When in doubt, go with a red scare
For far-right Republicans, when nothing else is working in the midst of a political campaign, they always seem to go back to the same thing: the good ol’ red scare.
Take Tom DeLay, for example. The former House Majority Leader took time away from his criminal defense — DeLay is currently facing felony counts of money laundering and conspiracy in Texas — to appear on right-wing talk-show host Mike Gallagher’s radio show yesterday. When the subject turned to the presidential campaign, the former exterminator went after Barack Obama: “I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless he proves me wrong, he is a Marxist.” Gallagher agreed, saying, “[T]hat’s what he is.”
GALLAGHER: Yeah, that’s, we hear that every day. Congressman, every day someone will say to me, and I’ve said it, it’s as if this were a guy who’s desperately trying to cover up what seems to be the kind of old school Marxist, radical liberal failed ideology.
DELAY: Absolutely.... No doubt about it.
There are a couple of angles to consider here. First, this is the same DeLay who, just a few months ago, lambasted John McCain for “betraying” the conservative movement. He said he’s prepared to “sit this [election] out” if McCain won the Republican nomination, and told Fox News, “There’s nothing redeeming about John McCain.” I guess he’s come around.
Second, the right gets pretty worked up when the left throws around the word “fascist.” Oddly enough, though, the ease with which they talk about red baiting appears effortless. In fact, conservatives do it all the time.
does it really surprise us with t. delay he caused a lot of the problems were in right now......he doesn't have conscious
The funny thing is that these guys don't know anything about Marx, it's just a nasty name to throw around. They don't know that he was first and foremost an economist, a genius in fact.
Does anyone know what is holding up his trial? He should have been tried and sentenced by now.
Odd, I wouldn't call Obama a Marxist, ironically he's too conservative to be a Communist. He is more akin to a Keynesian, and since Keynesians not only got the USA (and the rest of the world) out of the great depression, and produced the prosperity of the 50's and 60's, why would one feel the need to disagree with him?
I forgot about delay, thought he was in jail or somewhere insignificant. bfd.
Heh, yeah, Obama is a Marxist. And Bush is a civil libertarian, and Osama bin Laden is Jewish. Until they prove me wrong, of course.
Why go this way? I mean, when they've got the Muslim Terrorist meme already spreading itself among today's ignorant. Some of the younger generation might not even remember a time when you were supposed to be scared of Marxists and Communists.
Can anyone explain to me why anyone would seek out Delay for a comment on anything? Though that they do is good for Democrats because it reminds people who supports the opposition. So keep talking Tommy!
Malcontent @ 4:
Hee hee. Because DeLay doesn't believe in justice for all. He believes in all for just us -- us, of course, meaning him and his friends.
Tom Delay? Unless he proves me wrong; he's a colossal asshat.
Oh yeah Tom...Have you stopped beating your wife?
i tell you one thing : pray that the downfall i hard and swift BEFORE the election.
Otherwise they will stick it too obama !! Remember, a phoenix just rises from the ashes.......
so make a 5!!! months consume strike to make your point!!! even in redneck land they will fll the waves... so long ;-)))
Obama is anything but a Marxist. In many ways he is way too centrist for me. I would just like to know when in the hell Tom Delay and Karl Rove will be in JAIL? They are the two most fascist criminals in our country. And they are still being paid by McCain and major corporate media to spew their ever more dangerous hate campaigns. Aren't there real prosecutors out there? Aren't there a whole bunch of lawyers in congress who can subpoena them and indict? Nobody seems to give a crap about the law anymore, especially Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.
Fascists need fear to govern. Without fear, they have no power. Of course, it helps if they have secret prisons, torture chambers, merceneries, and religious zealots....
Mucaise will not investigate !! democracy at work..
I sense that the nervous Reslugs are getting really, really scared and wetting the bed again.
Tom Delay compares Barack Obama to Marx, and himself to Jesus.
Ahh, yes; the fine commentary from a pillar of the community: Tom Delay! Who better to comment for the Republican way of thought than one of their finest - a former bug killer awaiting trial and sentencing for - what was it again? Money laundering? Influence peddling? Bribery? I forget, one of those crimes that the Republicans forgot to change laws for...maybe they can get Cunnigham or Noe or some of their other jailbirds to weigh in...
