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Limbaugh: I want to know. I look at Iowa, I look at Illinois---I want to see the murders. I want to see the looting. I want to see all the stuff that happened in New Orleans. I see devastation in Iowa and Illinois that dwarfs what happened in New Orleans. I see people working together. I see people trying to save their property...I don't see a bunch of people running around waving guns at helicopters, I don't see a bunch of people running shooting cops. I don't see a bunch of people raping people on the street. I don't see a bunch of people doing everything they can...whining and moaning---where's FEMA, where's BUSH. I see the heartland of America. When I look at Iowa and when I look at Illinois, I see the backbone of America.

Thanks to a C&Ler that emailed me much of this post. Limbaugh is an arrogant ideologue that loves Howard Kurtz and hates the black victims of NOLA. Don't you understand, it was all their fault for not escaping Hurricane Katrina! Wake, up! You drive by media fools. They were lazy, lazy people that deserved their fate. If only they were white and responsible. Just listen to this horrific rant as Limbaugh is all 'agush' with admiration over the way in which Iowa and the Midwest has responded to the flood disaster that befell the area last week. But to just congratulate the residents in their determination and courage in fighting the disaster isn't enough for the AM talk blow hard. Limbaugh could not pass up the opportunity to once again trot out his old, well known disdain for poor blacks in the south who were victims of Hurricane Katrina in 2005. To hear Limbaugh describe it, Iowa is more American, more honorable ... you know ... more white than Louisiana.

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It would seem that the images of floating bodies, and documented stories of elderly New Orleans residents drowning in their attics is cold hard facts surrounding humans that Rush Limbaugh thinks could have benefited by just pulling themselves up by their bootstraps a little more. Nevermind that more than 1700 human beings lost their lives on live television as America watched in horror. You don't hear progressives saying that Iowa is any less devastating because the death toll in those floods was a total of 5. It is still a tragedy. And progressives understand that full well.

But according to Rush the story of Iowa under water isn't a story about humans over coming adversity. It's a story about how much more patriotic the white bread basket is than the lazy south.

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John Amato's picture

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Marc's picture

This man is ill.

dada's picture

The man is a pathetic, racist buffoon. Let's just leave it at that.

Neo-classical secular humanist's picture

Rush only likes one color. White. His pasty, hate-filled body will be the purest white possible when his Saviour comes to take him away.

TimTexas's picture

Not one thing said was inaccurate. And if he is wrong, it isn't being widely reported.

This situation really is being responded to by the citizens 100% better than NOLA.

He's right. That is until he starts tailing off on Al Gore, he loses me at that point.

Erik's picture
Rick Mack's picture

I'm sure he is just being taken out of context. (Barf)

moondancer's picture

The fat junkie is on top of his game. His racist dialog is sophistry. He needs to be locked in a room with Donovan McNabb to explain his views on black inferiority.

marko's picture

urban blacks and rural whites are very different. in this he is correct. i have lived in both places. if a big earthquake hit st. louis, the city i live in, i would have to defend my house or what was left of it like people had to do in new orleans. if a disaster hit farmington missouri, 60 miles south, it would be a totally different story. i wouldn't have to walk around with my tricked out tactical M4 in farmington, i would in st. louis.

it's not racism it's reality.

MacDaKnife's picture

Will someone not rid me of this priest?

TimTexas's picture

marko @ 9:

urban blacks and rural whites are very different. in this he is correct. i have lived in both places. if a big earthquake hit st. louis, the city i live in, i would have to defend my house or what was left of it like people had to do in new orleans. if a disaster hit farmington missouri, 60 miles south, it would be a totally different story. i wouldn't have to walk around with my tricked out tactical M4 in farmington, i would in st. louis.

it's not racism it's reality.

Bingo. Well said.

It is what it is.

dadams's picture

rush has had just too much buffet from the honeypot.

Billy Hussien Pilgrim's picture

He says that the people of New Orleans didn't do anything to help themselves, and then says that they would have done less if a Democrat would have been in office. How can one do less than nothing? If Rush was in a hurricane he would just grab his stash of Oxy and Viagra, charter a plane and be out of there. No rebuilding for Rush. No Applebee's salad bar for David Brooks.

bush's worst fucking nightmare's picture

If that asshat ever crosses my path I will step on his fucking throat and piss in his face

QuakerLady's picture

Dickens' Marley and his heavy chain of links forged in life have nothing on Limbaugh. Can you say karmic debt? Big. Huge.

sharkcellar's picture

If there is a satan, he is a fat, white man, that smokes cigars, and sits in front of microphone high on pharmaceuticals.

marko's picture

bush's worst fucking nightmare @ 14:

If that asshat ever crosses my path I will step on his fucking throat and piss in his face

your an asshole for threatening another human being with violence. fuck you. even if it is rush.

you sound like a redneck republican not a progressive peace loving dem.

dadams's picture

marko @ 9:

urban blacks and rural whites are very different. in this he is correct. i have lived in both places. if a big earthquake hit st. louis, the city i live in, i would have to defend my house or what was left of it like people had to do in new orleans. if a disaster hit farmington missouri, 60 miles south, it would be a totally different story. i wouldn't have to walk around with my tricked out tactical M4 in farmington, i would in st. louis.

it's not racism it's reality.

you are a total racist. if you don't think whites won't kill you
where you stand when there is major destruction and shortages
of food/water/gas then

YOU ARE A FOOL.

SickupandFed's picture

TimTexas @ 11:

marko @ 9:

urban blacks and rural whites are very different. in this he is correct. i have lived in both places. if a big earthquake hit st. louis, the city i live in, i would have to defend my house or what was left of it like people had to do in new orleans. if a disaster hit farmington missouri, 60 miles south, it would be a totally different story. i wouldn't have to walk around with my tricked out tactical M4 in farmington, i would in st. louis.

it's not racism it's reality.

You all are slimy cocksuckers!

None of you lived through Katrina! Gasbags like you wouldn't have survived! You don't know what you would have done! But I hope the opportunity arises that you can find out!

Douche!!!

Bingo. Well said.

It is what it is.

Thinker's picture

Rush Limbaugh is a Flanner O'Connor short story.

hood's picture

marko @ 17:

bush's worst fucking nightmare @ 14:

If that asshat ever crosses my path I will step on his fucking throat and piss in his face

your an asshole for threatening another human being with violence. fuck you. even if it is rush.

you sound like a redneck republican not a progressive peace loving dem.

Rush is not a human being...haven't you read above, he is satan. I wish someone did that to that piece of shit that is Rush.

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dadams @ 18:

marko @ 9:

urban blacks and rural whites are very different. in this he is correct. i have lived in both places. if a big earthquake hit st. louis, the city i live in, i would have to defend my house or what was left of it like people had to do in new orleans. if a disaster hit farmington missouri, 60 miles south, it would be a totally different story. i wouldn't have to walk around with my tricked out tactical M4 in farmington, i would in st. louis.

it's not racism it's reality.

you are a total racist. if you don't think whites won't kill you
where you stand when there is major destruction and shortages
of food/water/gas then

YOU ARE A FOOL.

i am not a fool
i am not a racist
i survived the reagan wars in central america
whites are just as greedy and evil as anyone else but.....
you obviously don't know farm folks

Randy Pants's picture

This jackoff lost his hearing and ability to move his bowels without the assistance of a doctor's enema because he was high on happy pills for like 10 years. Why anyone still listens to him is beyond me

jimt's picture

How can anyone with a brain listen to that shit? I know better than to try, because when I do it makes me want to go out and hurt some of the republican idiots who live near me.

karl's picture

not a good comparison by this over paid hater/propagandist...different cultures,demographics,public services.......i don't see blackwater in iowa

TimTexas's picture

SickupandFed @ 19:

TimTexas @ 11:

marko @ 9:

urban blacks and rural whites are very different. in this he is correct. i have lived in both places. if a big earthquake hit st. louis, the city i live in, i would have to defend my house or what was left of it like people had to do in new orleans. if a disaster hit farmington missouri, 60 miles south, it would be a totally different story. i wouldn't have to walk around with my tricked out tactical M4 in farmington, i would in st. louis.

it's not racism it's reality.

You all are slimy cocksuckers!

None of you lived through Katrina! Gasbags like you wouldn't have survived! You don't know what you would have done! But I hope the opportunity arises that you can find out!

Douche!!!

Bingo. Well said.

It is what it is.

While I'm sorry that I lived in Houston during Katrina and not in New Orleans, it does not excuse the lack of civility in NOLA after the tragedy that apparently exists all across the midwest. Call me whatever you want, but until you show me how what Limbaugh said is wrong, you're just venting to whoever will listen.

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marko @ 22:

dadams @ 18:

marko @ 9:

urban blacks and rural whites are very different. in this he is correct. i have lived in both places. if a big earthquake hit st. louis, the city i live in, i would have to defend my house or what was left of it like people had to do in new orleans. if a disaster hit farmington missouri, 60 miles south, it would be a totally different story. i wouldn't have to walk around with my tricked out tactical M4 in farmington, i would in st. louis.

it's not racism it's reality.

you are a total racist. if you don't think whites won't kill you
where you stand when there is major destruction and shortages
of food/water/gas then

YOU ARE A FOOL.

i am not a fool
i am not a racist
i survived the reagan wars in central america
whites are just as greedy and evil as anyone else but.....
you obviously don't know farm folks

i will give you what you think you are but........
catastrophes and threat of survival changes EVERYONE.

