Pakistan protests Afghanistan: 'absolutely clear that Pakistan shall defend its territorial sovereignty."
By John Amato Sunday Jun 15, 2008 7:30pm
After the news that almost 1000 prisoners escaped their jail cells with the help of the Taliban, President Karzai said he would cross into Pakistan and hunt them down. That's not sitting all that well with Pakistan as they say they will protect their borders.
Pakistan on Monday summoned Afghanistan's ambassador to lodge a strong protest over President Hamid Karzai's threat to send Afghan troops to fight Taliban leaders inside Pakistan.
In a statement, Foreign Minister Shah Mahmood Qureshi described Karzai's comments as "threatening" and "regrettable." Qureshi said he would make it "absolutely clear that Pakistan shall defend its territorial sovereignty."
It doesn't help diplomacy either when the US just killed 11 Pakistani soldiers.
American air and artillery strikes killed 11 Pakistani paramilitary soldiers during a clash with insurgents on the Afghan border on Tuesday night, a development that raised concerns about the already strained American relationship with Pakistan.
Just another day in the life of the almost defunct---Conservative movement. They wanted to attack Iraq; told us it would be a cakewalk and then told us Afghanistan was going to be easy too. Britain just committed more troops to Afghanistan today.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said earlier that Britain would send more troops to boost the strength of its forces to the "highest level".
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Wouldn't we?
Meanwhile, Bush and Cheney are threating the one stable nation in the region, Iran.
I read a candidate for becoming a policeman was refused for having to high an I.Q. That is so Team America.
too-high.
Great policy George, Dick and Condi! You certainly made a mess of the Middle East! What next? A group of Taliban busting out of jail in Afghanistan? Oh, right.
How much are we still paying Pakistan? And how's that hunt for BinLaden coming along.
Here we go. Hang on to your cowboy hats, the ride is gonna get bumpy now.
Much of Pakistan is a Taleban/al Qaeda playground, the military and the government are run by crooks and liars, which is probably why Bush/Cheney got along so well with Musharraf.
P.D. @ 5:
Well, yes they screwed up the Middle East and (in this case) Asia.
WOW! winning the hearts and minds of pretty much everyone in the mideast arent we? I cant wait untill a local hospital is attacked because it was thought insurgerts were inside. Knowing the USA nato leader, he probably didint read the memo right where it Surgeons!
Attila the Appeaser, Bilderberg Despot @ 2:
Can't agree with you there. The only thing stopping an internal revolution in Iran is the external threat.
The domino effect of spreading democracy at work.
abarts @ 6:
Bush said over the weekend that Bin Laden is scheduled to be caught in January. Bush has a busy itinerary. H e races from vacation to vacation faster than anyone i know. He is unable to squeeze it in until then.
Whoever wins the election,(Hopefully Obama)What a mess to clean up! Christ, the Middle East, Gas prices, health-care, repairing the Constitution and DOJ. Housing crisis, Global Warming, the disparity of the middle class and rich. Jesus, I'm getting a headache thinking about it!
I do not want to sound like a nit picker but i think it is important for people on the ledft to be well informed. Afghanistan and Pakistan are both in Asia, not in the Middle East.
We may be seeing a pattern here:
Cheney told Maliki to crackdown on Sadr in Basra and US troops had to rescue Iraq army/police, with Iran forging the ceasefire
Bush Adm told Lebanon to crack down on Hasbola and Hasbola shut down Beruit
Now, Afghans to go after Tali's in Pak ... watch Afghans get their rear ends handed to them
xoites defends Constitution @ 15:
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True you are, however didint the US goverment always have a problem with asian goverments?
Maybe outside of the border of Pakistan, they should put up one of the most bizarre road signs I've ever seen. It is about 20 miles north of Phoenix: Correctional Facilitiy Ahead-Do Not pick Up Hitchhikers.
This certainly is something of a pickle. George wants to find Bin Laden before he leaves office. This will certainly entail throwing Musharaf under the tank since they've he's been carefully avoiding conflict in the tribal areas by looking the other way. Pakistan does have nuclear weapons and while they're not likely to use them they may be apt to lose them.
Friar Tuck @ 17:
I think you are refering to, "You can't win a land war in Asia." So far that seems to be quite true.
Off Topic. Gore is about to endorse Obama. On MSNBC.
An Average Joe @ 18:
I just moved out west last year. Those signs are wherever they have a prison out here. It took me by surprise the first time i saw one too.
How does a prison break qualify for martyrdom?
