McCain Fundraiser: "Rape is like the weather"
Sen. John McCain on Friday abruptly cancelled a Monday fundraiser that had been scheduled at the home of a Texas oilman, after ABC News contacted the campaign inquiring about a verbal blunder the Texan made during an unsuccessful 1990 campaign for governor.
Clayton Williams stirred controversy during his 1990 campaign for governor of Texas with a botched attempt at humor in which he compared rape to weather. Within earshot of a reporter, Williams said: “As long as it's inevitable, you might as well lie back and enjoy it.”
His Democratic opponent at the time, the late Ann Richards -- who, coincidentally, would lose the governor’s mansion to George W. Bush in 1994 -- highlighted the comments in a TV ad during that 1990 campaign. (see above)
McCain campaign spokesman Brian Rogers said the Monday event was being cancelled, given the offensive comments. He said he could not yet say what McCain would do with donations brought into the campaign by Williams.
"These were obviously incredibly offensive remarks that the campaign was unaware of at the time this event was scheduled," Rogers said. He added that Williams apologized for the comments back in 1990, but he said that does not excuse them.
Williams told the Midland Reporter-Telegram recently that he had already raised more than $300,000 for McCain and the fundraiser to be held at his home in Midland. Williams said that he needed to help McCain raise money to stop an Obama campaign that would enact “socialist” policies if elected to office.
Here's an idea, McCain: Why don't you RETURN the money from such a sexist, hateful and ignorant swine? Or is this a new demographic you're hoping to capture? The Back Forty:
A man who has such a disgustingly cavalier attitude towards something as horrific, violating and criminal as the rape of a woman has no place in politics, let alone polite society. This is a man who should be shunned by anyone with a conscience. That includes Senator McCain.
It’s not enough that Senator McCain cancels an event because the media got wind of it.
It’s not enough.
Senator McCain should publicly reject and denounce this man.
He should donate every single dirty dollar that this man has raised for him - all $300,000 - to an organization working to combat rape in our society - like RAINN or RVA.
And he should apologize immediately and completely to his female supporters for daring to entertain the thought of keeping company with this despicable, disgusting individual.
McCain can't take a step without stepping in fecal matter. Doesn't his campaign understand the importance of doing some background checks on anyone even vaguely associated with his campaign? I know they know how to use Google so maybe they could start there.
This SOB who was going to hold the fund raiser should be in jail or something. He's a horrid human being.
I despise Mcsame, but honestly, this is pretty lame, and I say that as a woman. Williams, a jackass I will concede, did not tell the "joke" in a campaign speech--it was simply overheard by a reporter. I've said loads of tasteless things in my life, but thank God reporters weren't listening.
John McCain is an amoral, power-mad creep without one sincere conviction to his name--I mean other than that he should rule the world; he's perfectly sincere in that conviction. There's lots of legitimate stuff to nail him on. This is just silly.
how does it feel mccain to be called on who you have been associating with.........
Right...........I remember my former husband making a joke about rape once. I couldn't believe he actually thought a rape joke was funny. After a lengthy discussion about it, he got it.
Any rape crisis counselor will tell you, if it wasn't already obvious, that rape is, of course, a crime of violence, and sexuality has nothing to do with it. It would be like making a joke out of someone beating the shit out of your mother, sister, wife, or daughter. You probably wouldn't find that very amusing now, would ya???
Another freakazoid who thinks they're a master of the universe just becasue they have a lot of stolen green paper. Sheesh, grow up, and EVOLVE.
These are the kind of people that need to be sent to Iraq on the front lines. Just tell em it's raining.
The "joke" tells you a lot about the man telling it. If he had told it in a campaign speech he would have been an idiot. So the man isn't an idiot, he's just terribly heartless and possibly an asshole.
Where is the fake outrage and endless coverage from Faux?
You people obviously have never been to the Midwest or to small towns all over this country. 99% of the people I grew up with
make this guy look like Gahndi!!!!!
wtf, if McCain turns his back on this guy he is turning his back on hise BASE!!!