AngryOne @ 15:
Jesus would trowh him out the temple!!!!!!
All the Republicans have left is name calling. They certainly can't point to their record as examples for why they should be re-elected.
Mike Gallagher & Tom Delay = Losers.
delay was the strong arm behind that no bid drug plan for medicare.......where they kept the vote open beyond protocol......again he is a disgrace. he is a huge hypocrite. you don't him much gop put him on the shelf
Marxist???
How old school is that, and who is left, who would be scared by it?
Better to make some new prints of "Birth Of A Nation" and show Rupugs as the Klan Kavalry, saving the white women from the big swingin' black dicks.That one doesn't require knowledge of esoteric stuff, like histree 'n commies, and readin', and writin'...
Yeah, Tom, because Republicans bailing out incompetent corporations shows how much they embrace the values espoused by Adam Smith.
Some local idiot republican running for a seat here in Maine came knocking at our door once. He introduced himself and I said, "Ah Ha! The party of Tom Delay. You guys are all crooks." He got red in the face and slunk away.
They can run (for office) but they can't hide.
So do you think it's 6 or 7 people in the world that actually give a shit what Delay says?
We are going to have to a lot of work if we are going to get Obama elected and get all these a-holes out of government. House races, senate races. Everything. Let's keep track of it all. peace.
Tommy B Goode.
( Devo,(kinda)
Scy @ 23:
Don't underestimate the power of these guys. Look at Rush Limbaugh's audience and the power of the corporate media. This isn't going to be a cakewalk. We all have to do our part in educating our neighborhoods, writing into the editorial pages, calling in to the radio shows, and spreading the message to take back our country!!
Jo @ 22:
kind of like that monkey species with the red ass
When does DeLay start serving his life sentence?
karl @ 27:
Yes! LOL
me @ 28:
bush will bail him out on his way out the door
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“I have said publicly, and I will again, that unless Delay proves me wrong, he is a Fascist.”
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me @ 28:
When we get a new Attorney General -- John Edwards, maybe?
Very few people even remember the Commies at this point, and for many of the younger voters, a Marxist threat is when a dj says "coming up, and old hit by 80s hitmaker, Richard Marx."
Embittered-Max-Hussein-1 @ 31:
Very much so. A chip off the old Alolph.
A Marxist isn't what Delay really wants to call Obama but he and his fellow red state Republicans can't get by with using the "N" word anymore.
passengers on a one way trip to pluto:delay,lieberman,hannity,cheney,o'reilly,graham,
bush,mcbush,hagee.....there's more.. but no seats left
Embittered-Max-Hussein-1 @ 31:
He's a fascist, a crook and a combat dodging chickenhawk coward http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html. He's the worst of all worlds.
I doubt anybody really takes this turd from Texass seriously. Even his fellow repiglicans are ashamed of him.
Ruthless People @ 37:
how about extreme right neocon hack
Bush, Cheney, Delay, Phil Gramm, Cornyn, (R) etc....... Is Texas the nexus of the universe for assholis gigantus?
"From each according to his ability, to each according to his need (or needs) is a slogan popularized by Karl Marx in his 1875 Critique of the Gotha Program"
That Karl Marx might have been onto something.
Biggus Diggus @ 33:
I remember what you're talkin about Biggus. Even as a child, I was aware of the (perceived) threat. And I do think there was enough of a threat to make us think. Back then, times were kinda crazy. Atomic weapons were new on the planet. And all the powers that be, wanted to rule the world. I dare say, things haven't changed all that much.
delay better be worrying about who obama's attorney general will be.
" it’s as if this were a guy who’s desperately trying to cover up what seems to be the kind of old school Marxist, radical liberal failed ideology."
Is this in comparison with the brilliant conservative policies, that have run up a record $$$9 trillion debt$$$, dislodged a million families from their homes, and sees oil spike up $9 a barrel in two days?
Karen @ 8:
and his friends consider fdr a socialist, and mandela a terrorist.
I amazes me that the GOP hasn't locked DeLay up in a secure location somwhere. Having the most ethically bankrupt, corrupt, thuggish Congressional leader in living memory out speaking for the party is not a good thing. (Well, for Republicans. Democrats love him out front, as he represents the festering soul of the modern GOP.)