All bets on the table where suddenly Cnn flashes just before the elections that bin laden has been found and taking into US custody. Course it could be a body double for all we know. Anything for MCcain to get his sweaty little paws inside the whitehouse.
This game of let em kill till we need votes is not only sick its a game where the innocent are being the prime target.
So very glad i left the US back in 2000. Its not the place i remember growing up in, its more a nazi germany taken hold.
Saddly Hitler wasint even german he was Austrian. Like Bush, hes not from texas but from the northeast, yet acts like some cowboy on ectascy.
history repeating itself?
karzai is going to invade pakistan as soon as he's done beating up mike tyson.
Its all so insane. try to make heads or tails of it can become quite the job. We the ppl know whats right and therefore should step up to the plate and let the elected leaders know this. Protest folks!!!
with that iam out,, for now. Take care and danke C&L for a wicked blog where you can speak your mind without becoming the enemey !
Regards,,
P.D. @ 14:
Its all part of the GOP plan.. to try and fuck up things as bad as possible now so they can start to blame the Dems when Obama takes office. Ive seen it before. Impatient Americans ,waiting for a fix .will tire of the pain it may require to get US back on track and think the Resumlicans are a good alternative again. Last 8 years have shown them unfit to govern a fucking pay toilet let alone a country.
Gore is endorsing Obama! What a speech!
Col Kilgore, Touche! You are absolutely right! Man those Repugs! They will do anything to hold on to power, even destroying the country. Now they have pretty much sucked the life out of the Religious faithful, it is time for Plan B. Whatever happens in 2009, it will all be the left-wing liberal sinners fault.
So Obama has stated he would bomb Pakistan if we had a clear shot at Osama. He wants to add 90,000 more troops to the military. he's capitulated to The Cuban and Israel lobbies. Sounds to me like more of the same imperial march. Yes, we are fucked.
xoites defends Constitution @ 22:
It reminds me of : Don't put your hand on a hot stove. Or don't play in traffic.
Geez...
Friar Tuck @ 24:
Ouch. that had the sting of truth on it, even if only a little bit. I'm not out to label America a Nazi Regime, but its hard not to notice at least a few operative similarities these days. But luckily, that's why we have a term limit or presidents. Only 8 years of f*ckery at a time.
...except in time of war, where the President can declare a state of emergency/martial law and stay in office until the war is ended. 'm just glad that so far they haven't had any reason to try this. I'm gonna seriously cry if there is another terrrrrist attack right before the elections... I could see us capturing Bin Laden, then being attacked again and the NeoCons breathe fresh life into their dead war-horse. Please let it be wrong, please let it be wrong.
I don't think Dubya wants to spend any more time in office. Cheney, on the other hand....
Oboy @ 16:
The numbers and circumstances are interesting.
30M people in Afghanistan which is going through a vicious civil war with multiple outside players interfering,
its surprising how many NATO member countries armies are there butchering the locals in a neocolonial way.
200M in Pakistan which is fractured and ripe for toppling, also with various outside players interfering,
US army forces have been operating in Pakistan since at least 2000 maybe,
do some googling and see small references to US troops inside Pakistan assisting local forces.
oh great... cowboy diplomacy from not-the-cowboys.
xoites defends Constitution @ 13:
Needs to take a shovel then.
Remember Benazir Bhutto the assassinated (dec 07) ex prime minister of Pakistan,
she did an interview (nov 07) with Sir David Frost and said an interesting tidbit.
23 anon Says: How does a prison break qualify for martyrdom?
The same way being a POW qualifies you to be a war hero.
somehow, those two countries plus iraq seem to be great jump-off points for attacking Iran. Sort of like an oil sandwich.
What? They escaped to Pakistan? Can't be, Pakistan wouldn't do that, they're in the coalition of the willing aren't they?
Oh wait, that's right, the ends of the earth are at the Pakistan border.
Sorry, I have no respect for this administration for NOT going into Pakistan LOOONNNGGG before this. If there was a problem with Pakistan, well, those people would just have to understand; if there's going to be resistance, there's going to be a fight! That the chimp in Washington didn't galvanize the Russians, Iranians, the Pakistanis and just about everyone else to go into Pakistan to get these guys was just foolishness and stupidity. Getting OBL WAS the one thing on the minds of every American and most of the rest of the world. He's going to do it NOW? Hey, now that gas is $4/gal, oil is $130+/barrel, everyone hates us, the Taliban has re-surged, the surge in Iraq has failed or is still failing and we're no more safer than we were seven years ago, of course, let's get back on track!
