Yesterday we had an explosion of reactions from members of Congress and from our Blue America-endorsed candidates regarding what many people feel is a betrayal by House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer. I know that John would never brag about it but when Hoyer was fighting for the Majority Leader job, John was the loudest voice on the Internet in opposition, predicting... well, just the kind of thing that happened yesterday. Hit that link and read why respected congressional legal minds like Jerrold Nadler, Tom Allen Russ Feingold, and Chris Dodd are saying no to Hoyer's compromise capitulation. When I was in DC recently I ran into Rep. Peter Welch (D-VT) and I congratulated him on finding a very nasty little loophole the Bush Regime had somehow inserted in some legislation when no one was looking. He beamed and was happy that someone knew about his efforts... and then told me his re-election was in jeopardy and asked for help from our PAC. "Congressman Welch," I said politely, you can't be in jeopardy when the Republicans can't even find a third-tier candidate to run against you." He laughed. He wasn't laughing today, though, when he explained why he would vote against the Hoyer-Bush plan to do grave violence to the Constitution:
“I simply do not believe any president, especially this president, should have unilateral or unchecked authority to conduct surveillance without judicial oversight. Congress has an obligation to protect our national security without sacrificing basic rights provided in our Constitution. “While this compromise reflects improvements over previous flawed proposals, it is a compromise I will not support. I have consistently opposed any legislation that grants retroactive immunity for telecommunication companies that cooperated with the Bush administration’s warrantless wiretapping. Regrettably, this latest proposal fails to hold the administration and the companies accountable for their actions. The American people deserve to know exactly what happened and they deserve to know who is accountable. This bill fails that test."
Very polite but very much to the point. Peter Welch stands with the people of Vermont and the people of the United States, not with Bush, Hoyer and their big criminal campaign donors. Another member, who has asked to remain anonymous, for obvious reasons, just said this: "Steny Hoyer is the best friend money can buy." We'll see all the competition for the best friends money can buy during the vote today.
UPDATE: Blue America's John Hall speaks out against FISA:
I have consistently supported modernizing the existing FISA law to give our government the tools it needs to identify and defeat terrorists in today's high-tech world, while at the same time preserving the freedoms and rights that define America. I have voted three times to pass legislation that would strengthen and modernize FISA and reaffirm the rule of law. Despite some improvements over previous attempts to update FISA, the bill considered by the House today regrettably falls short of achieving that critical balance. The rule of law lies at the core of America's founding principles, and the language in this bill was too weak to ensure that any breach of our laws that may have occurred under the warrantless wiretapping program will be fully addressed. It is not appropriate to deny Americans the right to pursue these matters in court, or to short-circuit the judicial review that lies at the heart of our system of checks and balances, which is the bedrock of our Constitution. Accordingly, I voted against this bill.
This bill has zero chance in the Senate. Thank you Sen Feingold et al.
That's my congresscritter! thanks Mr Welch
first?
This bill better be defeated in the Senate! I am tired of our freedoms being pissed away.
Obama, Dodd, and Feingold...save us all from satan's power so we shan't go astray!!!
What Rep Peter D. Welch said!!!! About time someone was this concise... This bill absolutely fails this test!
There is about a 50/50 split of parties in the Senate. Fat chance that it will fail.
Pelosi is ultimately responsible for this disaster. She is a Bush protector and enabler. The first female Speaker...yeah, right...BFD.
thank you and praise to all those in the house
who voted against this criminal bill and
FUCK ALL THOSE WHO VOTED FOR IT.
this administration is always three steps ahead of everyone else.......secrecy and signing statements....they are NEOCONS with an agenda.....they will cheat, lie,strong arm and have an unfair advantage at all times........the legislative branch has treid to warn us....they are being out maneuvered on every move especially related to the occupation........how...all possible moves were preidentitfied/ opposed before the they occurred.
CNN just said it's suppose to pass. grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
casper46 @ 9:
Take that grrrrrrrrrrrrrr and hit the streets! The American people don't want this bill, Eff the idiots who think they're in power.
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Q U E S T I O N:
Is it TREASON to undo the Constitution?
Is it TREASON to undermine the Republic?
Is it TREASON to VIOLATE the Oath to support and defend our Rights and FREEDOMS?
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Steny Hoyer is up for reelection in 2008. Let take him out.
Steny Hoyer FISA Ad To Run in Washington Post
http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/steny-hoyer-fisa-ad-to-run-in-washington-post/
Lollimom @ 6:
Pelosi fills TWO bills..
The First woman Speaker adn...
The W(orst) woman Speaker!
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john yoo.. the constitution is below nation security...you can thank him and addington for some of this shit
OT but WOW! Supplies FINALLY made it to New Orleans for Katrina.
I just finished reading MattTaibbi's book, "Smells Like Dead Elephants" among other things he tells how the House worked in 2005 and 2006. He tells you how the backroom deals are made and so much more. Of course during that time the Repubs held the House and some of that time Delay was in charge. It makes you sick to your stomach to see the sorts of wheeling and dealing and money that was exchanged.
By the way, it's a hell of a book! He's also a hell of a writer. Funny at times and intense as hell at times.
Sadly today it appears some of these things continue, no matter which party has the reins.
I have a little hope that this will die in Congress, but the past actions gives me less hope than I would like to have.
There is too many democrats in Congress that will follow Pelosi and vote yea:
Boxer
Feinstein
Webb
and Lieberman (I)
Hoyer is an enemy of the Constitution.
Here's my question, do they know something that we do not? Why would they cave like this if money wasn't involved? How much telecom money went to Hoyer for his last campaign and how much has been promised to him for his next one?
harley @ 18:
You're wrong about Boxer. All the others you're right. But you're wrong about Boxer.
She ain't no saint, But she has voted against this in the past.
Yeah casper, I can't believe those supplies sat around for two years in warehouses without FEMA knowing it. Would it be different if the supplies were intended for an affluent area? It seems to me that FEMA just doesn't care about the poor and downtrodden. Especially those who don't seem to have a voice.
Follow the money. Forget the parties and colors:
>The Carlyle Group is a global private equity investment firm, based in Washington, D.C., with more than $81.1 billion of equity capital under management.
>Meet The Carlyle Group
Former World Leaders and Washington Insiders Making Billions in the War on Terrorism
>Carlyle only tells the public what it wants. In a radio interview, McKinney accused the Bush administration of 'serving the interests' of Carlyle and said that 'persons close to this administration are poised to make huge profits off America's new war'.
>Carlyle's prior telecom investments have included positions in Northpoint Communications, Teligent, Inc., Global Crossing, and Nextel Communications. Additionally, Carlyle's principals include current and former senior managers and directors of major telecommunications companies including MCI Communications, Nortel Networks and Bell Atlantic.
>Former Verizon Strategy and Development Chief, James Attwood, to Join the Carlyle Group as Managing Director in Telecommunications and Media
>In 2005, Verizon sold off GTE's former telephone operations in Hawaii to The Carlyle Group
the sale of Verizon Hawaii to The Carlyle Group for $1.65 billion in cash.
>Carlyle Group Hires Its First In-House Lobbyist
Marchick, a former Clinton administration official, will advise Carlyle on regulatory issues
Marchick is vice chairman of Covington's international trade and finance practice group and is a senior adviser to Kissinger McLarty Associates. A Carlyle spokesman declined to comment.
Mega-dollars can BUY ANY COLOR it wants, whenever it wants. You want immunity? Just take it out of "petty" cash.
pissed off patricia @ 20:
I read somewhere else that some of these Reps. were in on this whole spying shit and were just covering their own asses.
Take with grain of salt.
mudshark @ 21:
Opps, I meant Bayh.
Edwards is out on medical leave.
Not enough Democrats to defeat it. All the Reps will vote yea down the line.
Pelosi + Hoyer + Reid = Lieberman
Hoyer is public enemy #1. We need to hold him up as an example to other Bush dog democrats that don't understand the consequences of selling out American freedom to corporate campaign lobbyists.
Steny ad to run in WaPo.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/06/20/steny-hoyer-fisa-ad-to-run-in-washingt...
harley @ 25:
I think Bayh voted against it too. Edwards is no longer in the Senate.
al @ 23:
George Bush I is a consultant to the Caryle group.
P.D. @ 22:
I was watching the news last night and had a piece on the levees at East St. Louis, Ill. I still predict if they get breached, it will be exactly like Katrina. Mostly black and heavily Democratic.
mudshark @ 28:
Bayh has been a consistent: Bayh (D-IN), Yea
pete @ 19:
Hoyer commits TREASON to the Republic.
