Maybe Ford meant "powerful" like stinky "powerful".

When does the Obama colonoscopy start? These two will be fighting to see who gets to stick the tube in. Count on it.

i thought the mccain speech was a SNL clip or something...his cheesy laugh was scary. ugh...we are so going to win in November.

What state is Ford from? Delusion?

Oh, Kentucky. I forgot.

D.G. Bowman @ 8:

What state is Ford from? Delusion?

Oh, Kentucky. I forgot.

Tennessee.

i dont get it.. why?? isnt he the head of the DLC? Why is he saying anything at all good about McCain?

He must have been watching a different speech than I was, 'cause the one I was watching had my husband laughing his ass off and me calling McCranky a liar several times.

I was also surprised Harold said that about McCain's speech. It must have been specific content....of course. McCain always struggles with the telepromter.

Ford must have watched a different McCain speech than the one I saw. In fact, it was so bad that I actually had the impression that just off camera were armed men pointing weapons at the audience to indicate by force when they were suppose to clap and cheer during it. I've heard elementary book reports read by school children that provoked more of an emotional response than McCain speech.

Oh good, Matthews is finally happy. He took down Hillary and now he's going after Obama. Can't wait to hear all you Obama folks who spoke so fondly of Chris to start going after him when he begins savaging your guy.

The creepy smile that McCain gives after each rambling statement or pronouncement is really disturbing.

It's people like Harold Ford that give dumb guys a bad name.

he is cringe-worthy

You know, even my cat hated McCain's speech. At least, that was the impression I got from watching his reactions. During Obama's speech my cat walked towards the television and kept hitting the screen with his paws and watching the movements of the people. He sat there for the entire thing.

Then, when I watched McCain's speech my cat had an entirely different reaction. He yawned, cleaned his butt and then went to sleep.

grimcity @ 10:

D.G. Bowman @ 8:

What state is Ford from? Delusion?

Oh, Kentucky. I forgot.

Tennessee.

Thanks, grimcity!

Yours for truth and accuracy, something Repugs don't give a whit about,

DGB

McCain's speech was truly terrible but it isn't Ford's job, as a spokesman for Obama, to say that. The commentators did a job job of skewing the speech.

I don't like Ford either because he tries TOO HARD to be just right of center at ALL times. He's like a poor man's Joe Scarborough which is why Morning Joe likes him so much. And that ain't saying much.

I remember reading a Newsweek article like six years ago saying he could be the first Black President. Wow, I'm glad they were dead wrong!

I know grammar isn't your strong point, John Amato, but please. "... he could have went to a Blue State..."??? Ok, repeat after me: Today I go, yesterday I went but I could have GONE.

Hey Harold...go join the McCain campaign. You could be the next asswipe in the mold of your hero Joe Lieberman!

Bill Muller @ 36:

I know grammar isn't your strong point, John Amato, but please. "... he could have went to a Blue State..."??? Ok, repeat after me: Today I go, yesterday I went but I could have GONE.

Thanks Bill for bringing that up! Now I will gone back to work.

Doesn't need a telepromter for this "this Bud for you". He won't choose Jindal for v.p......probably Romney

Is Harold Ford an Edsel?

karl @ 42:

Doesn't need a telepromter for this "this Bud for you".

http://z.about.com/d/alcoholism/1/0/2/v/1/marijuana11.jpg

Harold Fraud, same as he ever was.

casper46 @ 1:

I propose a new law: Once you lose an election, you are not allowed to be on TV until whoever beat you is out of office.

Well that certainly would've put a crimp in Gore's Inconvenient Truth.

Is it true Stephen Colbert is makeing a mocumentary named An Inconvenient Truthiness?

so Obama was too poor
AND
then Obama was too rich.

BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Appeasement Bullshit @ 51:

ford is a proven DLC assjacket.

*trying to contain the reverse peristalsis*

At one time, I supported Ford for the leadership of the party. Boy, was I wrong! It appears that party insiders already knew that Ford was a southern dipstick. I will no longer even consider this twit as being material for anything except an errand runner. His ibas against Obama is palpable.

Bangkok Post Editorial:

EDITORIALS
The world is ready for BARACK OBAMA
Published on June 5, 2008

Open diplomacy and a friendly face in the White House will improve America's image

After a long, arduous struggle, Senator Barack Obama has proved to the Democratic Party that he is a better presidential candidate than Hillary Clinton. The competition between Obama and Clinton, which has been covered live on global TV networks has shown American democracy at its best. As part of its public diplomacy, the US government should nurture this positive aspect of America's image and build on it.

They are all full of shit over at MSNBC. Chrissy Matthews, Keith (I wanna be Jon Stewart) Olberman, Joe (closet case) Scarman, Dan (frat boy) Abrams, and the newest child, Karl Gregory Rove.

