June 12, 2008 11:30 PM
Open Thread
More Buffy:
"You see, the werewolf is such an . . . extreme representation of our inborn animalistic traits that it emerges for three consecutive nights -- the full moon and the 2 nights surrounding it."
"Quite the party animal."
"Quite. . . It acts on pure instinct. No conscience. Predatory and aggressive."
"In other words, a typical male."
"On behalf of my gender -- hey!"
"Yes, let's not jump to conclusions."
"I didn't jump. I took a tiny step and there conclusions were." -- Giles, Willow, Buffy and Xander
Tim Russert Gone, But Still Doing His Thing
First fatality of Cedar Rapids Flood reported. 59 year old woman, found in her basement on the SW side.
One pump operating in the city, supplying only 25% of the usual water output. Cedar Rapids, Hiawatha, and Robinson are being asked to use their water ONLY for drinking. 16 million gallon consumption per day must still go down to 12 million per day or they will have to start shutting down the water to parts of the city. We're trying, but we're still taxing the system.
Lots of rumors flying around. The local news is doing a great job, but have said they're resources are taxed, and their equipment is quickly getting worn down.
Iowa City is facing a dangerous night as the river rises.
Please keep Iowans, and other Midwesterners experiencing flooding, in your prayers.
i still got nothin'...
i like vampires
the jack palance dracula from the early 70s
Obama's Chicago Boys
Lookout, By Naomi Klein
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20089.htm
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/13/cnns-ware-iraqis-reject-security-agr...
Hey! As a male, I... well, no that's fair.
L.A. Confidential @ 5:
Ok, who do you suggest we vote for?
2 Weeks in a ROW?!?
Hey...maybe my protesting DOES WORK!!!
WTG C&L Admins!!!
I love my C&L Admins!
xoites defends Constitution @ 8:
LOL good one. Anyone but McCain.
1Watt @ 6:
This so so short and so absurd it should just be posted:
CNN’s Ware: Iraqis Reject Security Agreement Draft, May ‘Go It Alone’ And ‘Take Over This War’ From U.S.»
The Bush administration is currently trying to push Iraqis into accepting a indefinite long-term security agreement, with demands including nearly 60 permanent bases, immunity for foreign contractors, control over air space, and authorization for war with Iran.
But Iraqis are rejecting the administration’s stubborn attempts to control Iraq’s future. Today, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki remarked, “The American version of the agreement infringes hugely on the sovereignty of Iraq and this is something that we cannot ever accept.”
Today, CNN’s Michael Ware said the U.S. presented a second draft of the agreement, but Iraqis rejected it because the draft is “the same as the first.” According to Ware, many Iraqis now want to “go it alone” and may even “take over this war”:
WARE: What we’re also hearing from the Iraqi government is they may go it alone, using a hangover snippet of law left over from the original American occupation authority of Paul Bremer.
They could create their own legislation in their own Congress or Parliament, and thereby dictate to America what U.S. troops can and cannot do in this country, where they can go, where they must stay, and how many you’re allowed to have. So you may see the Iraqis taking over this war, and you may see a lot of U.S. gains being drawn back.
Ware explained that in his conversations with U.S. officials, they have accepted that Iraq “going it alone, passing its own laws” is indeed a “legally viable option.”
The negotiations on the long-term agreement are going so poorly that today, a senior government official “expressed doubt an agreement could be reached before the U.S. presidential election in November,” according to the AP.
The administration and its allies are still in a state of denial, however. “We know the Iraqis want us there,” said White House Press Secretary Dana Perino this week. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT) absurdly claimed the dissent in Iraq regarding the agreement is a “sign of our success.”
I heard that the lower third of Indiana is under water, too, but it's not making the rounds in the news.
They don't seem to be doing too well there.
Thoughts and prayers to them all.
On a lighter note: Are you a first class snarker? I am looking for YOU! You're gonna love this! Come join the fun and tell us why YOU are voting Republican. And check out the comments...there are some seriously funny people out there - many of whom are YOU!
L.A. Confidential @ 10:
Gravelmania!
i still still got nothin'...
xoites defends Constitution @ 11:
Yeah, those bases are critical to BushCo. They need a base of operations to do the same shit to all the other Middle Eastern countries. Liberate them from their water, electricity, decent sewage systems, and oil.
That's the freedom we want to bring to the ME.
Fuck Bush!
When the levee breaks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUXXK8pcsd8&feature=related
Kezaro @ 13:
I think Obama is great. Too bad his party is dominated by sniveling, spineless cowards who have betrayed this nation and their constituency by failing to function as the opposition party.
L.A. Confidential @ 10:
Look, no one said Obama was perfect so must make sure that we elect a veto overriding majority in both the house and senate so we can hold him accountable! Lets get to work!
L.A. Confidential @ 5:
good to see obama is getting view points/advice/opinions from several backgrounds and maybe people he doesn't agree with
I think I mentioned this in another thread earlier but I hope the next Meet the Press monitor is Chuck Todd. I fear it may Couric or Gregory though.
Chris Gamble @ 20:
moderator*
skippy @ 14:
I started a new blog today. Maybe not my most creative day. Then again look at the date and the day of the week.
wheeee @ 16:
THAT is the most powerful video I have seen.
Thank you for sharing it.
Every American should see this. Every single one of us.
karl @ 19:
It's going to take a while. The mistrust in this country is screwed into every sinew after the past 7 1/2 years.
MsJoanne @ 12:
Thanks! Got one off there. Forgot that I had a gravatar!
Anyone figure out Battlestar Gallactica yet?
Was that Earth? It down to Adama or Rosalin?
MsJoanne @ 23:
"I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees"
http://www.katrina.noaa.gov/images/katrina-08-28-2005.jpg
Right, sure.
Ireland rejects EU reform treaty
Torpedoed by the only country in the EU that had a vote of their people on the matter. Good for them.
L.A. Confidential @ 10:
pinocet's chile was the chicago boys first experiment.
Andy K Jong Il @ 25:
The people here have THE BEST SENSES OF HUMOR of anyone anywhere! The comments I have read are the best.
I just posted that video (above) as another reason to vote Republican. I am sure we will be seeing videos like this from IA, WI, and IN. (In WI, an entire lake emptied!)
Nope, no climate change at all.
What the Hell is going on? Iowa is in crisis mode! There is no drinking water! MSM is reporting NOTHING! WTF?
its amazing...i dont like buffy or firefly, but am a huge joss whedon fan, for the comics he has written
and i met seth green at a ralphs...he was hording up for what looked like a huge party, and his (hooooooottttttttttttttt) gf left him to pay for the stuff...but he didnt have a ralphs card to get any discount....so i let him use mine....i felt important...it was the least i could do for a guy who makes me laff every week and i have followed since he was a wee one (he is the funniest thing in cant buy me love)
and again today it was reafirmed why i cant stand mike malloy
while everyone is putting aside their issues with russert and how he approached his job, malloy was going off on how he let cheney and the others get away with their lies
christ...that really couldve waited till monday
and malloy still doesnt get it....you dont win people over by calling the people in the bush wh....pigs
they may very well be pigs, but that kinda language just doesnt flow right
crooks, scoundrels, whoremongerers...would be much better
P.D. @ 31:
Everything is falling apart.
L.A. Confidential @ 27:
Add this to it. From a prior C&L thread: Rove played politics while people died!
The GOP makes me sick to my stomach. Obsturction. Greed. War. The most disgusting pieces of shit.
Don from Canada @ 26:
i am so frackin lost this with this season of galactica
and i am waiting for the writers to just have one epi where the only word used is frackin or frack
i forgot who said it, but i fell out of my chair when one of the characters says "i dont wanna fight, i wanna frack"
Don from Canada @ 26:
NOPE.
To me, it looked like they were setting up for a fifth season.
L.A. Confidential @ 33:
hey...bush is too busy making the world safe for democracy
guess corn is gonna be a bit more expensive next week
MsJoanne @ 30:
I'm not going so far to say that's proof of global warming, at least not all on it's own.
Last summer Wisconsin got dumped on, and we didn't get much of it here in West Michigan at all. This summer, we're getting what they're getting, except for the large scale flooding- but that's because the ground in Wisconsin is still saturated from last year.
L.A. Confidential @ 33:
I heard FEMA has stated they are not going to do anything about it right now. That's an improvement of sorts.
They stopped lying.
Well LA, I remember Katrina. The MSM did the same thing. It is so impersonal! They are just some poor people who are miles away from me, so I shouldn't worry my pretty my little head about everything! Where is Bush and his cabal? Have they made a statement? No they don't give a sh*t!
Alison Hannigan is teh hott!!11!1!
Anything for you in your inbox now, Skippy?
BDM @ 42:
she is that indeed
i think its that innocent look and act
gets guys everytime
Andy K Jong Il @ 39:
There is definitely climate change going on. And it might very well be the earth doing a cyclical thing. But I think we are definitely assisting. There is a GREAT documentary on Global Dimming. Check it out. It's about 45 minutes long. Pay special attention to the studies they did when the airplanes were grounded after 9/11.
That was some serious proof as to human impact. Whether we are solely responsible, who knows. But we have an effect, to be sure.
P.D. @ 31:
yeah, nobody is reporting anything except msnbc, nbc, cnbc, bbc, abc, cbs, cnn, and fox it must be a conspiracy
C
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SPIRACY
P.D. @ 41:
Watch this...it's Foamy the Squirrel reporting from hurricane hit LA.
deaths come in threes
this week it has been jim mckay and russert
wonder who goes next
doctormidnight @ 46:
L
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Disreguard
MsJoanne @ 12:
I'd heard that too, but our local news is focusing on Eastern Iowa. The flood water in Anamosa breeched the sewers, and they're asking people not to drive through Jones county. The entire town of Palo is completely evacuated. Vinton is pretty bad too, but the river is falling there. Actually, it's bad everywhere here--but that death above is the first reported. We're hoping it's all we'll have.
P.D. @ 31:
No, there's still drinking water--but it's still taxing the system. I heard their trucking water in to the stores. Businesses far from the river are closing because of the shortage.
I heard we have two days water left, but that could be a rumor. We have lots of rumors--but it's a fact that the system can't keep up the output the city demands with only one pump. I got a flier on my door this evening stressing that we can't bathe, wash clothes, brush our teeth, etc.
most of the people in cedar rapids could not buy flood insurance because they didn't live in the flood plain. many of the houses will be total losses.
I much more prefered Charmed and Supernatural.
hate to continue on with the russert thing....but please watch this vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xej96xFLk6U
its of obama and mcoldman talking about russert
Celeste @ 50:
Celeste, where are you?
Cedar Rapids, NE side off Blairs Ferry Rd.
xoites defends Constitution @ 49:
I misread your statement. i just turned on the tube and poked around.
Wall to wall Russert.
What was that phrase?
Mourn the dead and fight like hell for the living?
The Corporate Media only memorized the first half of that.
tr @ 51:
How far from water are they? I didn't know you had to be in a flood zone. You would thank anyone near a lake or river would be in a flood zone.
That's horrible.
MsJoanne @ 54:
I hope you and all your family members are safe (and dry)!
Why, Oh why, is there a media black-out! These people are suffering. The mayor stated it might not be possible for the residents to return until June,18. What are they going to do? God help us!
Uncle Joe Hussein Mccarthy @ 44:
Yeah, well if I see her skinny ass walking down the street, I'm gonna demand reimbursement for the pain I suffered sitting through Date Movie!
84% support Kucinich's heroic impeachment efforts at this USA Today poll.
http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/06/democrat-files.html
Great Buffy quote, and thanks for the open-thread levity! That's one of my favorite dialogue exchanges from Buffy.
As for the heavy issues of the day: not a fan of Tim Russert's work but saddened by his death; Iowa's flooding, which is likely to get much worse--a time for Americans to help each other out, but will gas/food/mortgage costs keep us from being able to contribute to strangers?; a fairly strong earthquake just hit Japan, but so far the death/damage seems minimal; and, oh yeah, the human race is getting its first up-close microscopic look at the dirt of Mars with the Phoenix lander--come on, that's a great accomplishment! Sometimes, humanity does some pretty nifty things...
Thanks again for the grin-inducing thread quote.
Fortunately we're all okay and dry. My grandparents have well water, so if it does shut off my mother and I can go there. Friends too, if needed. I know so many people who had to evacuate, it's heart breaking. My best friend has a three year old, and she and her husband are with her mother, safe. I'm not sure about another friend, and am worried, because his house is in the 500 year flood plain, and I haven't heard from him since the evacuation order.
It's pretty bad. I mean, we do have water, and most of us have power outside of downtown now. But there are a lot of frightened people--buying all the water and perishable foods they can. It's just unbelievably sad.
MsJoanne @ 57:
I'd think that it works the other way- that insurance companies would want to collect premiums from those less likely to be flooded, and that those in the flood plain would be viewed as liabilities.
P.D. @ 41:
Katrina was it for me. Bush Co's response to that bordered on evil.
Andy K Jong Il @ 65:
Maybe the insurance company actuaries took a good look at how large a flood might possibly occur and opted not to risk it.
xoites defends Constitution @ 56:
“Pray for the dead and fight like hell for the living”
--Mary Harris "Mother" Jones
L.A. Confidential @ 66:
After screwing up on that flood they have decided to ignore this one completely. Which side of the border are they on now?
xoites defends Constitution @ 40:
"People are months behind in their mortgage payments, maxed out on their plastic, handing over their car keys to the lien-holders, and feeding their kids Spam fillets. Truckers get paid less for their loads than the cost of transporting the load. The airlines have financial cancer and will be dead in eighteen months. Container ship costs are heading out-of-sight. Municipalities are going broke. A weekend flood destroyed part of the Midwest corn crop. And, of course, oil prices took a jagged turn upward last Friday en route to their next stop: $150-a-barrel."
Don't know how we are going to get out of this one.
houses more than a mile away had water damage. the ground was saturated and the rain had nowhere to run off, adding to the pooling effect. the cedar river flooding is being called a 500 year event. in wisconsin, lake delton, home of the tommy bartlett water show completely drained when the levy failed. this is in the wisconsin dells area, one of the midwests most populat tourist destination. the people in iowa and wisconsin are working the sandbagging operations and setting up places for people to go. it seems much better organized at local levels than the dissarray we saw in new orleans.
Is there anything on MSM about the flood? I mean, what the Hell! It's 12:25 and the media isn't reporting anything! I'm in PA. and I don't understand this! Jesus, I need a drink!
a lot of activity in pakistan....musharraf is toast
http://therealnews.com/t/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&It...
Thanks BDM, Mother Jones was a good woman.
Amen. Let's elect the moe foe. http://www.BarackObama.com I need change.
Andy K Jong Il @ 65:
That's what I would think, too. Higher premiums for those in the plain and lower premiums for those outside. I wonder how many would take it if they are historically outside of a major flood zone.
Sadder than sad.
tr @ 71:
Yeah. But a lot of it is volunteer manpower too. When the news reported that Mercy Hospital was flooding, they had hundreds of volunteers rush down there (though they still had to evacuate the patients). Same thing with the city's last water pump, when that was threatened. The only reason we have the water we do is because everyone flocked there to save it.
And the police and fireman have been out rescuing people in boats for days.
P.D. @ 72:
I can't remember his name of hand, but Ronald Reagan's Economic Policy Adviser said, "The American citizen has absolutely no right to expect anything from the Government." I guess the media bought his line.
xoites defends Constitution @ 79:
David Stockton or Stockman, i think.
xoites defends Constitution @ 67:
They used to have Act of God clauses. Don't know if they still do.
We got blown around pretty good. I had a tornado touch down about 10 miles from me but nothing but many, many downed trees right here. I can only imagine how bad it is for those right there.
Again my thoughts and prayers for every one dealing with this.
Celeste @ 78:
my point exactly. the locals are taking the bull by the horns and not waiting around for fema and the feds. they know better.
God help those poor people. Maybe I'm paranoid, but could the government be clouding the fact that the Mid-West is in serious trouble? Crops gone, people displaced? I need Prozac!
Orangutan. @ 75:
Good evening. I started a new blog today: Bigots United for McCain (B.U.M.S.)
Well, we haven't been declared presidential disaster yet. No one has. I think the director of FEMA just got here today, but I haven't heard much of what they're up to.
P.D. @ 83:
No, you're not paranoid. That is exactly what is happening. There is virtually nothing in the corporate media. There is no helicopters, no reporters, no nothing.
It's total bullshit to the Nth degree.
When people are in the dark, they won't rise up against the depravity of this beyond corrupt and uncaring administration.
