FOX News rips McCain's Kenner Speech: Is Carl Cameron a Lefty Blogger now?
By John Amato Tuesday Jun 03, 2008 3:55pm
FOX News reacted quite differently to McCain's speech last night in stark contrast to what Harold Ford thought. While he said it was McCain's most powerful speech, Carl Cameron, Hume, Rove, Wallace and William the bloody Kristol thought it was awful. Will right wingers and the Bush administration attack Carl for sounding just like a left wing blog for pointing out McCain's deficiencies as a public speaker? Remember what Rove and Co. said about McClellan? He reads off the teleprompter, uses a weird smile when he looks at the audience and stumbles mightily.
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Cameron: ...he's just not as glitzy. Sen. McCain is working off a teleprompter, he's stumbles with it. Occasionally you'll see what looks to be an awkward smile as he tries to sort of connect to the audience, but it sometimes feels a little bit off. He recognizes it, the campaign recognizes it, the audience recognizes it.
Wallace: ...and I have to say sometimes when you're reading the speech along, the speech reads better than it sounds, sometimes it sounds better than it reads. I think we would agree this is a speech that was better on the printed page than it was coming from John McCain's mouth.
Rove: Yea, content better than delivery tonight.
Kristol: I've got to say however watching that speech, I don't think it was a successful speech by Sen. McCain and I think he came off as just snipping at Obama...
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The GOP excuse parade is warming up.
Calling McCain's speech "awful" is very polite.
These asshats don't want to face reality.
It's not the messenger. It is the message.
The Republican brand is DEAD. Fin. Fini. Hasta La Vista. Arriverderci. Sayonara. Dead. Morte'.
Well, this is a strategy they will employ -- they will say Obama is the speech giver, but if you look deeper, McCain has the goods. I don't believe that, but that will be a constant refrain. The Rove playbook is to turn a candidate's strengths against them. Ask John Kerry.
even they can't put lip stick on that pig
Biggus Diggus @ 4:
Totally agree....
TPM did a mashup on this that's hilarious.
TPMtv: McCain Leaves Fox Speechless
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/198681.php
My favorite part of this video is what they do with Harold Ford right at the end. ... hahahahaha
Remember how fast Carl Camerons four part series on who knew 9/11 was going to happen was pulled off the Fox website.
That four part report by Carl was important
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpWc_suPWo
Part 2
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7544.htm
this is a 4 part report. The name that it is listed under changes and is inflammatory. It was not listed like this originally.
McCain Engages in Appeasement … of Hillary and Her Base!
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1896
I can agree that Rove and company will say that Obama is a great speaker but McCain packs the goods and that is all that matters. The problem though, is that McCain's policies are very similar to Bush's failed policies of the past seven and half years. Its very difficult to sell already unpopular policies and even more so when the candidate can not even re-deliver them in an inspirational way.
Yup, laying the groundwork for crappy debate performances.
neocons want brawn........not brains....they got it.
Thank you Faux News for stating the obvious.
McSame is old...bitter...scarred....senile....and clearly past his sell-by date. How anyone can look at that relic and think "future" is beyond me. There is nothing new or exciting about this guy. Just Chimpy wrapped up in a wrinkled, lumpy, pasty package. This country needs to turn the page after eight miserable years....and McSame is not the answer.
I'm not saying that Obama will be perfect, but I'm certainly willing to give him a chance and restore this country to what it used to be.
neocon brawn
sounds like an SS commander to me
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US elections: Jimmy Carter tells Barack Obama not to pick Hillary Clinton as running mate
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/jun/04/uselections2008
eag @ 14:
that's frickin funny(eva braun) maybe ss girlfriend....good one
Faux Noise also agrees that McBush's serial killer smile and poorly written speech bombed.
America deserves an intelligent, articulate and attractive leader: Obama.
Grandpa, go home.
Just remember you heard it here first. Bob Barr gets more votes McFlipflop
Kathleen @ 15:
thanks for sharing that article.......i thought hillary may be a good choice maybe i'm wrong..recognition and credentials
SPUMP!!!!
John McCain is a Bob Dole walking.
'Ol Maverick kind of looks like he's had the meeting with the people that run this place and been told he's going to pick Jeb as VP. . .and then win!
Wow... when FOX turns on you and you're a Republican... that's pretty bad.
GoldwaterX @ 19:
I was just thinking....Obama
GoldwaterX @ 19:
I was just thinking....Obama should invite Barr to go on a ten week town hall meeting spree.
This is the beginning of the dumbing down of McBush. Make him more of a man of the people. Hemming and Hawing and looking like a dolt. Sound famiiar? Makes sense in connection with all the Elitist Talk from the righties the past few days.
"While he (Harold Ford) said it was McCain’s most powerful speech, Carl Cameron, Hume, Rove, Wallace and William the bloody Kristol thought it was awful."