By far the worst is that Eugene Robinson who has such a hard on for Obama that he salivates at the mention of his name.

From what I'm hearing on tv, it seems some of Hillary's supporters are disgruntled over how she handled last night and the way she seems to be trying to pressure Obama for the veep spot. They don't like what she's doing now.

Had she not had millions to loan her campaign, I wonder if she would have stayed in this long.

I remember when Harold Ford used to call in to the Imus show and how he would verbally kiss Imus' ass.

"Ford has a Bettor Ideal"

"John McCain's not only a candidate, he's also a client!" "Have You Driven With Ford Lately?"

Stray Talk Expressions - Change Depends On Me

Lynn Lightfoot @ 49:

To John Amato,
Several times recently I have seen the word "went" used where "gone" is needed. Maybe on Crooks and Liars, since I see that mistake in this post. It should read "could have gone" and not "could have went."

Pray tell: what perecisely is the pluperfect subjunctive of concern?

Jack Jett @ 60:

They are all full of shit over at MSNBC. Chrissy Matthews, Keith (I wanna be Jon Stewart) Olberman, Joe (closet case) Scarman, Dan (frat boy) Abrams, and the newest child, Karl Gregory Rove.

By far the worst is that Eugene Robinson who has such a hard on for Obama that he salivates at the mention of his name.

I guess that makes you the authority on "hard-ons".

[Totally and utterly off topic. And thoroughly unimportant-Sitemonitor]

Ford plays both sides of the fence........it gets him more t.v. time. It could be a good strategy to get on faux. If he was too liberal they may bring him on and never let him complete a sentence. I think he is often effective but not always. Maybe not the best but he is a needed talking head on right wing leaning programs........maybe I'm wrong on this.

BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Appeasement Bullshit @ 66:

malcontent @ 64:

I believe Harold Ford was using a rhetorical technique called sarcasm. Maybe you've heard of it?

Harold is a little too stupid to spell sarcasm. He a LIEberdouche DLC sycopant.

If your going to call a person stupid, use words you can spell correctly.

If McCain is so damn smart, why is he considering putting a two term congressman with no military service, Bobby Jindal, in the VP slot?

Talk about bad judgement.

-GSD

What was interesting was Mathew's cracking up and laughing , when Ford said McCain " Married into a BEER FORTUNE " . We'll Chrissy , we know what your agenda is and that is to create this mythology , that OBAMA somehow can not " connect to the middle class " and I believe that is code for WHITE AMERICA , since Barack is some kind of Hula dress wearing Indonesian that can't identify with Applebees customers (Brock) .
The hypocrite matthEws won't admit , how does the average American " connect with someone that went to Annapolis Naval Academy , oh well he graduated at the bottom of his class , so maybe there's a connection there AND married into a BEER FORTUNE, how is that a connection to middle America .
This will be the continuous theme of McCain lapdogs , some how even though you worked on the streets of Chicago with the POOR and Law enforcement , to create better living conditions for residents of that community , that's conveniently left out . Not to mention probably 75% of Harvard students are white , so maybe he over heard a little ABBA at one time , introducing him to WHITE AMERICA .

GSD
That's why Jindal won't get the position. It's a dawg and pony show.......see I can hang with the young guys.

Joe, you act as if public speaking will make leader X change his mind. That is ridiculous, they get all the speaches through a translater. Leader X isn't going to hear Obama and say he is dreamy so I shouldn't bomb Israel or kill my own people in Sudan.

Persuation is not done by public speaking but by sitting across from someone and arguing your case and having them argue back with you. I think this is something President Obama would have to get much better at. When he is asked a question he does not already know in advance, he often stumbles.

That is why McCain challenged him to 10 townhalls, he wants Obama getting asked questions he does not know in advance.

I still think Obama will win though, because the American people do not want to know the real Obama. By speaking in platitudes each American can envision him to be what they want, not what he is.

You want socialism, sure he is going to do that.

You want low taxes, sure that too.

No..."could have went" is popping up all over the place. As is "I seen him..." These are too serious to let pass. After 8 years of monkey boy in The White House, unable to speak the language at all, it's time for us all to pay more attention to what we're saying and how we're saying it. If you can't use the language properly, you can't be understood.

[ http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/grammarian.htm -Sitemonitor]

Harold Ford's stock has the same value, and is going in the same direction as the other Ford.

McCain knows socialism........in the government his entire life.Covered under a government paid healthcare program his entire life. I appreciate his time in service......but does this guy really understand what is going on in this country? Healthcare cost increases approximately 10%...why is the health plan congress has...good enough for him but not us.....

BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Appeasement Bullshit @ 65:

Lynn Lightfoot @ 49:

To John Amato,
Several times recently I have seen the word "went" used where "gone" is needed. Maybe on Crooks and Liars, since I see that mistake in this post. It should read "could have gone" and not "could have went."

Pray tell: what precisely is the pluperfect subjunctive of concern?

+fixed+

The Narrator @ 81:

Joe, you act as if public speaking will make leader X change his mind. That is ridiculous, they get all the speaches through a translater. Leader X isn't going to hear Obama and say he is dreamy so I shouldn't bomb Israel or kill my own people in Sudan.

Persuation is not done by public speaking but by sitting across from someone and arguing your case and having them argue back with you. I think this is something President Obama would have to get much better at. When he is asked a question he does not already know in advance, he often stumbles.

That is why McCain challenged him to 10 townhalls, he wants Obama getting asked questions he does not know in advance.

I still think Obama will win though, because the American people do not want to know the real Obama. By speaking in platitudes each American can envision him to be what they want, not what he is.

You want socialism, sure he is going to do that.

You want low taxes, sure that too.

No, being a good speaker is part of being a leader and it is important in my opinion. Just listen to who Obama is often compared to: JFK, Martin Luther King Jr., etc. Those men were all powerful speakers and they used that ability to advance their ideas and in some cases, change minds.

mcAss has been living on the public dime since birth. there's nothing about him that makes him redeemable, least of all his service record. he showed

BTW - Here's the reason Ford is kissing McCain's butt: he wants to be his VP!

Think about it - McCain can show what a "balanced, non-partisan" ticket he has by having a DINO as his VP, and Ford can hawk his DLC crap. (Oh, and don't tell anyone, but the REAL secret weapon for McCain here is: Ford is black! Just like Clarence Thomas!)

Here's my favorite story about grammatical correctness:

Winston Churchill was told by a woman that it was incorrect to end a sentence with a preposition. He replied, "You are quite correct, madam. It is something up with which we should not put!"

Hey come on here,

I think McCain speaking at the Pontchartrain Center in Kenner, La. was a good fit for him. Hell the combined I.Q. of the residents of Kenner is a whopping 33. Who said McCain can't perfectly target his audience?

Is Ford enough to make you car sick?

casper46 @ 71:

ysbaddaden @ 50:

casper46 @ 1:

I propose a new law: Once you lose an election, you are not allowed to be on TV until whoever beat you is out of office.

Well that certainly would've put a crimp in Gore's Inconvenient Truth.

Ahhhhhhhhh, but I said on TV, not in theaters.

What about commercials for the movies or the inevitable talk-show round to plug it?

Dr. Phil could use a few plugs.

I agree with Ford, it was his most powerful ever. Step back for a second and look at what Ford said - that the speech was McCains most powerful speech ever. He didn't say it was good, or better, than any speech anyone else made - he said it was McCains most powerful ever. He pretty much just said that McCains most powerful speech sucks.

MikeinMD @ 101:

Does anyone else remember the 1984 Reagan/Mondale debates? Reagan, after he got in his "age and experience" quip in the first debate, started getting a little muddled and lost. Word in the press was that if he repeated such a sorry performance in the second (of two) debates, people would start to wonder about his mental state - he was 74 after all. Well, in the second debate he sort of muddled along. At the close, each candidate was given a couple minutes to make a closing statement. Mondale wrapped up and Reagan started talking and got off on some story about driving along the coast of California, his eyes growning more unfocused and confused as he went along. The moderator jumped in with a "Thank You, Mr. President" and it was mercifully over. I thought "Wow, Reagan is losing his mind!" But the next day the paper was full of "Reagan strong in second debate!". I had to wonder what they had seen that I hadn't.
But to the point - The MSM is even more pro-Republican now than it was then. McCain could probably get away with asking for a change of Depends in the middle of a question, and the editorials the next day would be praising his ability to set priorities.
We can't rely on the Republicans to implode, we have to work to defeat them.

I remember that clearly. Mondale also had a responce to Reagan's "There you go again" he tried to trot out in an attempt to get a cheap laugh out of the audience. Mondale's answer left A very heavily made up Reagan looking pale and disoriented. I thought Mondale won the debate. But the MSM had already made up their mind who was going to win the election, so all the articles raved about Reagan's performance. They already had their scripts written and they weren't about to let something like the actual event itself take them off that script.

I get the feeling that Harold Ford merely read the text of InSane's speech instead of actually watching the doddering fool deliver it.

And someone probably just told him that InSane stood in front of a green background in front of the wholly derivative "A Leader We Can Believe In."

