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At some point, it’s not entirely clear when, the DC establishment decided that Newt Gingrich is an intellectual. He gained a reputation as a “big thinker.” He’s someone whose ideas are “outside the box.”

All of this is rather silly. The former Speaker can bloviate with the best of them, and he has opinions on everything under the sun, but the notion that Newt Gingrich is some kind of “visionary” — which is how David Broder described him last year — is ridiculous.

And yet, his advice is as sought out now as ever.

Newt Gingrich, who led the GOP takeover of the House in 1994, is now coaching Republicans on how to recapture the Senate.

The former House Speaker and icon of the right is quietly expanding his influence in the upper chamber, where he is selling ideas on refurbishing the GOP’s image. Facing the harshest climate for their party in over a decade, Senate Republicans are hungry for his counsel.

“He’s trying to identify a path to victory in the fall,” said Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), adding, “It would be wise for us to listen.”

“I refer to Newt Gingrich as the Mount Vesuvius of ideas. He’s got a lot of them — and many of them are very, very good,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the vice chairman of the Republican Conference.

It’s not altogether clear exactly what words of wisdom Gingrich is sharing with Senate Republicans. According to Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), a longtime Gingrich ally who heads the Senate GOP conference, “His general advice is: Be in touch, don’t be just repeating things you heard from the ’70s and the ’80s.”

That sounds reasonable enough, I suppose, but why would Senate Republicans consider Newt a reliable source in the first place?

Are Republicans’ memories really this short? In the late ’90s, Gingrich developed a well-deserved reputation for being something of a nut. He shut down the government (twice) and he pursued presidential impeachment over an adulterous affair (while carrying on an affair of his own).

Among the gems we heard from the Mt. Vesuvius of Ideas were the notion that the homeless should get laptops, the benefits of an old-school model of orphanages, and criticizing the notion of women serving in combat roles because “males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

And if we put aside some of his “big ideas,” wasn’t this the guy who led the Republican Party when it lost seats in the ‘98 midterms, and was forced from his leadership post when House Republicans decided they didn’t want to listen to his nonsense anymore?

I don’t doubt that the Senate GOP caucus is feeling nervous right now, maybe even a little desperate. But, really. Newt?

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mudshark hussein's picture

An intellectual? umm, No.
A slick mofo, maybe.
A dumbass, yup, most definitly.

5by5's picture

He's notoriously unreliable and downright harmful for the people of America, of course. Which is probably why Grandpa McSame will nominate him for the VP position....

Liberal AND Proud's picture

I agree...the GOP should listen to Newt.

Newt and McCain should appear together repeatedly. Newt should be on all the news programs, give interviews at every turn. He should appear on Countdown with Keith, so he can reach out to Democrats and progressives.

Yes, we need all Newt all the time.

rend's picture

John Cornyn is a douche.. sorry,, just need to call someone a name

MooseUpNorth's picture

No, I think it makes sense. “I refer to Newt Gingrich as the Mount Vesuvius of ideas." Perfect sense indeed. He's inflammatory, kind of unstable, has his head in the clouds most of the time, and is thought of as somewhat of a god by his followers, and may go off without provocation. And if you were to unleash his 'vision' to the fullest extent, everyone around him suffers.

caliph garrett's picture

The Mount Vesuvius of ideas? Sen. Box Turtle (R-Pompeii) is more correct than he knows.

john's picture

Newt and McCain seem to have a lot in common, they both have this thing about when my wife the mother of my children get sick and really need my help, we leave like the cowards we are, but talk about family value to everyone else.

Sue's picture

Liberal AND Proud @ 3:

I agree...the GOP should listen to Newt.

Newt and McCain should appear together repeatedly. Newt should be on all the news programs, give interviews at every turn. He should appear on Countdown with Keith, so he can reach out to Democrats and progressives.

Yes, we need all Newt all the time.

Absolutely! I'm trying to see what the downside is to the GOP listening to this guy? I just hope he doesn't forget where he came from and remembers to coach the House GOP as well.

Simon White-Thatch Potentloins's picture

They can listen to Newt all they want ... They can stamp their little feet all they want ... It won't help. They are fucked and about to suffer a major backlash at the polls. The only thing that will save them now to for some amazingly convenient terrorist "incident."

Fear is their only reliable tactic. Trouble is, I think the public is fucking sick and tired of being afraid.

Filthy Harry's picture

I assume the entire scope of his effort at helping republicans save their image is merely lying extensively to the electorate in new ways.

mudshark hussein's picture

caliph garrett @ 6:

The Mount Vesuvius of ideas? Sen. Box Turtle (R-Pompeii) is more correct than he knows.

You beat me to it.
Oh yeah , Mt Vesuvius. uh huh, sure.
We all know how that played out.
Killed an entire city or two.

John Small Berries's picture

It's kind of like how actors in Hollywood turn to bizarre cults "new religious movements" when they're not getting roles - they're so desperate they'll turn to anyone who promises "we can help you with that".

“males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

Hey, I call bs on that statement. Just yesterday I went out hunting giraffes. I wasn't going to harm them or anything, I was just trying to find one. Sadly I must report, there were none in my backyard.

bill y's picture

“males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

He's really sticking his neck out on this one.

CafeenMan's picture

Did "The Visionary" tell them to eat their peas and carrots too? I mean, wow! I can totally see that Gingrich is a genius!

Why don't we have anybody like that?

Radically Moderate's picture

There are only 4 ways that the Repugs could capture the Senate in November:
1. The Dems would have to make some catastrophic mistakes.
2. The Repugs would have to lie their asses off about their lack of governance and oversight under Frist.
3. They would have to fake several terrorist attacks in Sept., Oct, to scare the hell out of the Voters.
4. They would have to use every means available to steal the election from the Dems.
Hmmm, seems as though the only wild card would be the Dems making fools of themselves?