EPeoples's picture

Rush didn't seem to mind black folks that much when was sex-touring the DomRep with a suitcase filled with Viagra. I guess it's all pink on the inside, right Rush, you moral icon?

-ep

kakaya zanuda's picture

What? TimTexas? Not inaccurate? He's right? But... Oh, nevermind, gotta remember that the trolls can feed themselves without any help from me. But, you know, I could certainly find justification for shoving a stick in Rush's spokes, despite my long-held belief in peaceful solutions to the world's problems. And you know, Marko, Rush usually has to pay twelve year-old girls in Guatemala five bucks to step on his throat and piss in his face. Hell, this doesn't even rise to being half as bad as the fraternity pranks he plays on the little Vietnamese boys he keeps in his basement. So, you know, just lighten up a little?

TimTexas's picture

kakaya zanuda @ 29:

I'll go at this each part at a time...

1. What? TimTexas? Not inaccurate? He's right? But... Oh, nevermind, gotta remember that the trolls can feed themselves without any help from me. --- Yeah, I must be a troll because I don't close my eyes and agree with everything I'm told here.

2. But, you know, I could certainly find justification for shoving a stick in Rush's spokes, despite my long-held belief in peaceful solutions to the world's problems. And you know, Marko, Rush usually has to pay twelve year-old girls in Guatemala five bucks to step on his throat and piss in his face. Hell, this doesn't even rise to being half as bad as the fraternity pranks he plays on the little Vietnamese boys he keeps in his basement. --- I think Rush is a HUGE douchebag, but right is right, even if it comes from an asshole. Hell, even Bush is right on HIV relief to Africa.

3. So, you know, just lighten up a little? --- Sure.

Mustard is Evil's picture

The two areas and the respective disasters are not even remotely comparable, on many levels. Rush, nevertheless, wants to pretend they're apples and apples. Typical sweeping generalizations, where politically convenient, to score political points. Big surprise.

That said, sounds like the Oxymoron is back on the Oxy. Doesn't sound like himself.

karl's picture

they want us to hate rush......i would rather ignore this pompous ass.....he is a professional divider of the country
he feeds the responses from the dems/liberals to his audience 'see they're not like you...they think they are better than you'........i'm fxxxxxg sick of it...it's why nothing gets done

Underground Pirate's picture

Limbaugh is a total creep, but he didn't use the words "black" or "white" in this piece.
It could have just as easily been a poor/middle class contrast. Clearly though
one could conjecture that he was talking about race. Frankly he seemed to be
making this a "Democrat"/Republican contrast.

Jack Damage's picture

Ya know, Limbaugh is such a destructive polarizing figure and totally so last week I am truly surprised he still has an audience let alone a radio station that will let him sputter his shit into the public domain... I hate to be all violent but I'm kinda with bush's worst fucking nightmare@ 14 as far as what I'd be inclined to do should I ever run into that fat fuck.... As far as the shit he's putting out there that somehow being white and therefore somehow more deserving or cosmically more lucky has anything to do with the scope of the tragedy in Iowa or the lessor numbers of individuals lost verses the tragedy in New Orleans??..

Jesus, what can a sane person say to that shit.... As far as only five known dead as a direct result of these floods, I am totally grateful for that and wish the survivors all the best in cleaning up and putting their lives back together again... As far as the rest of his sickass pablum? That is all totally bullshit ... I'd say we all had better wait six months or so and see what the mesquitoes have to say about the total mortality involved in this flooding desaster before anyone chimes in on any aspect of it let alone the racist garbage this fatass is trying to infer.....JD

stosselitaphobic's picture

The difference is population density and poverty density. It's easier to evacuate less dense areas that do not rely on bridges for access to an area. Also, the vast majority of people in Iowa do not depend on public transit and have family on dry ground. The speed of the flooding may have also been a factor due to the levees giving way. Of course, Mr. Pill-popping-and-above-identity-politics-except-when-calling-Obama-a-magic-negro-and-pointing-out-white-superiority can't see any of these realities.

TimTexas's picture

Go at what he said bit by bit (until he trails off on Gore)... give me one example of anywhere this has occured:

1. Who has been murdered as a result of the flooding?
2. Where is looting occuring at?
3. Does the affected area/population in the midwest dwarf those affected in NOLA?
4. Has anyone waived a gun at a helicopter?
5. Has there been any reported police shootings?
6. Have there been any rapes associated with the flooding or resultant evacuation?
7. Has any public official complained about FEMA or the President needing to do more?

Tell me if he's wrong, but until then - please - continue to complain about who he is rather than what he said. Maybe there's something to be gained from the comparison of the two tragedys.

bush's worst fucking nightmare's picture

Marko: I am NOT a peace loving dem. I am a gay American citizen who is way beyond tired of seeing black people slandered, gays demonized, and republiKKKans ruin our country. If you read Ghandhi's thoughts on non-violence, you will quickly discover that he did NOT recommend it for all situations. He recommended it for dealing with a civilized adversary. What about the neocons makes you think that they are civilized? Is there some line they have yet to cross to make you believe what they are truly capable of?

If you think I am going to passively sit back and wait for them to put me in a camp to die, you have it all wrong. It is YOUR DUTY as an American citizen, an inheritor of the great experiment in freedom to rise up and save your country. IT IS OUR DUTY. As for me, if they come with violence, I shall not go quietly, they will get sprayed with lead, courtesy of Glock and Ruger. Get a clue. Maybe you haven't been PHYSICALLY attacked by these types as I have, for you would then understand why I hate them with such violence in my heart. Save your nonviolence for those who understand what a fair fight is.

Live Free or Die

LibertyLover's picture

Rush is vile.

I'll bet that Pastor Hagee is looking to see if Iowa has scheduled a gay pride parade or something.

Surely this is their punishment for having the Audacity of Hope to allow a person of color to win the Iowa state Democratic delegates.

karl's picture

karl @ 25:

not a good comparison by this over paid hater/propagandist...different cultures,demographics,public services.......i don't see blackwater in iowa

i don't want to give rush what he wants food for his ego

DMS's picture

"... devastation in Iowa and Illinois that dwarfs what happened in New Orleans."

Remember when Limbaugh got fired from the football commentary job? Well, he got fired for exactly the same sort of ignorant statement. In the football case, he said Donovan McNabb was getting attention because white liberals wanted to see a successful star black QB -- a comment that displayed a stunning lack of knowledge (I guess he never heard of, say, Warren Moon). The present case is worse, for obvious reasons.

Limbaugh should be fired for his appalling racism *and* his appalling incompetence. 'Nuff said.

FaceReality's picture

Let me say first that I in no way agree with Limbaugh. I will say that a certain percentage of people displaced by Katrina came to my city and perhaps the worst of the bunch made our worst of the bunch look like stellar citizens. How do I know this? Because I had an employee at the time that was in touch with the drug dealing thugs that hang out on street corners and he told me that some real bad washout had made it up here to Seattle from New Orleans. So, what it looks like is that Limbaugh has taken this bad part of the Katrina victims and painted all the victims with this same brush. New Orleans was, I believe, the murder capital of the country at the time Katrina hit.

ZappaFrank's picture

He may as well have said, "Fuck New Orleans". These folks have been completely abandoned by the Bush Administration, FEMA and the mainstream media. Of course, if there's little progress made, it's their fault, not the govt. If they need help and say it, they're complaining. That is some cold, heartless shit.

shalagarsamy's picture

Iowa - leaning blue.
Louisiana - leaning red.

Who would have thought that red states are filled with sociopaths, huh Rush?

Why is that specious logic not mouthed by the blowhard, I wonder.

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I wouldn't wish a New Orleans type government failure on anyone but if a similar top to bottem screwup does happen again could Rush,Timtexan, and Marko will be to show us how different white people are in those circumstances?

Juan's picture

The only thing that's missing is his love for Hitler.

He should be fired for this garbage, but he's Teflon Rush.. nothign sticks to him.

Please bite my urban black asset's picture

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

I wouldn't wish a New Orleans type government failure on anyone but if a similar top to bottem screwup does happen again could Rush,Timtexan, and Marko will be there to show us how different white people are in those circumstances?

fixed

TimTexas's picture

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

I wouldn't wish a New Orleans type government failure on anyone but if a similar top to bottem screwup does happen again could Rush,Timtexan, and Marko will be to show us how different white people are in those circumstances?