I always get a chuckle out of how Americans have been brainwashed with this "red scare" thing. It must be in your drinking water. It's kinda pathetic.
(signed, some Pinko.)
OK, first, right off the bat, I am a Marxist and Barack Obama is not. Marxism is a very specific political ideologue based in the philosophy of dialectic materialism. I highly suggest frequently visiting www.marxist.com for current info on the International Marxist Tendency. Senator Obama warranted a mention recently in US Marxist perspective 2008. Simply put, neither major US party or member therein currently serving in national office have anything to do with Marxism. Barney Franks, who styles himself a "socialist", is no Marxist.
And my favorite point, which requires constant reiteration to combat the lifetime of indoctrination & propaganda every living American has endured: There is no example of Marxist theory, when put into practice, failing. The Revolution, properly exercised has only been reversed by the forces of violent counter-revolution supported by outside Imperialism, most notably the Paris Commune. I will be brief: Stalinism, and Maoism which was influenced by Stalinism, was not Communism, was not Socialism, but was Bureaucratic Authoritarianism and no one reviled it more than the true heir to the leadership of the October Revolution, Leon Trotsky. If you have any desire to find out what Marxism and Communism really are and what we really believe, Start with Four Marxist Classics, published by wellred books.
Who knows? you might be one of us
tr @ 43:
delay will be on the bush christmas immunity list
mudshark @ 42:
Except our leaders are now the fascist bad guys and war criminals!
tr @ 43:
Yes. A lot of them had.
Shan @ 41:
Forget Marxism we are living under GOPism:
"Each according to is ability..." Bush never would have been president.
"Each according to his need.." to that Cheney says go fuck yourself and give me what I need, money for wars and no bid government contracts for Halliburton at taxpayer expense.
... the right gets pretty worked up when the left throws around the word “fascist.”
keith gave them some more fuel tonight!
(i'm listening to the repeat now - can't remember the quote from earlier)
Honestly, the President of France, Sarkozy, is supposed to be conservative and he is more to the left than Obama. For example, Obama would never push for a single payer health care system, but Sarkozy would never dare get rid of it; yet, I would bet anything no French citizen has ever accused Sarkozy of being a Marxist. The ad hominem attacks by Republicans are so ridiculous.
better an honest Marxist than a scumbag, thieving, lying Christo-fascist
"Bush measures ways to help stimulate economy" http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080607/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_economy
Here's one. Step down.
j swift @ 55:
Is there any other kind?
mr. credibility.
BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!
[ OK, that was funny. SM]
He's a another Hagee disciple. I hope and wonder for when they'll start calling him "Lovehole" instead the "The Hammer" in prison.
Two prominent members of the conservative movement - DeLay and Gallagher - accuse Obama of hiding his 'failed ideology'?
These accusations should be taken very seriously by every voter.
Because, when it comes to 'failed ideologies', these are the experts talking.
And they don't even know it.
"When in doubt, go with a red scare"
...red scare, homo scare, immigrant scare, brown people scare, black people scare, Islamic scare....
All the GOP has is fear itself.
Better to keep their bedwetting running scared to the polls to vote against their own best interests time and time again.
StirFry @ 59:
The Pounder shall become the Poundee.
Funny how those 'communist' in 'Red' China are kicking our asses right now economically.
Is McCain a compassionate conservative like Bush?
the media has absolutely no problem scraping the bottom of the barrel. Delay can't spell marxist withjout a dictionary, which if you look at him, you can immediately tell that he doesn't read. KKKristol started the 'marxist meme a week ago. that and the "most liberal" tag are currently at the top of the list. Juan from fox is trying to revive the Wright links and CNN is trying to say that Obama won because his campaign used sexism.
It has hardly begun to get ugly, but now that there is a clear Democratic candidate, they are apparently willing to plumb the depths to find wedge issues and false memes.
Jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s @ 63:
...and how Bush has got us under their thumb economically.
Delay should be sitting in prison by now . As stated by the Walrus all the Repugs have left is name calling and smear tactics , it will be bad but after eight years of these lunatics hopefully some people at least will have learned , be wiser and reject the low life rats and their tactics completely . It is troubling though that Hillary going a little low ball and " kitchen sink " did in fact work with voters , so here we go again , who knows ? Ignorance is the number one threat to our country and to Democracy .