For the people my ass!
MsJoanne @ 81:
Well, you'd better start praying for those downstream on the Mississippi River, because most of those flooding rivers in the Upper Midwest are tributaries of that one.
xoites defends Constitution @ 84:
LOVE. IT!
Chris Gamble @ 21:
Couric works for CBS. Press the Meat is on NBC.
Celeste @ 85:
You want to talk about paranoid, if FEMA came to get me, I mean help me, I wouldn't go with them.
I don't trust this government. At all.
Thank you MsJoanne :)
Was I mistaken, I thought Scottie was going to testify in congress today. I know that Russert's untimely demise was a distraction but, I thought we would hear something.
a short word from gov. sebelius regarding the midwest flood
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=84583&videoChannel=1
iowa city, where the university of iowa is located, will be the next flooding disaster. it will hit them saturday.
MsJoanne @ 91:
Don't confuse paranoia with common sense.
P.D. @ 83:
Simplify.
Plain living, higher thinking.
MsJoanne @ 91:
you must come with master to his unsafe trailer, Smeagol, for the PRECIOUS!
Check out the liberal alternative to the NRA:
http://www.theliberalgunclub.com/
Interesting idea but will it make a difference?
Ron @ 93:
Next week, Ron.
Well ,I figure MSM will dance around the fact that FEMA dropped the ball(Yet again)but no news? I have basic cable. Maybe I should up-grade?
intron @ 99:
I've owned guns all my life. I don't need a club.
Corn hits record for 7th day on Midwest floods
Fri Jun 13, 5:27 PM ET
NEW YORK - Corn continued its record-setting rally Friday, hitting new highs for a seventh straight day as farmers sought to recover from devastating Midwest floods that have destroyed thousands of acres of corn crops and sent food prices spiraling.
Or how to capitalize on other peoples hardship.
L.A. Confidential @ 70:
If only Hillary were the nominee all of this could be resolved with the snap of a finger! Right LA?
karl @ 94:
Well, at least Reuters is saying something.
The footage they have looks just like NOLA.
And the price of food, which isn't high enough of late, will only go up. When I drove through WI about six weeks ago, I was amazed by how much of the farmland was under water then. I can only imagine how it is now.
Floods have sent corn skyrocketing, may drive up gas prices
Friday June 13, 5:00 pm ET
With the national average of gasoline at a record $4.07 a gallon, according to AAA, a 15% increase would translate into an additional 61 cents.
Ruthless People @ 104:
....oh, well. Guess we'll have to make do best we can.
Ron @ 102:
In 1973 when i was 18 i was a sharpshooter. That was the last time i fired a weapon. I don't seem to need a club either.
doctormidnight @ 98:
Hell, if they were to put me in a trailer, I'd be happy. All those FEMA "camps" for "immigrants" scares the living shit out of me. There is no way I will willingly go to any concentration-type camp for whatever reason they say. Dirty bomb, I don't give a shit what it is, I will not go with anyone from the government. They'll shoot me first.
xoites defends Constitution @ 84:
nice one xoites. bookmarked.
Ruthless People @ 107:
What we have to do at some point is muster that sort of zen ability to take a disaster in stride and create something great out of tragedy.
P.D. @ 101:
Don't bother. I have seen virtually nothing.
Let's see, Taliban escapes daring jail break in Afghanistan, the dollar sucks, foreclosures up 50%, people suffering. Yeah, that sounds like the Republican plan!
if we get 60% of last years corn production, the u.s. will be lucky. it's the middle of june and many farmers have to re-plant their corn crop.
xoites defends Constitution @ 108:
One thing you're right about. A club won't do much against guns.
Currently listening to Parade of Terror from the movie Paprika. Seems fitting for some reason.
guns dont kill people bullets do!
L.A. Confidential @ 103:
it won't take long for us to see food price hikes due to animal feed meat/diary and corn syrup ingredient foods some farmers/dairies barely hanging on
tyree @ 115:
Unless you use em as clubs...
Proud2bHumble @ 117:
Heh.
Proud2bHumble @ 117:
I have a club member.
MsJoanne @ 109:
It's disgusting how far we've fallen down in the eight years under this fucking administration. There's a good chance you wouldn't have felt this away before 2000. An American truly afraid of her own government. Wow. Fuck Bush. Fuck them all. Our government needs an enema.