Are WE safer for this...?
Are WE stronger for this...?
Are WE more secure because of this...?
The Fourth Amendment of the Constitution is a pact set up by the Founders of the Nation as part of the Bill of Rights FOR THE PEOPLE.
The Federal Constitution was ratified ONLY when the entire Bill of Rights was included to grant safeguards for the People and to limit the Government's encroachment into personal Liberties and Freedoms.
Today, members of CONgress seek to undo those safeguards to Liberty and Freedom.
Are we safer from a government that seeks to spy on us when they are allowed to spy on us with immunity and impunity?
America was established to be a bastion of Liberty and Freedom. A Nation ruled by laws and NOT by men, money, and mayhem.
America was established to be FREE from TYRANNY! Yet today, THEY(sic) HATE OUR FREEDOMS... and seek to undo those Bills of Rights to Freedom.
The Body of Congress is engaging in TREASON!
They MUST be held accountable. Their votes on record ARE the evidence of TREASON.
How are THEY(sic) supporting and defending the Constitution when they seek to undermine that Constitution?
T R E A S O N!
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harley @ 31:
I'll take your word for it harley,but I'll look into this at a later date. I've got a doctors appointment . Oh I gotta ask. Did you name your dog harley?
Here is the stats from S2248 the last FISA bill votes that Pelosi said would be overturned later.
YEAs ---68
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burr (R-NC)
Carper (D-DE)
Casey (D-PA)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Craig (R-ID)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Domenici (R-NM)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Inouye (D-HI)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kohl (D-WI)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McCaskill (D-MO)
McConnell (R-KY)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Roberts (R-KS)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Sununu (R-NH)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Webb (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wicker (R-MS)
NAYs ---29
Akaka (D-HI)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Tester (D-MT)
Wyden (D-OR)
Not Voting - 3
Clinton (D-NY)
Graham (R-SC)
Obama (D-IL)
mudshark @ 33:
Harley is my cat.
al @ 23:
Keep your head down, al - speaking plainly can be hazardous to your health.
harley @ 35:
Thanks for posting the vote tally. A friend om mine, his son has a dog named harley. Just a shot in the dark. Have a great day.
Sachem @ 1:
Didn't this already go through the Senate? We're talking HR 3773 right? That already passed in the Senate: [GovTrack]. Or does it need to go back to the Senate because the House modified it?
Of course I'm glad Mr. Welch voted in favor of the Constitution today but I haven't seen him doing enough hard fighting to stop this kind of nonsense the past 18 months. He needs to prove himself by doing more then just offering a no vote on the House Floor to get my vote. And as far as him not having to worry about a Republican challenger I'd like to remind Howie that this IS Vermont, we aren't slaves to a 2 party system here! He has been doing good on the voting record THIS year but it is an election year. He made some rather questionable votes in 2007 including voting for the sham of a resolution against MoveOn for the Be-Tray-US ad and the sham of a resolution against Iran. Then add to that that he's been against moving forward on Impeachment. These are all big issues to some of us. Some one like Mr. Welch who thinks exposing liars in the militaries top ranks is bad, war with Iran is OK and holding criminals accountable is bad doesn't represent most Vermonters! And Representing the constituents IS what Representatives are supposed to do! Although Mr. Welch may be a freshman Congressman he's been working harder at ingratuating himself to the beltway insider crowd then he has on bringing the troops home from Iraq and holding those responsible for that illegal occupation accountable!
Embittered-Max-Hussein-1 @ 11:
Yes... Duh
E in MD @ 38:
3773 was just a patch job.
will this bill/law be challenged in the courts as the Habeas was? After all, it does go against the Constitutional statement against retroactive laws and the 4th amendment.
pissed off patricia @ 20:
Take a step back and think about this; the Government engaged in warrantless wiretapping of American citizens. I can tell you right now; they didn't learn a damn thing about me. I'm much too small of a peon to worry about. A Congressman or a Senator; however, always has a great deal of skeletons hanging in the closet. Maybe they are secretly gay; maybe their marriage is in trouble; maybe they made some business deals with some rather unscrupulous people. What ever it is; the White House knows thanks to the warrantless wiretapping program. How many people in Congress are being blackmailed. I think if we look at the vote on this bill that it will give us a pretty acurate count.