Why is Delay relevant anymore? Who gives a crap what he thinks? Maybe he should go back to Scotland and play a few more rounds of golf with crony Abramoff?
Ruthless People @ 65:
but he looked into pootie's eyes and saw his soul, right?
delay helped destroy this country along with boosh.
the dreams of prescott boosh are coming to fruition.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 68:
Putin looked back and saw an idiot and a sucker.
Ruthless People @ 69:
Brilliant. This would be funny if it weren't true.
LOL, fuckit. This is hilarious
Oh, I thought you meant red (state) scare...
mudshark @ 70:
yes, LOL that's true and funny.
Who is Mike Gallagher and why should any thinking person care about the asinine ravings of another right wing lunatic with an audience that is waning by the day? Every time your blog decides to highlight some awful, hateful and not to mention completely inaccurate thing said by some dingbat on the fringes of right wing radio, you help to legitimize what they are saying and increase their media exposure and thus their audience, even if only temporarily. And Delay. Who the fuck cares what that fat, half-retarded old hillbilly says? He holds no public office, and represents the most vile aspects of the Republican party that even their inexplicably loyal base has started to reject. Reporting on an exchange between these two colossal dickheads kind of seems like a waste of time to me.
And until you prove me wrong Tom, you are a disgusting, corrupt, wife-beating criminal.
there is quite another take on the situation...
quite a collection of assholes.
To all the guys @ 70, thank you ... hahahahaha ! And good evening to all.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 40:
Everything IS bigger in Texass...
We're on to ya guys . . . .
*
ah! it was about LIEberman, calling it the "democrat" party... got him the WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD spot tonight... paraphrasing keith, to joe:
if you can call it the democrat party, then the dems are allowed to call you FASCISTS!
I think the so-called Red States are soon to be toast. Demographics are changing. Add gas and food prices, the average American is facing extinction. So let Delay and the Rebug right-wingers do their thing. How many Americans are worried about gay marriage when it will cost $5 for a gallon of gas? The cost of collage? Healthcare? We are looking at scary economic times my friends. Will McCain save us? Yeah! I think i'll hurl!
The scary thing is they are starting this liberal communist talking point label very early in the game. This is going to be their meme. He is the most liberal senator... Will the sheeple be stupid enough to fall for it again? I know people who plan to vote for McCain. This makes me so angry it's hard to be civil with them frankly.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 72:
i just had dinner with my baby boomer uncle and baby boomer step dad.
both white traditional......
you may not know this but nancy pelosi wants to tax everything you make and own and give all that money to illegals.
just thought you might like a heads up.
you may not know this either, but obama is political suicide for the dems.
----insert black joke here------
ugghhhhh.
it's a good thing they have other redeeming qualities.
there is no changing their minds.
well it did take 8 years for them to realize that bush was not good.
i would take 100 years to convince them obama is good.
.... signed the kansas city and tuscon get togther dinner
P.D. @ 80:
Good points. McLoser admitted himself he doesn't know much about the economy. Dems have to pound him on that so everyone red and blue know he would mean a second depression if elected. The old lies from right wingers won't work anymore with all people right and left suffering from republican policies and a war bleeding the country into third world status.
Unless Tom DeLay proves me wrong, he's a pedophile. I want to see him not fucking children.
Charles @ 85:
Bingo- nailed it.
Charles @ 85:
Until he can prove that he never has or will become one I will always suspect that he is one.
i guess that's how a fascist would perceive obama.
someone at CNN actually has some positives about the Obama candidacy
* Story Highlights
* He says Obama presidency would provide a sense of the promise of America
* But he thinks U.S. image boost won't last unless national policies are overhauled
* He says U.S. could keep good image if it continues helping keep markets open
* Rest of the world surprised that U.S. doesn't talk with certain regimes, he says
I said it in public and I will say it again, unless he proves me wrong, Tom DeLay is a felon.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 82:
that name is a great theme for progressives
:<[)
Why is this man still walking around among the general population?
Cats r Flyfishn @ 90:
Can anyone tell me- is DeLay even allowed to vote?
BennyP @ 93:
He hasn't been convicted yet.
carefulwiththatAXEeugene @ 83:
Paraphrasing, I heard this line come out of Limpballs or Slaggage or Clannity (sorry, I can't remember which; they all basically sound the same...) when I was stuck in Fresno last week. This sort of brainwashing is, unfortunately, the only "cleansing" so much of middle America gets on a daily basis.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 82:
I just came back and looked at this again.
My eyes are waterin I'm laughin so hard.
I gotta go...........too much.
wvguy @ 2:
and the ironic fact that the neocon movement sprung from the 60s marxist movement,
something the Repugs prob dont know about or are too stupid to realize, think it out.
katy @ 79:
Off Topic, I'm sure...and let me preface this by saying I am not a troll or a McCain sympathizer, but Olbermann should name Kos WORST PERSON for his post about McCain's yellow teeth.
Ron @ 94:
Ooops, wishfully thinking.
Meant to say would/will he?
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 97:
And to think this crap meme started with necon in chief Billy 'the bloody' Kristol, who is always wrong. For these desperate thugs it's the blind leading the blind.
Go Obama!
I want to know why Think Progress didn't show Delay's mug shot, instead of the tuxedo-clad Delay.
Think, people.
As disgusting as the slime-green kharma-glow around Tom Delay might be... you can be sure that we will see it in all its wide-screen TECHNICOLOR glory as soon as Tweety gives him another twenty-minute broadcast segment on HARDBALL.
MEMO TO CHRIS MATTHEWS:
DON'T EVEN BY-GOD THINK ABOUT IT.
abarts @ 98:
you just disproved your own case.
let's review:
looks very trollish. but that's just me.
Tommy Hussein @ 101:
which one shows Delay's yellow teeth?
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 104:
Those are brown stained from kissing ass.
CowboyBob in Austin @ 102:
Tweety will use his sunday morning lie-fest.
DeLay, Lieberman, Lott, unless I'm mistaken - and I'm not - all of these great defenders of Freedom and Capitolism have spent the vast majority of their adult lives as recipients of government largesse: free medical care, life-time pensions, regular raises , and cost of living adjustments.
Even DeLay, indicted for a felony, still gets his benefits.
All paid for by the same American people who are expected to believe it would be Unamerican to ask the same benefits for themselves.
rooth hussein @ 107:
Ain't it the truth!
I just think going after someone's appearance, in this case, the color of someone's teeth, is pretty childish. There is so much more to go after on McCain than that.
yours looks pretty 'trollish' too, but that's just me.
Whats the difference between Republican government and gay sex,
gay sex involves lube and a thank you afterwards.
the only question anyone should be asking deeeeeelay is: "how do you plea?"
Well, Tom Delay is a fucking Nazi! How you like them apples, bitch?
I am Tom Delay. I am innocent until proven guilty.
I can say anything I want to say.
I am Tom Delay.
I can't wait till the right wing comes to my defense,
I am Tom Delay
I am Tom Delay. God Damit!
I am TOm DElAy.......
I am a felon.......
Iam a homosexual!
I am Tom Delay!
I am a stupid man.
Who cares what I say!
I want my mommy,,,,
or sean hannity....
I am Tom Delay!
A meeting of the 'Mine's
Tom: Hey man, pass me another hit of toluene.
Joe: Holy smokes Tom. That stuff is deadly!
Tom: Ahhhh, man, you don't know nothing. This stuff comes straight from the Exxon labs!
Joe: I know that the West Bank needs a golf course.
Tom: This stuff'll take care of your pest problems too.
Joe: Maybe with that latest shipment of cluster bombs...sure hit me up Tommy.
Let’s vote them all out of office. The type of experience the senior representatives have is worthless. America needs a new type of politician. Not the guys with backgrounds in law; too many of them are so easily bought. They call if “facing reality”. Americans do not need their idea of reality. America needs fresh new faces with backgrounds in American history, world history, ancient history, and Constitutional law. America needs statesmen, advocates, martial arts experts, (there is something beneficial to mastering one’s will,) community organizers, and public servants, (not wannabe aristocrats.)