By the way, Harold, I thought green signified either environmentally friendly, youthful and inexperienced, or envious. Considering that InSane essentially stole Obama's slogan, appeared disoriented and ready to drool on himself, and offered nothing in the way of policies besides tempered versions of Obama's proposals, I'd say the green signified envy.

Forward looking, my ass. How can Ford say that in the same breath as he notes that InSane needs to "resurrect" the maverick image he so readily and happily trashed to reach out to right wing whack jobs?

Harold is a long time Clintonite crony. He's in the bag for her. You only listen to him for signals from the Clinton camp.

MikeinMD @ 101:

Does anyone else remember the 1984 Reagan/Mondale debates? Reagan, after he got in his "age and experience" quip in the first debate, started getting a little muddled and lost. Word in the press was that if he repeated such a sorry performance in the second (of two) debates, people would start to wonder about his mental state - he was 74 after all. Well, in the second debate he sort of muddled along. At the close, each candidate was given a couple minutes to make a closing statement. Mondale wrapped up and Reagan started talking and got off on some story about driving along the coast of California, his eyes growning more unfocused and confused as he went along. The moderator jumped in with a "Thank You, Mr. President" and it was mercifully over. I thought "Wow, Reagan is losing his mind!" But the next day the paper was full of "Reagan strong in second debate!". I had to wonder what they had seen that I hadn't.
But to the point - The MSM is even more pro-Republican now than it was then. McCain could probably get away with asking for a change of Depends in the middle of a question, and the editorials the next day would be praising his ability to set priorities.
We can't rely on the Republicans to implode, we have to work to defeat them.

Yeah, I remember. what I remember is that if you were a Democrat and running against Reagan, you were fucked. here in America, the question that need to be answered is "how the fuck did we drop so low in matters of political integrity to vote Reagan in in the first place and how did he manage to get re-elected in the second place" (knowing that we were putting a moron in as the president). Everything beyond the time of Reagan is a nightmare. I'm so stupid that I didn't know that Ford was the chairman of the DLC. I actually listened to him with respect for what he had to say. What a schmuck I am! Fuck Tweety. you can see where he was going with regards to Obama and all I can think is "fuck you Tweety". I get where you're going with this. In the face of a President that was born into rich elitism, and all the arrogance associated with being a rich elite fuck who hasn't a clue, I think that the line of Tweety's questioning is corrupt and specious.

my conclusion: none of the liberal or democratic pundits or possibly even the dem or liberal candidates is either bright enough or gutsy enough to take on the best talkers that the right wing has to offer. These conservatives deal in lies and innuendos and they are seldom if ever called on it. I've only seen one recently who calmly took all the crap that o'reilley had to offer and then he calmly and factually stuck it back in his face. Of course, i'm not speaking of a democrat or liberal, not yet anyway, but rather i speak of Scott McClelland. When he was the frontal liar for Bush, he spoke with eloquence that in essence had one scratching his head, wondering if he indeed was speaking the truth. Now he picks up that same factual eloquence and disposes calmly of one of the right wing's biggest blowhards.
If there are more scott mcclelands on that side, the left needs to be aware. Tony Snow also does a great job of making jibberish sound like cold, hard truth. I wonder how long before his tell-all book will be out. I only wonder did they sell their moral compasses for wealth. Whatever, I still think McClelland can take on the best they have to offer and clean house with them. The only one on the left who comes close is Joe Wilson. I think though before he was screwed by the admin over the outing of his wife, he too was a republican. I could be wrong on that though. please correct me if i am incorrect. sorry for the rambling but these are truly exciting times. It's like a GD'd coming out party.

in that second picture, harold sure looks like he's happy to have licked chrissie's bottom.

The secret to a winning campaign - a simple message. In 1980, it was Carter's malaise. In 1984, it was "Morning in America". I still don't know what Reagan's first term had to do with soaring music, people getting married, and flag raising (none of that was done before 1980?) but it was very moving emotionally. Push the Republicans as the party of war, death and debt. Make the Bush albatross glow with neon paint when you hang it around McCain's neck and don't let it fade. McCain will go with more tax cuts and patriotism, support the troops (i.e., the military option) and if the Democrats go with something too hard to absorb in 10 seconds they will risk condemning us to a neocon dominated Supreme Court for the next 30 years.

huh; i saw that clip and thought ford was being pretty sarcastic. i mean, i did not see mccain's speech, but it well could have been his best speech ever. mccain has never given a really good speech, ever. so the comment could well have been sarcastic. sounded like it to me.

Harold Ford is right; it was a really good speech by McCain, as far as McCain speeches go. Fox News is also right; that speech was total shit. If we put them together, we can say that this speech is a long, dry, well-formed turd, a really good stool, but still feces.

I think it's a fair comparison. (: