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Brit Hume and FOX news pride themselves on his one hour show. A while back---Roger Ailes said on CSPAN that he dared anyone to dispute the fact the Hume's show isn't the most fair and balanced cable news program on TV. (paraphrasing) Roger, I think you need to rethink it. I was repeatedly emailed the alleged story of Obama's half brother calling Obama a Muslim in the Jerusalem Post yesterday. I googled it and found no story.

It was obviously pulled because it wasn't true. ABC did a fact check on it and guess what they found? It was a fraud.

It was a sloppy paraphrase that emerged as false evidence. Malik Obama, the older half brother of Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, gave a brief interview to Israeli Army Radio.

The Jerusalem Post listened to the interview, apparently, and produced a story saying "Malik Obama says his brother will be good president for the Jews. Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background."

Nowhere is Malik quoted. The Jerusalem Post has since taken the story down of its website,

It ended up on Fox News, with anchor Brut Hume saying on June 16 that: "Barack Obama is a practicing Christian, married in a Christian church, whose children were also baptized in that church. His campaign has emphasized his faith in part to dispel what the campaign calls an online smear campaign which contends among other things that Obama was raised a Muslim. There is even a statement on his official campaign website reading, quote, 'Obama has never been a Muslim, and is a committed Christian.' But Obama's half brother is not so sure. Malik Obama tells The Jerusalem Post that, 'if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background.'"

So is it true? No.

Brit Hume reads the smear, repeats the smear because Conservatives pounced on it and once again pushed a false narrative into our airwaves. I watched the next two days of Hume's Political Grape Vine section and he didn't issue a correction. Leave a message in for FOX: Send news tip to FOXNews.com on the bottom right of the page.

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Le Roi Est Mort's picture

Damn these paranoid Israelis!

Bud's picture

So why are we not talking about why Obama dropped out of the public financial system? Trying to hide something? I think the name crooks and LIARS applies here.

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture

now this will be repeated ad nauseum on the wingnut talk shows

brit hume is no longer a journalist

he is a whore

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture

Bud @ 2:

So why are we not talking about why Obama dropped out of the public financial system? Trying to hide something? I think the name crooks and LIARS applies here.

you mean, why is he not taking public matching funds??

and why arent you posting with your real name, address and phone number

do you have something to hide there troll boy??

come on...tell us who you are

who pays you to troll on liberal blogs

Obamamite's picture

yeah, i'm going to hold my breath and wait for that one.

Ace Armstrong's picture

Brit Hume is the sadist man on TV.

Okay he's isn't a Muslim and never has been. If he was now or had been, so what? I wouldn't care one bit.

As for anything you here on tv, take it with a grain of salt and check it out on the net.

Prairie Sunshine's picture

#1. Obama has opted in to the ultimate publican financing program...direct and immediate with no filter thru the fed. Kinda like he went direct and immediate to the flood ravaged city to help with the sandbagging instead of, you know, "surveying" it today from the aftermath.

#2. Brit Hume is using SOP #1 -- repeat a lie, call it a rumor, repeat a lie...he and Limpballs must be in competition for who can be the all-time champ for KO's worst person in the world award.

JWL's picture

"Leave a message in for FOX". Because they care.

Then teach your cat to read, and your dog write.

pissed off patricia's picture

Damn my mind isn't turned on today. That should have read: As for anything you hear....

osiris's picture

Brit Hume's knees must be sore at this point! Bending over to be used by as a mindless puppet and sycophant has left him as the laughingstock of television news. This man is one sad (and desperate) buckaroo who's become an irrelevant cipher!

Bonkers's picture

Bud @ 2:

So why are we not talking about why Obama dropped out of the public financial system? Trying to hide something? I think the name crooks and LIARS applies here.

Put up or shut up, bungtrollio.

clb72's picture

Shouldn't you add in a Seinfeld "not that there's anything wrong with that"? I find it strange for progressives to be refuting the "Muslim smear" without qualifying it in some way- that being a Muslim or having some Muslim background is not actually a bad thing!

osiris's picture

Go to www.foxblocker.com and block these propagandist megaphones from entering the sanctity of your home! BLOCK FOX TODAY!

Jusker's picture

The right wingers I work with distrust Obama because he simply knows people who are Muslim. You gotta be hating Muslims, not seeing any differences or any humanity.

harley's picture

This is the 5th time in the last 5 weeks Faux has "reported" a faux story.

Once per week is par for the course.

Left&Left's picture

If I were Obama I would never accept an apology or even acknowledge this no account bigot. It would give Hume credibility....something he has only with hateful, frightened, bigots who are scared as hell of the prospect of a "non white male" President.

osiris's picture

Sorry - the Fox blocker sit has changed. Go to www.engagdet.com and block these charlatans and liars from your life and living room today! Make a statement and block them where it hurts - along with all of their advertisers. The lists are out there - get busy and hit them in the pocketbook.

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Here’s the bit from the audio tape of Obama’s rambling brother:

“I think he'll be a good president, you know, as long as, you know, all of this doesn't go to his head.
I don't think that's in any way -- is going to be, you know, something to worry about. You know, I, myself, am not speaking for him. You know, but -- you know, we are here. We love people in general, you know, and people who love us. I, myself, love people who love me. You know, so -- and I think it's mutual. Now, I can't go in terms of Israel and Kenya and America and so forth, but, you know, based on what else I've heard him say and what I know of him as an individual, I don't think, you know, Israel should worry too much, you know, about the connection. Because I am a Muslim myself, and I don't think that my being a Muslim has got anything to do with my brother being the president of the United States.”

http://mediamatters.org/items/200806180008?f=h_top

rain's picture

Does anyone really expect a correction from Brit? Dream on.

osiris's picture

In a rush and misspelled it: It's www.engadget.com

Obamamite's picture

Jusker @ 15:

The right wingers I work with distrust Obama because he simply knows people who are Muslim. You gotta be hating Muslims, not seeing any differences or any humanity.

see, if that was me, i would start telling people i'm a muslim. i would throw it thier face.

Left&Left's picture

Bud @ 2:

So why are we not talking about why Obama dropped out of the public financial system? Trying to hide something? I think the name crooks and LIARS applies here.

Stick with the Michelle using the term "whitey" bullshit and crawl back under your rock and "hope" for another fake scandal.

Jerry's picture

I'm with Lara Logan, don't watch this shite, it's designed to rot your brain and keep you mad.

motorfingaz's picture

The right wing is the enemy of America, Truth, and Justice.

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Bonkers @ 12:

Bud @ 2:

So why are we not talking about why Obama dropped out of the public financial system? Trying to hide something? I think the name crooks and LIARS applies here.

Put up or shut up, bungtrollio.

HA! bungtrollio!!! Nice!

Mark's picture

Why doesn't Obama say: so what if I was a Muslim? That's the real question. And why does the Obama campaign have a problem with head scarves in the shot behind their candidate? What are they afraid of? Of the right wing smear? Come on, grow a pair!

Left&Left's picture

Mark @ 27:

Why doesn't Obama say: so what if I was a Muslim? That's the real question. And why does the Obama campaign have a problem with head scarves in the shot behind their candidate? What are they afraid of? Of the right wing smear? Come on, grow a pair!

Why don't you "grow a pair" tough guy and deal with REAL MAN ISSUES that REAL AMERICANS really give a fuck about! You desperate trolls have absolutely nothing!

mrsisk's picture

Shouldn't Brit Hume get fired like Dan Rather did after pushing a story based on fake documents?

miss_kitty's picture

Who gives a shit about a half brother's doings? I mean beside the obvious-assholes at FOX 'News.'
Even if this were a truth, what's the big fucking deal? Oh yeah. Black=Muslim=Bad. What a fucking pile of racist bullshit.

Jesus these people need to get lives. And maybe with all the millions billions they're raking in they could purchase some grey matter and perhaps a smidgen of compassion.

anneyhussein's picture

Leave a message in for FOX: Send news tip to FOXNews.com on the bottom right of the page.

Done. The direct email address for Hume's "Special Report" is

special@foxnews.com

WE ALL LOVE A LITTLE BUSH's picture

NEWS FLASH.....OBAMA HAS A BLACK BABY ! ! !

do we really give a shit what FOX news says.... FOX news is COMEDY CENTRAL FOR REDNECKS.... that's all...

can we quit expecting the truth from them and not worry about their every story....