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

NMDonkey's picture

Once again, Limbaugh relies on myth rather than facts. The stories out of New Orleans about people shooting at helicopters and rapes in the streets were spread by the "lib-ral" media and there are several sites setting the record straight.

http://www.damianpenny.com/archived/004789.html

Why does anyone even listen to this airbag anymore?

helenahandbasket's picture

I suprised no one has yet whooped his white ass. He really is a small-minded racist; (as I pick my chin off of my shoe)

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

Limpballs is one putrid, corpulent, sack of shit. There is no one worse than this guy. I loathe him with a passion. Today I accidentally heard him on the radio when he came on shortly after the CBS hourly news. Shortly after noon CST, he came on, saying something to the effect of "good morning to those of you who might have just gotten out of bed....to those of you who might be on welfare." I rarely, rarely hear the guy, but this is the 2nd time I've heard him make this welfare remark in the past year.

Limbaugh is a god-damned racist; he needs to be taken off the air. I sent an email to the local radio station, KMOX, and copied Limpballs, expressing my disgust at this idiot. Fat chance that will do any good, but I just needed to get something off my chest. God, this guy is one hateful SOB.

Mickxotic's picture

Thank heaven that the KKK is here to help Rush educate me about the evil darkies.....and the RAPES they just wanna git are wimmin an' are cattles...hide yer cattles...

karl's picture

DMS @ 40:

"... devastation in Iowa and Illinois that dwarfs what happened in New Orleans."

Remember when Limbaugh got fired from the football commentary job? Well, he got fired for exactly the same sort of ignorant statement. In the football case, he said Donovan McNabb was getting attention because white liberals wanted to see a successful star black QB -- a comment that displayed a stunning lack of knowledge (I guess he never heard of, say, Warren Moon). The present case is worse, for obvious reasons.

Limbaugh should be fired for his appalling racism *and* his appalling incompetence. 'Nuff said.

good point he won't be fired.. you and i both know he is important with the task of giving out the red meat for the NEOCONS.......otherwise he serves no purpose he hides behind money he is told to donate for his bullshit persona

Sarah's picture

I see the ignorant racist trolls are out to play tonight. You've yet to prove ONE thing Rush has said as being correct, by the way.

As another poster said - city and country. Apple and orange. Two entirely different situations.

Maybe the citizens aren't whining about FEMA because they responded to the flooding right away. How long did the citizens of NOLA have to wait?

JaimeFuffufnik's picture

The only black people that Rush will put up with are the little Dominican boys.

Terrible's picture

I see devastation in Iowa and Illinois that dwarfs what happened in New Orleans

Talk about being seriously messed up on drugs!

#1) As John pointed out he deaths from DROWNING and FLOODING is no where near what it was in New Orleans. #2) The citizens of the towns next to Cedar Rapids aren't shooting over the heads of the people TRYING to flee the flooding and threatening to kill them. #3) The authorities in Iowa aren't rounding the people up and packing them into an overcrowded building without food or water and locking them in.

Limpballs and his defenders are some seriously sick individuals with no morals on conscience. They make me sick! They are the ones that make it "tough to be proud of America"!!! ( to quote Sen. McCain)

Bob's picture

I saw a PBS doc. on Eleanor Roosevelt. What an amazing woman. Here we are 46 years later and there are people like Rush still contaminating the air waves with this vile crap. She broke down barriers and Rush and his ilk are steadfastly building them back up.

breakspear's picture

Rush is a failure of a human being if there ever were one. He has to project his inadequacies, bigotries, and biases onto other people and their sufferings, and in doing so he feeds his overloaded ego and non-thinking listeners. Tim Russert shouldn't have been the headline of a news person having died suddenly, Rush should've been the wretch that met his demise...and the news wouldn't be talking about him. not in a good way like Tim. he is a waste.

Sarah's picture

TimTexas @ 47:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

I wouldn't wish a New Orleans type government failure on anyone but if a similar top to bottem screwup does happen again could Rush,Timtexan, and Marko will be to show us how different white people are in those circumstances?

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

You've yet to back up your "reality" with facts. I'm waiting.....

TimTexas's picture

Sarah @ 53:

I see the ignorant racist trolls are out to play tonight. You've yet to prove ONE thing Rush has said as being correct, by the way.

As another poster said - city and country. Apple and orange. Two entirely different situations.

Maybe the citizens aren't whining about FEMA because they responded to the flooding right away. How long did the citizens of NOLA have to wait?

You're right, man. I'm sorry. Apples and Oranges. As long as you live in an urban area and the government is slow to respond to a tragedy it is A... O... K to Loot, Rape, and Murder.

karl's picture

TimTexas @ 59:

Sarah @ 53:

I see the ignorant racist trolls are out to play tonight. You've yet to prove ONE thing Rush has said as being correct, by the way.

As another poster said - city and country. Apple and orange. Two entirely different situations.

Maybe the citizens aren't whining about FEMA because they responded to the flooding right away. How long did the citizens of NOLA have to wait?

You're right, man. I'm sorry. Apples and Oranges. As long as you live in an urban area and the government is slow to respond to a tragedy it is A... O... K to Loot, Rape, and Murder.

blackwater in ........local police force goes awol

TimTexas's picture

Sarah @ 58:

TimTexas @ 47:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

I wouldn't wish a New Orleans type government failure on anyone but if a similar top to bottem screwup does happen again could Rush,Timtexan, and Marko will be to show us how different white people are in those circumstances?

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

You've yet to back up your "reality" with facts. I'm waiting.....

Really... where has the looting, raping and murdering occured as a result of the flooding in the midwest. I can't show you something that isn't reported. The lack of any stories about it, at least for now, show he is right.

Please bite my urban black asset's picture

TimTexas @ 47:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

I wouldn't wish a New Orleans type government failure on anyone but if a similar top to bottem screwup does happen again could Rush,Timtexan, and Marko will be to show us how different white people are in those circumstances?

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

Right its society that needs developmental work. Not you, Right. And I guess those people I lived next too in NYC who helped out during the past few blackouts and other natural or man-made disasters all came from a white rural background.

joel hanes's picture

TimTexas and marko :

My family lives in Iowa, near one of the early towns to flood.

I see several important differences between Katrina and Iowa,
other than the urban-black / white-farmer cultural differences
to which you guys seem to be attributing the bad outcome in Katrina

1. In Iowa, no sizeable city had anywhere near as much of its area flooded as did New Orleans.
In Cedar Rapids, the worst hit, less than a quarter of the residents had to evacuate.
Many of those people could stay with friends relatively nearby.
In New Orleans, an entire major city had to be evacuated:
far more people on the move, far fewer places for them to go.

2. In Iowa, people seeking to evacuate were not met on the highway bridges
by armed civilians and cops that refused to let them pass to safety.
In New Orleans, armed racists prevented evacuation to an adjoining parish.

3. In Iowa, the government had learned from the earlier hundred-year floods,
and competently-prepared emergency plans were followed.
The government of Louisiana has been notable for lo these many years
both for its corruption and for its incompetence, and its reaction to the
looming threat of Katrina was both corrupt and incompetent.

kakaya zanuda's picture

Whoa there, Silver. Points one through seven, TimTexas, are moot when you consider that NOLA had a heap of time to disintegrate before people got the help that is actually being freely allowed into Iowa. Guns waved at helicopters? A myth widely debunked. Looting? Or food gathering? What, someone stole a tee vee? Get out! I'm telling you, there's no comparison. No one blew the levees in Iowa. No one has been left to rot in the sun because of a disgusting lack of guardsmen. I guess there's nothing I can say to convince you that sending soldiers of fortune to guard the residents of the lower 9th, lest they leave for lighter soil, ranked high on the list of the worst crimes of the Bush era. But thanks for playing.

Bitter Bud Hussein's picture

Rush, you ignorant slut...

Hannah's picture

Someday there will be a bonanza of psychological evaluaton on this sociopath. It will stretch into the stratosphere. McCarthy has nothing on this nutcase.

It's just that this nutcase gets more money than God to spew.

I wonder how many people are aware of his status as THE radio man for the armed forces.

The only thing worse than Rush are the complete and utter morons that listen to this fool.

Michael's picture

Where was the raping and murdering in New Orleans?

Myth-Making in New Orleans
http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3998

"The impressive media coverage of Hurricane Katrina was marred by the widespread reporting—sometimes attributed to public officials—of murders and rapes that apparently never took place. What can news outlets learn from this episode to prevent similar problems in the future?"

TimTexas's picture

Please bite my urban black asset @ 62:

TimTexas @ 47:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

I wouldn't wish a New Orleans type government failure on anyone but if a similar top to bottem screwup does happen again could Rush,Timtexan, and Marko will be to show us how different white people are in those circumstances?

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

Right its society that needs developmental work. Not you, Right. And I guess those people I lived next too in NYC who helped out during the past few blackouts and other natural or man-made disasters all came from a white rural background.

I'm not saying that what happened in NOLA is the way that all black areas will react or have reacted to a crisis. It happened there, and it should not be excused or ignored. The people acted like animals, there's no way around that - and something needs to be done to ensure that the same lack of civility doesn't occur the next time a disaster hits that city and that it is reacted to in the same grown-up, civilized, and human way that midwesterners have shown in their reaction to their crisis.