The experience the current batch of politicians have is worthless to a free and civilized nation, under the rule of law based on precedent, logic, and yes judicial activism, (someone must strike a balance between the “will of the governed” and the “inherent rights of the individual,” knowing the intent is part of the job.) They have to understand that the intent is to protect “us” from “them”, (the powerless from the powerful, the disadvantaged from the advantaged, the gentle from the sadistic, the kind from the mean, the suckers from the predators, the people from their base instincts, and the naïve’ from the control freaks.)
Do we want a civil society whose founding axiom is “do no harm?” Do we want a society in which the most criminal bastard is given a free hand because he is dominant and can scheme the system so that it just works for him and other bastards like him? Do we want a system where the old, (fearing what they might lose,) resist change, (because the young want the system to work for them, (because they want their children to thrive?)
I think I'm a marxist buddhist - is that okay?
abarts @ 98:
why? someone with mcCREEPY's money, there's no good excuse to have bad teeth...
i understand it could be percieved as shallowness, but really, it's just another example of the man's deterioration and lack of good sense.
and being mentioned on the TV would be even more embarrassing for mcSAME, and a great plug for kos... i'm guessing you wouldn't want that... :-)
i think i may know who you are... do i? that name seems familiar somehow...
...
just found this... good news here...
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/politics/ny-usobam0607,0,6544526.story
scroll down a bit - a link to see Young Barack Obama photos
that last one, 21 of 21 pics - i was there. great day!
!
g'nite.
Pol Pot dies in April 1998. I think he shape shifted into Tom's lifeless bod:
http://tomdelaywhore.blogspot.com/2002_07_01_archive.html
Pol Pot, also known as Saloth Sar, probably killed 2 million of his country people while deregulating Cambodia to Year Zero.
Let’s vote them all out of office. The type of experience the senior representatives have is worthless. America needs a new type of politician. Not the guys with backgrounds in law; too many of them are so easily bought. They call if “facing reality”. Americans do not need their idea of reality. America needs fresh new faces with backgrounds in American history, world history, ancient history, and Constitutional law. America needs statesmen, advocates, martial arts experts, (there is something beneficial to mastering one’s will,) community organizers, and public servants, (not wannabe aristocrats.)
The experience the current batch of politicians have is worthless to a free and civilized nation, under the rule of law based on precedent, logic, and yes judicial activism, (someone must strike a balance between the “will of the governed” and the “inherent rights of the individual,” knowing the intent is part of the job.) They have to understand that the intent is to protect “us” from “them”, (the powerless from the powerful, the disadvantaged from the advantaged, the gentle from the sadistic, the kind from the mean, the suckers from the predators, the people from their base instincts, and the naïve’ from the control freaks.)
Do we want a civil society whose founding axiom is “do no harm?” Do we want a society in which the most criminal bastard is given a free hand because he is dominant and can scheme the system so that it just works for him and other bastards like him? Do we want a system where the old, (fearing what they might lose,) resist change, (because the young want the system to work for them, (because they want their children to thrive?)
Excellent again --- you are incredibly insightful! Thank you!
Tom Delay deserves to go to prison for life, so who cares what he thinks about Obama.
we are close to 20 years since the cold war ended, and i am still amazed that these people think they can strike fear in the hearts of men by tossing out maxist and socialist
in fact, when i hear wingnuts decry a socialist system...it is now less about personal liberty, then about "why should i give a fuck about the other guy"
this is all about the reagan revolution....a 28 year revolution that is about to come to a crashing end
i just hope the dems dont eff it up
Can we start informing these idiots that Marxist Communism and Liberalism are two very different ideologies? If they want to start combining the two, then let us start combining Conservative movement with Fascism. I know, as I'm sure most of us do, that those two are nothing alike as well, but that's because we're willing to actually examine what those ideologies are and comprehend that.
