @ 58:
Yes, the comment was not good.
But take a look at the blow-outs Obama has suffered in the rust belt states.
Go ahead and ignore those numbers but Obama, as indicative of his naivete, has not demonstrated an
ability to win the purplish states. Scream all the vitriol you want at Clinton but that is a serious danger sign with respect to the electoral college.
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What is the air-ratio velocity of a cocanut laden swallow?
After her dumbass comment (for the 5th or 6th time this year) about Bobby Kennedy being killed before the nomination is really over, I hope she gets out and stays FAR, FAR AWAY from the public eye for the remainder of my life.
What a moron. Let it go lady. You had all - AND I MEAN ALL - of the frontrunner advantages and experience to wrap up this nomination before it ever began, but you and your staff BLEW IT. Big time.
Now get outta the damn way.
Additionally, I heard Hillary's comment. She was waxing historical about how late the elecion of 1968 was going.
But the election of 1968 also started later than this year.
And that's the historical part, now how late it's running, but how early it started.
And no matter who wins the National Elections they can say it's historical, Barack Obama for not being white, Hillary for not being male, and even John McCain for his age.
FBush @ 64:
But hey they say, none of that matters He's WON!!!!
I think Hillary Clinton is a very strong and capable opponent. She could easily be president, however, I have been an Obama supporter from day 1. I think it's been wonderful to have both a woman and a "dark skinned" or "minority" candidate in this Democratic selection process. The old days may be disappearing; the days of "Christian"-white-men-only. While I want Obama to win, I think Hillary has added a new facet to American politics. Women are just as capable as men!!!! And people will support it.
L.A. Confidential @ 61:
Does anyone here know much about HDTV's? I can't lose the apricot color on Keith's face no matter what I do.
And shit, I think he's actually spitting on the video monitor in front of him.
FBush @ 64,
Which purple states are you referring to?
OH, he loses where Clinton wins
FL, the same as Ohio
HOWEVER!
The last numbers in Michigan showed Obama winning and Clinton losing. Same in Wisconsin, Colorado and Iowa. In Virginia and NC, he is in play. Depending on which polls you look at he is either in the lead or barely behind. He won both those states too. If you think of the old electoral maps of 2000 or 2004, then nothing changes, Clinton will probably win just as Obama will probably win. It just that the maps will change.
People have to remember the Clintons and the Kennedys are friends. Long before they were vacationing with the booshes (Jeb called Bill and older brother), the Clintons were vacationing with the Kennedy's having their picture taken with them on their yacht etc.
Of course the republicans jumped all over it, calling the Clintons elitish and hanging around celebrites, although they were silent when ray gun did the same.
L.A. Confidential @ 68:
Yep.
Our fellow dems are so drained by the hate they've aimed at Hillary.
Obama is slower to react to attacks from repigs than Kerry would have been if he were tripped out on thorazine.
dennis @ 70:
Zzz.
So, here's my thoughts on this matter. First of all, Webb as VP.. no one else comes close. He's a war hero, (taking at least some of that away from McCain) and judging by the amazing passage of the 21st Century GI Bill.. he knows how to push legislation through. He also knows how to fight, and certainly embarrassed the hell out McCain with the same bill. Totally Awesome.
Now, as far as Hillary is concerned. I've been thinking about it really long and hard..and I think she should get the job as the switchboard operator during the graveyard shift. I mean, after all, when it's 3 a.m., who do you want answering the phone?
nycbassist @ 75:
Should could "vet" the summer interns.
LunaStick @ 71:
LunaStick @ 71:
Let me tell you--being from Michigan, we're incredibly p.o'd at the dem party. Our votes are not counting.
Clinton would beat Obama. No doubt.
Electoral Vote States Won
2008 Democrat Primaries
Updated May 21, 2008, 9pm
Clinton 308
Obama 224
FBush @ 18:
And you really want Hillary? Brains and talent don't count for crap in this country anymore. I will not follow blindly someone who insults my intelligence.
L.A. Confidential @ 68:
And neither of you seem to understand that this is a PRIMARY not a GENERAL ELECTION.
Funny to see how the intellectual dishonesty practiced by hillary is fully embraced by some of her most fervent followers.
LOL
Attila the Appeaser @ 76:
That is Hillary could vet the summer interns. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
yeah ? well tell that to the clinton supporters obamer will do without, clintons going to the convention , and it will be decided there!
secularhumanizinevoluter @ 51:
Senator Clinton's career is over. She's not going to be Senator for too much longer, let alone President. Her crack about Bobby Kennedy's assassination has finished her big-time. It's going to be over by MONDAY. Boy, has she screwed the pooch on this one.