CafeenMan's picture

Giraffes have feelings too you KILLERS!

:)

slappy magoo's picture

any body see (or read) The Mist? Newt is crazy Mrs. Carmody. Everyone recognized how dangerous & flighty HER worldview was, too. But when people start getting desperate & they want the horror to JUST STOP, weak stupid people start to think "maybe it's time to listen to the crazy person. MAYBE we should've been listening all along."
And the more pople start to listen, the more people get sucked into the insanity, the more EVERYONE suffers. The GOP is one financia or gay scandal away from believing in human sacrifice.

slippy hussein toad's picture

Republicans are so stupid these days they apparently can't tell the difference between a visionary and a loudmouth know-it-all.

CafeenMan's picture

Radically Moderate @ 16:

Hmmm, seems as though the only wild card would be the Dems making fools of themselves?

When there's a will, there's a way.

slippy hussein toad's picture

5by5 @ 2:

He's notoriously unreliable and downright harmful for the people of America, of course. Which is probably why Grandpa McSame will nominate him for the VP position....

BRING. IT. ON.

Gingrich's negatives are SKY-FUCKING HIGH. He is only slightly less popular than chlamydia, and chlamydia only polls as high as it does because people don't recognize it.

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slippy hussein toad @ 19:

Republicans are so stupid these days they apparently can't tell the difference between a visionary and a loudmouth know-it-all.

They're hoping he pulls off another "Contract with America' type heist.
They're really grabbing for anything now. But , somehow I feel they'll find a way to stay in this race.
Granted, It probably won't be legal.

Rena's picture

On the good side, it might bring Candace back into prominence.

Screwtape abides's picture

GOP stalwarts,
Please listen to Newt. He's a fountain of knowledge. He'll lead you to Victory. He's never been wrong before. Do as he says......... always. WooHoo............

VegasRage's picture

Good luck with that approach, they will seriously need it.

Kathleen's picture

Neutered Newt's strategies helped bring our nation to where it is at this moment. Crumbling.

Losing America
by Scarecrow over at FDL

When I first started commenting here -- in 2005? -- about the time that some of the worst Constitutional abuses were being exposed, I noted that during the Nixon Watergate era, Americans held their collective breath not knowing whether the Constitution would hold. We weren't sure whether Nixon would get away with his crimes, what Congress would do about impeachment, whether the Supreme Court would uphold Congress' and the federal courts' right to demand evidence of crimes from the Executive Branch.

CONGRESSMAN KUCINICH AND A FEW OTHERS HAVE THE NATIONS BEST INTEREST AT HEART. HE AS WELL AS A FEW OTHERS ARE STILL TRYING TO SAVE OUR SPIRTIALLY AND FINANCIALLY NATION. WHEN FOLKS LIKE ZBIGNIEW BRYZENSKI, JIMMY CARTER, ARTHUR SCHLESINGER (BEFORE HE PASSED) AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS ARE SERIOUSLY WORRIED ABOUT OUR NATIONS FALL FROM GRACE. YOU KNOW IT'S ALL DOWN HILL UNLESS WE WITNESS A MIRACLE

Kevin NJ's picture

Just because the guy is a jerk doesn't mean he isn't effective. He does know how to win. The Dems would be smart to keep a sharp eye on what he is up to.

VegasRage's picture

All the kings horses...

is this years story for the GOP

Cleo's picture

There is only one path to victory for the Repubs --- cheat, steal, lie, cheat, steal, manipulate, deceive, steal, lie, etc. --- in a nutshell --- steal the election!!!!!

WRG's picture

Liberal AND Proud @ 3:

I agree...the GOP should listen to Newt.

Newt and McCain should appear together repeatedly. Newt should be on all the news programs, give interviews at every turn. He should appear on Countdown with Keith, so he can reach out to Democrats and progressives.

Yes, we need all Newt all the time.

I couldn't agree more - two old geezers out making ridiculous statements with stupid grins on their faces could only help the Democrats this fall... that is as long as the media doesn't wrap him with the same mantle they have McCain and ignor the truth.

Weaseldog's picture

pissed off patricia @ 13:

“males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

Hey, I call bs on that statement. Just yesterday I went out hunting giraffes. I wasn't going to harm them or anything, I was just trying to find one. Sadly I must report, there were none in my backyard.

I got a Catahoula Giraffe Hound to scare them away. Haven't seen a giraffe in my yard yet.

I did spot some martinis in my yard on Saturday.

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Kevin NJ @ 27:

Just because the guy is a jerk doesn't mean he isn't effective. He does know how to win. The Dems would be smart to keep a sharp eye on what he is up to.

He actually . . . doesn't. His personality is as abrasive as nails on a chalkboard, and his policies are head-crushing stupid. It was proven years later that the "Contract on America" was of little or no consequence when the R's were returned control of the House in 1994, and that Gingrich's actual "leadership" basically took us to shutting down the government, then the incredibly unpopular impeachment of Bill Clinton. The impeachment debacle was so unpopular with the public that the Democrats actually gained seats during the 1998 elections. Proving once and for all, that Newt didn't know jack shit about what America wanted. He wasn't a leader. He was a fucking big-mouthed demagogue.

diamondmc's picture

Just heard on MSM that latest polls show McCain behind Obama by double digits with Women voters. Maybe Newt could help them with that issue. Hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

Weaseldog's picture

Rather than work on their image, they should remake their souls.

They market themselves like used cars. They change the pine scent air freshener and present themselves as a brand new party.

What would Zeus do?'s picture

He gained a reputation as a “big thinker.” He’s someone whose ideas are “outside the box.”

In a blind world, the one-eyed man with a cataract is still king.

“He’s trying to identify a path to victory in the fall,” said Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), adding, “It would be wise for us to listen.”

This sounds more like the blind leading the stupid.

