Sunday Morning Bobblehead Thread
By Nicole Belle Saturday Jun 21, 2008 7:00am
Sunday Morning - Maroon 5
We embark on our first Sunday news adventure without Tim Russert at the helm; Brian Williams will man the Meet The Press desk. But with any luck, we will keep the retrospectives to a minimum. I see plenty of opportunity for spin all over the dial: Oilmen on This Week to deflect blame of gas pricing (to the Democrats, no doubt), McCain surrogates on all the channels (though Obama doesn't have the same representation, curious that) and Rep. Robert Wexler on Late Edition. He's sure to be asked about the recent egregious House capitulation on FISA...will they also ask him about the impeachment stuff?
ABC's "This Week" - Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas; Rep. Edward Markey, D-Mass.; American Petroleum Institute President and CEO Red Cavaney; Jeffrey Sachs, director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University.
CBS' "Face the Nation" -Carly Fiorina, adviser to John McCain's campaign; Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M.
NBC's "Meet the Press" - Sens. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., and Joe Biden, D-Del.
CNN's "Late Edition" - Govs. Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn., and Richardson; Reps. Robert Wexler, D-Fla., and Eric Cantor, R-Va.; former Labor Secretary Robert Reich; Douglas Holtz-Eakin, McCain adviser; Ahmed Rashid, author of a new book on Afghanistan, Pakistan and Central Asia.
"Fox News Sunday" - Former Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D.; former Gov. Tom Ridge, R-Pa.; Earth Day Network President Kathleen Rogers.
<corrected. this is a rerun>: "The Chris Matthews Show" - Panel: Katty Kay, Jim Cramer, Kathleen Parker and Andrew Sullivan. Topics: Can McCain beat Obama by painting him as a tax-raising liberal?Chris's thoughts on Tim Russert's mastery of politics. Meter Questions: Can McCain escape the bad economy by warning that Obama will raise taxes? YES: 5 NO: 7 Will Hillary Clinton's supporters rally behind Barack Obama? YES: 12 NO: 0.
What's catching your eye this morning?
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frist?
I don't have eyes this morning. I scratched them out after looking at the week in review and the Sunday Morning line-up.
If we're not gonna get anything worth seeing, who needs eyes?
Forget Sam Nunn as VP, Obama To Pick ‘Tim Russert’s Nun’
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1938
Maroon 5 is shit.
This is the music choice for Sunday morning? Here's commercial crap with your morning coffee. How about some music with integrity, like say, Carbon/Silicon?
BTW, Nicole? Just because Congress and the Futures pits are playing with the margins is no reason to widen yours.
Is the wider view symbolic? A statement?
Just How Will ‘Meet the Press’ Differ With Brian Williams?
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1944
Wow, what happened to the post? It stretches out beyond my screen.
Anyway, I'll be watching for Sen. Biden to hand Sen. Lindsey Graham a smack down.
Could be fun.
Okay, just read comment number five, so I know it's not just me seeing the wide, wide, wide picture.
Good Morning everyone. Welcome to the first Sunday of Summer '08
Hopefully everyone is rested and ready to make the most of today.
its fuck google ads day...
How this list of balanced pundits 'expertise' makes me want Chomsky to write Manufacturing Consent part two.
Seriously, the Coke v Pepsi face off hosted by Mountain Dew and debated by the Carbonated Beverage Council.
TAB objects...
...And is over-ruled by precedent Dr. Pepper vs. Mr. Pibb...
Catching my eye this morning? The Shock Doctrine by Naomi Klein, which I just started.
This afternoon? Italy vs. Spain at 2:30 EDT. ESPANA!!!
This site needs to cut out the unnecessary carbs...
Why is that disgusting toad Lindsey Graham still on TV? Is this the best MTP could get? What a joke.
Maybe this will convince my wife I need a bigger (yum, yum) monitor.
I'd love to see The Dutchess of Ptown bitch-slap Parker, but I won't hold my breath waiting for that to happen.
What is wrong with C&L today? Their page is all over my screen. Have to scroll way over to read.
Ridge on FnS just used the "oil" argument for staying in Iraq... keeping that supply from the terrorists.
They aren't even TRYING to hide the fact we're there for oil anymore.
If we of had a renewable energy policy to get us off oil when Bush took office, would control of that oil even matter?
What's catching my eye? It's 114F outside. My sunflowers are in bloom; one plant is about 9' tall and easily has about a hundred blooms; the western kingbird perches at the top and sorties out for insects. The passionflower vines are blooming and are alive with gulf fritillary butterflies. Their caterpillars eat only a little of the greenery - a small price to pay for all of these butterflies in their orange/black/silverspot glory. The bidwellii coral tree is beginning it's second flush of blooms this season; two inch long tubular flowers that look like lipsticks and the hummingbirds are fighting over this prime territory. I've got the new Jack Bruce/Robin Trower album on the stereo. My tortoiseshell kitty is prrmeowing to me.