Proud2bHumble @ 117:
true orrrrr if they have a pig sticker attached!
Ron @ 119:
Hey, shug...missed your entry. How ya doin' tonight?
Harkin said it's going to be worse than '93 for agriculture.
And my Mighty Mouse roller ball is dead. I need it with C&L open thread and its 200+ posts a night.
MsJoanne @ 122:
Great, just got here. How abou chou.
MsJoanne @ 110:
not a mention here in the east.
We have to grow our own food people! I have started, cucumbers, tomatoes. Anything! We are Americans! We can get our hands dirty! Hell! I do it every day! We can survive! we are survivors! Grow your on food. It is the only way.
Hi 2b :) Thanks for stopping by.
P2b,
You wouldn't want to be a member of a club that would accept you, would you? Ala Mark Twain.
xoites defends Constitution @ 11:
This is a non issue. Bribes with taxpayer money fix everything.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 126:
I am near Chicago so that covers east and midwest.
Ron @ 125:
Dandy, darlin'!
karl @ 116:
check your grocery bill again. half of food stuffs is excluded from inflation calculations.
P.D. @ 127:
I live in the desert. Cactus gets old real quick.
L.A. Confidential @ 17:
Pelosi is the neo con scum who is responsible.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 132:
What does this mean?
xoites defends Constitution @ 128:
Great idea ;-}
MsJoanne @ 131:
I've been watching the John Adams DVDs. We have'nt sacrificed near as much as they did. It's our turn.
woodguy @ 129:
Not unless it was something like a "Press The Meat" club, lol on ya fo dat ;-}
yo muhfuggahs,
wazzzzup?
living in booshworld is pissing me off.
Well, It's 1am. Nobody is talking about the flood. I think I'll just go to bed and wonder what the Bush Adminisration will come up with next. Bomb Iran? WTF?
http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/19891824.html
Here's aerial video of the heart of downtown Cedar Rapids. It gives a good idea of the devastation, but there's a lot more--mostly homes--they don't show.
There are links to other aerias of Palo, Vinton, Marengo, Amana, and Blairstown. Also a link to Coralville and Iowa City as of this morning or afternoon, but they're flooding more right now.
MsJoanne @ 135:
I"m guessing he's saying that when the government tabulates their inflation stats, things like food, fuel, and other neccessities are not included. Just stuff like buggy whips and sealing wax. If so, he's right. The real rate of inflation is probably 15-20% despite what the government would like you to believe.
i have a feeling that if you plant a garden proud to be will smear camo on his face strip down buck nacked and with a combat knife in his teeth raid your garden at the stroke of midnight! the new breed! midnight shopers!
MsJoanne @ 135:
not included in CPI but the prices will and have been going up rather quickly
Ron @ 137:
Looks like it's going to go that way.
Those FEMA cam's are not for immigrants. Since when has the US had a need to imprison many millions of immigrants?
Fuck it...as they say, live free or die hard. Yippie Kai-a, motherfucker.
Proud2bHumble @ 138:
Thanks. Truth be known, I plagarized it. Long time, no post twixt us.
P.D. @ 127:
I built a raised garden this year. First time attempting to grow anything. I have tomatoes, bell peppers, cucumbers, collard greens, radishes, lettuce & watermelon going. It's actually very empowering, especially for a 20 year old student with little money.
iraqi parliament want us out they're saying were the problem
most of us are aware of this but i'm not seeing much of this on the idiot box
http://www.truthout.org/article/iraqi-parliaments-push-sovereignty
MsJoanne @ 145:
They cannot stop free independant thinking.
tyree @ 143:
Not a pretty picture. The truth is painful sometimes. In this case, to the imagination.
woodguy @ 142:
Easily. I buy stuff on sale. And I am blessed in that I travel extensively so my clients pay for most of everything while I am gone (which is 1-3 weeks a month).
I make a damned good living (but I am single) and it would be a little tough for me. I can't imagine people who are at the Gas or Food place. I can imagine there are alot of those.
It cost me $75.00 to fill up my car. Thankfully, that will last me a month or so. Imagine people who have to do that two times a week.
Ron @ 149:
I did this last year.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
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