Are Republicans’ memories really this short? In the late ’90s, Gingrich developed a well-deserved reputation for being something of a nut. He shut down the government (twice) and he pursued presidential impeachment over an adulterous affair (while carrying on an affair of his own).

You would have thought that the GOP would have welcomed Bill Clinton into their fold; after all, adultery is a GOP family value.

“I refer to Newt Gingrich as the Mount Vesuvius of ideas. He’s got a lot of them — and many of them are very, very good,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), the vice chairman of the Republican Conference.

What an apt comparison: Newt Gingrich is rather like catastropic natural disaster. I hope the GOP's relationship with the Newt is as rewarding for them as Vesuvius was for the Pompeiians.

Blue Buddha's picture

With the way that the Bush admin. and the GOP has been acting for the past 8 years, this man is a fucking genius compared to the idiocy and incompetence running around now... that's how low they've sunk. As I always said, you know how fucked up the Bush admin and Iraq war was when even Newt was criticizing them.

Blue Buddha's picture

What would Zeus do? @ 35:

He gained a reputation as a “big thinker.” He’s someone whose ideas are “outside the box.”

In a blind world, the one-eyed man with a cataract is still king.

...and the man with two eyes is called a lunatic.

Weaseldog's picture

Blue Buddha @ 37:

What would Zeus do? @ 35:

He gained a reputation as a “big thinker.” He’s someone whose ideas are “outside the box.”

In a blind world, the one-eyed man with a cataract is still king.

...and the man with two eyes is called a lunatic.

That was very Zen...

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pissed off patricia @ 13:

“males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

Hey, I call bs on that statement. Just yesterday I went out hunting giraffes. I wasn't going to harm them or anything, I was just trying to find one. Sadly I must report, there were none in my backyard.

I've spotted a lot of people on this side of the state doing their best giraffe immitations in attempting to keep their heads above the water of the ocean of debt that is inundating them.

Diane's picture

He's the only one of them that has a college degree and teaches at a University.
That makes him a mental giant for Republicans!

Weaseldog @ 31:

pissed off patricia @ 13:

“males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

Hey, I call bs on that statement. Just yesterday I went out hunting giraffes. I wasn't going to harm them or anything, I was just trying to find one. Sadly I must report, there were none in my backyard.

I got a Catahoula Giraffe Hound to scare them away. Haven't seen a giraffe in my yard yet.

I did spot some martinis in my yard on Saturday.

That was me with the two martinis. I guess I was wasting my time in your backyard then if your dog scared all the giraffes outta there.

Sounds to me like the repubs are at the height of desperation.

Let's go to the throne of Newt to ask him to tell us what to do. Spew some knowledge on us Oh Great Newt One.

WRG's picture

Kathleen @ 26:

WHEN FOLKS LIKE ZBIGNIEW BRYZENSKI [SIC], JIMMY CARTER, ARTHUR SCHLESINGER (BEFORE HE PASSED) AS WELL AS MANY OTHERS ARE SERIOUSLY WORRIED ABOUT OUR NATIONS FALL FROM GRACE. YOU KNOW IT'S ALL DOWN HILL UNLESS WE WITNESS A MIRACLE

Off topic I know, but how do think Brzezinski feels about his daughter's (Mica) parroting of right wing talking points on Morning Joe? He has to be embarrassed. One of our greatest thinkers has an offspring that apparently didn't learn that skill.

Hemlock for Gadflies's picture

It must be all that pro-fessin' expurence at Valdosta State College for the Terminally Stoopid what makes him so smart inall. An' he's an inelleckshul to becuz he writs books ware the Yankislamunistofascists gits whuts a'commin to em after theyre war of agreshun agin the south.

greyhawk's picture

The good news, if they really listen to Newt
They'll all rush out to divorce their wives then try to impeach Bush.

Maybe McCain could pick Newt as his veep.

Weaseldog's picture

pissed off patricia @ 41:

Weaseldog @ 31:

pissed off patricia @ 13:

“males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

Hey, I call bs on that statement. Just yesterday I went out hunting giraffes. I wasn't going to harm them or anything, I was just trying to find one. Sadly I must report, there were none in my backyard.

I got a Catahoula Giraffe Hound to scare them away. Haven't seen a giraffe in my yard yet.

I did spot some martinis in my yard on Saturday.

That was me with the two martinis. I guess I was wasting my time in your backyard then if your dog scared all the giraffes outta there.

Sounds to me like the repubs are at the height of desperation.

Let's go to the throne of Newt to ask him to tell us what to do. Spew some knowledge on us Oh Great Newt One.

It wasn't a total waste. You left behind the olives and vodka. Come on by if you want a refill.

Weaseldog's picture

pissed off patricia @ 45:

Maybe McCain could pick Newt as his veep.

I like that idea.

I have money on Joe Lieberman though.

Kevin NJ's picture

slippy hussein toad @ 32:

He actually . . . doesn't. His personality is as abrasive as nails on a chalkboard, and his policies are head-crushing stupid. It was proven years later that the "Contract on America" was of little or no consequence when the R's were returned control of the House in 1994, and that Gingrich's actual "leadership" basically took us to shutting down the government, then the incredibly unpopular impeachment of Bill Clinton. The impeachment debacle was so unpopular with the public that the Democrats actually gained seats during the 1998 elections. Proving once and for all, that Newt didn't know jack shit about what America wanted. He wasn't a leader. He was a fucking big-mouthed demagogue.

I agree almost with everything you said. But I never said he was a good "leader", only good at winning. His "Contract for America" was only important in WINNING control in 94 for the Repubs, not helping America once it did and not keeping control. And once he won, the fact that he was a "fucking big-mouthed demagogue" and lack of leadership became evident, which lead to his downfall. But now, behind the scenes, he can be very effective with his lies, misdirections, and deceit. That's all they have to work with, but they are still good at it, and Gingrich wrote the book. This is not the time to be over confident.