Hannah's picture

I wonder what kind of affect he has on our military. It must be positively immense.

stosselitaphobic's picture

TimTexas @ 36:

Go at what he said bit by bit (until he trails off on Gore)... give me one example of anywhere this has occured:

1. Who has been murdered as a result of the flooding?
2. Where is looting occuring at?
3. Does the affected area/population in the midwest dwarf those affected in NOLA?
4. Has anyone waived a gun at a helicopter?
5. Has there been any reported police shootings?
6. Have there been any rapes associated with the flooding or resultant evacuation?
7. Has any public official complained about FEMA or the President needing to do more?

Tell me if he's wrong, but until then - please - continue to complain about who he is rather than what he said. Maybe there's something to be gained from the comparison of the two tragedys.

The difference is population density and poverty density. It’s easier to evacuate less dense areas that do not rely on bridges for access to an area. Also, the vast majority of people in Iowa do not depend on public transit and have family on dry ground. The speed of the flooding may have also been a factor due to the levees giving way. Of course, Mr. Pill-popping-and-above-identity-politics-except-when-calling-Obama-a-magic-negro-and-pointing-out-white-superiority can’t see any of these realities.

There is also a difference between having people isolated in a Thunderdome like situation with scarce resources and having a flood in a low density area where the authorities are still present.

Polychrome's picture

Could you please do us all a favor and kindly descend into your closet,tornado basement or some quiet ,safe and secure place where you can have a nice play room in which to entertain yourself for the rest of your days with enough toys to enact all your misconstrued ideas of Americana?

I have NEVER had an single ounce of patience for you and your bizarre misconstrued notions of politics or morality.

It may not be terribly credible, but my ancestors came here on the Mayflower and other vessels from the Mother Land and I can attest with no contest that in my knowledge of my family tree did any of them subscribe to or entertain any of the notions which you seem to deem patriotic in any way shape or form.

My ancestors ,which I have a very stringent drawn out history of which I know is rare, never seperated themselves so vastly from other human beings,regardless of race or religion.

They never had a lot of money either.

They came to this land to find a new life ,and used their intellectual resources to connect with the mainlanders and extend their abilities to read and write to others and to be resourceful.

Maybe they fell into the Yankee catagory, and some were jailed for being well read and upstanding in regard to human rights,what a crime!

You and your ilk are the antithesis of any kind of progress!

It is your very ilk which have enslaved your own people from growth and humanity.

You are the kind of people that my great grandparents warned myself and my parents generation about.

You are the hinderance of progress and consciousness,

You are the product of a self hating machine which projects it's own failures upon others who are weak and afraid.

Please just dissapear into a basement somewhere.

You are no true Christian and are absolutely no voice of reason.

You are a self echoing ice pick through the heads of vulnerable and desperate people and you need to shut your big fat mouth!

Do your fellow Americans a service kindly fade away!

On behalf of my ancestors who were believers in humanity ,just shut the hell up and go away!

Please bite my urban black asset's picture

http://www.reason.com/news/show/36327.html

I haven't found anything about the other crimes people are talking about the helicopter story is bullshit

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kakaya zanuda @ 64:

Whoa there, Silver. Points one through seven, TimTexas, are moot when you consider that NOLA had a heap of time to disintegrate before people got the help that is actually being freely allowed into Iowa. Guns waved at helicopters? A myth widely debunked. Looting? Or food gathering? What, someone stole a tee vee? Get out! I'm telling you, there's no comparison. No one blew the levees in Iowa. No one has been left to rot in the sun because of a disgusting lack of guardsmen. I guess there's nothing I can say to convince you that sending soldiers of fortune to guard the residents of the lower 9th, lest they leave for lighter soil, ranked high on the list of the worst crimes of the Bush era. But thanks for playing.

You think it's justifiable to act the way they did, and I don't. We'll get over it I'm sure.

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It ain't justifiable because they did not act the way you have been led to believe. And also, TimTexas, now that we have explained to you exactly how Rush is wrong, please do tell us what "to be gained from the comparison of the two tragedys." So far as I can tell, you're either looking for a way to vilify city folk, preferring a more pastoral existence, or you hate blacks. Which is it?

ZappaFrank's picture

One of the problems is how assholes like Rush and other talking heads in MSM compare natural disasters like they're comparing brands of underwear. I live in San Diego and the media compared the wildfires to New Orleans. They made it a point to illustrate how San Diegans pulled together in the face of tragedy while the citizens of New Orleans descended into chaos. The disasters are different, the circumstances are different. How can they compare the two? More importantly, why do they compare the two?

San Diegans also didn't have to wait long for federal help to arrive. Bushy even showed up within hours.

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Neo-classical secular humanist @ 4:

Rush only likes one color. White. His pasty, hate-filled body will be the purest white possible when his Saviour comes to take him away.

Not quite true, he was arrested coming back through US customs with illegal Viagra in his possession from the Dominican Republic.

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What does anyone expect from this. What needs to happen is to capitalize on this as a referendum against the right-wing racist mentality that permeates much of the right. This should be an ad on national tv. This should be a major talking point for the Obama campaign, this should be thrown right back in the faced of the right wing puppet pundits.
We need to turn the hate they spew into votes!

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kakaya zanuda @ 74:

It ain't justifiable because they did not act the way you have been led to believe. And also, TimTexas, now that we have explained to you exactly how Rush is wrong, please do tell us what "to be gained from the comparison of the two tragedys." So far as I can tell, you're either looking for a way to vilify city folk, preferring a more pastoral existence, or you hate blacks. Which is it?

I guess all of those gunshot wounds, looted electronics stores, and raped women are all part of those crazy things I've been "led to believe." Explain that to some of the evacuees that came to my city.

You mean I get to either pick that I vilify city folk (I live in Houston) or I hate blacks (I am one)????? Cool. I guess I'll go with both... grow up. Let's talk like adults sometime.

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TimTexas @ 69:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 62:

TimTexas @ 47:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

Right its society that needs developmental work. Not you, Right. And I guess those people I lived next too in NYC who helped out during the past few blackouts and other natural or man-made disasters all came from a white rural background.

I'm not saying that what happened in NOLA is the way that all black areas will react or have reacted to a crisis. It happened there, and it should not be excused or ignored. The people acted like animals, there's no way around that - and something needs to be done to ensure that the same lack of civility doesn't occur the next time a disaster hits that city and that it is reacted to in the same grown-up, civilized, and human way that midwesterners have shown in their reaction to their crisis.

i'll say it again you can think/want to ask for idealism of what these people should have done that's an easy statement to make. it happened for many reasons(their behavior) and next to none of those reasons occurred in iowa.........this was above and beyond what certain infrastructure/services could handle .....local police force were going awol they brought highly paid private industry Blackwater into NO area

Terrible's picture

marko says "you obviously don’t know farm folks" Well let me tell you something marko. You can't get anymore "farm folks" then me and the only difference there would have been had it been folks like me in New Orleans in the wake of Katrina is that blackwater and those scum in Gretna would have most likely been killed. The people of New Orleans behaved much more civilized under the circumstances then good old white farm boys like me would have. What you're refering to is the fact that we "farm folks"(who I doubt you know very well yourself!) believe in neighbor helping neighbor. The scum of Gretna and the scum of blackwater and the NOLA police sure as hell didn't believe in that and were the ones who created the chaos and social unrest that happened in the wake of Katrina. To try to pin the blame of that on the "urban blacks" of New Orleans is so ignorant it's thoroughly disgusting!!! No wonder John McCain has "a tough time being proud of America" sometimes!

Bananaphone's picture

TimTexas: Please consider the following information before continuing your discussion.

Dollars of damage- Katrina: 81.2 billion dollars. Iowa flood- Currently 2.1 billion dollars
Death toll- Katrina: 1836 (705 additional still listed as "missing"). Iowa flood- Currently 5
Affected area- Katrina: approx. 90,000 square miles. Iowa- no data found yet, though Iowa's total area is 56,276 square miles.

Additionally, the victims of the Iowa flood are currently being evacuated. Many of the residents in New Orleans attempted to evacuate on foot when they could not be evacuated any other way. Most of them were turned back at gunpoint by residents and local law enforcement in neighboring communities.

Rush is flat out wrong about this flood dwarfing Katrina, as he has been wrong about so many other things. Please consider that you are too.

StirFry's picture

Point by point, he just called black people a bunch of animals.

TimTexas: "All I’m saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society."

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMFG. Yeah, right. Rush, the guy who once told a black caller to "get that bone out of your nose and call me back" is not that insightful. But I'm sure you have a good excuse for that one, too.

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Billy Hussien Pilgrim @ 13:

He says that the people of New Orleans didn't do anything to help themselves,

thats not true, people went to the designated rescue center the sports dome on high ground and looked after their nieghbours,
theres a multitude of heroic stories from New Orleans, but they are of no interest to the generally racist MSM, which panders to its non thinking white suburban and rural white audience.

Can O' Whoopass's picture

"New Orleans aren't Americans because they voted for Democrats."
That's the sad thing about republicans.
They are clearly Stalinists.

tyree's picture

its been said rush limpballs is forced to take one week off a year to clean the lint from his belly button in his bath tub, aftwards a plumber is called to unclog the pipes in the bath tub drain!