MIGHT AS WELL ANNOUNCE.... movie studio admits THE HULK is not real

Capt. Bat Hussein Guano's picture

"Smell that?, That desperation smell? I love the smell of desperation in the morning, it smells like victory." Brit Hume, my nominee for giant suck hole of the last 8 years.

Fred's picture

Mark ,
Give Larry Craig a call before your flight tonite, something about a pre-flight meeting!

lilybelle's picture

How insulting and galling it must be for Muslim-Americans to hear their faith referred to as a smear, as in being tied to Islam is political death and therefore something to run from like a disease. I understand why Obama has to do this. I understand the politics, but boy are Muslims the new other. Does that mean the Repugs are kinda over the gay? If only they could find a gay Muslim.

Capt. Bat Hussein Guano @ 33:

"Smell that?, That desperation smell? I love the smell of desperation in the morning, it smells like victory." Brit Hume, my nominee for giant suck hole of the last 8 years.

That is one sweet smell but I have a question: can you really "nominate" a suck hole? I thought you just kind of note it on your map and navigate accordingly.

Mark's picture

Left&Left @ 28

Calm down Left&Left, I support Obama. But that doesn't mean we can't raise important questions. I'm disappointed in the way the campaign has treated those Muslim women at the rally. I'm disappointed that Obama doesn't support gay marriage. I'm with him on everything else, but I wish he would go all the way when it comes to peoples rights. That's what I mean by 'grow a pair'. I think it's his campaign being cautious, I don't believe it reflects him at all. Nevertheless, to me, he comes off as weak on those issues.

Jack Damage's picture

Hume has a lot more to apologize for than Just parroting some lie about Obama's religion allegedly said by his brother... Yea, he needs to apologize to the Obama family, but that is merely a very small beginning... How bout apologizing to the entire nation for being a empty headed shill for the Bush administration for the last eight years. How about apologizing to the institution of journalism and those journalists, (mostly international, not U.S. based sadly) whom have had to put up with him and his so called fair and balanced employer as they spent time trashing and tainting the entire journalist community and the whole concept of the fourth estate with his bullshit cheerleading of Bush's fascism light approach to ruining the United States and assorted other lies and Bush/Cheney supplied propaganda. And that still won't cover all the apologizing this prick needs to do... Fair and Balanced... yea... right, my ass... I got something fair and balanced for ya, ya little shit.... Fuck you Brit Hume... Fuck you and your boss Rupert!!!! JD

redcat's picture

who gives a shit? does anybody care what the assholes at fox have to say? the idiots that watch fox aren't going to vote for obama anyway. just ignore them.

Anais's picture

Obama was not in Muslim dress, he was in AFRICAN attire. He does have a Muslim background only in that his father and paternal ancesrors were Muslim. Brit Hume takes the photo and quote and attempts to make them into points of shame, when they should not be. But that's what Faux Noise does best: makes a big bad faux noise about nothing. How sad it must be for millions of Muslim Americans to have their faith considered a matter of derision. Back in the day, "The Wisdom of the Koran" was must reading for college students.

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Fred @ 34:

Mark ,
Give Larry Craig a call before your flight tonite, something about a pre-flight meeting!

Fred, why do you think implying Mark is gay is an insult? Do you realize how bigoted that is? If not, do you have any gay friends you can ask about it?

organmeat's picture

mrsisk @ 29:

Shouldn't Brit Hume get fired like Dan Rather did after pushing a story based on fake documents?

They weren't fake documents only copies of the original.

American Native's picture

Why doens't crooks and liars report on Obama's just-named foreign policy panel? And don't give me that troll stuff. I hate both parties. They are dividing and conquering you all!

Obama's foreign policy panel include bona fide war criminals: Madeleine "1 million dead iraqi children was worth the sanctions" albright, lee "iran contra" hamilton, etc.

http://www.reuters.com/article/asiaCrisis/idUSN18390929

Democrats = Republicans! Same sh*t in a new, shiny toilet!

Vote Cynthia McKinney on the green party ballot! (Or Dennis Kucinich!)

* MADELEINE ALBRIGHT - Served a secretary of state in former President Bill Clinton's administration and was a top adviser to the campaign of Obama's former rival, Hillary Clinton.

* DAVID BOREN - The former governor and senator from Oklahoma chaired the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence.

* WARREN CHRISTOPHER - Was Bill Clinton's first secretary of state and also served as deputy secretary of state in the Carter administration.

* GREG CRAIG - Was a former senior adviser to Albright in the Clinton administration and later led the team defending Bill Clinton against the impeachment charges involving Clinton's affair with a White House intern. Despite long ties to both Bill and Hillary Clinton, Craig was an early supporter of Obama and has been part of his inner circle of advisers.

* RICHARD DANZIG - Served as secretary of the Navy under Bill Clinton and is an expert on counterterrorism.

* LEE HAMILTON - The former Indiana congressman co-chaired the blue-ribbon commission that investigated the Sept. 11 attacks and was a lead author of Iraq Study Group report that offered recommendations on Iraq to President George W. Bush in 2006.

* ERIC HOLDER - Was deputy attorney general in Bill Clinton's administration and is working with Caroline Kennedy, daughter of slain President John F. Kennedy, in helping to guide Obama's search for a vice presidential running mate.

* ANTHONY LAKE - Was national security adviser to Bill Clinton and has been part of the inner circle of Obama's campaign.

* SAM NUNN - A former senator from Georgia who chaired the Senate Armed Services Committee, Nunn has long been viewed as a leading Democratic voice on foreign policy and some have speculated he might be looked at by Obama as a potential running mate.

* WILLIAM PERRY - Was secretary of defense under Bill Clinton.

* SUSAN RICE - The former assistant secretary of state for African Affairs is Obama's senior foreign policy adviser.

* TIM ROEMER - The former Indiana congressman was a member of the 9/11 commission.

* JAMES STEINBERG - Was deputy national security adviser to Bill Clinton.

(Reporting by Caren Bohan; Editing by David Wiessler and Cynthia Osterman)

shutterbug98's picture

That's not "Muslim" dress, that's AFRICAN dress you dumbshit!!! "Muslim" dress is WAAAY different--the LOONG white shirt,the white pants & the Kufi (skullcap).

Mark's picture

Left&Left @ 27

Why don’t you “grow a pair” tough guy and deal with REAL MAN ISSUES that REAL AMERICANS really give a fuck about! You desperate trolls have absolutely nothing!

One thing that is dangerous I my view is Obama supporters sounding like the right wing nut jobs of the last seven years. I'm a Obama supporter. I'm proud to say I even shook his hand a few weeks ago. And no, I'm not a real American, I'm a Dutch immigrant. I love the movement, but people have to chill! Don't become what you've resented for seven years!

BrokenArrow's picture

Just like Huckabee said the other day, lay off Obama. Well, rational minds would agree. It's low tide for the republickkkons, and they will continue the madness.

The problem is this: Everyone, yes, even the age range that watches this garbage, are hip to their tricks.

Come next year, brit hume won't be able to give it away on 7th avenue..........papa bill will end up auditioning for Extra, and NOT get the job.........the walls of illusion are tumbling down.

The things some people will do for a paycheck. Good thing hume has large lips, he's going to need them!

Mike's picture

yourcomments@foxnews.com

I wrote: Once again it took another REAL news network to undo a Fox News fraud.

First the madrassa story, now this. Will Brit Hume issue an on-air apology? Do you guys ever, you know, fact check, or is "fact" a 4-letter word for you all?

taller ghost walt's picture

While FauxSnooze is apologizing for this can we also get an apology for the past 7+ years?

good girl roxie's picture

Brit Hume? Apologize? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hee hee hee ...

VietVet67's picture

Ol' hound dog face apologize? Not gonna happen. My apologies to hound dogs.

Capt. Bat Hussein Guano's picture

Exotic Blue Lensman @ 36:

Capt. Bat Hussein Guano @ 33:

"Smell that?, That desperation smell? I love the smell of desperation in the morning, it smells like victory." Brit Hume, my nominee for giant suck hole of the last 8 years.