So I'm not disagreeing with you, just making a different point.

Weaseldog's picture
ekwhite's picture

It really shows the bankruptcy of the conservative movement when someone like Newt Gingrich is considered an intellectual. They are in serious trouble.

displaced's picture

Meh, I'm inclined to think Newt has gained some wisdom from getting his ass repeatedly whooped. Of course that's what makes him more dangerous.

ekwhite's picture

Radically Moderate @ 16:

There are only 4 ways that the Repugs could capture the Senate in November:
1. The Dems would have to make some catastrophic mistakes.
2. The Repugs would have to lie their asses off about their lack of governance and oversight under Frist.
3. They would have to fake several terrorist attacks in Sept., Oct, to scare the hell out of the Voters.
4. They would have to use every means available to steal the election from the Dems.
Hmmm, seems as though the only wild card would be the Dems making fools of themselves?

You forgot ways number 5 and 6:

5. Start a war with Iran and promote McInsane as the "man we need in a time of war."
6. Declare martial law and suspend the election. (This would occur after number 3)

Rick's picture

The GOP's problem is not its "image," it's its ideas. From "trickle" down to tax cuts to rebates to preemptive wars, the GOP's ideas have not worked. They have left the country in a hell of a mess. The GOP's problem is simple: "you can't spit-shine shit."

Weaseldog's picture

displaced @ 51:

Meh, I'm inclined to think Newt has gained some wisdom from getting his ass repeatedly whooped. Of course that's what makes him more dangerous.

Yes, maybe. Some people don't learn from their mistakes. They just deny that they are responsible. We call these people, Republicans.

ysbaddaden's picture

I thought volcanoes like Mt. Vesuvius were just full of hot gas.

And didn't it destroy the cities of Pompeii and Herculaneum?

While boosh plays geetar.

Janet's picture

Why I decided to vote Republican and Gingrich had nothing to do with it.

Ron's picture

I know one thing they could do to improve their image. Get behind Kucinich and impeach.

Balakirev's picture

"That sounds reasonable enough, I suppose, but why would Senate Republicans consider Newt a reliable source in the first place?"

Because, Steve, by narrowing their ideological platform--hounding out the moderates and liberals in the Republican Party in Congress--he increased their zeal, and focus. And because his Attack, Attack, and Attack style created the self-defeating mindset of Congressional Democrats that still causes people like Reid to walk nervously in lockstep with Republican-sponsored bills.

None of this makes Gingrich an intellectual, anymore than bouncing checks and pressing his wife for a divorce while she was in the hospital made him an exemplar for Family Values. It's simply that the Republicans threw out their conservative intellectual core when the signed their devil's deal with the Bush team--they traded in their brains for a trip to a victory land. So whom do they have left to turn to when their failed policies abound? Doug Feith? Richard Perle? Paul Wolfowitz? They turn to the one pseudo-brain that did something that worked, at least for a while, and wasn't associated with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars (at least directly).

It's called desperation. Let's just hope in the meantime that we can clean up the Gingrich infection among Democrats in Congress, and get in some progressives to set the agenda in the future.

karl's picture

don't kid yourselves newt was very much part of the divide and conquer strategy leading up last few yrs of clinton into bush. he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. he has skeletons in his closet otherwise i believe he would be running for president.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

Reagan began the Divide and Conquor America Strategy.

mudshark's picture

Janet @ 56:

Why I decided to vote Republican and Gingrich had nothing to do with it.

Thanks for this, great way to start my day. : )

tony's picture

Don't they think it might be better to realize it's not the 50's before they get out of the 70's and 80's.

slippy hussein toad's picture

Kevin NJ @ 48:

I agree almost with everything you said. But I never said he was a good "leader", only good at winning. His "Contract for America" was only important in WINNING control in 94 for the Repubs, not helping America once it did and not keeping control. And once he won, the fact that he was a "fucking big-mouthed demagogue" and lack of leadership became evident, which lead to his downfall. But now, behind the scenes, he can be very effective with his lies, misdirections, and deceit. That's all they have to work with, but they are still good at it, and Gingrich wrote the book. This is not the time to be over confident.

So I'm not disagreeing with you, just making a different point.

But the Contract on America never polled above like 27% awareness among voters. Newt capitalized on distrust of the Clintons after they blew it with Hillarycare in the first Clinton term. He is an opportunist, not a visionary. I don't see opportunities for conservatives in the years ahead. They have shit, pissed, barfed, and left their rotting kills in the nest. It's a mess and all but 28% of the country can see that it is THEIR mess and that THEY are so intellectually hidebound they're incapable of even recognizing that they fucked up and need to clean up. That's why the next generation at least will be dominated by the Democratic party, provided they don't hamstring their own leadership with DLC-type dimwittery.

The just-concluded primary has been a strong step in the right direction on that score.

And I agree with Ron, above -- the only thing the Republicans can do now to salvage their reputation is to impeach Bush. I don't see them doing it. There are two directions they can go from here: they can start purging their party of the more extreme elements, which means Bush, McCain, Gingrich, the PNAC dickweeds, or they can lurch even further to the right in the mistaken belief that their error was not being conservative enough. They appear to have chosen the latter course, so good riddance. The public has gagged on the taste of what they're cooking.

bilhelm-axis of evil-X's picture

Yes Republicans, take advice from the adulterer. He's got sound advice for people just like you!

Kansaskowboy's picture

With McCain as the best the GOP has to offer for a candidate and with Newt the best they have to offer as a spiritual leader...they are in trouble.

fastfeat's picture

Janet @ 56:

Why I decided to vote Republican and Gingrich had nothing to do with it.

That was funny, but the kid with the toy gun was a little young to be the future Iran cannon fodder. Should have shown a high school graduate...

Randy's picture

A sign of GOP party desperation...

liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

Gingrich can kiss my leftist liberal ass!

Snarki, child of Loki's picture

Yes indeed, McCain should follow Newt's plan. What could possibly go wrong, when the guy is a veritable volcano of ideas?

Now for the real question, should Newt be McCain's VP, or just his fairy godfather.

What, did I say something wrong?

Randy's picture

Newt is nothing but another Rush Limbuagh without a cigar.

BushEconomy's picture

To bad bush did not hire him

or spectar

or chaffe

did Bush even know who was picked for him

ha h ah ah hah ha

kaybee's picture

Mount Vesuvius? Good analogy! Mount Vesuvius destroyed those who looked up to it.

karl's picture

Kansaskowboy @ 65:

With McCain as the best the GOP has to offer for a candidate and with Newt the best they have to offer as a spiritual leader...they are in trouble.

don't kid yourselves newt was very much part of the divide and conquer strategy leading up last few yrs of clinton into bush. he is a wolf in sheeps clothing. he has skeletons in his closet otherwise i believe he would be running for president.
you better believe they are in trouble but we must be cautious they will try to win at all cost....cheat/lie. newt
is more right than he is bright. this guy loves religion and politics mixed...he is extreme right and wants war...mccain is trying to appeal to voters by appearing to be a moderate he isn't he's doing what bush did to get votes

LibertyLover's picture

“I refer to Newt Gingrich as the Mount Vesuvius of ideas. He’s got a lot of them — and many of them are very, very good,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas)

Does this mean Newt spews?

I guess since KKKarl Rove is out of favor at the moment, the Repubs have to figure out who else might have that golden ticket to grand ideas. Too bad that Repubs have so closely tied themselves to Big Business. The attitude that "Corporations are better for running the country because they can run more efficiently" is giving way to "Corporations are only out for the bottom line" and back to the idea that "government Can be used for the common good."

If they are seeking Newt's advice. This is a good thing. But remember, the Repubs have to cheat to win.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

WRG @ 30:

Liberal AND Proud @ 3:

I agree...the GOP should listen to Newt.

Newt and McCain should appear together repeatedly. Newt should be on all the news programs, give interviews at every turn. He should appear on Countdown with Keith, so he can reach out to Democrats and progressives.

Yes, we need all Newt all the time.

I couldn't agree more - two old geezers out making ridiculous statements with stupid grins on their faces could only help the Democrats this fall... that is as long as the media doesn't wrap him with the same mantle they have McCain and ignor the truth.

The hell with the media. Newt will give us all the cannon fodder we need for ads.

They want to talk about the Clinton years. OK...it was NEWT who shut down the government. It was Newt who authored the Contract ON America.

ysbaddaden's picture

Do the reichwing have short-term memory loss?

gingrich stepped down, because he thought pursuing Clinton's impeachment was a good thing for the republicans.

And in a mid-term election where they were expected to pick up seats they were routed.

ysbaddaden's picture

74 LibertyLover Says: “I refer to Newt Gingrich as the Mount Vesuvius of ideas. He’s got a lot of them — and many of them are very, very good,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas)

Does this mean Newt spews?

He blows chunks.

Jim Daniel's picture

Way to go GOP! Look to someone whose ideas worked 20 years ago. Looking backward to look forward? I love it. :D

LibertyLover's picture

Janet @ 56:

Why I decided to vote Republican and Gingrich had nothing to do with it.

excellent

LibertyLover's picture

pissed off patricia @ 13:

“males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

Hey, I call bs on that statement. Just yesterday I went out hunting giraffes. I wasn't going to harm them or anything, I was just trying to find one. Sadly I must report, there were none in my backyard.

Oh, POP, everyone knows that giraffes can only be found in zoos... silly wabbit, huntin' is for guys.

jnratliff's picture

I don’t doubt that the Senate GOP caucus is feeling nervous right now, maybe even a little desperate. But, really. Newt?

The answer is because all of the GOP are as batshit crazy and stupid as gingrich is! All these people are fucking idiots. They need to be shunned, disposed of, forgotten about, never allowed to have a position of influence ever again!

LibertyLover's picture

Weaseldog @ 47:

pissed off patricia @ 45:

Maybe McCain could pick Newt as his veep.

I like that idea.

I have money on Joe Lieberman though.

That worked out real well the last time Lieberman was picked as VP candidate.

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LibertyLover @ 82:

Weaseldog @ 47:

pissed off patricia @ 45:

Maybe McCain could pick Newt as his veep.

I like that idea.

I have money on Joe Lieberman though.

That worked out real well the last time Lieberman was picked as VP candidate.

That is why the notion warms my heart.

karl's picture

LibertyLover @ 82:

Weaseldog @ 47:

pissed off patricia @ 45:

Maybe McCain could pick Newt as his veep.

I like that idea.

I have money on Joe Lieberman though.

That worked out real well the last time Lieberman was picked as VP candidate.

i don't think it will be lieberman that will look too much like that movie"grumpy old men"

karl's picture

there talking to talk because he is dirty and hypocrite....he is hardcore neoconservative who is very smart he will remind you of that....he was very smart to bring religion into post clinton politics...it brought on the hate

E in MD's picture

Yes, Republicans. Listen to your Wisened Elder. Do everything he says. That way starting in 09 there will be a Democratic House, Senate and White House and we can start replacing your SCOTUS with people who actually have read the Constitution at some point.

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Weaseldog @ 83:

LibertyLover @ 82:

Weaseldog @ 47:

pissed off patricia @ 45:

I like that idea.

I have money on Joe Lieberman though.

That worked out real well the last time Lieberman was picked as VP candidate.

That is why the notion warms my heart.

Hot patastrami sandwiches with plenty of saurkraut, hoseradish and coarse ground mustard to that to me.
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liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

ysbaddaden @ 77:

74 LibertyLover Says: “I refer to Newt Gingrich as the Mount Vesuvius of ideas. He’s got a lot of them — and many of them are very, very good,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas)

Does this mean Newt spews?

He blows chunks.

Who IS Chunks?!

ysbaddaden's picture

do that

ysbaddaden's picture

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 88:

ysbaddaden @ 77:

74 LibertyLover Says: “I refer to Newt Gingrich as the Mount Vesuvius of ideas. He’s got a lot of them — and many of them are very, very good,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas)

Does this mean Newt spews?

He blows chunks.

Who IS Chunks?!

turdblossom.

liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

ysbaddaden @ 87:

Weaseldog @ 83:

LibertyLover @ 82:

Weaseldog @ 47:

That worked out real well the last time Lieberman was picked as VP candidate.

That is why the notion warms my heart.

Hot patastrami sandwiches with plenty of saurkraut, hoseradish and coarse ground mustard to that to me.

Oh man....those are effin awesome! And they don't warm my heart...but hoooo-dawgies! They make me fart like a Russian mule in heat!

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ysbaddaden @ 89:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 88:

ysbaddaden @ 77:

74 LibertyLover Says: “I refer to Newt Gingrich as the Mount Vesuvius of ideas. He’s got a lot of them — and many of them are very, very good,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas)

Does this mean Newt spews?

He blows chunks.

Who IS Chunks?!

turdblossom.

HA! Naaahaaaasty! GAH!!!!

Paul's picture

I hope they take that vicious snake up on every word of his counsel. He is so out of touch with the changing mood of the country and so out of congruence with even the simplest principles of human decency, that his wise counsel could only put that collection of criminals further behind the 8-ball. Mostly, he can only hasten the GOP's march toward extinction. The real worry is that more and more GOPers will start calling themselves Democrats and enter the Democratic Party as moles, like Lieberman and others, to begin the gradual process of undermining that party. Turning them all into "Centrists".

In the meantime, look for NPR (Neocon Propaganda Radio) to be giving Newtie-snake all sorts of coverage and interviews as the new deep thinker and agent of positive change.

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liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 91:

ysbaddaden @ 87:

Weaseldog @ 83:

LibertyLover @ 82:

That is why the notion warms my heart.

Hot patastrami sandwiches with plenty of saurkraut, hoseradish and coarse ground mustard to that to me.

Oh man....those are effin awesome! And they don't warm my heart...but hoooo-dawgies! They make me fart like a Russian mule in heat!

Hon, that's just WAAAAYYYYY toomuch information... :)

LibertyLover's picture

Paul @ 93:

In the meantime, look for NPR (Neocon Propaganda Radio) to be giving Newtie-snake all sorts of coverage and interviews as the new deep thinker and agent of positive change.

Another reason to re-elect a Democrat to the White House... Perhaps NPR can finally be restored to it's former trustworthy self.

liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

LibertyLover @ 94:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 91:

ysbaddaden @ 87:

Weaseldog @ 83:

Hot patastrami sandwiches with plenty of saurkraut, hoseradish and coarse ground mustard to that to me.

Oh man....those are effin awesome! And they don't warm my heart...but hoooo-dawgies! They make me fart like a Russian mule in heat!

Hon, that's just WAAAAYYYYY toomuch information... :)

Maybe...but it's damn funny!

liberalHUSSEINmoderation's picture

LibertyLover @ 95:

Paul @ 93:

In the meantime, look for NPR (Neocon Propaganda Radio) to be giving Newtie-snake all sorts of coverage and interviews as the new deep thinker and agent of positive change.

Another reason to re-elect a Democrat to the White House... Perhaps NPR can finally be restored to it's former trustworthy self.

OK...while I have noticed SOME right wing BS eminating from my speakers whilst listening to NPR...for the most part, at least to my ear...they haven't changed all that much.
Of course, I don't get to listen as much as I used to.

Bluesage's picture

I can't believe they actually see Newt as an icon. Drop the "i" and I would agree. Next thing you know they will be looking to Tom Delay for all his wisdom. The republican think tank has tanked again. This is hilarious.

bullfrog's picture

newtie!

i've missed my favorite little fascist fathead!

served any bed-ridden, cancer-stricken wives their divorce papers lately, mr. "family values"?

serge's picture

Take Cornyn's advice, PLEASE. Listen to Newt...he's got all the answers that will guarantee the sinking of the Republican ship.

StirFry Belvedere's picture

“His general advice is: Be in touch, don’t be just repeating things you heard from the ’70s and the ’80s.”

Just to continue to repeat things from 90's and 2000's??
How about be in touch by listening to the American people and stop running for re-election.

karl's picture

Bluesage @ 98:

I can't believe they actually see Newt as an icon. Drop the "i" and I would agree. Next thing you know they will be looking to Tom Delay for all his wisdom. The republican think tank has tanked again. This is hilarious.

tom delay has been on the right wing radio air waves they are not ready to bring him out much since he was so out spoken about mccain.........he is a very dirty player i wonder if bush will grant him immunity

so they want someone slightly less slimey than tom delay.
another asshole who, leaves a sick wife for a mistress, priceless
someone who'd rather lock down the government than allow a progressive law to pass.
someone who threatens americans who he deems not patriotic enough.
a man willing to suppress the first amendment.
a man who thinks it's ok the get a blowjob under the desk because "it's not really sex".
the man who's completely qualified to be the AUTHOR OF HYPOCRISY.

It's obvious that they are desperate enough to pull out all the stops.
last week it was tom delay and the "prove you're not a marxist".