They were both correct. It was awful, of course, but that doesn't mean it wasn't his most powerful. Have you seen McCain's other speeches?
May the GOP crash and burn, and take these simpering shitfucks with them.
Why all this tripe about McCain & FOX losers all over today's C&L.
The biggest breaking news in the last 4 years of the democratic party and Obama's plan for cabinet members & approach for choosing a VP and HARDLY A WORD about moving FORWARD.
This isn't even negative or positive it's about a surprising stuck mindset.
28 Loonie Says:
"May the GOP crash and burn, and take these simpering shitfucks with them."
It is happening already. Don't miss the show!
eastriver @ 26:
You think it's a good idea for McCain to look like a horrible speaker at best, a fool at worst? It would be pretty funny if the Republicans wanted to add "communicates poorly" to their man's resume.
There are worse jobs in the world than being McBushs media guy, I'm trying to think of what they are. This guy is going to get creamed in any same screen situation with Obama.
Take a breath and let people adjust then we can move forward. Obama and Clinton need to work things out.
McCain is dead in the water. The only way he can win the election is if all the American people not in that green screen room last night are killed off between now and November. If he wins under those circumstances it will be a close one.
AlexB @ 31:
Why not? It's worked for the GOP for the past eight years.
AlexB @ 31:
The resume would read "The Great Communicator", in keeping with the Republicans saying the opposite of what it true in every instance.
Hume: Now parading down the FUX News catwalk, Carl Cameron, dressed in a sequin gown that hangs almost as nicely on him as it does on me. Carl, we could talk about the substantive issues of in Gone InSane's speech, but let's be serious -- we're on FUX. So, instead, let's talk about the piss-poor oration our dipshit candidate gave. How hard is he going to make our jobs of making him look good in the coming months?
Cameron: Uh-huh-huh, uh-huh-huh, err, golly, Brit, I was gonna note that even if you didn't ask me, cuz, you know, the delivery really did suck ass. And, you're right, it's going to be a challenge to come up with excuses for it. But lemme give it my best shot: First, McCain hasn't been doing this kind of speech for a long, long time. He has forgotten how. Second, Gone InSane has never been able to work with a teleprompter without stumbling, and who can blame him? When he was born, his parents were struggling to afford the latest technology called light bulbs. And finally, when InSane was tortured in Vietnam, they used electroshocks on him, and that's really the only way his campaign handlers can get his face to contort into a kind of smile now -- they jolt him a bit with electricity, which accounts for his smile appearing a little off, and not as glitzy as that gorgeous hunk Barack Obama. But let's face it. InSane has always been this way. I know it, you know it, and the American people know it, so we have two options: Focus on the issues, which clearly won't work, or lie and help him steal the election, which tends to go in our favor.
Wallace: Yikes. This wasn't very good, was it?
Rove: I guess not. But we can give him an A for effort, right? Right?
Wallace: Heh, is that what we're going on? Is that all we have? Can't we make him any better?
Rove: Sure. Don't let him make any more speeches. Put him on his porch, in his rocking chair, snuggling his favorite blankie, and just let him talk to people. He's ok with that. And he should do ok in debates too. Just no more public speeches. That's Obama's strong suit.
Kristol: Oh, jesus christ guys, let's face it! The speech sucked balls! We're stuck between Barack and a hard place! Ok?!?! Let's just fucking face it! I'm tired of being wrong all the time! I wanna get something right! Gone InSane sucks! His campaign sucks! He looks like a doddering fool, and he even stole Obama's god damned slogan! WHAAAAA!!!!! The horror! The horror!
You mean this John McCain?
You are, of course, correct.
"John McCain: Great communicator, a man of the people, understands the working man, not afraid to negotiate..."
Much like Bush is a President fighting for Democracy.
Kathleen@15US elections: "Jimmy Carter tells Barack Obama not to pick Hillary Clinton as running mate"
The thought of HillBill on the ticket is abhorrent. Jimmy Carter's instinct is spot-on correct.
...Imagine. Gawfuhbid anything happens to Obama, Hillary would obtain her ambition in a roundabout way as we've heard her muse about just in the last 10 days.
What a macabre grotesque thought. I hope Obama doesn't let it enter his head to bring her on as VP. This is all the media's doing.
Besides...since she's been pushing healthcare for two decades now, it would be fitting for her to achieve her vision as Health administrator. Her plan is BETTER than Obama's anyway, and to give her power toward that end makes sense as fitting and natural a position for her.
Don't fall for it. the MEDIA wants Hillary as VP (puke long and hard but do it behind the barn).
Yea, and the content was nothing to write home about either.
i have enormous respect for this site but i wonder why you care why fox thinks? they are, and i know you know this, a propaganda machine. to care what they say is to give them legitimacy that they don't deserve.