That is one sweet smell but I have a question: can you really "nominate" a suck hole? I thought you just kind of note it on your map and navigate accordingly.

Point made, point taken. I just like award shows, maybe we need to show case the worst of the media for a change.

John the Elder's picture

Expecting Hume to apologize to Barack Obama is to expect something that a person would have to be a human being to accomplish. Hume is incapable of doing anything that comes close to being a human. He is a total tool of Bush, Ailes and the rest of the wacko right-wing cabal. Only the wacko right cares about what Hume says about anything. Everyone with a functioning brain knows that Faux Noise is a total fraud and an outlet for Rethuglican speak.

Fux?
Lying?
I'm Shocked!
Shocked, I say!
This is outrageous!

karl's picture

spin to win.....here's an article in rolling stone.......parts of america believe this stuff
http://www.alternet.org/election08/88211/?ses=312218af3c4a9b3a9934711ed5...

John the Elder @ 52:

Expecting Hume to apologize to Barack Obama is to expect something that a person would have to be a human being to accomplish. Hume is incapable of doing anything that comes close to being a human. He is a total tool of Bush, Ailes and the rest of the wacko right-wing cabal. Only the wacko right cares about what Hume says about anything. Everyone with a functioning brain knows that Faux Noise is a total fraud and an outlet for Rethuglican speak.

And that truth was repeated quite frequently by Scottie McClellan.

StirFry's picture

Mark @ 27:

Why doesn't Obama say: so what if I was a Muslim? That's the real question. And why does the Obama campaign have a problem with head scarves in the shot behind their candidate? What are they afraid of? Of the right wing smear? Come on, grow a pair!

Mark, no thanks to Dunkin Nonuts, unfortunately he's playing it too safe. At least the audience isn't stacked with lobbyist pallies other candidates we know. (cough) McC*nt!

And Hume can suck it dry.

Capt. Bat Hussein Guano @ 33:

"Smell that?, That desperation smell? I love the smell of desperation in the morning, it smells like victory." Brit Hume, my nominee for giant suck hole of the last 8 years.

then I guess that leaves KKKristol as the bootliKKKer of the last eight years.

Lara Logan was right!

StirFry @ 56:

Mark @ 27:

Why doesn't Obama say: so what if I was a Muslim? That's the real question. And why does the Obama campaign have a problem with head scarves in the shot behind their candidate? What are they afraid of? Of the right wing smear? Come on, grow a pair!

Mark, no thanks to Dunkin Nonuts, unfortunately he's playing it too safe. At least the audience isn't stacked with lobbyist pallies other candidates we know. (cough) McC*nt!

And Hume can suck it dry.

KKKristol will liKKK up what's left.

StirFry's picture

FauxTaint has a problem with smears, they should lay off the Olean.

Capt. Bat Hussein Guano @ 51:

Exotic Blue Lensman @ 36:

Capt. Bat Hussein Guano @ 33:

"Smell that?, That desperation smell? I love the smell of desperation in the morning, it smells like victory." Brit Hume, my nominee for giant suck hole of the last 8 years.

That is one sweet smell but I have a question: can you really "nominate" a suck hole? I thought you just kind of note it on your map and navigate accordingly.

Point made, point taken. I just like award shows, maybe we need to show case the worst of the media for a change.

HERE:
http://bigotsunitedformccain.blogspot.com/

Paul's picture

Fair and balanced? Fair and balanced may be an important criteria for gossip and opinion entertainment, but is irrelevant to news event reporting. Journalism requires that reporting be scrupulously honest and accurate. Journalism requires the airing of facts. Journalism operates to provide the information and context from which those who consume the product may conduct their own analyses and derive therefrom their own assessment of truth.

Fox does none of this. Fox is strictly in the business of manipulation. As manipulators, they are by definition unfair and unbalanced. And they are certainly not Journalists.

Rusty The Dap of Death Shackleford's picture

Since the "Michelle Obama bombshell video" turned out to be a dud (i.e., didn't exist), the FOXies have to try to generate some new racist smears. It's what they do.

Numinous's picture

osiris @ 18:

Sorry - the Fox blocker sit has changed. Go to www.engagdet.com and block these charlatans and liars from your life and living room today! Make a statement and block them where it hurts - along with all of their advertisers. The lists are out there - get busy and hit them in the pocketbook.

Site supervisor,

Please block this guy. He's sending spam for his idiotic electronic junk.

Jack Damage @ 38:

Hume has a lot more to apologize for than Just parroting some lie about Obama's religion allegedly said by his brother... Yea, he needs to apologize to the Obama family, but that is merely a very small beginning... How bout apologizing to the entire nation for being a empty headed shill for the Bush administration for the last eight years. How about apologizing to the institution of journalism and those journalists, (mostly international, not U.S. based sadly) whom have had to put up with him and his so called fair and balanced employer as they spent time trashing and tainting the entire journalist community and the whole concept of the fourth estate with his bullshit cheerleading of Bush's fascism light approach to ruining the United States and assorted other lies and Bush/Cheney supplied propaganda. And that still won't cover all the apologizing this prick needs to do... Fair and Balanced... yea... right, my ass... I got something fair and balanced for ya, ya little shit.... Fuck you Brit Hume... Fuck you and your boss Rupert!!!! JD

yeah! what HE said!

TakeOurCountryBack's picture

Twit Hume is a good example of what happens when corporations control the media. Twit and his Neo-Conservative friends engage in "fact free" diatribe praising the corporate agenda and bashing anything that speaks truth to power. They will have people on that disagree with them to make it appear that they are "fair & balanced", but those dissenters are always outnumbered and ganged up on so the corporate agenda can triumph in the end.

It's a lot easier to get a smear out there than it is to refute it afterward. Lies travel a lot faster than the truth!

BTW Twit always make me think of Herman Munster on downers
I'm just sayin'

Bud's picture

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 4:

Bud @ 2:

So why are we not talking about why Obama dropped out of the public financial system? Trying to hide something? I think the name crooks and LIARS applies here.

you mean, why is he not taking public matching funds??

and why arent you posting with your real name, address and phone number

do you have something to hide there troll boy??

Bud is my name. I'm a Hillary supporter duemass. And why aren't you replying to my question? The lies and flip flopping have started! We'll see what kind of person he really is. With Hillary it was all out in the open and not hidden. I knew there was something not right with him.

come on...tell us who you are

who pays you to troll on liberal blogs

xargaw's picture

The lies, particularly on FOX, will continue until some group with deep pockets starts filing legal action against these creeps and hits them in the wallet.

McCain the Liar's picture

Any fool who watches Fox should expect to be lied to and misled. They have opinions and lies for news, not facts. Nothing new here.

Old Billy Hussein's picture

American Native @ 43:

Why doens't crooks and liars report on Obama's just-named foreign policy panel? And don't give me that troll stuff. I hate both parties. They are dividing and conquering you all!

Was that William "the refrigerator" Perry?

I'd vote for the Fridge.

V for Vonnegut's picture

All I can say to Shit Fume & the Fux Nooze Nutwork is:

"Herr Goerbels vuhd be prrroud, baby".

("Baby?, Baby? Vass is mit dis 'Baby'?
Ze Furhrer never mentions, 'Baby"!!!!" - Franz Leipkin)

Paul @ 61:

Fair and balanced? Fair and balanced may be an important criteria for gossip and opinion entertainment, but is irrelevant to news event reporting. Journalism requires that reporting be scrupulously honest and accurate. Journalism requires the airing of facts. Journalism operates to provide the information and context from which those who consume the product may conduct their own analyses and derive therefrom their own assessment of truth.

Fox does none of this. Fox is strictly in the business of manipulation. As manipulators, they are by definition unfair and unbalanced. And they are certainly not Journalists.

and fux proved your point by winning a lawsuit which challenged them to tell the truth. they claimed to be infotainment and won. WTF.

Old Billy Hussein's picture

When will Brit Hume apologize to me for having such an enormous, ugly head?

Brit Hume owes the entire country an appology for all the lies he has spewed into political discourse in this nation. Don't hold your breath.

mroom's picture

The real tragedy here is the implication that being a Muslim is a bad thing.