I'm sure gingrich will get much face time on cnn with blitzer and fux on any show.
scumboro will probably have him on msnbc. russert and chrissie might give him a shot; it won't surprise me.
door-mat lauer might give newt a shot.

soon, I'm expecting to hear that jack abramoff's opinion will become important, too. maybe Imus will interview him from his fucking cell.

JSG's picture

Leaving office in disgrace must be "street cred" for Republicans.

It sure never hurt any of the Nixon people. Or the Iran-Contra people. Or the S&L people. Etc. I wonder if we are going to see the Bushite Repukes helming the party in 20-30 years? I'm guessing probably.

LOL... "The Party of Ideas". I can't imagine a slogan which is farther from the truth, but then again that's typical of conservatards.

mhj555's picture

Yeah listen to Gingrinch, who resigned in disgrace and shut down the government over a plane ride.
I made a better intellectual this morning in the bathroom.

Amitola's picture

Newt does have a PhD and was actually employed as a college professor for a time - which puts him head and shoulders above McPain (who graduated almost last in his USNA class and crashed 3 or 4 planes while a Navy pilot) and Bush (who majored in cheerleading and booze, though he "got" an MBA, it was obviously a fraud as he ran several companies into the ground and had to be rescued by a couple Saudi sheiks).
So, Newt appears to be qualified as a "spewer of great ideas."

I think Newt would be the perfect VP pick for McPain - they have a lot in common. They could talk about how to legislate ways to avoid paying child support. Or, perhaps swap stories about how to get thiose cute young things with cash to hang out with them. Or, maybe they could just swap wives?!? They're all pigs. Really!

Are Republicans’ memories really this short? In the late ’90s, Gingrich developed a well-deserved reputation for being something of a nut. He shut down the government (twice) and he pursued presidential impeachment over an adulterous affair (while carrying on an affair of his own).

Among the gems we heard from the Mt. Vesuvius of Ideas were the notion that the homeless should get laptops, the benefits of an old-school model of orphanages, and criticizing the notion of women serving in combat roles because “males are biologically driven to go out and hunt giraffes.”

And if we put aside some of his “big ideas,” wasn’t this the guy who led the Republican Party when it lost seats in the ‘98 midterms, and was forced from his leadership post when House Republicans decided they didn’t want to listen to his nonsense anymore?

I don’t doubt that the Senate GOP caucus is feeling nervous right now, maybe even a little desperate. But, really. Newt?

In the dictionary, his picture is next to the word HYPOCRISY

displaced @ 51:

Meh, I'm inclined to think Newt has gained some wisdom from getting his ass repeatedly whooped. Of course that's what makes him more dangerous.

YOU'D BE WRONG! google the sumbitch on cnn, msnbc and fux and see if any pearls of wisdom come rolling out. the last I heard from him, he was telling americans that their first amendment right to speak out against the war should be suspended because it aids the enemy.

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bullfrog @ 99:

newtie!

i've missed my favorite little fascist fathead!

served any bed-ridden, cancer-stricken wives their divorce papers lately, mr. "family values"?

Ha! Newt and crazy ole Johnny can swap kicking first wives to the curb stories because little nuisances like cancer and major auto accidents rob those "selfish" women of their abilities to satisfy them.

Scy's picture

As much a scum as Gingrich is . . . and he's a BIG one . . . it's amazing he's better than most of what the GOP now has to offer. They are a dead party. I am so enjoying this.

Embittered-Max-Hussein-1's picture

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NEWT WISHES AMERICA WAS ATTACKED... MORE!
with video

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Gingrich_Bush_should_have_allowed_attack_0...

During an appearance at a Long Island bookstore last month, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich was asked by a member of the audience why the United States has not been hit again since 9/11.

"I honestly don't know," Gingrich replied. "I would have expected another attack. I was very, very worried ... when we had the sniper attacks, because the sniper attacks were psychologically so frightening. ... I was amazed that the bad guys didn't figure out how to send ten or twelve sniper teams."

"This is ... one of the great tragedies of the Bush administration," Gingrich continued. "The more successful they've been at intercepting and stopping bad guys, the less proof there is that we're in danger. And therefore, the better they've done at making sure there isn't an attack, the easier it is to say, 'Well, there never was going to be an attack anyway.' And it's almost like they should every once in a while have allowed an attack to get through just to remind us."

Gingrich then recommended splitting the FBI into a domestic crime unit, which would respect civil liberties, and a "small but very aggressive anti-terrorism agency" with "extraordinary ability to eavesdrop."

"I think that your liberties in a domestic setting are paramount," Gingrich explained. "I would rather risk crime than risk losing my civil liberties. But I would not rather risk a nuclear weapon. ... I think the greatest danger to our liberty is to actually have the country end up in the kind of attack that would lead us to favor a dictatorship for security."

captain petard's picture

If Newtie is the Vesuvius of ideas, Cornyn's the Mount St. Helens of stupid.

Boston Blackie's picture

Just because Newt's head his big, it doesn't follow that his ideas would also be big!

JaneaneTheAcerbicGoblin's picture

This is another false, idiotic assumption on the MSM. Newt has been called "a man of ideas" a lot (George Will for instance). His ideas are still the same. No taxes for the rich, no health care, more wars, government in the bedroom (except Republicans' bedrooms, they have privacy, you don't), no safety net, everyone gets the finger except the rich.

This is the same BS that McCain is a maverick. I think the GOP is pretty f***ing desperate right now, like f***ed up celebrities turning to Scientology.

Kevin Cleary's picture

I don't think Newt Gingrich is a genius by any stretch of the imagination, but I do think laptops for homeless people are a good idea. I worked with homeless people for years, and I contend that if we were to give one of those $100 laptops to every homeless person in America, at least a fifth of them would be better off in a year or two. It would enhance their computer literacy (although there are a lot of homeless people who are already computer-saavy anyway), and thus help prepare them for better-paying jobs.