Dr. (terrorist fist jab) Matt @ 7:
Ain't gonna happen
can you believe the GOP's actually asking us to put a guy in charge who doesn't even know how to turn on a computer, in 2008?
if we're gonna go that route, why not hand america's keys over to an amish master butter churner?
or why not just exhume the corpse of ronald reagan and prop it up in the oval office for the next 8 years?!
well, to be fair McCain does need the sexist, hateful and ignorant swine vote to have a chance at winning.
bullfrog @ 10:
I think that's Plan B
OK, look, I'm not going to be a douche and say "it was just a joke" or "lighten up" or any of that hoohah. I'm not the kind of cat to get offended over a joke no matter how bad in taste it is. But that's me, and I can understand people being offended by the comment.
What I would say (because I don't know - heh, maybe I should learn how to use the google) is if Williams has ever expressed remorse for his comment. I mean this was 18 years ago. I was 20 back then, on college radio trying to be all shock jock-y, and I'm sure if I remembered certain things I said or did back then, I'd be remorseful. Did this guy ever apologize? Did he ever try to make things right, with his community, with offended women, with his own karma? Has he repented in his own way & tried to repair the damage he did? Or is he like George Macaca Allen, still shrugging his shoulders saying "What? Wha happa? You pussies need to get a grip."
And finally, IF he's expressed remorse, should he be forgiven?
Look, just by virtue of the fact that a: He's a Republican and b: he's fundraising for McCain, I'm going to go out on a limb and say he probably only sees his faux pas in selfish terms - if people weren't so gosh darn sensitive, he would've won his election and things would be SO much better for him now. In other words, I'm sure he sees his downfall as the fault of others' sensitivity, not his own hubris. But I'm only throwing it out there because if someone winds up sending some a-hole like Drudge a link to an article about how Williams has been donating steadily to womens' charities, and has otherwise tried to make amends, then the liberal blogosphere looks like they jumped the gun on condemning a guy, not being forgiving, ready to demonize everyone associated with McCain, etc. And maybe a lot of liberals DON'T think Williams deserves forgiveness, even if he apologized (again, don't know if he did). But to Christians or neocons looking for another reason to demonize libs, THIS would be grist for that particular mill.
So, here's hoping Williams is still kind of a jerk after all these years.
marko @ 8:
too bad.. no more free pass he has to explain his associations...just like barack...have him make a decision
Put this putz in a Texas prison overnight, and I'll bet he'd be singing the Stevie Ray Vaughn tune "Couldn't Stand the Weather" falsetto...
Well whatever, the McCain campaign decided to back off that fundraiser that was planned. So I'm guessing the guy never came out publicly and apologized for his "joke".
Any guy or woman who would make a joke about rape is not a decent person, I don't care when they made it or under what circumstances. It's just that simple.
Here's a little joke for Clayton.
What's the difference between a hog bein' slaughtered and McCain, who is running against Obama?
You got me.
Har har har
Hey- C&L guys - Whoever is charge of picking the clips check out this McCain green screen clip- it's great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnb2IrsU1Cg
peter @ 18:
good stuff..........i would like to see more youtube comparison......more mcFlipFlop.....this guy doesn't anything except pandering
"...something as horrific, violating and criminal as the rape of a woman..."
Please, don't put words in his mouth! He never said anything about a woman.
I prefer to think that he was fantasizing about himself being bent over a cactus and getting the Larry Craig Idaho Express treatment...
I'm with slappy magoo on this one (har). This was 18 years ago, and as it says in the summary he did apologize for the remarks back then. This was a tasteless joke from somebody with a sick sense of humour, but that's all it is.
Clayton Williams's stupidity helped get Ann Richards elected.
He may've inspired Ross Perot's run for office.
That's why I much prefer Clayton Moore.
Only Williams would enjoy laying back and enjoying a tornado!
Charming Guy! Is there any McCain supporters who are at least presentable?
A man who has such a disgustingly cavalier attitude towards something as horrific, violating and criminal as the rape of a woman has no place in politics, let alone polite society. This is a man who should be shunned by anyone with a conscience. That includes Senator McCain.
Agreed.
Now, what to do about a man who calls his own wife the C* word and says that she paints her face like a trollop?
McCain's contributors are like the weather. The harder the downpour of cash the more likely it is that they will soak the American taxpayer when payback time comes. Maube the rape of our treasury would be a more apt comparison. Just lay back and enjoy it folks.
karl @ 19:
By your friends we will know you.
Yeah.
Part of the problem we have here is that Texas politicians have a reputation for colorful language. Ann Richards was a master (mistress?) of this practice.
One of FDR's vice-presidents was from Texas, and compared his office to a warm bucket of spit.
They ought to build a statue in the Rose Garden of LBJ picking up his houndog by the ears.
Williams and Perot tried to maintain that in a world growing impatient with "folksiness," particularly since they never were just plain folk. It's like a Yankee lawyer in a southern court, trying to imitate Matlock.
The worst of all is that Connecticut Yankee prince georgie.
marko @ 8:
Texas != Midwest, an I object to the slander of my region.
As poster #2 explained this is a lame overreach on C&L's part. I really hate the gotcha! politics. Do we really think the fact that McCain's acceptance of a fundraiser from one guy who once said something outrageous 18 yrs ago unbeknownst to him indicates anything? I'd be really defensive if it were Obama instead, so I can't complain about McCain.
flamethrower @ 26:
What treasury? Bush and Cheney have already taken care of that. All that's left of the treasury is a few moths and a promissory note to China.
LibertyLover @ 25:
personally i'll settle for him losing the election many of us don't want to get/take it to this level but unfortunately you have to fight dirt with dirt.......i want to talk issues but many get off talking about past associations.the rev. wright deal that should be done but they're going to shove it done the throats of people in ohio,w. virginia and kentucky
Satan Williams is spewing his shit again?
LibertyLover @ 31:
No capital reserves left, the nation is $20 trillion in debt, $53 trillion in worthless IOU's, all of the capital marketplaces are teetering, and the nation is bleeding red ink at the rate of $1.43 billion per day.
What I thought was particularly fascinating about this incident was the role the press (ABC News & Washington Post) played in bringing William's remarks to light and, apparently, precipitating McCain's Campaign's decision to cancel the reception.
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/06/13/mccain_cancels_fundr...
McAlzheimers is such a trainwreck of a candidate it's not even fun anymore.
Yes, I am a man. But how is what he said tasteless? The comment doesn't even have anything to with rape, much less the rape of a woman. I'm a big fan of Ann Richards, but this was blown out of proportion then, and it's being blown out of proportion now. Perhaps the guy is a horrible sexist, but his comments are hardly an indication of it.
Hell, if a bad storm were coming my way and there wasn't crap I could do about it, I might say the same thing.
to some people 18 years ago is like yesterday AnnRichards daughter Cecile Richards hasn't forgotten.......that's her call
Mike @ 30:
Here's the problem... I grew up in Texas and still have family there (Hi, Mom!) And things change oh so very slowly in Texas. It is still very much the same was it was 18 years ago. And Oilmen don't change. Claytie also helped fund the Karl Rove/GW Bush's smear campaign against Ann Richards making innuendoes about her "playing for the other team."
Yep, some of it is gotcha politics, but McCain is the one who cancelled the fundraiser... now why would he do that, do ya think? Perhaps it is because McCain is trying to woo the women's vote that would have gone to Hillary? Perhaps if these potential women voters found out that McCain was hangin' with a guy who once joked about rape, you think that they would be AS LIKELY to vote for McCain in the fall? I think not.
So -- a post about this IS relevant, no matter what you may think. If the McCain camp didn't think that it was important, don't you think that they would have just gone ahead with the fundraiser?
I apologize. The post is very poorly written. It doesn't explain the context of his comment. He WAS specifically talking about rape.
But the post above doesn't indicate that. What he said was horrible.
Wow, "Ultra Slimey"! Good Times......
It seems lately anytime I go to check out a YouTube video that is even mildly damaging to the right wing, I get a "We're sorry, but this video is no longer available " message. I think it's fair to say YouTube has been co-opted . Anyone else get this ?
McCain needs the vote of every woman he can muster to have a prayer in November. Hell, I live in N. California and well remember that remark.
So it boils down to him having honestly not known of the incident (unlikely), in which case the question becomes: where the hell were his campaign managers? Or secondly, he stupidly gambled that no one would recall the incident, and/or make a big deal about it if they did (Bingo!); or finally, he thought the rape crack both inoffensive and humorous, and so dismissed any warning that many women did not (again, Bingo!).
Whatever the explanation, he ends up looking like an incompetent clown (and undoubtedly, a very pissed-off one, too). I'm really looking forward to this campain.
Not only did this vile excuse for a human being (Williams) joke about rape in this fashion, he also ...."waxed nostalgically about getting "serviced" in whorehouses --- but he didn't believe that prostitutes or any other woman had a right to a legal abortion. He also refused to shake Ann Richard's hand in public. Women accounted for 53% of the vote that year -- including 22 % that considered themselves Republican..." paraphrased from Laura Flanders' book: "Bushwomen"
So the fact that McCain wants to distance himself from this scum is very telling indeed. But he should return the money as well.
iraqhusseinconcilable @ 42:
Never noticed that it had to do with content, but occasionally I do get the message to which you refer. Usually I can play it if I go back, then forward again. Or else copy and paste the link directly rather than opening it from the original page.
mcsame plays the role of the gentle caring and loving old man who would govern our country with compassion and sage wisdom. I think it's well known that he has a temper. He has not been pressed yet to allow it to show through. But the time will come prior to the election. Now we have to see how his people will spin it or how the media will report on it. Middle America is ready in every sense to embrace him. Once they see the temper, i can imagine them stating something along the lines as that being exactly the kind of temperament that's needed to deal with them thar terrists. Watch for it, it's coming. He is no gentle compassionate thinking old man any more than bush was the yokel he appeared to be. McSame has a role to play and he needs to stay within the role. Bush played it to the hilt. This will be mcSame's only chance in this election. He needs to stay within the role.
When he elects to accept money from people who utter and believe statements such as these, he does so by design. Someone suggested that he give the money back to show that he does not need the support of narrow minded backwards thinking people such as these. What are those chances. none. why should he, the repubs and conservatives have been skating on a lot worse with total impunity. Until they are served notice of a new law, one that preceeded the current administration, that is now in effect. They will continue to push the envelope.
See McCain debate McCain
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/06/mccain-2005-vs.html
Tex Antoine, a long-time weatherman in NYC, was fired from his job for saying the same thing long before 1990. He was never heard from again.
But these Republican scumbags keep coming back, as long as they have money they have influence.
Please stop giving the other side something to make us look like asses - by making us look like asses. It's stupid enough that he has to go through this at all. Stop being hypocritical. We used to leave that to the Republicans. Remember Obama having to leave his church? Yeah, just as stupid. And, no, he shouldn’t have to do anything one way or the other with the money. Again, stop being hypocritical. Imagine if someone came to your door, “Hey, would you like to support Obama with $50 or even $20?” “Sure” you respond, “In fact, take $100. I really want to support him and his ideals that I agree with.” Now, imagine that weeks, even months later, you find out that the person in charge of that particular group of people who took your money, turned out to be an ex-con. Let’s make him really bad say he’s a rapist. Yes, Obama should condemn this. He should make sure he’s fired and cut all ties with him. But, should he get rid of all of the money that he “gave” to the campaign? No! Absolutely not. The con didn’t give his personal money. He directed a group of people to canvass and collect money from DONORS. From YOU. Part of that money is YOURS. Now, wouldn’t you feel disenfranchised? I sure as hell would. I gave that money – my money – for a certain cause and that’s where I want my money going. So, please people. There are plenty of REAL issues to attack McCain on. Use them. What’s next? What his hairstylist did in 1982? Get real.
Ben,
The GOopers are making themselves look like asses, and nobody is an ass who points out their sickening and inhumane members. The money they raise by using rape as a joke is blood money, pure and simple.
Why would any woman (or man) in their right mind vote for a man who associates with people who think rape is funny? I mean, what's funny about forcing someone to let you violate their body without their permission? Is it funny when they scream for help? Is it a great joke to some that people don't want their bodies violated by boors? that a person has a right to permit or not permit sex with someone? Why can't Rethugs see this? Why do they continue to associate with rapists and call "friend" those who would rape little girls in the name of god? Do GOPers sit around the country club joking about rape and NOT get how painful it is for those who have suffered it? Is it one of those things they think is cool to joke about, like dragging black men to death on a highway? Har. Har. Har.
I don't get it. Neither does McCain, apparently. This is why nobody who is sane would even think of voting for this pig. He lost my respect when I read about how he treated both his wives; how he participated in savings and loans disasters that stripped innocent people of their money. He's not worth it. If there can be anybody worse than Bush, it would be McCain.
Honestly.
Perhaps all the women that we so offended by Hillary's loss and were going to vote for McCain will have a change of heart. Whatever perceived injustice they felt over the primary pales by comparison.
his comment wasn't even original. bobby knight said the same thing in an interview with connie chung long before that.
Ummm...the Christian religion is based on the forced impregnation of a 12 year old girl by an "all wise" old invisible guy.
Why are you surprised?
all republicans have become lowlife shit eating lying scum.
I no longer hire republicans. I don't ask if they are republicans but if they tell me they are I just won't give them any work. I use the don't ask don't tell policy.
You would be better off hiring a convicted murderer at least they have a small amount of honor, something republicans are lacking!
JOHN "THE BUSH REPUBLICAN" MCCAIN IS LIKE THE WEATHER======>
10 he runs hot and cold
9 he blows like a him-McCain
8 he sucks like a hurricane
7 he's cold and wet and makes no sense
6 he makes normal people sweat and shivver
5 it's not nice to fool Father McCain
4 God created both weather and McCain on the 4th day
3 everybody talks about him, but nobody does anything about him
2 his appearance causes a depression
1 his favorite doctor is a meaty-urologist
Is this really a story?? Some old guy made a joke that a reporter overheard? This is such tabloid BS. Do we reallky need to stoop to this?? There are so many more relevant things a to rag about McCain. This just makes us look petty!
"Is this really a story?? Some old guy made a joke that a reporter overheard? This is such tabloid BS. Do we reallky need to stoop to this?? There are so many more relevant things a to rag about McCain. This just makes us look petty!".
Not quite. That "old dude" was running for governor of Texas when he made that remark. It went a lond way in getting Ann Richards elected. Don't mess with Texas women, bubba.
Helena Montana @ 2:
it is the "tasteless" things people say that reveal their true character. dubya, over an open mike in 1999 referring to a journalist as a "major league asshole", for instance.
how christian for a "compassionate conservative"!
yet more...how common for those who've never been sexually harrassed or raped to think those who have should "suck it up". like men who've never been to war berrating those who don't want to go.
sorry. any man who refers to a woman as a "c*nt", even in jest, doesn't "get it" as far as i'm concerned. even if he and his wife consider it a term of endearmeant.
Long Tooth @ 57:
So he did us an inadvertent favor. Good for us. It's ancient history and invites the same ridiculous things in to campaigning.
Helena Montana @ 2:
sorry,helena montana. your assessment that mccain is an amoral,power mad-creep is accurate. but between the "liberal media bias" and deibold voting machines, i think every pimple on mcbush's...er...mcsame's...er..mccain's character must be picked.
why is mccain so desparate to be president?
I wonder if McSame was hoping to get invited out to Claytie's ranch to participate in one of the legendary Clayton Williams "honey hunts"? (look it up).
My uncle got mixed up with Williams back when he was working for him as one of his top sellers at Claydesta Communications, and as one of the regional campaign managers when Claytie ran for Governor. It was the beginning of a downward spiral that lead to my uncle's complete ruination. Let's just say Claytie and his peeps are not exactly the best moral influence one could have.
Clayton Moore may've not been a real Texan, nor the writer of this creed, but both represented Texas well.
The Lone Ranger's Creed
"I believe that to have a friend,
a man must be one.
That all men are created equal
and that everyone has within himself
the power to make this a better world.
That God put the firewood there
but that every man
must gather and light it himself.
In being prepared
physically, mentally, and morally
to fight when necessary
for that which is right.
That a man should make the most
of what equipment he has.
That 'This government,
of the people, by the people
and for the people'
shall live always.
That men should live by
the rule of what is best
for the greatest number.
That sooner or later...
somewhere...somehow...
we must settle with the world
and make payment for what we have taken.
That all things change but truth,
and that truth alone, lives on forever.
In my Creator, my country, my fellow man."
The Lone Ranger
Written by Fran Striker
PS... despite what some misinformed person has posted here, the Clayton Williams case was not simply a matter of "some old guy making a joke that some reporter overheard". Clayton was speaking to a group of reporters and ranch arounds the camp fire at his ranch. Because they were all male, Claytie was convinced that they would all think it was funny and keep it to themselves. This is the sociopath who refused to even shake the hand of his opponent, Ann Richards, during the campaign. The guy who went on TV in Texas during the campaign bragging that he would introduce small-time juvenile drug offenders to "the joy of bustin' rocks". On a hunting trip, he and his cronies once berated my uncle for not pulling the trigger on a buck that in my uncle's rifle sites (my uncle was legally blind). My uncle yelled back that he could not see the object clearly enough in his sites to identify it, and he would not pull the trigger on something he could not identify. They berated him anyway. Classy bunch of folks.
I've lived in Texas nearly my entire life and remember the Williams vs (Ann) Richardson race well. Williams, a rich Texas multimillionaire in the telecom business (one of the first company to offer Long Distance phone service to following the breakup of AT&T), Williams was a gaff machine, with a string of "questionable comments" leaking out during the campaign, but in such a heavily Red state, his lead stayed strong...
Until THIS particular gaff just days before the election. Women bolted en masses and helped Ann Richardson to a narrow win.
It's almost vomit inducing thinking back just how utterly vile the man had to sink before enough voters finally said "enough in enough!" And even then, Richardson only barely won, and was out in the next election when they ran Monkey Boy against her, who wanted revenge for that "Silver Spoon" comment.
I'm offended that people are offended by a joke from 18 years ago. Stop the faux outrage. I make more offensive jokes than this on a weekly basis. Seriously, non-story.
Mr. Anon @ 65:
It's easy to dismiss this story when you didn't live it. The man is truly offensive. A bigot (made "N-word" jokes), and misogynist, made AIDS jokes, etc and so on, and STILL was the darling of the Republican Party.
Now, 18 years later, the GOP is fund-raising from his home. Apparently, they didn't weren't too terribly offended either.
And, aside from everything that smells rotten about this, how about how
unseemly" is this, to have a scummy,multimillonaire BIG OIL MAN fundraising
and donating for you?
Think that Claytie might have a reason? And quite possibly want
somthing in return later? Things like this need to be exposed,and highlited
hard, and often. SHEESH!!!!!
Dnurse
Mr. Anon @ 65:
Then methinks you ought to rethink your offensive jokes... your friends and colleagues aren't laughing with you, they are politely laughing at you.
And if it is NO Big Deal, then why did McCain Pull the fundraiser?
Isn't it an interesting pattern that McCain is oh so very happy to take money behind closed doors?
But once there is a controversy he runs like a gazelle!
I worked for Clayton Williams from for two years in the late 1970's. By the time he began his run for Governor, I had moved to Utah.
Anyway, when I found out he was running, I moved back to Texas just to vote against him.
What is incredible is the McCain camp apparently knew nothing of his "rape/weather" statement.
Clayton had been far ahead of Ann in the polls, and was already picking out drapes for the office. But then he made his comment, and compounded it by refusing to shake Ann's hand at a televised debate.
These two events should be in every politicians guide book of "things not to do" and committed to memory.