Please bite my urban black asset's picture

And you know what the saddest part about this is? I am not really all that upset by this stupidity. Why? Because I am used to it, far too used to it. A ton of offensive nonsense doesn't even register with me anymore.

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I think Limbaugh is missing the bigger picture here. American people of all ethnic backgrounds have learned a lot since hurricane Katrina. We have seen how differently people respond now to a crisis. We saw it with the wildfires in California, the tornadoes in Indiana and now with the flooding in Iowa. This is not a "black vs. white" issue.  People of all ethnic backgrounds pretty much view the Bush Administration and FEMA as incompetent.  They have realized that the Bush Administration is worthless and there is no point in relying on them for anything so it is better to take matters in your own hands when a disaster strikes.

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TimTexas @ 78:

kakaya zanuda @ 74:

It ain't justifiable because they did not act the way you have been led to believe. And also, TimTexas, now that we have explained to you exactly how Rush is wrong, please do tell us what "to be gained from the comparison of the two tragedys." So far as I can tell, you're either looking for a way to vilify city folk, preferring a more pastoral existence, or you hate blacks. Which is it?

I guess all of those gunshot wounds, looted electronics stores, and raped women are all part of those crazy things I've been "led to believe." Explain that to some of the evacuees that came to my city.

You mean I get to either pick that I vilify city folk (I live in Houston) or I hate blacks (I am one)????? Cool. I guess I'll go with both... grow up. Let's talk like adults sometime.

Do you purposely ignore the substantive reasons offered or does the cognitive dissonance disallow them from even being processed?

The difference is population density and poverty density. It’s easier to evacuate less dense areas that do not rely on bridges for access to an area. Also, the vast majority of people in Iowa do not depend on public transit and have family on dry ground. The speed of the flooding may have also been a factor due to the levees giving way. Of course, Mr. Pill-popping-and-above-identity-politics-except-when-calling-Obama-a-magic-negro-and-pointing-out-white-superiority can’t see any of these realities.

There is also a difference between having people isolated in a Thunderdome like situation with scarce resources and having a flood in a low density area where the authorities are still present.

dmhlt's picture

Dear Lord:

If you had to call a media "personality" home this past week, why - oh, WHY - could it have not been Limbaugh?!

It's virtually assured that the Ninth Circle of Hell still has openings (where else would Limbaugh even hope to spend his well-deserved eternity?). And if, per chance, it's full ... well, then I say let him in as a most certain LEGAL immigrant!

well, at least he's no longer with espn.

I really can't say enough how much I hate that slime.

Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo's picture

This is the kind of asshole that the right (McAsshole, Cheney and the rest of em) go to. This is the kind of asshole they go to to give interviews. We, as Amerkins, do not act like this. Republicans act like this. This is their MO. This is what they feel about people who are not able to achieve what they have because of societal prejudices or location or the education that the Republicans let them have of just being ground under the boots of these disgusting, horrible "people". Then they put them down as if it is their fault when in reality the "haves" did this to them. The Republican party have done this to the poorest of the poor. Then they laugh at them.
I sure hope I have made myself clear and have not said anything in a way that give a wrong impression.

Terrible's picture

TimTexas, it's damn well known that the "lack of civility" in the New Orleans disaster was on the part white rascists who wouldn't allow the residents to get out of the city and forced them into an inadaquate unprepared location!

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TimTexas @ 61:

Sarah @ 58:

TimTexas @ 47:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

You've yet to back up your "reality" with facts. I'm waiting.....

Really... where has the looting, raping and murdering occured as a result of the flooding in the midwest. I can't show you something that isn't reported. The lack of any stories about it, at least for now, show he is right.

I call bullshit. The stories of looting, raping and murdering in NOLA were largely fictionalized. Most of the fine people of that city behaved heroically and admirably in the face of one of the worst natural disasters this country had ever seen. But because they were largely poor and black, many in America could only think that they would behave like savages. Popular Mechanics debunked the "rape, murder, loot" myths here:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html?page=7

See also American Journalism Review:

http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3998

See also Reason Magazine:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/34103.html

Unfortunately, the attribution of "savagery" to poor, racial minority groups during times of disaster is nothing new. False stories about "savage" blacks raping and looting were also prevalent in the aftermath of the great Mississippi flood of 1927. "Blaming the victim" racism is apparently still one of our favorite past-times. Right, Tim?

Bananaphone's picture

dmhlt @ 89:

Dear Lord:

If you had to call a media "personality" home this past week, why - oh, WHY - could it have not been Limbaugh?!

What, you think Jesus wants to have him hanging around? Heaven doesn't want him and hell thinks he's doing a heckuva job.

karl's picture

we even provided those carcinogenic FEMA trailers what are these liberals complaining about.......they had little intention in helping these people.....why because people can help themselves that is their philosophy......they want to say liberals want to help all people Wrong we want to help people who can't help themselves....

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Anyone know the sound of Rush Limbaugh getting hit by a bus??

DEWSH!

TimTexas @ 78:

kakaya zanuda @ 74:

It ain't justifiable because they did not act the way you have been led to believe. And also, TimTexas, now that we have explained to you exactly how Rush is wrong, please do tell us what "to be gained from the comparison of the two tragedys." So far as I can tell, you're either looking for a way to vilify city folk, preferring a more pastoral existence, or you hate blacks. Which is it?

I guess all of those gunshot wounds, looted electronics stores, and raped women are all part of those crazy things I've been "led to believe." Explain that to some of the evacuees that came to my city.

You mean I get to either pick that I vilify city folk (I live in Houston) or I hate blacks (I am one)????? Cool. I guess I'll go with both... grow up. Let's talk like adults sometime.

all the shit you mentioned never happened. whatever the fuck color you're supposed to be doesn't matter. your ignorance does matter.

you are a lying sack of shit.

people were involved in trying to save lives. people broke into stores for food and supplies.

you are obviously a fox viewer and rash limpdiKKK listener, i.e., a liar and a racist.

kakaya zanuda's picture

Tim Texas, talking like adults is something I would only grant you if the facts as related by my New Orleans friends and as reported by reliable (non-MSM) sources didn't contradict so precisely the claims of the evacuees you have encountered. Perhaps you are referring to a different New Orleans? Another Katrina? No, really, you have absolutely no credibility.

TimTexas @ 61:

Sarah @ 58:

TimTexas @ 47:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

You've yet to back up your "reality" with facts. I'm waiting.....

Really... where has the looting, raping and murdering occured as a result of the flooding in the midwest Louisiana. I can't show you something that isn't reported. The lack of any stories about it, at least for now, show he is right.

Stop viewing Fux. your bigotry is showing, asshole.

shalagarsamy @ 43:

Iowa - leaning blue.
Louisiana - leaning red.

Who would have thought that red states are filled with sociopaths, huh Rush?

Why is that specious logic not mouthed by the blowhard, I wonder.

I called my friend after Katrina to see how him and his family were doing after Katrina.

He said that "they were fine, but the n***ers had overrun Baton Rouge."

Needless to say, we haven't talked since.

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 83:

Billy Hussien Pilgrim @ 13:

He says that the people of New Orleans didn't do anything to help themselves,

thats not true, people went to the designated rescue center the sports dome on high ground and looked after their nieghbours,
theres a multitude of heroic stories from New Orleans, but they are of no interest to the generally racist MSM, which panders to its non thinking white suburban and rural white audience.

I respectfully disagree, the media simply uses racist talking points started by the repug operatives in the editorial offices. racism has been one of their tools since the emancipation proclamation.

Attila the Appeaser, Trollop Despot's picture

One thing is certain. That fat bastard won't lift a finger to actually help anyone anywhere.

TimV's picture

Are you really that surprised to hear racist comments from the fat bloviating heifer who brought us the song "Barak the Magic Negro?"

And for the record for all the Right Wing trolls defending Limblow, the Iowa communities hit are:

a) Far less densely populated than NOLA,
b) Had a greater variety of escape routes to reduce congestion,
c) Higher average income adjusted for cost of living,
d) Had a swifter FEMA response.

and ...

d) STILL HAD ROBBING AND LOOTING (but because there were fewer people doing ... see above... it gets less coverage).

Now, for those of us who know people affected by these floods and this tragedy it is still a tragedy. But then again... we're not the one comparing national disasters. Limpbaugh is... we're just stating reality.

Bitter Bud Hussein's picture

Gee, Tim and Marko sure quieted down...

karl's picture

Attila the Appeaser, Trollop Despot @ 102:

One thing is certain. That fat bastard won't lift a finger to actually help anyone anywhere.

that wouldn't be very patriotic

TimV's picture

Attila the Appeaser, Trollop Despot @ 102:

One thing is certain. That fat bastard won't lift a finger to actually help anyone anywhere.

That's right, but he cries like a schoolgirl with a skinned knee when his computers don't work and begs Apple to help him. Hypocrite anyone?

Paul Alexander: How Karl Rove Played Politics While People Drowned

I'm sure that the media was getting their talking points from rove, just like a few assholes in this thread.