E in MD @ 38:
New bill will be S.2557 or S.2665 depending which one they take up. Will know next week.
I know exactly what happened and who is responsible. Congress took away my privacy, and the democratic leadership is at fault. This is nothing more or less than weakness.
I just donated $100 to Cindy Sheehan and called Pelosi's office to let them know about it. I told them I now consider Nancy Pelosi part of the Bush Administration and will be acting accordingly. Suggest we all do the same.
OBAMA - no vote. WHY???????
It’s not just the FISA episode, all sorts of ’stuff’ is now being
added to legislation to spy on everyone…..amazingly Dick Armey is championing American privacy rights….. curiouser & curiouser……..
The Senate mortgage bill proposed by Sen. Chris Dodd (who was the recipient of a sweetheart deal on his mortgage from Countrywide, one of the beneficiaries of the bill) includes an attempt to sneak into law a requirement that all electronic payment processors send detailed transaction data to the federal government. The proposed law contains an exception for people with less than 200 transactions or a total value less than $10,000.
Quoting FreedomWorks chairman Dick Armey (former House majority leader) from the article: ‘This is a provision with astonishing reach, and it was slipped into the bill just this week. Not only does it affect nearly every credit card transaction in America, such as Visa, MasterCard, Discover, and American Express, but the bill specifically targets payment systems like eBay’s PayPal, Amazon, and Google Checkout that are used by many small online businesses. The privacy implications for America’s small businesses are breathtaking.’”
I like pie @ 43:
If there was no wrongdoing on the D's parts, then there'd be nothing to blackmail them with!
Dr. Acula @ 48:
Nancy Pelosi was in on what BushCo was doing. She was invited to secret meetings divulging certain activities that are now known to be war crimes, with torture among them.
By protecting BushCo, Pelosi is protecting her own ass. As I have said here before, she has pardoned Bush of all past/future crimes. In doing so, she pardons herself. Very few people want to dwell on this, yet nobody can understand her "off the table" bullshit. Is she doing it out of kindness, out of not wanting the nation to suffer? Or is there something else she doesn't want to talk about?
It stinks to high heaven.
I like pie @ 43:
Yep, I thought of those things too. There has to be some reason they would cave like this after holding strong for so long. There almost had to be a threat somewhere.
In my shiny tinfoil hat, I wondered if they were told something really bad was going to happen if they didn't pass this and then it would be blamed on the dems for not allowing wiretapping to prevent it. Even though, from what I hear, wiretapping has been going right on along while this was being debated.
Kathy @ 42:
Read Article 3 of the Constitution. Specifically, the part where Congress can remove a type of case from the jurisdiction of the Federal Courts. You are absolutely right about this law violating the Ex Post Facto clause as well as the implied right to privacy. Unfortunately, this kind of case is being removed from the jurisdiction of the Federal Courts.
All is not lost. Congress does not have the authority to remove it from the jurisdiction of a state court. The next step is to amend state constitutions to include a right of privacy and a right to not be subjected to warrantless searches. The really amusing part of this is that the state court decisions cannot be appealled to the Federal Courts.
Dr. Acula @ 48:
Maybe Pelosi was involved in some secret sex parties?
You never know with these sell outs!
Way to go Pelosi!
Took impeachment off the table and went straight to bed with Bush it seems...
pissed off patricia @ 50:
Everytime that I start to think that I am turning into a conspiracy nut-job; the Bush Administration proves me right. I don't even bother with the tinfoil anynore. I can't afford that stuff anymore, anyways. Things are getting so expensive. I think that the bad thing that is going to happen is personal. I bet the Feds have recordings of half the Democrats accepting bribes or solicting gay prostitutes.
FunMe @ 52:
I believe some of her in-laws are big GOP donors.
But what were you expecting from some wealthy socialite? She needs to make sure those pesky protesters don't make a fuzz off her estate in SF again. You now the plebe this days... with their uppity demands...
FNORD @ 53:
She took that strap-on and ... never mind. I won't go into it. Probably make somebody puke all over their keyboard.