L.A. Confidential @ 78:
Popular Votes
http://tinyurl.com/3h7ha2
Tyler Durden @ 80:
Yeah, start counting Obama's electoral college votes Einstein.
FBush @ 77:
She was the *only* one if the ballots.
What is this now, soviet elections with a single candidate in the ballot?
Tyler Durden @ 80:
I don't follow anybody I'm just a fact checker and observer.
OMG! Keith Olbermann just laid Hillary out for her lame Kennedy assassination reference. For Keith it was the straw that broke the camel's back. I think Keith has just done to Hillary that Walter Cronkite did to Jimmy Carter's Iran Hostage problem. Olbermann made a list and checked it twice. I thought he was going to blow a gasket. Me thinks that the VP just got taken off the table.
Please, someone put Hillary's campaign out of its misery.
L.A. Confidential @ 78:
If this were the general election, LA, those numbers would mean jack shit.
But, since this is the primary, they don't. The only numbers that mean anything are these:
Delegates: Pledged Super Total Needed
Obama 1,659.5 309.5 1,969 56
Clinton 1,500.5 278.5 1,779 246
Remaining 86 208 294
sundog @ 88:
Is this on Comedy Central?
slippy hussein toad @ 83:
Just when you think she can't screw even more, she does it again. In fact she is screwing just to cover her previous screw ups.
But, I have to agree with you. Her last RFK shenanigans was just too much to digest, enough is enough.
FBush @ 77
In a primary, she just might beat Obama. BUT that is a PRIMARY! Very different from a general election.
Here's the general election polls for Michigan:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/michigan.html
L.A. Confidential @ 87:
Sure, and I am Willie Wonka.
sundog @ 88:
VP was never really on the table, but now she's safely ended all possibility of her being taken seriously.
Three days ago I was certain that the Clinton campaign would be laughed off the national stage, like Don Quixote. "Isn't that crazy lady who can't count funny!"
Now, she's going to be booed off the stage. "Ugly, vicious, spiteful, mean, hateful, nasty, rotten!" GET OUT. There is no grace or redemption left in your campaign, Hillary, and nothing you can say will fix what you've done. Disgusting.
As an embarrased Hillary voter I strongly urge Obama to do anything he can to disassociate himself with Clinton. No Obama/Clinton ticket and no Clinton/XXXX Ticket in 08' (possibly ever the way I feel now)
slippy hussein toad @ 89:
God are you ignorant. Those Delegates can flip flop so fast it will make your head spin if they see something they don't like in the data that ultimately affects them personally.
Relax, it ain't over till it's over.
L.A. Confidential Says: FBush @ 39:
Obama supporters are as oppressive as the Christian Right.
I hate to say but thats beginning to dawn on me too. I can only hope his supporters all aren’t like the ones you see posting on the Internet.
So very true. It's rabid, deranged, and sickening.
LA Confidential 96
I kinda doubt those delegates will be switching after today. But dream away if it makes you feel better.
L.A. Confidential @ 96:
Uh, it's OVER. Those delegates are listening to Hillary compare this campaign to the 1968 one where RFK got assassinated out of the running, and going *BARF*. Trust me, I am very relaxed and now know for certain that come Tuesday morning, Hillary will be dropping out of the race, or she will be the center of a mass of angry questions asking her why the BLISTERED FUCK she hasn't dropped out yet. This was NEVER anything more than a very sad vanity campaign after Super Tuesday, and her desperation has worn right through any veneer of civility she was projecting.
abarts @ 97
Hey Pot? What's that you just called the Kettle?
77 FBush Says: LunaStick @ 71:
Let me tell you–being from Michigan, we’re incredibly p.o’d at the dem party. Our votes are not counting.
Clinton would beat Obama. No doubt.
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The moral of the story is, there are rules to follow. Next time consider that. That's how life is. "A nation of laws", and all that.
Besides, I'm not American and Obama has won, so... No need for revolving bush-Clinton presidencies. We've (the larger world) had enough of that: just observe America in 2008. Pretty fucked, eh?
sundog @ 88:
I think he was actually fighting back tears.
I know I couldn't hold them back.
L.A. Confidential @ 84:
Hillary isn't ahead in the popular vote, unless you count Michigan (where NOBODY but her was on the ticket) and Florida, where the voters were told the election didn't count. And, also, you don't count the caucus states.