I just wish I could understand why a devastating hurricane which killed thousands of people, ruining thousands of lives, could possibly become a rallying point for the republican party. I mean, Katrina hit New Orleans - that's a fact. The levees broke - fact. The streets flooded - fact. The reaction from the government was slow and underwhelming - fact. Blaming the residents for the tragedy is a new low for the party, not for Limbaugh though, he's always been a useless turd.

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shortly after katrina hit limbaugh said the people stuck in NO had the same opportunity as everyone else to "have a good job, buy and SUV and get out in time". that is close to an exact quote. doesn't that apply to the residents of Iowa also, rush?

and now he has the same opportunity again to exaggerate NO violence. the main reason bush waited to help NO may have been that they were hoping for black on white violence limbaugh and co could use on talk radio for many elections to come. it largely didn't happen, although they were quick to spread rumors, some of which limbaugh continues to repeat.

McCain Fails to Come Clean on Katrina Record

This sumbitch was having a birthday bash with his bitch-handler/pimp boosh while people were drowning. any racist scumbag wnat to leap to the defense?

arkansasdem's picture

Limbaugh should look at the complete destruction in New Orleans. I wasn't a slow rising flood, it was an onrush of water when the levees broke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWhlytQgcpk

joeedugan's picture

Any President who refused to interrupt his vacation, as 100s of WHITE American bodies rotted in the sun, would be been impeached, regardless of his party or the make-up of congress. End of story.

trankhussein's picture

Daniel W. @ 93:

TimTexas @ 61:

Sarah @ 58:

TimTexas @ 47:

You've yet to back up your "reality" with facts. I'm waiting.....

Really... where has the looting, raping and murdering occured as a result of the flooding in the midwest. I can't show you something that isn't reported. The lack of any stories about it, at least for now, show he is right.

I call bullshit. The stories of looting, raping and murdering in NOLA were largely fictionalized. Most of the fine people of that city behaved heroically and admirably in the face of one of the worst natural disasters this country had ever seen. But because they were largely poor and black, many in America could only think that they would behave like savages. Popular Mechanics debunked the "rape, murder, loot" myths here:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html?page=7

See also American Journalism Review:

http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3998

See also Reason Magazine:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/34103.html

Unfortunately, the attribution of "savagery" to poor, racial minority groups during times of disaster is nothing new. False stories about "savage" blacks raping and looting were also prevalent in the aftermath of the great Mississippi flood of 1927. "Blaming the victim" racism is apparently still one of our favorite past-times. Right, Tim?

could it be that is what rove-bush were waiting for, why they couldn't supply water and basics? it would have a been a big PR coup for their talk radio and fox propaganda machine. when it didn't materialize they had to start the rumors.

trankhussein @ 109:

shortly after katrina hit limbaugh said the people stuck in NO had the same opportunity as everyone else to "have a good job, buy and SUV and get out in time". that is close to an exact quote. doesn't that apply to the residents of Iowa also, rush?

and now he has the same opportunity again to exaggerate NO violence. the main reason bush waited to help NO may have been that they were hoping for black on white violence limbaugh and co could use on talk radio for many elections to come. it largesimply didn't happen, although they were quick to spread rumorlies, some of which limbaugh continues to repeat.

*fixed*
*NOTE: it turns out that they got a republican city and a republican state by displacing 284,000 black people, who voted 93 to 98% democratic.

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TimTexas @ 73:

kakaya zanuda @ 64:

Whoa there, Silver. Points one through seven, TimTexas, are moot when you consider that NOLA had a heap of time to disintegrate before people got the help that is actually being freely allowed into Iowa. Guns waved at helicopters? A myth widely debunked. Looting? Or food gathering? What, someone stole a tee vee? Get out! I'm telling you, there's no comparison. No one blew the levees in Iowa. No one has been left to rot in the sun because of a disgusting lack of guardsmen. I guess there's nothing I can say to convince you that sending soldiers of fortune to guard the residents of the lower 9th, lest they leave for lighter soil, ranked high on the list of the worst crimes of the Bush era. But thanks for playing.

You think it's justifiable to act the way they did, and I don't. We'll get over it I'm sure.

So EVERYONE in NOLA was acting that way? Or was it just 90%? Maybe 50%? Or was it less than half, like 45%?

And frankly, I don't know how I would react if a hurricane flooded my entire geographical area, and washed away my friends and family, leaving me to hang onto my rooftop for several days wondering if it was all just a nightmare as the putrid waters rose higher and higher around me.

I don't see the logic in condeming an entire group of victims. What is the point? To score cheap political points by blaming the victims of the worst natural disaster in our lifetime? That's stooping pretty low in the "lets defend Bush" at any cost category.

StirFry's picture

Bitter Bud Hussein @ 104:

Gee, Tim and Marko sure quieted down...

Dittoheads like to blog together. They're probably off licking each others ...wounds.

L.A. Confidential's picture

Police pulled Blazek out of his pickup after he tried to run a checkpoint. When he allegedly bumped an Iowa state trooper with the truck, police drew their guns, broke a window on his vehicle and wrestled Blazek out. He was charged with assaulting an officer.
http://tinyurl.com/68p5fh

Auntie Christ's picture

No doubt about it.
Limpball's anal cysts have spread across the country and they're still attached to the fat ass. They're his most loyal defenders, and they get ever so irritated when the fat ass is called for being so full of shit.

...Amazing that they can type.
No surprise that the biggest cluster of those cysts would reside in Texas.

Peter G's picture

TimTexas @ 47:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

I wouldn't wish a New Orleans type government failure on anyone but if a similar top to bottem screwup does happen again could Rush,Timtexan, and Marko will be to show us how different white people are in those circumstances?

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

Interesting comment. No doubt you feel, like Ann Coulter, that the Jews are also people who need perfecting.

Ron's picture

TimTexas @ 61:

Sarah @ 58:

TimTexas @ 47:

Please bite my urban black asset @ 44:

All I'm saying is that it is what it is. Reality is just that. Maybe this will show us how much developmental work we still have to do with an entire portion of our society.

You've yet to back up your "reality" with facts. I'm waiting.....

Really... where has the looting, raping and murdering occured as a result of the flooding in the midwest. I can't show you something that isn't reported. The lack of any stories about it, at least for now, show he is right.

Sorry but I can't help it. Site monitor please forgive me. THE LACK OF ANY STORIES ABOUT IT, SHOW HE IS RIGHT. You are dumber than a box of rocks.

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fuck rush.

joeedugan @ 112:

Any President who refused to interrupt his vacation, as 100s of WHITE American bodies rotted in the sun, would be been impeached, regardless of his party or the make-up of congress. End of story.

bush didn't interrupt his current schedule as a view of this site will show. so 23 dead white people hasn't moved boosh either, nor mcFuckenheimer. so while mcBooshAssEater pimps around, Obama gets a shovel and helps people. Anyone think assRash limpdiKKK will mention that?

NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 115:

TimTexas @ 73:

kakaya zanuda @ 64:

Whoa there, Silver. Points one through seven, TimTexas, are moot when you consider that NOLA had a heap of time to disintegrate before people got the help that is actually being freely allowed into Iowa. Guns waved at helicopters? A myth widely debunked. Looting? Or food gathering? What, someone stole a tee vee? Get out! I'm telling you, there's no comparison. No one blew the levees in Iowa. No one has been left to rot in the sun because of a disgusting lack of guardsmen. I guess there's nothing I can say to convince you that sending soldiers of fortune to guard the residents of the lower 9th, lest they leave for lighter soil, ranked high on the list of the worst crimes of the Bush era. But thanks for playing.

You think it's justifiable to act the way they did, and I don't. We'll get over it I'm sure.

So EVERYONE in NOLA was acting that way? Or was it just 90%? Maybe 50%? Or was it less than half, like 45%?

And frankly, I don't know how I would react if a hurricane flooded my entire geographical area, and washed away my friends and family, leaving me to hang onto my rooftop for several days wondering if it was all just a nightmare as the putrid waters rose higher and higher around me.

I don't see the logic in condeming an entire group of victims. What is the point? To score cheap political points by blaming the victims of the worst natural disaster in our lifetime? That's stooping pretty low in the "lets defend Bush" at any cost category.

they were rumors. all of three incidents may heve been reported. two were at the stadium.

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As I write this, I'm sitting roughly 20 miles from what would be considered "ground zero" in Cedar Rapids, and maybe 7 miles from the flood zones in Iowa City and Coralville. While it may be days, or even weeks, before the factory I (and 1100 others) usually work in is fit for occupation again, we are all counting our blessings. We're doing that because, thanks to exceptional efforts from our state and local authorities and media, and widespread cooperation from our citizens, we are in most cases, safe and dry. We may be a little stinky at the moment (many of us are on water conservation programs right now until the crisis passes and the water treatment facilities are restored to full operation), but we're still here and that's all that matters. Yes, we have a long road to recovery ahead of us. We'll have to help some friends and neighbors pick up the pieces and restore their homes and businesses. But we'll get there.