Mark's picture

StirFry @ 28

Mark, no thanks to Dunkin Nonuts, unfortunately he’s playing it too safe. At least the audience isn’t stacked with lobbyist pallies other candidates we know. (cough) McC*nt!

You are absolutely right. America isn't going to change just because of Barack Obama, the people have to change (he'll tell you the same thing) So as long as Dunkin Donuts pulls ads because some view them as 'pro hamas/muslim', as long as we're making gay jokes as if that's an insult (I'm looking at you, Fred at 34), or dismiss people as 'not being real Americans (Mark @ 28) just because they might not share the same view, and as long as we're treating the right wing just like they've treated us for the last seven years, we're not going to change. Not really. So to all the Keith Obermanns out there: take chill pill, cause you're losing it! You're not adding to the debate we so desperately need to have!

Old Billy Hussein's picture

Bud @ 2:

So why are we not talking about why Obama dropped out of the public financial system? Trying to hide something? I think the name crooks and LIARS applies here.

You're so right. He should opt into public financing, take a loan out the funds from public financing as collateral, then try to pull out of public financing, and then attack his opponent for being honest about it in the first place.

xoites defends Constitution @ 73:

Brit Hume owes the entire country an appology for all the lies he has spewed into political discourse in this nation. Don't hold your breath.

My appologies to Jack Damage who said it far, far better than i:

Jack Damage @ 38:

Hume has a lot more to apologize for than Just parroting some lie about Obama's religion allegedly said by his brother... Yea, he needs to apologize to the Obama family, but that is merely a very small beginning... How bout apologizing to the entire nation for being a empty headed shill for the Bush administration for the last eight years. How about apologizing to the institution of journalism and those journalists, (mostly international, not U.S. based sadly) whom have had to put up with him and his so called fair and balanced employer as they spent time trashing and tainting the entire journalist community and the whole concept of the fourth estate with his bullshit cheerleading of Bush's fascism light approach to ruining the United States and assorted other lies and Bush/Cheney supplied propaganda. And that still won't cover all the apologizing this prick needs to do... Fair and Balanced... yea... right, my ass... I got something fair and balanced for ya, ya little shit.... Fuck you Brit Hume... Fuck you and your boss Rupert!!!! JD

Old Billy Hussein's picture

Old Billy Hussein @ 76:

Bud @ 2:

So why are we not talking about why Obama dropped out of the public financial system? Trying to hide something? I think the name crooks and LIARS applies here.

You're so right. He should opt into public financing, take a loan out the funds from public financing as collateral, then try to pull out of public financing, and then attack his opponent for being honest about it in the first place.

Oops, "take a loan out using the funds"

Obamamite's picture

come on, fox news owes the entire world an apology. but the only way it could be genuine is if they all shot themselves in the head after saying sorry.

Old Billy Hussein's picture

miss_kitty @ 41:

Fred @ 34:

Mark ,
Give Larry Craig a call before your flight tonite, something about a pre-flight meeting!

Fred, why do you think implying Mark is gay is an insult? Do you realize how bigoted that is? If not, do you have any gay friends you can ask about it?

Maybe he thinks implying that Mark is a closeted gay man who trolls public restrooms for sex with strangers is an insult.

Neo-classical secular humanist's picture

Communists, gays, liberals, libertarians, secular humanists, atheists, freethinkers, socialists . . . and now Muslims. The Repugs contempt and disdain for some of their fellow primates will move into high gear when they turn their anti-democratic/fascist minds to the two Obamas during the presidential campaign. It will be beyond the pale.

Old Billy Hussein's picture

Mark @ 75:

StirFry @ 28

Mark, no thanks to Dunkin Nonuts, unfortunately he’s playing it too safe. At least the audience isn’t stacked with lobbyist pallies other candidates we know. (cough) McC*nt!

You are absolutely right. America isn't going to change just because of Barack Obama, the people have to change (he'll tell you the same thing) So as long as Dunkin Donuts pulls ads because some view them as 'pro hamas/muslim', as long as we're making gay jokes as if that's an insult (I'm looking at you, Fred at 34), or dismiss people as 'not being real Americans (Mark @ 28) just because they might not share the same view, and as long as we're treating the right wing just like they've treated us for the last seven years, we're not going to change. Not really. So to all the Keith Obermanns out there: take chill pill, cause you're losing it! You're not adding to the debate we so desperately need to have!

yeah, the s means strikethrough. learned that the hard way myself. By the way, Mark, take it easy on Mark.

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StirFry @ 28

Mark, no thanks to Dunkin Nonuts, unfortunately he’s playing it too safe. At least the audience isn’t stacked with lobbyist pallies other candidates we know. (cough) McC*nt!

You are absolutely right. America isn’t going to change just because of Barack Obama, the people have to change (he’ll tell you the same thing) So as long as Dunkin Donuts pulls ads because some view them as ‘pro hamas/muslim’, as long as we’re making gay jokes as if that’s an insult (I’m looking at you, Fred at 34), or dismiss people as ‘not being real Americans (Lef&Left @ 28) just because they might not share the same view, and as long as we’re treating the right wing just like they’ve treated us for the last seven years, we’re not going to change. Not really. So to all the Keith Obermanns out there: take chill pill, cause you’re losing it! You’re not adding to the debate we so desperately need to have!

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Neo-classical secular humanist @ 81:

Communists, gays, liberals, libertarians, secular humanists, atheists, freethinkers, socialists . . . and now Muslims. The Repugs contempt and disdain for some of their fellow primates will move into high gear when they turn their anti-democratic/fascist minds to the two Obamas during the presidential campaign. It will be beyond the pale.

Don't forget the environmentalists and dirty f*cking hippies!

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my repost at 83 should clear things up. Didn't mean to use the strikethroughs

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Mark @ 85:

my repost at 83 should clear things up. Didn't mean to use the strikethroughs

durn html. I'm going back to fortran.

Mark @ 27:

Why doesn't Obama say: so what if I was a Muslim? That's the real question. And why does the Obama campaign have a problem with head scarves in the shot behind their candidate? What are they afraid of? Of the right wing smear? Come on, grow a pair!

When a fist bump is mentioned (if fleetingly) as a "Terrorist Fist Bump," when Barack Obama would be lying if he said he was ever a Muslim and yet you insist he was you have the audacity to ask why they would prefer not to have a woman in a Muslim headscarf sitting behind him during a speech?

Your question is laced with falsehoods and yet you do not even see them yourself.

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Mark @ 45:

Left&Left @ 27

Why don’t you “grow a pair” tough guy and deal with REAL MAN ISSUES that REAL AMERICANS really give a fuck about! You desperate trolls have absolutely nothing!

One thing that is dangerous I my view is Obama supporters sounding like the right wing nut jobs of the last seven years. I'm a Obama supporter. I'm proud to say I even shook his hand a few weeks ago. And no, I'm not a real American, I'm a Dutch immigrant. I love the movement, but people have to chill! Don't become what you've resented for seven years!

In this extremely important upcoming election I have never read a post by a true progressive who thought something like a head scarf and a half brother being a Muslim to be worthy topics. Obama's people should have never removed those women, just like he shouldn't have had to leave his church or wear a damn flag pin made in China. This is a SAD reflection of the intensely hypocritically bizarre scrutiny that Obama and his wife are constantly under while McBush III and his junkie wife get a free MSM pass.

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Old Billy Hussein @ 84:

Neo-classical secular humanist @ 81:

Communists, gays, liberals, libertarians, secular humanists, atheists, freethinkers, socialists . . . and now Muslims. The Repugs contempt and disdain for some of their fellow primates will move into high gear when they turn their anti-democratic/fascist minds to the two Obamas during the presidential campaign. It will be beyond the pale.

Don't forget the environmentalists and dirty f*cking hippies!

Don't forget educated, we're the "elite", after all

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Old Billy Hussein @ 80:

miss_kitty @ 41:

Fred @ 34:

Mark ,
Give Larry Craig a call before your flight tonite, something about a pre-flight meeting!

Fred, why do you think implying Mark is gay is an insult? Do you realize how bigoted that is? If not, do you have any gay friends you can ask about it?

Maybe he thinks implying that Mark is a closeted gay man who trolls public restrooms for sex with strangers is an insult.