Amazing
I have no doubt McCain keeps disgusting company, but I bet this guy was comparing weather to rape, not "rape to weather," as the post has it.
Mr. Anon @ 65:
Yeah rape's almost as funny as genocide, which is a real knee-slapper.
You'd probably find rape even funnier if it happened to you, don't you think so?
48 KEITH THOMPSON Says: Tex Antoine, a long-time weatherman in NYC, was fired from his job for saying the same thing long before 1990. He was never heard from again.
I'm late getting here, I know, but I wanted to add that in the Summer of 1980, when I was living in San Francisco, this same incident happened on TV.
I was making dinner and watching one of the local newscasts. An announcer gave a brief story about a local rape case and then, affecting a bad Chinese accent said: "As Confucius say, when rape is inevitable, lie back and enjoy it." I didn't believe what I had heard; it was just too "OUT THERE" to comprehend - so I "let it go".
About a week later, I saw a tiny new-item in the SF Chronicle (?) about the incident. It was your basic, 1-column-inch notice saying that the guy had been fired.
That was that.
This is a non-story, the same as Obama's association with Rev. Wright. I fail to see why presidential hopefuls should be taken to task for the comments that a supporter made nearly two decades ago. Since you were really so incensed by the Rev. Wright coverage (I'm a long time reader) you should hold the media to the same standard for McCain. Granted, Wright never said anything as patently offensive as this, but I still think this is non-issue.
I know this thread is a day old now, but dig this:
Clayton Williams was born in 1931.....SO, when he made this comment, HE WAS 59 years old!!
Kinda puts a whole new light on it. A 59 year old man made this gross comment, it's not like he was 18........there is no hope for a 59 year old man who, in a public setting, let's loose with a RAPE "Joke."
Wonder if he had any granddaughters back then, daughters, a wife, a mother?????
LibertyLover @ 25:
I keep wondering what Cindy McCrazy will do after Crash loses in November.I wouldn't doubt that she shit cans this asshole because she's only holding on under the assumpion that McBush wins and she'll be first lady. See ya Johnny boy.Looks like you'll be back down to one house after November!Ha Ha
ysbaddaden @ 62:
It says a lot when you have to use fictional characters as examples to hold up to the rest of society.
That tells us just how messed up your state is.
By the way... just how many Mexicans did you guys kill? How much land did you steal from them?
History doesn't disappear.
BrokenArrow @ 75:
You have to wonder if they were scared of him. He's not the kind of person who should have been trusted around anything female.
77 Numinous
How many Indians did your state kill, or if on the West Coast how many Asians and people of color did your state kill working on the railroads and unsafe mines, or if the East Coast, how many immigrants did you put in lethal over-crowded tenements, working people to death in 14 hours a day shifts in the local unsafe factory?
I was holding this up as an example to all.
Didn't that idiot Bob Knight say the same thing?
These people know no shame.
These are the same cretins that rape their own wives.
This doesn't surprize me at the least. They're such pigs!
ysbaddaden @ 80:
Asshole,
I'm Puerto Rican. My people were victims.
Jackass.
I was an 11 year old when Clayton Williams ran for governor of Texas and I can still recite word for word what he said about rape. I remember discussing with my SIXTH GRADE FRIENDS in Dallas, Texas how revolting that statement was. It absolutely sunk his campaign, and he's been lurking in the political abyss ever since. No one has wanted to touch the guy since he lost the race, and all of a sudden the McCain campaign digs this guy up? Unbelieveable. I never thought I'd see Williams' name in the press again. It's a truly pathetic commentary on the McCain campaign...that is why this is newsworthy. And also, it's a big fat lie that they weren't aware of his infamous comment. To say that it was just a joke that he made 18 years ago really shows some of the commentors' historical ignorance.
Reading this reminds me of the old saying "if you lie down with a dog, you will get up with fleas". I have no idea why John McCain thought it was a good idea to accept a fund-raiser from a misogynist old Texas moonbat, but this is a severe lapse of judgement. The guy is a shameless relic of the days when women were to be found either in the kitchen or the bedroom. He should have been left there.
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