I also recognize that as devastating as it was, it was no Katrina. We began hearing warnings of coming flooding early in the week. Yes, at some point it became obvious that the damage would be far worse than any we'd been warned about, or anything that could have been imagined or prepared for. But we had been warned. And we had the time, transportation and accessible dry ground in the surrounding area to take advantage of those warnings. I cannot imagine what it would have been like to be suddenly surrounded by an incoming and fast-flowing wall of water like they were during Katrina. And I cannot imagine the complete sense of abandonment and helplessness that must have set in once people realized that help really wasn't on the way, and they were largely on their own.

I find it ironic though, that Limbaugh would point out how much better our reaction supposedly was than those from Katrina. The most likely reason our communities reacted differently, is precisely because there was a Katrina. In short, our reaction was different largely because we saw how utterly incompetant the administration he claims to support actually was. Seeing the devastation and the complete farce FEMA had become during during the Bush administration, forced people to recognize that we'd better help one another because George sure wasn't gonna come to the rescue. Do you think he'd be surprised to know that was the point he was actually making?

I have to admit, it was comforting and inspiring to see my fellow Iowans jump in and help each other and their communities during the toughest of times -- to know that the local tv stations could put out a call, and hundreds of people would show up almost immediately to help. It makes me even prouder than ever to come from where I do, and to raise my child here. But we don't have a lock on those values. They exist everywhere in this country. Including those areas devastated by Katrina -- some of which have turned around this week and sent back truckloads of supplies to help us in our time of need --simply because they have not forgotten that we did the same for them.

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Please give me a break. If I'm not mistaken the exaggeration reports started showing up on Fox News, and the same images were shown over and over. I know that there was looting, but the situation was not even as close as reported on the news. How about the rumors of rape and such in the dome? Weren't they proved to be lies? I know it sounds like conspiracy, but those exaggerated rumors were spread to make the entire population of New Orleans look like a bunch of criminal, low life animals, undeserving of any compassion so Bush wouldn't look as bad as he did for the huge failure. This is the lowest anyone calling themselves humans can get. I'll bet the rumors were sent out directly from Rove's office too.

Now, prove me wrong.

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Rush Limbaugh aside, is anyone saying that there is NO difference between the stolid peoples of the Midwest and the people of urban persuasion on the coasts?

Having lived in various examples of each I'm telling the uninitiated there is a staggering difference. Iowans tend to vote Dem as do Wisconsin and Illinois, so I'm not sure if Rush wants to go there or not...

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CointelPro@122: Nobody's rotting. The situation in the Midwest is under control and we are able to recover the dead. The situation after Katrina was out of control and unlike anything I've seen in the U.S. Bodies rotting in flood water because the government is overwhelmed is something you see in the third world, not the first. Granted, it was a major disaster, but the primary problem was a government that simply did not care.

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trankhussein @ 113:

Daniel W. @ 93:

TimTexas @ 61:

Sarah @ 58:

Really... where has the looting, raping and murdering occured as a result of the flooding in the midwest. I can't show you something that isn't reported. The lack of any stories about it, at least for now, show he is right.

I call bullshit. The stories of looting, raping and murdering in NOLA were largely fictionalized. Most of the fine people of that city behaved heroically and admirably in the face of one of the worst natural disasters this country had ever seen. But because they were largely poor and black, many in America could only think that they would behave like savages. Popular Mechanics debunked the "rape, murder, loot" myths here:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html?page=7

See also American Journalism Review:

http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3998

See also Reason Magazine:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/34103.html

Unfortunately, the attribution of "savagery" to poor, racial minority groups during times of disaster is nothing new. False stories about "savage" blacks raping and looting were also prevalent in the aftermath of the great Mississippi flood of 1927. "Blaming the victim" racism is apparently still one of our favorite past-times. Right, Tim?

could it be that is what rove-bush were waiting for, why they couldn't supply water and basics? it would have a been a big PR coup for their talk radio and fox propaganda machine. when it didn't materialize they had to start the rumors.

What people also need to remember is that they let people out of the prisions during the flood of Katrina. That added to a lot of the chaos.

Also, poor folks have fewer resources, so most HAD to forage. I remember a newsclip showing a white man who had taken a bottle of water and some food from a store. The caption read "man forced to forage for food and water". But when a similar scene is shown of a non-white person, he was called a 'looter'.

It's like some people think that racism isn't noticed.

I should also point out that many folks in Iowa were wondering when help would come. I seem to remember something about FEMA wanting to wait 30 days to see if it's an emergency.

There was a lot more damage done in Katrina. A LOT more. Bodies floating down the street. People downing and climbing up on roofs to stay above water.

Iowa and Katrina.... they don't compare.

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arkansasdem @ 111:

Limbaugh should look at the complete destruction in New Orleans. I wasn't a slow rising flood, it was an onrush of water when the levees broke.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWhlytQgcpk

you can google map or google earth New Orleans in 2008, and see the many tarped blue roofs there.
and the thousands upon thousands of piled up vehicles on waste ground.
Its still a disaster zone with half the population missing even now.
Going by the aerial photos, theres lots of federal or blackwater barracks dotted about the place.

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nyguy @ 125:

Please give me a break. If I'm not mistaken the exaggeration reports started showing up on Fox News, and the same images were shown over and over. I know that there was looting, but the situation was not even as close as reported on the news. How about the rumors of rape and such in the dome? Weren't they proved to be lies? I know it sounds like conspiracy, but those exaggerated rumors were spread to make the entire population of New Orleans look like a bunch of criminal, low life animals, undeserving of any compassion so Bush wouldn't look as bad as he did for the huge failure. This is the lowest anyone calling themselves humans can get. I'll bet the rumors were sent out directly from Rove's office too.

Now, prove me wrong.

The MSM ran with the few cases they had, over and over again to build up the image.
And of course 'white people rescuing provisions' and 'black people looting', a careful MSM gov chosen emotional choice of words to damn a population.

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These two flooding disasters are two different situations. There are probably black people as well as white in the Iowa flooding. But you can praise their actions and not compare them to New Orleans and Katrina.

In Iowa they people knew the river was rising. They had time to prepare. To evacuate. The New Orleans and Ala etc flooding was of a sudden onset. They knew a hurricane was coming but they did not know the levees would burst. And besides how can you prepare for a flood like Katrina when there is a sudden onset and rush of water.

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Rush Limbaugh is a very sick and twisted man who does nothing but sow seeds of hatred. He's totally disconnected from reality, which doesn't say much for his listeners. The story about people shooting at helicopters wasn't even true. Many of the other stories were also false. Besides, the situation in NOLA and Iowa are not the same.

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Numinous @ 128:

trankhussein @ 113:

Daniel W. @ 93:

TimTexas @ 61:

I call bullshit. The stories of looting, raping and murdering in NOLA were largely fictionalized. Most of the fine people of that city behaved heroically and admirably in the face of one of the worst natural disasters this country had ever seen. But because they were largely poor and black, many in America could only think that they would behave like savages. Popular Mechanics debunked the "rape, murder, loot" myths here:

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/earth/2315076.html?page=7

See also American Journalism Review:

http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3998

See also Reason Magazine:

http://www.reason.com/news/show/34103.html

Unfortunately, the attribution of "savagery" to poor, racial minority groups during times of disaster is nothing new. False stories about "savage" blacks raping and looting were also prevalent in the aftermath of the great Mississippi flood of 1927. "Blaming the victim" racism is apparently still one of our favorite past-times. Right, Tim?

could it be that is what rove-bush were waiting for, why they couldn't supply water and basics? it would have a been a big PR coup for their talk radio and fox propaganda machine. when it didn't materialize they had to start the rumors.

What people also need to remember is that they let people out of the prisions during the flood of Katrina. That added to a lot of the chaos.

Also, poor folks have fewer resources, so most HAD to forage. I remember a newsclip showing a white man who had taken a bottle of water and some food from a store. The caption read "man forced to forage for food and water". But when a similar scene is shown of a non-white person, he was called a 'looter'.

It's like some people think that racism isn't noticed.

I should also point out that many folks in Iowa were wondering when help would come. I seem to remember something about FEMA wanting to wait 30 days to see if it's an emergency.

There was a lot more damage done in Katrina. A LOT more. Bodies floating down the street. People downing and climbing up on roofs to stay above water.

Iowa and Katrina.... they don't compare.

If you look at the statistics for the official death toll in New Orleans, the age group with the highest mortality is small children and 40-60 year olds,
basically children swept away by an inferno of water and overweight older people unable to survive the incoming flood waters when they got swamped by them.
A gruesome sad tale of numbers and Republican uncompassion in helping the survivors, which continues to this day with the missing half of New Orleans unable to go back to their homes.
The people of NO were not Republican voters in the main, so they got left to drown and starve by the Republicans.
Can we impeach them now !

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bush's worst fucking nightmare @ 14:

If that asshat ever crosses my path I will step on his fucking throat and piss in his face

Why would you want to give the guy a freebee? Normally he pays top dollar for that in Puerto Rico.