You aren't doing that, of course, because you ate the fucking blue pill.
FBush @ 77:
You idiot Clinton voted for your votes to not count right along with everyone else. You should be mad at you legislators not Obama. CLINTON VOTED TO EXCLUDE MICHIGAN AND FLORIDA she agreed to it along with the rest of the candidates JESUS CHRIST. She's only using you to prolong the race fucking THINK
LunaStick @ 98:
Your the one who's dreaming not me. Just wake up and settle down.
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slippy hussein toad @103
Exactly, she only has a lead when you count them the way SHE wants them counted. Not by the way the rules state.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_c...
LunaStick @ 107:
Rules are for losers . . . according to the people who are currently losing.
FBush
Let me tell you--being from Michigan, we're incredibly p.o'd at the dem party. Our votes are not counting.
Clinton would beat Obama. No doubt.
Maybe you should be pissed with your own state party leadership who broke the rules with full knowledge of the consequences. Oh, and maybe you should be pissed with Howard Ickes, and all other Clinton advisors who also work over at the DNC who all voted to strip Michigan of the delegates.
slippy hussein toad @ 103:
It still doesn't matter Hillary is ahead in popular vote and the count grows and she may win it no matter how many of her states the DNC throws out.
This is going to have influence on Delegates who don't want to get kicked out of office by voters.
LunaStick Says: abarts @ 97
Hey Pot? What’s that you just called the Kettle?
Quote This Comment May 23rd, 2008 at 6:18 PM - PDT
Find ANY comment where I have ever said vile things about either candidate. Go ahead and I'll wait.
Go back to worshipping Olbermann, too. He, like Arianna, lost all credibility long ago.
L.A. Confidential @ 105:
That's it, that's the best you can do?
I see how it is not only Hillary and her campaign that are coming unhinged....
PS. I thought you were for nobody, just an "observer" LOL
LA @ 105
And what pray tell, am I dreaming about?
You are blowing the theory that we Democrats are the reality based community.
Settle down now yourself and keep on imagining that Clinton will be the nominee. It will make you feel better for a time at least.
Until November anyway when her name doesn't appear on the ballot. Bring a pen!
Keith's Special Comment on Hillary's assassination remark part 1.
it's like the old saying goes, "it ain't over 'til a house lands on you or someone dumps a bucket of water over your head."
Edwin Hussein the Appeaser @ 101:
Yes, let's talk about being f*&*^'ed come Nov. '08.
Yikes, with this type of Dem, I know we're all doomed.
Electoral college....look it up in the dictionary under the word F*&^'ed.
Tyler Durden @ 112:
Tyler, go to room and do your homework.
And to all those who are saying that Hillary should STAY IN THE RACE because she still has a chance... Yea.. I guess that's why her camp claims to be in talks about taking the VP slot.. because they are sooo sure that she still has a chance... and not because she is trying to get leverage in forcing Obama to pick her for VP.
I think this thread shows evidence of the GOP's plan to infiltrate blogs with haters.
Brad @ 114:
Keiths gone off the deep end.
L.A. Confidential @ 110:
Yes, if we ignore the fact that there have been more *pledged* delegates who have switched from Hillary to Obama, sure... that may work.
A clear proof of lunacy is to do something repeatedly and expect a different outcome, the nomination was lost long ago. There is not enough primaries left to make up the difference, deal with it.
L.A. Confidential @ 120:
abarts @ 111
Like I'm going to go searching through the archives for your comments. I've run into you before and you were just as insulting to me as I've been to you or anyone else. That's the point I was making. You are as much a part of the problem as anyone on either side.
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it you who vowed to vote for McCain over Obama? I'll wait for your answer before saying anything more.
Yeah, we need to get this over with - let's get Hillary thrown under that bus so we can get to work screwing this election up. Stewart's interview with Dean was dead on - "how can we lose this election?"
L.A. Confidential @ 122:
Your shilling bores me, can you do any better?
L.A. Confidential @ 110:
It still doesn't matter Hillary is ahead in popular vote and the count grows and she may win it no matter how many of her states the DNC throws out.
This is such a preposterous Clinton manufactured lie. Clinton is ONLY ahead in the popular vote if you count florida and michigan. and as you well know, Obama wasn't even on the ticket in Michigan. Plus, Obama did not campaign in florida, while HIllary had several quite large "fundraisers" there. but of course you knew that anyway. And that is primarily my problem with clinton supporters... I see just how brazenly manipulative they are with their "facts."