Granted, there are a lot of things homeless people need more than laptops, but giving them laptops wouldn't be a terrible thing.

peaceful easy feeling's picture

Are Republicans’ memories really this short? In the late ’90s, Gingrich developed a well-deserved reputation for being something of a nut. He shut down the government (twice) and he pursued presidential impeachment over an adulterous affair (while carrying on an affair of his own).

Clinton's impeachment was for perjury and obstruction. Gingrich is a hypocrite, granted, but not for this reason.

Jack Damage's picture

Visionary??!!!! hahahahahah, yea, well, maybe, if the vision your going for is a nightmare... Otherwise, the whole idea of Gingrich as elder sage and some kind of font of wisdom is almost hysterically laughable.....

What Newt actually amounts to isn't much, and it's been highlighted by others on this thread quite well..................JD

LibertyLover's picture

Look, one should not underestimate Newt. He is behind the current scheme of the Repubs trying to pin the current gas prices on the Dems because we haven't drilled in Anwar. When in reality, oil companies are sitting on tons of oil leases and not drilling because they can spike up the price of oil. And don't be misled... oil companies don't want to build new refineries, in fact they are cosing ones they have already built. The ONLY thing you need to know about the oil companies are the profits they are generating for their bottom line....

Cracker's for Christ's picture

Newt needs something to inspire the troops, like a good slogan; "We know we screwed the pooch last time, but you can rest assured, if you give us another chance, we'll do exactly the same thing."

ysbaddaden's picture

116 peaceful easy feeling

But the Senate didn't vote him out because the charge wasn't proven.

ysbaddaden's picture

Oh, and the one's who were running the impeachment?

Voted out.

James Lewman's picture

If the Rep. wan to go back to their Platform maybe they need to listen to the other guy Ron Paul?

Captain Bitter Husein Kangaroo's picture

I'm thinking that maybe they should mine the intellect of Tom Delay. Or maybe Duke Cunningham. Bob Ney? Surely they can do better than Gingrich.

ysbaddaden's picture

James Lewman @ 122:

If the Rep. wan to go back to their Platform maybe they need to listen to the other guy Ron Paul?

This platform?

http://www.twelvetwelve.com/img/plats/e_kera15.jpg

RobertD's picture

Maybe Repugnicants can do what Newtie did: divorce their first wives while the wives were on their deathbeds, then cheat on their second wives while accusing others of doing the same, then drinking themselves into rehab. That oughta do the trick.

FreeDUMB's picture

Gingrich is heading up the "drill here, drill now, pay less" movement. The idea is that they can pin high gas prices on liberals, even though the price of gas is controlled by OPEC and big oil companies. They are appealing to voters who think they understand supply and demand, but don't really understand Cartels or speculative bubbles. Definitely going for the short sighted and greedy among us.

Powkat's picture

Oh, yes, please, please listen to Newtie - the multiple adulterer and creator of The Contract on America. The man who had to retire from Congress because of his sleazy book deal (ironically the way he pushed out Jim Wright). The man who railed against government but who, until he was forced out of Congress and became a right-wing bloviator, sucked at the public teat his entire life (army brat, public college professor, congress critter). Please, please listen to this idiot.

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liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 97:

LibertyLover @ 95:

Paul @ 93:

In the meantime, look for NPR (Neocon Propaganda Radio) to be giving Newtie-snake all sorts of coverage and interviews as the new deep thinker and agent of positive change.

Another reason to re-elect a Democrat to the White House... Perhaps NPR can finally be restored to it's former trustworthy self.

OK...while I have noticed SOME right wing BS eminating from my speakers whilst listening to NPR...for the most part, at least to my ear...they haven't changed all that much.
Of course, I don't get to listen as much as I used to.

It initially takes some active listening and fact checking. They are much more polished and subtle than, say, FOX Noise. Which...makes them much more dangerous: propaganda works best when those who are targeted for manipulation never catch on to the idea that they are being played. Also, the propagandists at NPR are able to further exploit the fact that long time listeners still view them as being trustworthy. That latent trust is like an effectiveness force multiplier for their propaganda.

Richard Pipes's picture

My daughter gave me a desk calendar with political quotes for each day as a Christmas gift. One was from Bob Dole (wording approximate): In Newt Gingrich's office are three filing cabinets. The first is huge and is labelled "Newt's Ideas". The second is just as big and is labelled "More Newt's Ideas." The third is very small and is labelled "Newt's Good Ideas."

Pretty well sums him up.

Kinich Ahau's picture

What's with the Vesuvius comment? I don't know where he's trying to go with that.

Honestly, the first things that come to mind when "Vesuvius" is mentioned are pyroclastic flows, poisonous gas, and people getting buried alive.

...So perhaps the comparison IS apt :)

Robert59's picture

The way to Republican party salvation are dual impeachments (Bush and Cheney).

BC's picture

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is King.

The Rethug party has had it's day and imploding upon it's own intellectual, moral & legal corruption. There isnt' anyone else out there who is any better than Newt to label as the visionary.

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Paul @ 128:

liberalHUSSEINmoderation @ 97:

LibertyLover @ 95:

Paul @ 93:

Another reason to re-elect a Democrat to the White House... Perhaps NPR can finally be restored to it's former trustworthy self.

OK...while I have noticed SOME right wing BS eminating from my speakers whilst listening to NPR...for the most part, at least to my ear...they haven't changed all that much.
Of course, I don't get to listen as much as I used to.

It initially takes some active listening and fact checking. They are much more polished and subtle than, say, FOX Noise. Which...makes them much more dangerous: propaganda works best when those who are targeted for manipulation never catch on to the idea that they are being played. Also, the propagandists at NPR are able to further exploit the fact that long time listeners still view them as being trustworthy. That latent trust is like an effectiveness force multiplier for their propaganda.

Oh man....that's totally...evil...

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