I didn't read it that way at all. Even so, that in and of itself is bigoted. The reason people who are gay have to be closeted is due to rampant bigotry against their life condition, their innate way of being.

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Brit Hume paraphrased:

"Barack Obama muslim muslim muslim, blah blah, Obama, muslim kill whitey. Muslim muslim, terror; Obama muslim Judas Priest muslim muslim. Muslim Obama muslim headscarf muslim foreigner Hussein. Muslim Obama muslim Kelly Clarkson. Apple pie, McCain puppy dogs."

Old Billy Hussein @ 91:

Brit Hume paraphrased:

"Barack Obama muslim muslim muslim, blah blah, Obama, muslim kill whitey. Muslim muslim, terror; Obama muslim Judas Priest muslim muslim. Muslim Obama muslim headscarf muslim foreigner Hussein. Muslim Obama muslim Kelly Clarkson. Apple pie, McCain puppy dogs."

Pretty good but you left out "Saddam Barck Hussein" and "Obama Bin Laden."

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Old Billy Hussein @ 91:

Brit Hume paraphrased:

"Barack Obama muslim muslim muslim, blah blah, Obama, muslim kill whitey. Muslim muslim, terror; Obama muslim Judas Priest muslim muslim. Muslim Obama muslim headscarf muslim foreigner Hussein. Muslim Obama muslim Kelly Clarkson. Apple pie, McCain puppy dogs."

Judas Priest?

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xoites defends Constitution

When a fist bump is mentioned (if fleetingly) as a “Terrorist Fist Bump,” when Barack Obama would be lying if he said he was ever a Muslim and yet you insist he was you have the audacity to ask why they would prefer not to have a woman in a Muslim headscarf sitting behind him during a speech?

Your question is laced with falsehoods and yet you do not even see them yourself.

No, no, no, you don't understand what I'm saying. I know he's not a Muslim. I know I'm not gay. But what if he was a Muslim, what if I was gay?.....why do we keep using those terms as an insult? And yes, I am very upset they removed those women wearing headscarfs sitting behind him during a speech, I think that was extremely weak. I am also very upset Olbermann's is slowly turning into the left-wing version of Sean Hannity (without the distortions, I'll give him that, but he's not reporting anymore) That's what I'm saying. There's no real change unless we change it, Obama can't do it for us

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miss_kitty @ 90:

Old Billy Hussein @ 80:

miss_kitty @ 41:

Fred @ 34:

Fred, why do you think implying Mark is gay is an insult? Do you realize how bigoted that is? If not, do you have any gay friends you can ask about it?

Maybe he thinks implying that Mark is a closeted gay man who trolls public restrooms for sex with strangers is an insult.

I didn't read it that way at all. Even so, that in and of itself is bigoted. The reason people who are gay have to be closeted is due to rampant bigotry against their life condition, their innate way of being.

You're probably right, the Larry Craig story is a tragedy if you think of Craig as a human being. If you just think of him as a walking Republican tool, you could probably see the humor. (I know. I'm a terrible person.)

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Fanon @ 89:

Old Billy Hussein @ 84:

Neo-classical secular humanist @ 81:

Communists, gays, liberals, libertarians, secular humanists, atheists, freethinkers, socialists . . . and now Muslims. The Repugs contempt and disdain for some of their fellow primates will move into high gear when they turn their anti-democratic/fascist minds to the two Obamas during the presidential campaign. It will be beyond the pale.

Don't forget the environmentalists and dirty f*cking hippies!

Don't forget educated, we're the "elite", after all

You probably can't even bowl while crushing a Pabst can on your forehead, Mr. Harvard Q. Fancypants.

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Rusty The Dap of Death Shackleford @ 93:

Old Billy Hussein @ 91:

Brit Hume paraphrased:

"Barack Obama muslim muslim muslim, blah blah, Obama, muslim kill whitey. Muslim muslim, terror; Obama muslim Judas Priest muslim muslim. Muslim Obama muslim headscarf muslim foreigner Hussein. Muslim Obama muslim Kelly Clarkson. Apple pie, McCain puppy dogs."

Judas Priest?

Satanic death music. All the teenage kids are into it these days, and it scares the bejeezus out of me.

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Mark @ 94:

xoites defends Constitution

When a fist bump is mentioned (if fleetingly) as a “Terrorist Fist Bump,” when Barack Obama would be lying if he said he was ever a Muslim and yet you insist he was you have the audacity to ask why they would prefer not to have a woman in a Muslim headscarf sitting behind him during a speech?

Your question is laced with falsehoods and yet you do not even see them yourself.

No, no, no, you don't understand what I'm saying. I know he's not a Muslim. I know I'm not gay. But what if he was a Muslim, what if I was gay?.....why do we keep using those terms as an insult? And yes, I am very upset they removed those women wearing headscarfs sitting behind him during a speech, I think that was extremely weak. I am also very upset Olbermann's is slowly turning into the left-wing version of Sean Hannity (without the distortions, I'll give him that, but he's not reporting anymore) That's what I'm saying. There's no real change unless we change it, Obama can't do it for us

I agree about the prejudice against Muslims and gays. I agree that it is a shame they had to ask those women to sit elsewhere, but look at the smear machine. I disagree that Olbermann was ever a reporter. He is a commentator.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 87:

Mark @ 27:

Why doesn't Obama say: so what if I was a Muslim? That's the real question. And why does the Obama campaign have a problem with head scarves in the shot behind their candidate? What are they afraid of? Of the right wing smear? Come on, grow a pair!

When a fist bump is mentioned (if fleetingly) as a "Terrorist Fist Bump," when Barack Obama would be lying if he said he was ever a Muslim and yet you insist he was you have the audacity to ask why they would prefer not to have a woman in a Muslim headscarf sitting behind him during a speech?

Your question is laced with falsehoods and yet you do not even see them yourself.

Multiple Marks?

How many times does Terrorist Fist Bump need to be repeated before we can start writing TFB and people know what we are talking about? (BTW, IMHO 83 - LOL, JK!)

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Old Billy Hussein @ 97:

Rusty The Dap of Death Shackleford @ 93:

Old Billy Hussein @ 91:

Brit Hume paraphrased:

"Barack Obama muslim muslim muslim, blah blah, Obama, muslim kill whitey. Muslim muslim, terror; Obama muslim Judas Priest muslim muslim. Muslim Obama muslim headscarf muslim foreigner Hussein. Muslim Obama muslim Kelly Clarkson. Apple pie, McCain puppy dogs."

Judas Priest?

Satanic death music. All the teenage kids are into it these days, and it scares the bejeezus out of me.

Judas Priest is "satanic death music"?

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no, just one mark, learning how to post correctly on crooksandliars

Don's picture

#94: Olberman did some "reporting" last night. More of the McCain-Phil Gramm conncection, and in this case the "Enron loophole" history:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/19/countdown-mccain-oil-and-the-en...

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I'm sorry that you had to watch Hume two days in a row, John! You watch it so we don't have to :) Thanks!

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lilybelle @ 35:

How insulting and galling it must be for Muslim-Americans to hear their faith referred to as a smear, as in being tied to Islam is political death and therefore something to run from like a disease. I understand why Obama has to do this. I understand the politics, but boy are Muslims the new other. Does that mean the Repugs are kinda over the gay? If only they could find a gay Muslim.

i think that this muslim=smear thinking and obama's vehement protestations that he is not a muslim but a "dedicated christian" are very insulting indeed . . . the implication is that a muslim cannot be an upright, loyal american and that christianity is somehow a guarantee of moral fiber and patriotism . . . however, we know this to be untrue . . . christian-american leaders lie, cheat, steal, and betray the constitution on a daily basis . . . lord knows that gw's faith hasn't kept his administration from violating just about every code of law there is, whether moral, statutory, administrative or constitutional

in a secular state, the measure of a leader should be his/her words and deeds, not religious affiliation, but when obama returns the wingnut serve on this issue, he affirms that the religion ball is in play, and he helps to send the message to all americans that being a muslim is a very bad thing . . . thus, while it may not be the policy of his campaign to exclude hijab wearers from events, the campaign volunteer involved thought she had to keep anyone obviously muslim away from the candidate

this is why obama needs to apologize to those young women and stop distancing himself from islam . . . he needs to employ some of his extraordinary eloquence and charisma to lob a new message at the right wing, reminding us all of the separation of church and state and the dangers of choosing religious form over moral substance

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Fanon @ 100:

Old Billy Hussein @ 97:

Rusty The Dap of Death Shackleford @ 93:

Old Billy Hussein @ 91:
Judas Priest?