George Bush, major chimp, failed presidency, dope!
more food for thought:
LONDON (Reuters) - Britain will increase its force in Afghanistan by 230, taking the total number of British troops there to more than 8,000, Defence Secretary Des Browne told parliament on Monday. Full Article
Amazing video from the Guardian UK.
Winning Hearts and Minds in Afghanistan?
Ha!
Afghanistan: Lost in translation
Bear in mind that the British drew the Afghan-Pakistan border to split the Pashtun tribe - 15% in Afghanistan, 85% in Pakistan, and now the Americans & NATO are expecting "national" loyalties to trump the tribal. Fat chance.
Playing one puppet government against another. Cha CHING! Raytheon thanks us all.
jac @ 39:
Trust me. Even Bush/Cheney were smart enough to know not to go into Pakistan. We have a very tenuous relationship with them. They could nuke New Delhi tommorrow if they wanted to. Or Kabul for that matter.
MountainMan23 @ 41:
Well, the neocons don't think we need translators anyway.
this is all going so well.
Che's Lounge @ 42:
yes, Deal of the Century
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said earlier that Britain would send more troops to boost the strength of its forces to the “highest level”.
At least someone in the world has their priorities straight.
Che's Lounge @ 43:
Good point. They are the real problem in the region and unfortunately because some jackass gave them nukes, not much can be done about it.
Their intelligence agency, the ISI, created the Taliban and continue to fund them today with your tax dollars. The ISI is also responsible for murdering Bhutto...both father and daughter. And of course, they also sent thugs into Kashmir to murder innocent Indians and set off a few car bombs in Dehli and Bombay.
And we helped create this monster in the name of fighting communism.
Che's Lounge @ 42:
Curses! You stole my line!
Oboy @ 16:
I find it ironic that Karzai is thinking about sending troops to Pakistan when he can't even walk around Kabul without someone trying to kill him.
Whatever happened to 'protect the home front'?
wait am I missing something, John McCain wants to bomb Iran who do not have a nuke, so are we going to war with Pakistan who do have nuke and willing to use it against Afghanistan where we have thousands of troops,what the hell is going on.
SO...Pakistan demands its borders be respected and will defend them to the end..blah, blah, blah.
yet, Pakistan can't seem to find the troops or incentive to hunt and expel al-Qaeda operatives operating from its frontiers. Hmm, sounds like a lot of chest thumping to me.
I suppose if Pakistan really cared about eliminating al-Qaeda, then they would be mounting major initivites in the frontier lands and border areas, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Anyone recall the relationship between the ISI (Pakistan's secret service) and the Taliban? They were in cahoots like brothers-in-arms.
Pakistan's ISI in cahoots with the Taliban , lol hell the Taliban was invited to HOUSTON , TEXAS by UNOCAL in the late 90's to discuss an OIL pipeline and they even trained Taliban representatives in oil production and remember Former director of CIA's daughter representing the Taliban , to clean up their image, ( brutal treatment of women and the blowing up of religious statutes ).
The Taliban were great business partners when they played ball with American business interests , until the demanded the oil pipeline to be open passing through their country, so they could get a percentage of oil . Which was refused and a short time later , 9/11 happened and the pipeline deal was made several weeks after Karzai was placed into office by the CIA .
Now CBS news offers up another smear on Pakistans' A Q Kahn " father of nuclear weapons program " Even though it was discovered years ago and MORE suspiciously he was some how able to get away with "selling secrets to IRAN " even though being monitored by the ISI , CIA and MOSSAAD , for years prior . The chances that the most famous Nuclear scientist being able to sell nuclear weapons technology to " rouge nations " without nobody knowing is absurd .
Either the ISI , CIA , and Mossad dropped all their monitoring of him or they ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN , to manufacture an attack on IRAN , to over throw their government . In addition CBS " news" claimed some war lord on the run and being hunted by U.S. military , claimed he was receiving funding and arms by ...drum roll .... I R A N .
See some BS blowing in the wind here , bcs WHY would even a War Lord make a public statement indicating who was aiding him , who was arming him , knowing full well Iran has a target on them by the Bush Regime . These people are not that stupid , as claimed by the PRAVDA news channels in the U.S.
On a side note when will BRIAN WILLIAMS ask the Pentagon , are you in Afghanistan to protect the building of the OIL PIPELINE running N to S. from the CASPIAN . No, the coward who's in cahoots with U.S. foreign policy , will never, never bring it up .
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