36 Karen,
If the law business goes south you obviously have a back up career. :)
This is starting to be reminiscent of the "Simpsons" episode where Homer sabotages Lisa's American Idol contest competitor (which gave us the immortal:
I'm a privileged boy, It's great I gotta tell ya,
Privileged boy, my Dad can buy and sell ya,
It really doesn't matter that you're on the list in front of me,
I'm gonna get your table 'cause I always tip the maitre d',
And then I'll go to Yale, because I am a legacy,
I'm better than you.)
I'd think he was DOA if he hadn't already been here once before in the Republican primaries before being rescued by Rove & Associates. If anybody can breathe life into the animated cadaver it'll be those evil bastids.
McCain's biggest point in the speech was obviously in code when he said Obama wants Government to make all our decisions for us. What he really meant and does not have the guts to say is that he wants more tax cuts for the rich and he wants to eliminate anything government does to help it's citizens, restrain it's corporations or hinder greed.
The Truth Hurts @ 34:
Wouldn't surprise me if they tried to spin it to their advantage:
Obama is an elitist! Just watch how eloquently he gives a speech. His every word and mannerism screams educated, thoughtful and wise. Who needs that?
In John McCain, we have an average, down-home Amurikin, one who isn't just in touch with the people, he is one of the people. He mangles words. He don't need no education. He understands that the first rule of war is not "Know your enemy," but "Thump your chest." And his vision suffers from the kind of myopia common not just to people his age, but to all Amurikins.
John McCain: Stumbler. Bumbler. Amurikin. (And by the way, nothing like George W. Bush.)
You've heard of "dead man walking", well I'm here to tell ya' McCain is Bob Dole walking. Doesn't stand a chance. He was robbed in 2000 by Bush Boy, just as Bob Dole was robbed in 1992 by Bush Dad. Both McCain and Dole ended up running because it was their "turn". The Republicans knew they were gonna lose, so they just put out doomed candidates who could take the fall.
poor fox snooze, there's just so much you can do to dress up a steaming pile of crap such as that speech.
i'm reminded of an old firesign theatre sketch in which a contestant in a game show passes up what prizes are hidden behind several doors for what's in a plain brown papar bag only to find:
Mrs. Presky: "But... but...this is a bag of SHIT!"
Game Show Host: "Yes, But it's really GREAT shit, Mrs. Presky!"
47 sassafra
You have to admit that was better than the "Name That Desease" where the winner winner was told, "You've got the PLAGUE!"
:)
Gramps has an irritating nasal thing going on when he speaks as well as that eerie "my friends" smile.
Maybe John McCain won that one. He kinda looks like it in that speech.
Unforgetting the MSM is bought & sold and they represent the bottom-sludge 30% only. Matthews & the rest are still working hard for their multimillion dollar paychecks to create our reality from the sewers.
He looks like an animated cadaver.
crazytown @ 29:
I'm giving the process some time to sort itself out...I think it's safe to say that Hillary wants the VP spot. The media has acted like idiots all night and today....Don't they read history? They should talk about LBJ and JFK so people have a feel for what's happening...
xoites defends Constitution @ 52:
*Mr Ed theme song*
A corpse is a corpse
of course of course...
I am fine with Hillary on or off the ticket. As long as she supports Obama the Republicans will be put in their proper place: no longer controling the country.
xoites@52, an animated cadaver or one of those pallid yellowishly clammy garden slugs that gets unearthed in my backyard soil.
McCain was sniping at Obama, not snipping.
To me he really looks as if they made him up to leave the speech and step onto the set of Night of the Living Dead as an extra.
That is going to be awfully hard to sell. He is aging rapidly before our eyes.
Copy-Editor @ 57:
well there's no need to get snippy.
(didn't Al Gore say that to Bush?)
Snip It!
I mean, zip it. :)
xoites defends Constitution @ 58:
Brains! slurp!
Maybe that's the Republican's problem. Instead of using brains they eat them.
This was just an exercise in the Propaganda Machine trying to retain a glimmer of credibility with their hypnotized audience.
How can you stick lip stick on that kind of pig?
Oh, just have to share matter-of-factly an impression I had yesterday upon viewing a photo that "revealed" an outline on McCain's cheek-bulge that we've all wondered about.
It appears the bulge is caused by tissue transplanted from a thigh or hip which behaves differently than facial skin in thickness & texture. I will see if I can relocate this photo to share so all can see the surgical perimeter around the bulge.
(Disclaimer: this isn't intended to slam McCain's unfortunate battle with cancer, which is a heartache for anyone who finds themselves having to deal with it)
wallace and KKKristol must be lefty bloggers(D) too!
John Amato - watching Fox so we don't have to. Thank you, John.