Satanic death music. All the teenage kids are into it these days, and it scares the bejeezus out of me.

Judas Priest is "satanic death music"?

If you play it really slowly you can hear monks chanting "do it. do it." And no earthly guitar could scream like that.

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Hume, with his giant facial wart, is nothing but a non-religious, lying, man-whore for Faux Noise.

innocent bystander @ 104:

lilybelle @ 35:

How insulting and galling it must be for Muslim-Americans to hear their faith referred to as a smear, as in being tied to Islam is political death and therefore something to run from like a disease. I understand why Obama has to do this. I understand the politics, but boy are Muslims the new other. Does that mean the Repugs are kinda over the gay? If only they could find a gay Muslim.

i think that this muslim=smear thinking and obama's vehement protestations that he is not a muslim but a "dedicated christian" are very insulting indeed . . . the implication is that a muslim cannot be an upright, loyal american and that christianity is somehow a guarantee of moral fiber and patriotism . . . however, we know this to be untrue . . . christian-american leaders lie, cheat, steal, and betray the constitution on a daily basis . . . lord knows that gw's faith hasn't kept his administration from violating just about every code of law there is, whether moral, statutory, administrative or constitutional

in a secular state, the measure of a leader should be his/her words and deeds, not religious affiliation, but when obama returns the wingnut serve on this issue, he affirms that the religion ball is in play, and he helps to send the message to all americans that being a muslim is a very bad thing . . . thus, while it may not be the policy of his campaign to exclude hijab wearers from events, the campaign volunteer involved thought she had to keep anyone obviously muslim away from the candidate

this is why obama needs to apologize to those young women and stop distancing himself from islam . . . he needs to employ some of his extraordinary eloquence and charisma to lob a new message at the right wing, reminding us all of the separation of church and state and the dangers of choosing religious form over moral substance

What you are suggesting is that if someone accusses me of being a Muslim i should just say i was even though i have never been one. I should lie in order to not insult Muslims and to feed the right wing smear machine. Sorry, but your logic escapes me.

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innocent bystander @ 104:

this is why obama needs to apologize to those young women and stop distancing himself from islam . . . he needs to employ some of his extraordinary eloquence and charisma to lob a new message at the right wing, reminding us all of the separation of church and state and the dangers of choosing religious form over moral substance

And while he's at it, he should really solve that North Korea/South Korea thing. He should end poverty and help the Cubs win the series. I could also use my pillow fluffed, and if he could get me a mojito, that would be great.

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LOL, John. He'll mention it in passing, justifying it as "someone else's fault" and they'll keep right on doing what they're doing.

These are not people who can be shamed into doing the right thing. Plus, it's not that Hume is any less biased than the other Fox retards, it's just that he's so comfortable being dishonest that he does it better than other people. He picks, EVERY SINGLE DAY, a handful of throwaway smears against Democrats that he "reports" on to cause the drip-drip affect on his dumber viewers. To make room for these underhanded smears, he downplays or ignores larger, more damaging stories against Republicans.

No, I'm not telling anyone anything they don't already know, but it felt like a good time for a refresher course in the smarmy Brit Hume partisan methodology.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 98

I disagree that Olbermann was ever a reporter. He is a commentator.

Then why is he anchoring election nights on MSNBC? The places where we can get real, unbiased news, real reporting, critical thinking, are dwindling. Left or right, the press is doing a lousy job. At least the people of North Korea know their news is a bunch of crap. Nobody is asking the very important question: why would it be a problem if we have a Muslim, gay, single, atheist, black, gay, female, or Hispanic President?

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Old Billy Hussein @ 108:

innocent bystander @ 104:

this is why obama needs to apologize to those young women and stop distancing himself from islam . . . he needs to employ some of his extraordinary eloquence and charisma to lob a new message at the right wing, reminding us all of the separation of church and state and the dangers of choosing religious form over moral substance

And while he's at it, he should really solve that North Korea/South Korea thing. He should end poverty and help the Cubs win the series. I could also use my pillow fluffed, and if he could get me a mojito, that would be great.

The Cubs winning the World Series should be at the top of Obama's list. Man, we'll tear the city down!

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Mark @ 110:

Nobody is asking the very important question: why would it be a problem if we have a Muslim, gay, single, atheist, black, gay, female, or Hispanic President?

I think you are missing the quintessential point that Obama is not, in fact, Muslim. The right is trying to define him, and he is trying to define himself.

If someone says I wear a toupee, I'm going to say, "No, I don't," not, "What's wrong with that?"

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Don @ 102:

#94: Olberman did some "reporting" last night. More of the McCain-Phil Gramm conncection, and in this case the "Enron loophole" history:

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/19/countdown-mccain-oil-and-the-enron-loophole/

yeah, that was pretty good coverage. it should be a seperate C&L topic.

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Old Billy Hussein, that last comment was hilarious! And up here in Canada we could use Obama's help too, we keep finding severed feet on our west coast beaches and that's a mystery he might be able to solve.

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This is the hilarious quote I meant from Old Billy Hussein: "And while he’s at it, he should really solve that North Korea/South Korea thing. He should end poverty and help the Cubs win the series. I could also use my pillow fluffed, and if he could get me a mojito, that would be great."

BaScOmBe against Bitter Elitist Appeasement Bullshit @ 60:

Capt. Bat Hussein Guano @ 51:

Exotic Blue Lensman @ 36:

Capt. Bat Hussein Guano @ 33:

That is one sweet smell but I have a question: can you really "nominate" a suck hole? I thought you just kind of note it on your map and navigate accordingly.

Point made, point taken. I just like award shows, maybe we need to show case the worst of the media for a change.

HERE:
http://bigotsunitedformccain.blogspot.com/

Thanks for the plug. My "Bitter Half" just pointed it out to me. :)

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Brit Hume couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it. Literally.

HB's picture

Some people refer to Brit Hume as a propagandist. That's too modest. He's a liar. Fox will never stop Hume from lying, because lying is their broadcast signature. Even if Hume were to issue a correction it would be done in a way that makes the original lie plausable. That's what they do. They lie.

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Old Billy Hussein @ 112


I think you are missing the quintessential point that Obama is not, in fact, Muslim. The right is trying to define him, and he is trying to define himself.

If someone says I wear a toupee, I’m going to say, “No, I don’t,” not, “What’s wrong with that?”

He needs to say both. Because it's being used as a scare tactic, insulting and demonizing millions of people. I want my President to invoke critical thinking, not dumbing down the masses to keep them happy. Might be risky politically, but I think he can do it.

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Old Billy Hussein @ 112

I think you are missing the quintessential point that Obama is not, in fact, Muslim. The right is trying to define him, and he is trying to define himself.
If someone says I wear a toupee, I’m going to say, “No, I don’t,” not, “What’s wrong with that?”

He needs to say both. Because it’s being used as a scare tactic, insulting and demonizing millions of people. I want my President to invoke critical thinking, not dumbing down the masses to keep them happy. Might be risky politically, but I think he can do it.

sorry about that last post

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one more try

Old Billy Hussein @ 112

I think you are missing the quintessential point that Obama is not, in fact, Muslim. The right is trying to define him, and he is trying to define himself.
If someone says I wear a toupee, I’m going to say, “No, I don’t,” not, “What’s wrong with that?”

He needs to say both. Because it’s being used as a scare tactic, insulting and demonizing millions of people. I want my President to invoke critical thinking, not dumbing down the masses to keep them happy. Might be risky politically, but I think he can do it.

Mark @ 121:

one more try

Old Billy Hussein @ 112

I think you are missing the quintessential point that Obama is not, in fact, Muslim. The right is trying to define him, and he is trying to define himself.
If someone says I wear a toupee, I’m going to say, “No, I don’t,” not, “What’s wrong with that?”

He needs to say both. Because it’s being used as a scare tactic, insulting and demonizing millions of people. I want my President to invoke critical thinking, not dumbing down the masses to keep them happy. Might be risky politically, but I think he can do it.