It's obvious to me that we aren't going to be able to start having an honest talk with regular folks who vote Republican unless we start with the exact same type of attack with them as they do with us. Maybe when they're forced to try to explain to us what the difference is, they'll stop and listen to us long enough for us to educate them on the difference between Liberalism and Communism... I said maybe.
apple pie @ 119:
as Rep. Chester Atkins once said "a policy of hatred"
It isn’t age that separates McCain from Obama; it is consciousness. Bill Moyers is a senior citizen who I would have no problem voting for. George Soros, Noam Chomsky, Bill Clinton and many others I could trust at the helm, but not McCain. Imagine this; McCain was the republicans’ last choice. The party only began to support him when all the others failed not because McCain rose above them. McCain is the last or second to the last guy one picks for a team. If one hasn’t become president by the time he is in his seventies, it is because no one believed he was presidential material prior to his seventies, and his own party doesn’t believe it now. But, he is who it has to work with and it is nothing if not an excellent marketer of its product and the front man for that product. It is this that makes McCain past his prime. He has only his credentials as a reliable ninety-five percent tool to recommend him, to people who buy into fantasies. The “village” is quite good at turning lemonade into lemons.
Really, is that the Republicans' best game? For real? Flailing about with rhetoric that was already stale 30 years ago?
Heh. This will be amusing.
Communism... Yawn... Boring...
When tax cuts for millionaires is your only policy (and all other policies begin and end with it), there isn't a whole lot of substance to you as a human being. Personal integrity is just not who you are.
That's why they are capable of doing all the creul and evil things we see on a daily basis. Its also the reason for the laughably simplistic message they have. There really isn't any substance to these people outside of personal greed. The only truly amazing part of all this, is how many people were fooled by these morons over the last 28 years.
Hey, I think I just described a sociopath!
Beck Dons Soviet-Style Hat With Obama ‘08 Logo
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/06/beck-obama-soviet/
To this current fascist crowd their Saint Ronnie Reagan is a socialist.
The Red Scare. Gee, that goes well with the We-don't-really-know-Obama talking point.
Why can't they talk issues!
So, Delay is now channeling Joe McCarthy. How many innocent people were persecuted in the 1950's by this same "Marxist (Commie, Red, whatever)" labeling bullshit?
Is that the best you've got Bug-man? Will someone kindly let loose a can of Raid on this mouthy sewer coackroach. Or, get the Men In Black to zap him.
Absolute proof! He is a Marxist!!!
http://pabloonpolitics.com/obama_is_a_marxist.htm
pablo @ 131:
Thanks for the laugh, Pablo! I even think Mr. Obama himself would find this funny.
Let's see, Groucho, Chico, Harpo, Zeppo and Barack....kept thinking that the Bugman's pea brain must have gotten Barack Marx mixed up with Stalin.
Until he proves me wrong, Tom DeLay licks camel taint and drinks the urine of pox-ridden fox terriers.
Anyway....
It's unfortunate that this asshole's attitude is shared by some. I was talking with a coworker a few months back and he asked me if I was planning to vote Dem or GOP (I'm registered GOP). I told him that I'd "sooner vote Socialist than for any of the rejects from the Bum of the Month Club the Republicans are putting up."
He immediately assumed I was voting for Clinton, "Because she's socialist."
I shook my head and blamed the local school system.
A slightly different take on Obama's "Marxism" over at http://www.tagg-theangrygayguy.com
Never fails. Tell the American Sheeple what they want to hear and become their hero only to screw them once elected. Will the Sheeple ever learn? Apparently not.
Johnny B
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Ace @ 100:
That's another bullshit line to discredit us without arguing anything we believe or are trying to do. I don't know how many Imperialist bastards i've seen described as "former Trotskyist"; If you aren't one now you never were.
And if you're a neo-con now that is prove you never knew the first thing about Trotsky.
And...
DHavok @ 124:
Very True that every discussion should begin with the shared understanding of what terms like "liberalism" "conservatism" "communism" and the like mean. You would be well served to learn the difference between Marx, Engels, Lenin & Trotsky on the one hand and Stalin, Mao & their disciplines on the other. China today is no more "Red" than the USA was during the Gilded Age of the 1890s.
In my many encounters with wingers who toss around terms like "marxist", "socialist", and "islamofascist" I have yet to meet one who can accurately define "Marxism", "Socialism" or "Fascism", they just flail about like Kevin James spouting on appeasement.
You know they have this wonderful new invention called Google. Perhaps if the author had used it he wouldn't have made such an ass of himself trying to debunk the claims Obama is a Marxist. Simple truth is HE IS!