"Occasionally you’ll see what looks to be an awkward smile as he tries to sort of connect to the audience... ...it sometimes feels a little bit off"
"occasionally"?? "what looks like"?? "sometimes"?? "a little bit"??
Did Cameron and I watch the same speech? It was one of the worst speeches I've ever seen. Normally when McCain speaks I tend to miss the content because its so boring. This time I missed the content because I kept wondering "What the hell is he smiling about??"
Rove: Yea, content better than delivery tonight
(Channelling my inner Michael Scott) That's what she said.
tell me that doesn't look like a WWE interview. Fox news is straight out of Idiocracy.
look for this to morph into "wow, look how far Senator McCain has come, here at the convention"
this was a dive by Johnny Mac
Where's Cameron's lapel flag pin? Or Kristol's? What America haters!
Here we go again. The repubs always pick a flawed candidate and then bring his flaws to the forefront, and dismiss it away. Eight years ago didn't we hear "Bush is not always the best speaker and tangles his English". This is the usual lowering of the bar so that the repub can be graded on a curve. Of course then the very elequent Democrat is held to a standard where any error is a huge gaff. This is not a surprising event, it is as planned as a two car funeral. Now up against Obama the repubs want a pass for McSame on speaking well in order to neutralize the difference.
And another thing. Just a word of advice to whoever is managing the McSame campaign this week. NEVER, NEVER give McSame his old man laxitives before he goes on stage.
Oh the humanity...
After Murdoch's positive comment about Obama last week ... I'm not so sure Fox entertainment news actors "acted" inappropriately. In fact, I suspect that they were "acting" exactly as they were told. Don't forget, Murdoch knew that Blair's election in England was also inevitable after years of his conservative propaganda entertainment helped elect conservative politicians who destroyed their country as well (Margaret Thacher come to mind?). Anyway, as the story goes, in lieu of good press from Murdoch's political propagandizing organization (not to mention terrible advice), Blair (who I thought was a good honest liberal politician when he was first elected PM --- but I've been known to be wrong on a number of occasions ...) agreed to give Murdoch's political gossip industry as much protection as a PM could provide (--- to the point that he started spouting the same insane ideology). I'm under no illusions that Murdoch has not attempted the same with Obama ... but something tells me ... things will not work out as positively as he (Murdoch) hopes when the new FCC commissioners are appointed by our new president.
Kristol Meth: "This was his chance to talk to a pretty substantial number of people and lay out an alternative narrative."
Ummm...what alternative narrative, Bill? McBush politics aren't an alternative to anything. They're the norm, which is exactly why your boy is going down hard.
And gotta love the spin earlier one when Cameron talked about McCain "opposing Bush's tax cuts at the outset."
Is this the talking point Fox has been pushing on its idiot viewers? I can't wait for Obama to nail McBush to the wall with this at the debates.
It seems like they're being more honest, and a bit kinder to Obama.
Could it be they're warming up for the inevitable? Gaining access to a democratic whitehouse?
I think Mc Cain's slogan is "No We Can't, No We Can't"
That is their answer to any idea other than ANWAR.
McCain comes accross as a tired old man on the verge of a major health problem. His solutions for tomorrow's problems are the failures of the past.
karl @ 20:
I do not disagree with Former President Jimmy Carter (what a champ when it comes to the Israeli Palestinian conflict) on much but I completely disagree with him on this.
Jimmy needs to go out to some senior citizen facilities, visit some nursing homes, go on into some bingo halls and talk with these older women voters. They want Hillary and they want her bad. Many of these women are women who worked in factories in the 40's 50's 60's and worked their asses off making a dollar or more less than the men standing right next to them doing the same job. These are the women who often worked outside of the house, took care of the home , kids etc. They( I have talked with hundreds of them) feel Hillary has paid her dues (as they have) she has put her time in, gone after health care for all, taken her beatings, and put it all to the test. It's not just any woman they want they want Hillary.
I have not heard one racial comment as I talk with these women...not one!
Obama needs these women they are a major part of the back bone of this nation.
Jimmy should spend some time asking these women why they want HIllary
I watched this speech, uh, "live", and I couldn't believe how old and frail McCain looked. He was doddering aimlessly around the stage like an Alzheimer's victim. I actually felt bad for the guy. He needs to pack it up and retire, and enjoy his remaining days and vast wealth playing golf in the Arizona sunshine.
McLame seems like a grade school student force to read his bad report in front of a class.
After two or three of these town hall style meetings, will McLame still think they're a good idea?
Once his shortfalls (or longfalls in his case) are displayed side by side with oBAMas outstanding presense, impecable delivery and righteousness on the issues, McLame is toast. toast with butter and a side of jam.
I thought your take on Harold Ford's supposed praise of the McCain speech was interesting. It was quite obvious to me that Ford was making fun - giving false praise to what was obviously a terrible appearance by McCain.
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