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Spicegal @ 132:

Rush Limbaugh is a very sick and twisted man who does nothing but sow seeds of hatred. He's totally disconnected from reality, which doesn't say much for his listeners. The story about people shooting at helicopters wasn't even true. Many of the other stories were also false. Besides, the situation in NOLA and Iowa are not the same.

The problem I have is with the logical dissonance of the common redneck. When they are told how them "black people trying to shoot down helicopters" and few of them (if any) has the common sense of wondering what would anyone gain from shooting at a helicopter trying to rescue them from the roof.

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marko @ 9:

urban blacks and rural whites are very different. in this he is correct. i have lived in both places. if a big earthquake hit st. louis, the city i live in, i would have to defend my house or what was left of it like people had to do in new orleans. if a disaster hit farmington missouri, 60 miles south, it would be a totally different story. i wouldn't have to walk around with my tricked out tactical M4 in farmington, i would in st. louis.

it's not racism it's reality.

Okay. I see what you're saying. That only Blacks get out of control when there is a disaster while Whites are calm and orderly waiting for help to arrive. That's just natural isn't, it? /snark

Do you realize by that statement you made that you admitted you are blind to the racial disparities by region via institutional racism and white privilege? If you agree with Rush Limbaugh, it makes you doubly blind.

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TimTexas @ 11:

marko @ 9:

urban blacks and rural whites are very different. in this he is correct. i have lived in both places. if a big earthquake hit st. louis, the city i live in, i would have to defend my house or what was left of it like people had to do in new orleans. if a disaster hit farmington missouri, 60 miles south, it would be a totally different story. i wouldn't have to walk around with my tricked out tactical M4 in farmington, i would in st. louis.

it's not racism it's reality.

Bingo. Well said.

It is what it is.

bingo. well said.
see at the klan meeting tonight.
cross burning starts at 8 sharp.

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Really, Rush? you want to see looting and rioting in Iowa and Illinois? You, sir, give douchebags a bad name.

joeedugan @ 127:

CointelPro@122: Nobody's rotting. The situation in the Midwest is under control and we are able to recover the dead. The situation after Katrina was out of control and unlike anything I've seen in the U.S. Bodies rotting in flood water because the government is overwhelmed is something you see in the third world, not the first. Granted, it was a major disaster, but the primary problem was a government that simply did not care.

I understand that. my point was that the government was intentionally 'unprepared'. see the reference to the rovian plan mentioned in #107

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CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 101:

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 83:

Billy Hussien Pilgrim @ 13:

He says that the people of New Orleans didn't do anything to help themselves,

thats not true, people went to the designated rescue center the sports dome on high ground and looked after their nieghbours,
theres a multitude of heroic stories from New Orleans, but they are of no interest to the generally racist MSM, which panders to its non thinking white suburban and rural white audience.

I respectfully disagree, the media simply uses racist talking points started by the repug operatives in the editorial offices. racism has been one of their tools since the emancipation proclamation.

Thank you for saying that. It boggles my mind how white privilege and prejudice seems to cloud one's view of a disaster occurring in two different places.

The language in comparing what happened in the mid-west to NOLA is on the verge of dehumanizing blacks while making whites sanctified for their sacrifices. And that is the big problem here. I've said it before. But if the MSM was a little bit diversified in terms of its racial make-up, then the reportage would cover Iowa and other flood-ravaged mid-Western areas with a little more reality instead of the meme that only "blacks are disorderly".

Don't tell me that if there was a major disaster in a majority white area that there wouldn't be folks looting, running, stealing and exacting violence in the streets.

People must think that only emotional behavior belongs to the "other" instead of the dominant culture.

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Otherwise, why are people listening to the right-wing blowhard anyway? Rush just substitutes a microphone for a hood.

Pericles @ 134:

bush's worst fucking nightmare @ 14:

If that asshat ever crosses my path I will step on his fucking throat and piss in his face

Why would you want to give the guy a freebee? Normally he pays top dollar for that in Puerto Rico.

post of the day.

mike's picture

another sure sign that his drug addled brain will always be delusional, even about the most obvious things or maybe he's incapable of telling the truth.
is it possible that he's that far removed from reality that he believes anything he says?

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Until most posters here read Douglas Brinkley's wonderful, accurate portrayal of the flood of New Orleans (The Great Deluge), there can be little to no more contrasts between Katrina's devastation and the current flooding in Iowa and Illinois.

The basic facts of New Orleans are thus (given what was reported in the media at the time aside):
1) there were no rapes or murders of any kind in the Superdome.
2) while police did report some shootings, there was no gunfire aimed at rescue helicopters.
3) 2,000 people died in New Orleans in a matter of hours (less than a dozen have died in the midwest floods in two weeks' time).
4) For the hundreds of thousands who remained in New Orleans, or more the matter - couldn't escape, there was virtually NO assistance from the
overwhelmed mayor of N.O. the governor of Louisiana AND the federal government for four whole days. There was no fresh water to drink, no food to buy or prepare (as most homes were destroyed) so YES there was some looting - the vast majority to survive. To eat. To drink water.

Rush is a master at simplifying history to serve his narrow, oxy-contin hazed view of U.S. History. We shouldn't fall too easily for his drivel.
Check the facts and call him on his vituperative diatribes as necessary.

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FACT: I was in prison and blacks are a violent race.

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King of Kings, I am from New Orleans, and I agree. I just want to tell you west coast and east coast liberals that your concern for New Orleans is very much appreciated, but at the same time I just have to tell you that you guys don't know squat about New Orleans. New Orleans was a disaster area long before Katrina, and it was a disaster because of the culture. Now, I am not trying to tell you every New Olreanian is an indolent, self-absorbed, mean, ignorant, sociopathic, self-indulgent, alcoholic, drug addicted retard with no ambition to be anything but more of the same, but enough of them are, and enough of them tolerate it that the paint sticks when Limbaugh's broad brush slaps across New Orleans. Being from New Orleans, I don't know anyone who died as a result of Katrina except for one old guy who might have died a little early because he had to move to a new town. On the other hand, before Katrina, every woman I knew in New Orleans had been raped at least once, usually beginning in their early teens. I knew many many people who committed suicide or who were shot randomly or in robberies. Many went crazy after too many drugs. Lots accidentally overdosed. A striking amount of people there die of really weird cancers because the culture is so servile and lacking in resolve that it tolerates the industrial contamination. The political corruption is really unbelievable, and it's mostly Democratic. The cops have longer rap sheets than the people they're arresting, and often get caught shooting one another and involved in crack distribution, and if you are a regular citizen, they just might beat you up because they're having a bad day. Oh, I know, you guys just don't believe me. You're probably thinking, "It couldn't have been that bad really. I exaggerate about political stuff all the time, and Heretic us just playing things up for effect." No, let me tell you, if you live in most places in this country, the places that you call, "the hood" are not the hood. We might not have had a gang problem in New Orleans, but I swear to you that is only because you just can't get New Olreanians organized to do anything. We made South Central LA look like Mayberry. You ever seen babies crawling around in diapers at 2:00am in the middle of the street? You ever met a kid who doesn't have a last name? You ever heard a ten-minute gun battle involving many full-auto weapons, shotguns, handguns, and a dozen police units that doesn't make the papers or broadcast news the next day? You ever have the problem that you can't drive down your street on the weekends because the block is backed up with traffic waiting to get to the crack house, and the police won't even clear the street? You ever been shot at in front of your house? Then have you ever had liberals from other parts of the country say they understand them shooting at you--I'm talking live ammo here, not metaphor--and act like black people in New Orleans were a minority when they were a 70% majority, and were well represented in city government, from the mayor on down. I have to tell you, you know how when bad stuff happens to America, black people are always like, "That's your chickens coming home to roost"? Well, New Orleans is the black people of New Orleans' chickens coming home to roost. Where there is no vision, the people perish. I am voting Obama partially because I want to shame these decadant, lazy dumbasses who couldn't even figure out they had the power if they had just, yeah, bootstrapped. You want to know about the prevalent culture in New Orleans when I left? Check out the lyrics to this song. http://www.dahiphop.com/d/djjimi-lyrics-910/bounceforthejuvenile-lyrics-... Now, you probably won't get most of the references, but they are talking about those precious housing projects, breeding grounds for violent crime, that the lefties are always trying to save, and you know those colorful Mardi Gras indians with the huge feather headdresses you've probably seen? Well, most of you don't know those tribes are pretty much full of criminals. I mean, they're probably the closest things to gangs that we've got. I've seen a guy in one of those tribes wearing a purple feather headdress and outfit walking a young woman at gunpoint down the street. Of course, when I called the police and told them a purple indian was holding a girl at gunpoint, no unit ever showed up. I wonder if that was just business as usual or whether they just thought I was another crazy.

pete's picture

Someone really should shove Lush into 10 feet of cold, flowing, water. Then we could call him "Bob".

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So, how's that Southern Strategy working out?

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pete @ 147:

Someone really should shove Lush into 10 feet of cold, flowing, water. Then we could call him "Bob".

Rush isn't a float. He's a Bloat.

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