Co-founded in 1992 by Daniel Cantor (a former staffer for Jesse Jackson's 1988 presidential campaign) and Joel Rogers (a sociology and law professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison), the New Party was a Marxist political coalition whose objective was to endorse and elect leftist public officials -- most often Democrats. The New Party's short-term objective was to move the Democratic Party leftward, thereby setting the stage for the eventual rise of new Marxist third party.
Most New Party members hailed from the Democratic Socialists of America and the militant organization ACORN. The party's Chicago chapter also included a large contingent from the Committees of Correspondence, a Marxist coalition of former Maoists, Trotskyists, and Communist Party USA members.
The New Party's modus operandi included the political strategy of "electoral fusion," where it would nominate, for various political offices, candidates from other parties (usually Democrats), thereby enabling each of those candidates to occupy more than one ballot line in the voting booth. By so doing, the New Party often was able to influence candidates' platforms. (Fusion of this type is permitted in seven states -- Connecticut, Delaware, Idaho, Mississippi, New York, South Carolina, and Vermont -- but is common only in New York.)
Though Illinois was not one of the states that permitted electoral fusion, in 1995 Barack Obama nonetheless sought the New Party's endorsement for his 1996 state senate run. He was successful in obtaining that endorsement, and he used a number of New Party volunteers as campaign workers.
In 1996, three of the four candidates endorsed by the New Party won their electoral primaries. The three victors included Barack Obama (in the 13th State Senate District), Danny Davis (in the 7th Congressional District), and Patricia Martin, who won the race for Judge in the 7th Subcircuit Court. All four candidates attended an April 11, 1996 New Party membership meeting to express their gratitude for the party's support.
Try a little bit of research rather than just drinking the Kool Aid.
Those you see following the Obamessiah are not Democrats, though the species may try to
look similar. They are in fact nothing but JACKASSES!
P.U.M.A.
What people like Gallagher and DeLay think and say is of no consequence. They are speaking to a small minority, 10% of the 30% who will vote Republican regardless of who the candidates are. No one else pays either much attention - which must gall DeLay who so recently had rooms full of Congressmen genuflect when he passed by.
POdVet @ 139:
LOL
See, this is how it is done. Obama is linked to a link to a link to someone or a group that someone has asserted is Marxist without having to define or justify the label, therefore Obama is marxist.
My dog met Obama's daughter's babersitter's aunt's dog in the dog park, therefore Obama is responsible for my dog's opinions.
How about you look up an informed definition of Marxist, and see if that definition applies to Obama.
Maybe you should have read the rest of the post rather than only the first 3 lines. You know the nice big section where it shows he was a member of the New Party...I swear you Obamatons lie, distract from the truth, lie again, if all else fails to stop the truth call them a racist.
euthyfro @ 136:
Leo Strauss and Irvine Kristol
euthyfro @ 136:
Its proof not prove btw
POdVet @ 142:
I did read that, but the fact is that Obama sought the endorsement of the New Party, as well as many other groups involved in Chicago politics.
I also read assertions that the New Party is Marxist without any justification of that label. Some members, (even founders) may have been former marxists (more properly leftists), but that is true of some Democratic Party, some unionists, even large numbers of members of the Republican Party. Did the New Party itself have a Marxist platform? Not that I have been able to discover. As a left of center, progressive oriented party it is automatically open to the label of Marxist by those who don't know the definition.
Does POdVet know what a Marxist is? (Hint, it isn't cheating to do some actual research, don't let others dictate your opinions).
Karen @ 6:
Great posting. Insighttful, succinct and scary.
"He said he’s prepared to “sit this [election] out” if McCain won the Republican nomination, and told Fox News, “There’s nothing redeeming about John McCain.” I guess he’s come around."
Maybe he can sit this and the next few elections in jail.
euthyfro @ 48:
Marx was brilliant. Marxism, however, fails because, as is the case with all ideologies (political, religious, economic) preaches inevitability and requires passivity on the part of the adherent. Secular humanism requires reason, commonsense, intuition, imagination, memory and ethics. What is called for in a secular humanistic, citizen-based democracy is disinterested participation for the common good - a.k.a., the common weal, commonwealth.
Tom DeLay and Mike Gallagher: two guys with no idea what "Marxist" really means.
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