The House has passed the FISA bill. :-(
We now have further proof that there are very few Progressives in Congress. The Demos in the House just reinforced the DemocRat Party moniker.
We can see the other breeds of Demos that will populate the Congress in 2009. There will be the Corporate DLC old guard Demos. Lobbyist, pollsters, and K-street will be so pleased.
And there will be the Blue Dogs which are moderate Repubs that couldn't win their Repub primaries. They will the new Liebermans of the House, playing both sides to get what they want for their own local politics.
We will have many happy years blogging our discontent with the forces against the Progressive cause.
Dr. Acula @ 46:
Because Obama is in the SENATE... not in the HOUSE. Pay attention.
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Corporatocracy
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Screw all these a-holes that voted for this bill in the house today. You will be dealt with accordingly when it comes to election time. How dare you foolish jerks even think after we said to you no so many times on this bill that we will ever support any of you ever again after caving in to this travesty of the american way of life? You should all be ashamed, we are of you that's for sure. The clock is ticking down to election day, always keep that in mind.
Also isn't it time we asked Nancy Pelosi to step down and get out of bed with George Bush and Dick Cheney?
in the next congress, pelossi, reed and hoyer all need to lose their leadership positions
in my entire life, i have never seen a lame duck president treated with such kid gloves
this fear of terrorism is bullshit
the patriot act has been used to go after the little guy
the warentless wiretaps have allowed the gov to eavesdrop on you and me
the gov no longer works for the people
the corporate takeover is complete
the star wars saga is not just a film....it is reality
the sith lords control the congress
Mr. Welch voted in favor of the House Resolution labeling the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps as a terrorist organization. Can he show me any hard evidence to justify that vote? If he can I'd be more inclined to vote for him. And "Nancy told me to." doesn't count!
JT @ 61:
Ménage à trois?
56 I like pie
Fish pie?
E in MD @ 58:
Damnit - that's embarrassing. I know that, but I saw a listing online showing Obama, Clinton and someone else not voting.
ysbaddaden @ 65:
ysbaddaden @ 65:
Hair pie?
He (Peter Welch D-VT) beamed and was happy that someone knew about his efforts… and then told me his re-election was in jeopardy and asked for help from our PAC. “Congressman Welch,” I said politely, you can’t be in jeopardy when the Republicans can’t even find a third-tier candidate to run against you.” He laughed.
"his re-election was in jeopardy" because we Vermonters who elected him are sick of his dancing around impeachment and have threatened to run someone against him. It is not the Republicans that are his problem, but we Progressives and progressive Democrats who want him to DO SOMETHING to stop the war. As a Rep he is more than good, but too beholden to Pelosi. And as a Democrat, like the others he needs to grow a spine. But he is improving.
Once the supreme court overrode our constitutional election process and the american people didn't rise up I say this is EXACTLY what the american people deserve.
Ladies and Gentlemen, I regret to inform you that Mr. Obama has decided to support this bill, citing the grave threats we face.
Thank you Peter Welch! I am glad to be a Vermonter!
goobergrape @ 70:
do you have a link...or do you just get a hardon when you act like a fucking retard on the internets
ysbaddaden @ 64:
More like Menagerie Atrocity, with two jackals boinking a happily submissive sheep.
Dr. Acula @ 66:
See harley @34: You were right to begin with, Doc. That listing is of the vote on a ~Senate~ bill. S2248 Clinton, Obama and Graham did not vote. They're ALL senators. (:>
Hey! That's MY Rep!
Finally, Welch does the right thing.
Now if he'd only co-sponsor the Impeachment articles by Rep Kucinich!
I called his office that day after Kucinich introduced the articles of impeachment, and they said, "Would you like the congressman to respond?" I said, "Co-sponsoring the articles of Impeachment is all the repsonse I need from my congressman."
Peter Welch's problem is one of respect. He had a lot of it when he was elected to Congress because he was going to fight to stop the illegal occupation of Iraq and fight to hold the bush administration accountable. Then he lost that respect by voting in favor of supplemental spending bills for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan(he has learned his lesson there after recieving lots of sternly worder letters) and jumping on the Pelosi"Impeachment is off the table" bandwagon. Respect is hard to get back once you've had it and then lost it. He could get some back by signing onto Kucinich's Resolution for Impeachment. He could get even more by actually fighting hard for that Resolution. He could have got a shit load of respect back in Vermont this morning if he'd pulled out a baseball bat and gone after steny hoyer screaming "you filthy vile bastard!". (site-monitor, I'm not advocating such behavior, just saying what's true.) Hell we'd make him Representative For Life for something like that!
goobergrape @ 70 Says: Ladies and Gentlemen, I regret to inform you that Mr. Obama has decided to support this bill, citing the grave threats we face.