Tyler Durden @ 121:
I'll deal with the primaries.
You'll deal with the electoral college.
See ya' back in Nov. '08 when you discover what it is.
Craven Morehead @ 109:
One of the theories on that is that Michigan was stripped in order to hamstring John Edwards' campaign because he was doing really well with the bitter . . . oh hell. Anyway, yes Mr. Ickes (whose name is perfect for a slimy political operative) was indeed into it up to his neck when it was politically expedient to strip Michigan of its delegation. Hillary is also on record saying that Michigan (and by extension, one assumes, Florida) doesn't count. Listen to her say it. This was before Super Tuesday.
This primary has been an absurd game of Calvinball, with Hillary changing goalposts constantly, John McCain ignoring the law he helped author on campaign finance. Someone without the built-in cool of Obama would have lost it a long time ago (I know I did and I get nuts even thinking about the shenanigans of both Hillary and McCain). Fortunately, he's got the task out front, and all I have to do is get his back and keep donating, calling, and talking.
Democracy is great when you're winning. Voters are smart and well-informed -- when you're winning. They're an ignorant mob when you're losing, I've learned. And Democracy is an unfair process with wayyyyy too many restrictions -- when you're losing.
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To all Clinton supporters(abarts,L.A. Confidential, FBush)...it's not your fault. No one is blaming you. I know you have a lot invested in her campaign.No one likes to be on the losing side, but its not your fault. We aren't blaming you. She was a worthy opponent but she's been mathematically eliminated. Obama's not going to get assassinated, he's not going do something so incredibly stupid that we would have to give the nomination to Clinton, it's not your fault. Put down your shield and sword and give us a hug...it's okay, it's not your fault
LunaStick @ 113:
I don't care. If she's not in she's not in. If Obama's the man fine. The fact remains is there could be an upset.
FBush @ 127:
When talking about Oranges, it makes little sense to bring your opinion about the taste of the African Fuji Apples.
Well if there were talks underway, I'm sure they are no longer in process after she said that the possibility of Obama being assassinated is a reason for her to stay in the race.
Time to go Hillary.
Craven Morehead @ 118:
The best explanation I've heard is that she has to stay in the race in order to continue to raise money. Given her account deficit, that makes sense to me--just so long as it is not my checkbook.
How that squares with the assassination comment, I don't know. Maybe she is trying to deflect the heat from her friend Mike Huckabee.
Tyler Durden @ 125:
We'll quit following me around like a little puppy then. Go after someone on your level.
Good Lord @ 130:
Typical Obamazoid.
Thinks the primary victory means that he moves into the White House.
Good luck with that!
L.A. Confidential @ 110:
No, actually she is NOT AHEAD IN THE POPULAR VOTE. Are you high? Are you incapable of reading? I can only assume that you have actually become catastrophically stupid if you keep hewing to this failed, discredited line of argument. It is DEMONSTRABLY FALSE.
LunaStick Says: abarts @ 111
Like I’m going to go searching through the archives for your comments. I’ve run into you before and you were just as insulting to me as I’ve been to you or anyone else. That’s the point I was making. You are as much a part of the problem as anyone on either side.
Now correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it you who vowed to vote for McCain over Obama? I’ll wait for your answer before saying anything more.
You have me confused with someone else, then. I have never stated anywhere I would vote for Sen McCain.
Edwards was my first choice, then Hillary.
L.A. Confidential @ 131:
... and pigs could fly too. Yet I am not willing to bet on porcine airline futures.
Just because you can, doesn't necessarily meant that you should. And saying stupid shit like bringing RFK's assassination to the fray is not helping.
LA Confidential @ 131
You are right there. There could be an upset. Earth could also be hit by a giant asteroid before the election making this all moot. The odds are about the same. :)
Barbara @ 133:
Well Bobby Kennedy said, "Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly."
So why should she quit? Can you explain this logic to me?
I mean there's people out there saying Barrack should quit, and drop out on the con side. How come your not going after that instead of being duped by the clinton hating msm?
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L.A. Confidential @ 134:
I am not going after anyone, just pointing out your folly. Persecutory complexes are yet another tell tale of the unhinging. Which I guess came right after the total denial of reality...
at this point I honestly think FBush is a GOP operative.
slippy hussein toad @ 136:
Where the hell are you getting your information? Yahoo?
Damn your freaking nuts!
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