You're getting the hang of it! :)

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xoites defends Constitution @ 98:

Mark @ 94:

xoites defends Constitution

When a fist bump is mentioned (if fleetingly) as a “Terrorist Fist Bump,” when Barack Obama would be lying if he said he was ever a Muslim and yet you insist he was you have the audacity to ask why they would prefer not to have a woman in a Muslim headscarf sitting behind him during a speech?

Your question is laced with falsehoods and yet you do not even see them yourself.

No, no, no, you don't understand what I'm saying. I know he's not a Muslim. I know I'm not gay. But what if he was a Muslim, what if I was gay?.....why do we keep using those terms as an insult? And yes, I am very upset they removed those women wearing headscarfs sitting behind him during a speech, I think that was extremely weak. I am also very upset Olbermann's is slowly turning into the left-wing version of Sean Hannity (without the distortions, I'll give him that, but he's not reporting anymore) That's what I'm saying. There's no real change unless we change it, Obama can't do it for us

I agree about the prejudice against Muslims and gays. I agree that it is a shame they had to ask those women to sit elsewhere, but look at the smear machine. I disagree that Olbermann was ever a reporter. He is a commentator.

then could we excuse a business owner who refuses to hire workers of color because racist, white patrons will be driven off? the civil rights act says no

the measure of discrimination is not motivation but effect

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Mark@94 says...I am also very upset Olbermann’s is slowly turning into the left-wing version of Sean Hannity (without the distortions, I’ll give him that, but he’s not reporting anymore).

First of all the phase, without the distortions, tell the tale.
Second of all where else did you hear on the msm about Kucinich's articles of impeachment? Where else, on tv, did you learn of McCains big oil connections and his profit off them? Who else has laid it out there about the crimes of this administration WITHOUT THE DISTORTION?

innocent bystander @ 123:

xoites defends Constitution @ 98:

Mark @ 94:

xoites defends Constitution

When a fist bump is mentioned (if fleetingly) as a “Terrorist Fist Bump,” when Barack Obama would be lying if he said he was ever a Muslim and yet you insist he was you have the audacity to ask why they would prefer not to have a woman in a Muslim headscarf sitting behind him during a speech?

Your question is laced with falsehoods and yet you do not even see them yourself.

No, no, no, you don't understand what I'm saying. I know he's not a Muslim. I know I'm not gay. But what if he was a Muslim, what if I was gay?.....why do we keep using those terms as an insult? And yes, I am very upset they removed those women wearing headscarfs sitting behind him during a speech, I think that was extremely weak. I am also very upset Olbermann's is slowly turning into the left-wing version of Sean Hannity (without the distortions, I'll give him that, but he's not reporting anymore) That's what I'm saying. There's no real change unless we change it, Obama can't do it for us

I agree about the prejudice against Muslims and gays. I agree that it is a shame they had to ask those women to sit elsewhere, but look at the smear machine. I disagree that Olbermann was ever a reporter. He is a commentator.

then could we excuse a business owner who refuses to hire workers of color because racist, white patrons will be driven off? the civil rights act says no

the measure of discrimination is not motivation but effect

That is a real stretch. I think you would have a hard time taking that one into court. You know, i wonder if this story is true in the first place.

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Janet

First of all the phase, without the distortions, tell the tale.
Second of all where else did you hear on the msm about Kucinich’s articles of impeachment? Where else, on tv, did you learn of McCains big oil connections and his profit off them? Who else has laid it out there about the crimes of this administration WITHOUT THE DISTORTION?

I get your point.
I would point to Amy Goodman, who reports the news as is. I would also point to Lionel on Air America, who is a commentator, but cuts right to the core of things, and is not afraid to criticize Obama, even though he supports him. That's honesty. Keith brings up important things, but only to benefit Obama. He's becoming a left-wing tool. Just like Hannity is a right wing tool. Olbermann is not going to change things. Real reporting is. I hope that's coming back.

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Fair and balanced? Let's see. Dan Rather gets fired for reporting what is essentially the truth about Bush's background. Brit Hume reports a smear now known to be false. He keeps working with that permanent stick up his butt.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 107:

innocent bystander @ 104:

lilybelle @ 35:

How insulting and galling it must be for Muslim-Americans to hear their faith referred to as a smear, as in being tied to Islam is political death and therefore something to run from like a disease. I understand why Obama has to do this. I understand the politics, but boy are Muslims the new other. Does that mean the Repugs are kinda over the gay? If only they could find a gay Muslim.

i think that this muslim=smear thinking and obama's vehement protestations that he is not a muslim but a "dedicated christian" are very insulting indeed . . . the implication is that a muslim cannot be an upright, loyal american and that christianity is somehow a guarantee of moral fiber and patriotism . . . however, we know this to be untrue . . . christian-american leaders lie, cheat, steal, and betray the constitution on a daily basis . . . lord knows that gw's faith hasn't kept his administration from violating just about every code of law there is, whether moral, statutory, administrative or constitutional

in a secular state, the measure of a leader should be his/her words and deeds, not religious affiliation, but when obama returns the wingnut serve on this issue, he affirms that the religion ball is in play, and he helps to send the message to all americans that being a muslim is a very bad thing . . . thus, while it may not be the policy of his campaign to exclude hijab wearers from events, the campaign volunteer involved thought she had to keep anyone obviously muslim away from the candidate

this is why obama needs to apologize to those young women and stop distancing himself from islam . . . he needs to employ some of his extraordinary eloquence and charisma to lob a new message at the right wing, reminding us all of the separation of church and state and the dangers of choosing religious form over moral substance

What you are suggesting is that if someone accusses me of being a Muslim i should just say i was even though i have never been one. I should lie in order to not insult Muslims and to feed the right wing smear machine. Sorry, but your logic escapes me.

not at all . . . i am merely saying that, if you are seeking public office, you should deny the relevance of religious litmus tests with the same breath that you deny being a muslim, and given the pervasive demonization of muslims, you should refute the implication that being a mulsim is a bad thing

i am not just concerned with the offense to muslims here, though as an american who firmly believes in equality and dignity for all my fellow citizens, i am deeply disturbed by it . . . i am concerned about the ways in which our bigotry against muslims and arabs supports the policies of the neocons . . . we kill people with our minds before we kill them with our bombs, and i think that generations of killing arabs and muslims with our minds (i'm sure that, somewhere in the u.s., it is happening on a television set at this very moment!) made it very easy to preemptively bomb the crap out of iraq . . . and, i fear, it will soon make it very easy to preemptively bomb the crap out of iran

Perhaps the best suggestion for Obama at this point would be that he give a major speech about religous diversity in America to a Muslim audience.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 129:

Perhaps the best suggestion for Obama at this point would be that he give a major speech about religous diversity in America to a Muslim audience.

excellent idea . . . but may i suggest a religiously diverse audience?

Reich-wingers....are you proud of your propaganda station? Sadly, you probably are.

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Mark @ 126:

Janet

First of all the phase, without the distortions, tell the tale.
Second of all where else did you hear on the msm about Kucinich’s articles of impeachment? Where else, on tv, did you learn of McCains big oil connections and his profit off them? Who else has laid it out there about the crimes of this administration WITHOUT THE DISTORTION?

I get your point.
I would point to Amy Goodman, who reports the news as is. I would also point to Lionel on Air America, who is a commentator, but cuts right to the core of things, and is not afraid to criticize Obama, even though he supports him. That's honesty. Keith brings up important things, but only to benefit Obama. He's becoming a left-wing tool. Just like Hannity is a right wing tool. Olbermann is not going to change things. Real reporting is. I hope that's coming back.

Keith has been giving his special comments before Obama was even a candidate. He brings up the torture issue, bush cronyism, the shredding of the constitution, war crimes and too many other things to name that have nothing to do with Obama. I do watch Countdown almost every night and I have heard him criticize Obama.

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gawd @ 127:

Fair and balanced? Let's see. Dan Rather gets fired for reporting what is essentially the truth about Bush's background. Brit Hume reports a smear now known to be false. He keeps working with that permanent stick up his butt.

As Superintendent Chalmers said about Seymour Skinner, "I swear the the stick up that man's butt has a stick up it's butt!"