So he's trying to throw the election to mcbush? Sure sounds it!
Look at all us Vermonters in here. Kinda weird, actually. What's up with that?
Welch lost my support with the votes on the supplemental spending bills, but he's working his way back. I could get behind the baseball bat idea, but I think a sap bucket would be more poetic. Put the bucket on his head and hit it with the bat.
Hmmm, Chris Dodd is being investigated for getting a low interest rate on his house just as this bill clears committee. Dodd was the most vocal opposer of telecom immunity. I wonder if there is any correlation between a scandal that possibly damages his credibility just as a major vote is being called on something he opposes. I don't know if he did anything unethical but if he did he deserves to be punished but this might be more than a coincidence.
It's official! the Dumbocrats have become the party of enablers. They have been infiltrated by Corporate interests and are now selling out the people that faithfully elected them to hold the criminals in the White House accountable.
Why bother being a Dumbocrat when they are lining up behind the minority party to help the most criminal administration in history?
Nancy Pelosi is a war criminal! She and the rest of the dumbocratic leadership have enabled Bush and Cheney to Break U.S and international law. By willfully blocking attempts of responsible members of congress to stop the illegal activities going on in the White House they are complict and in fact guilty of those crimes.
Throw them all out and start over with real citizens, not these fake Corporatist Neo-Con brain stems
GMB, I was thinking the same thing about all us Vermonters on here! And I could get behind that sap bucket idea definitly. It is poetic as you say!
BuddyGoodness, that's a dmn good point. I don't believe much in coincedences of that sort. It's like the timing was definitly planned.
The American people deserve to know exactly what happened and they deserve to know who is accountable.
1. White House spying 7 months before 9/11
2. Many warnings intercepted but none translated before the attacks
3. Bush promotes Hayden to direct the CIA,
4. Sen. Leahy & Daschle Anthraxed to push thru Patriot Act
5. Bush says "anytime you hear the US govt. talk about wiretap, a wiretap requires a court order. nothing has changed by the way, when we're talking about chasing down terrorists we're talking about getting a court order before we do so. It's important for our fellow citizens to understand, when you think Patriot Act, constitutional guarantees are in place when it comes to protecting the homeland because we value the Constitution"
6. Gang of Eight-Pelosi, Harman, Rockefeller, Roberts and others briefed and approved of this program but White House prohibits them from telling anyone-even the Intell. Committees
7. White House claims "Congress has been briefed at least a dozen times on this program"
8. White House Counsel Alberto R. Gonzales and President Bush's chief of staff, Andrew H. Card Jr., were on their way to the hospital to persuade Ashcroft to reauthorize Bush's domestic surveillance program, which the Justice Department had just determined was illegal.
9. Kucinich Impeachment Articles #24 #25
ILLEGAL SPYING The President has intentionally authorized and encouraged illegal electronic surveillance on American citizens.
ILLEGAL DATABASE OF PRIVATE INFO The President has illegally arranged with telecommunications companies to create a large database containing information regarding American citizens’ private telephone calls and emails.
10. Sen. Rockefeller helps write bill
11. House Dems cave and approve
12. Senate Dems? Feingold calls it "capitulation," presumptive Pres. nominee Obama won't lead a filibuster only support someone else's.
Please fill in the blanks.
Obama campain has been CHANGE CHANGE, well here is where he starts the change, Obama has to vote against FISA the BILL, also he cannot give cover to Hoyer & Pelosi in the HOUSE or Reid and friends in the SENATE. We the people have to rebuild the Democratic party beginning with getting rid of Hoyer,Pelosi,Reid,LIE-berman and all there friends.
I hope Hoyer gets voted out. He's a closet rightwinger.
We can fight , work for change and vote em out or give it all up to the crooks and low lifes who have taken over both the Republican and the Democratic parties .
I like pie @ 51:
What about Bush v Gore?
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