I'm getting sick of this religious nunsense.

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Brit Hume only demonstrates what a journalistic hack he is. Fair and balanced reporting, my derriere. Murdoch gave the the talking points via his memo what FOX has planned to do to Mr. Obama. Issued everyday, those talking points have not changed. So what else will Brit Hume do other than that?

Someone would have to check Hume's temperature if he did do anything different other than the prescribed course of action.

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Old Billy Hussein @ 108:

innocent bystander @ 104:

this is why obama needs to apologize to those young women and stop distancing himself from islam . . . he needs to employ some of his extraordinary eloquence and charisma to lob a new message at the right wing, reminding us all of the separation of church and state and the dangers of choosing religious form over moral substance

And while he's at it, he should really solve that North Korea/South Korea thing. He should end poverty and help the Cubs win the series. I could also use my pillow fluffed, and if he could get me a mojito, that would be great.

I would like for him to get rid of my beer belly, AND do something about my bald ass head!

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"innocent bystander" wants Obama to stand up for Muslims but he's already standing up for Black people! The very act of a Black man becoming the US President is highly significant and will do more for the underdog than anything else. It's enough.

innocent bystander @ 130:

xoites defends Constitution @ 129:

Perhaps the best suggestion for Obama at this point would be that he give a major speech about religous diversity in America to a Muslim audience.

excellent idea . . . but may i suggest a religiously diverse audience?

I agree. I think you could articulate your concerns better than i could. Why don't you call the Obama Campaign and suggest this?

(866) 675-2008

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Btw in the case of the young Muslim ladies: it was wrong to not let them sit in their seats behind Mr. Obama. And yes, I agree with everyone else that Mr. Obama is in a rock and a hard place. What he needs to do is to stand up to these stupid folks who believe all the lies about him and the Muslim religion.

Just like he gave a speech about race, he ought to give one about religion. Furthermore, he should get over his fear and just take the bull by the horns on this one. He should openly tell the public that he will not back down to religious bigots and zealots who attempt to demean every other religious than their fundamentalist own.

As a Constitutional scholar, he should emphasize that there is a separation between church and state in this country. Or else, we would be in a Taliban-like situation of our own. And then, he should further emphasize that with Bush's (and McCain's) policies, we are nearly almost there.

So, it's time to turn the table on these fundies and flick this nonsense off like it was nothing.

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Janet @ 132

Keith has been giving his special comments before Obama was even a candidate. He brings up the torture issue, bush cronyism, the shredding of the constitution, war crimes and too many other things to name that have nothing to do with Obama. I do watch Countdown almost every night and I have heard him criticize Obama.

And I loved his special comments criticizing Bush and his actions. But he lost it during the Democratic election season, I think. He let his support of Obama dominate his show. Look at all the guests he has on. Always the same folks. And we scold Fox for having on too many conservatives? Where's the balance on Olbermann's show? I agree with his politics, not with his journalism ethics lately. If he really goes after the Obama campaign for removing those muslim women, I'll be impressed. Bad for Obama, but he can handle it. He doesn't need Olbermann to carry his water for him. Olbermann is 'on our side', as some put it. Great, more reason to be critical.

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Barbara in BC @ 136:

"innocent bystander" wants Obama to stand up for Muslims but he's already standing up for Black people! The very act of a Black man becoming the US President is highly significant and will do more for the underdog than anything else. It's enough.

so tough titty for muslims, eh? it's not like obama is running to be president of the whole united states

Mark @ 139:

Janet @ 132

Keith has been giving his special comments before Obama was even a candidate. He brings up the torture issue, bush cronyism, the shredding of the constitution, war crimes and too many other things to name that have nothing to do with Obama. I do watch Countdown almost every night and I have heard him criticize Obama.

And I loved his special comments criticizing Bush and his actions. But he lost it during the Democratic election season, I think. He let his support of Obama dominate his show. Look at all the guests he has on. Always the same folks. And we scold Fox for having on too many conservatives? Where's the balance on Olbermann's show? I agree with his politics, not with his journalism ethics lately. If he really goes after the Obama campaign for removing those muslim women, I'll be impressed. Bad for Obama, but he can handle it. He doesn't need Olbermann to carry his water for him. Olbermann is 'on our side', as some put it. Great, more reason to be critical.

Balance? Has Olbermann ever once claimed to be impartial? He is not a journalist, stop saying he is. Look at the networks. When they were screaming for war who did they ALL have on? The same crew of criminals shilling for Bush. Not one intelligent opponent. Now you want to lambaste Olbermann for fighting against all the lies and propaganda in the Corporate Media because he is not inviting liars onto his show?

Give me a break!

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Barbara in BC @ 136:

"innocent bystander" wants Obama to stand up for Muslims but he's already standing up for Black people! The very act of a Black man becoming the US President is highly significant and will do more for the underdog than anything else. It's enough.

so tough titty for muslims, eh? it's not like obama is running to be president of the whole united states

I gave you a phone number. You want Obama to fight for Muslims. Why don'tyou fight for them and call his campaign and request he do as you suggested above? All you have to do is make a phone call. Why wait?

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innocent bystander: Muslims are demonized every day by your current president - how 'bout writing him a letter of complaint about it? While Obama's running for President he's being careful not to be backed into a corner by the slimy opposition, which is wise.

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liberalDAPJIHADISTmoderation @ 135:

Old Billy Hussein @ 108:

innocent bystander @ 104:

this is why obama needs to apologize to those young women and stop distancing himself from islam . . . he needs to employ some of his extraordinary eloquence and charisma to lob a new message at the right wing, reminding us all of the separation of church and state and the dangers of choosing religious form over moral substance

And while he's at it, he should really solve that North Korea/South Korea thing. He should end poverty and help the Cubs win the series. I could also use my pillow fluffed, and if he could get me a mojito, that would be great.

I would like for him to get rid of my beer belly, AND do something about my bald ass head!

Is your ass bald, or your head?

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Ace Armstrong @ 6:

Brit Hume is the sadist man on TV.

I think you meant to type "saddest" but sadist works too.
Well done.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 142:

innocent bystander @ 140:

Barbara in BC @ 136:

"innocent bystander" wants Obama to stand up for Muslims but he's already standing up for Black people! The very act of a Black man becoming the US President is highly significant and will do more for the underdog than anything else. It's enough.

so tough titty for muslims, eh? it's not like obama is running to be president of the whole united states

I gave you a phone number. You want Obama to fight for Muslims. Why don'tyou fight for them and call his campaign and request he do as you suggested above? All you have to do is make a phone call. Why wait?

alas, i tried, but no one is answering and their voice message system is full . . . not giving up though!

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I would sure like to see the Obama campaign start responding to these "smears" by incorporating the fact that the opposition's attempt to lie about the issue not only exposes their dishonesty, but also their bigotry. That Obama would certainly not attempt to hid it if he was a Muslim, because being a Muslim should not be a disqualifying factor any more than being a Christian, Jew, Athiest, Buddhist, Hindu, or Wiccan should be. That attempting to make an issue of religion in this race is not only bigoted, but it is an affront to our Constitution. That not only is this line of attack unconstitutionally bigoted, but it is also typically dishonest and divisive in the pattern that has become the Republican trademark in campaigns for decades.

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xoites defends Constitution @ 129:

Perhaps the best suggestion for Obama at this point would be that he give a major speech about religous diversity in America to a Muslim audience.

Great idea X. I'll call Obama's office here in Chicago too with your suggestion. It'll give Obama time to concentrate on the important issues concerning Americans until the next bullshit "scandal" is concocted

innocent bystander @ 146:

xoites defends Constitution @ 142:

innocent bystander @ 140:

Barbara in BC @ 136:

so tough titty for muslims, eh? it's not like obama is running to be president of the whole united states

I gave you a phone number. You want Obama to fight for Muslims. Why don'tyou fight for them and call his campaign and request he do as you suggested above? All you have to do is make a phone call. Why wait?

alas, i tried, but no one is answering and their voice message system is full . . . not giving up though!

People in the thread above are getting through concerning the FISA bill. try option 6 after you get through.

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Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 3:

now this will be repeated ad nauseum on the wingnut talk shows

brit hume is no longer a journalist

he is a whore

Was he ever a journalist?

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