Why would I want to watch a bunch of corporate flunkies lying to me on the damn idiot box? Besides, C&L will pick out the best of the stupidest for me to watch and roll my eyes at later on. Thanks, C & L! ( i think)
Thank god I bought that new 4' wide monitor last night...
why is the thread two feet wide.
Hey, I've gotta give props to Chris Wallace for calling Ridge out on the hypocrisy of defending *not* drilling in ANWR to keep it "pristine", but has no problem with drilling off the California & Florida shores.
lol @ fastfeat. and thank god i had the "uma thurman eye procedure" done last week...
Ridge believes more drilling is the answer to America's "long term" energy security.
I'm annoyed Daschel isn't calling Ridge out on that nonsense.
Nicole, your margins are as wide as Larry Craig's bathroom stance.
Once again the views of the people from Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine are never raised in the American media, as not one antiwar activist can be seen or heard on these Sunday Talk Shows. Perhaps just more proof that the possibility of seeing a third party candidate who will hold the corporate parties accountable for their militaristic actions is practically nonexistent. Seeing this sentence continue seemingly forever reminds one of the song from The Who, I believe, which was entitled "Miles and Miles."
When did "protectionist" become a dirty word (regarding "free trade")?
That is a horrible lineup on Matthews' show. Idiots, liars, and foreigners, some wearing more than one of the foregoing hats.
Hume is praising Obama for opting out of public financing, showing everyone just how bad PF really is.
ridge, the orange alert guy?
Yep, Biden took Lindsey to the wood shed and he did it with facts.
If I ever need anyone to argue for me, I'm calling Biden.
Lindsey looked like a total fool up against someone like Biden who did
bring a gun to a knife fight. All Lindsey had to say was bullshit and Biden had facts.
Nicole states "McCain surrogates on all the channels (though Obama doesn’t have the same representation, curious that) " Let's do a fact check on that claim by looking at the guest list.
Thats 1 McCain surrogate and one Obama surrogate. Plus one pro oil drilling and one anti oil drilling person.
The other ones must be really tilted. Let's check it out.
Hmmmm. That looks like a one to one though if anything its tilted to the Democrats since I never heard of Carly Fiorina whereas Richardson is a possible VP selection and much more high profile. Maybe one of the other shows is tilted towards Republicans.
Hmmmmm that's also split down the middle. Let's see what CNN does
Wow that is also split down the middle between who the guests are. That only leaves FOX so they must really be a repulican show today. Who are the guests there?
Fox is tilted to the democrats. You have a former dem and former republican office holder. Both are potential VP nominees, and a committed environmentalists.
Curious that indeed.
curtilingus @ 26:
LOL!
"...Larry Craig's bathroom stance in a wheelchair stall"
Kristol speculates Bush might attack Iran if Obama wins (or thinks he'll win).
#32 I will be at work by the time it comes on here. Wish I could see that smackdown.
Hume & Williams had a brief exchange on whether Iran has benefited from the invasion of Iraq. Juan pointed out all the ways Iran has benefited, Hume disagreed. Juan then points out "if Iran wasn't stronger, why is Israel planning an attack?"
Mugsy @ 35:
Like The Brushcutter-in-Sheet needs an excuse, or The Bloody's opinion...
(I had to walk to Coral Gables to hit the "Refresh Comments" control. I'm getting tired...)
Brian @ 33,
Very good. Going scientific. I like that.
Now expand your sampling set: Do this for talk radio, cable news, and the MSM over the course of lets say a week, and then check your results.
Expand the sample size to make sure this isn't an anomolous data set. I doubt you will get the same results. I haven't.
Oooh, on MTP, a "round-table" with two pundits. So much for three points determining a plane...
Hellooooooo! Is anyone at home at C&L? Have you looked in the mirror today? Something is very wrong with your site. Apparently posts were made and everyone went back to bed! Help!
Obama's reversal on "Public Funding" has been the big topic on both FnS and now MtP.
My advice to Obama would be to publicly say he'll "limit his own spending to $81M", the equivalent of PF, but will spend more only if necessary to combat excessive 521 (?) spending.
It was nauseating to watch Lindsey Graham on MTP today. His faux "dismay" that Obama had forgone public financing was absurd. Then the douche bag had the nerve to argue for "victory" in Iraq?
On the plus side, it was a lot of fun to watch Joe Biden provide him with a very civilized yet effective beatdown.
>>Obama’s reversal on “Public Funding” has been the big topic on both FnS and now MtP.
>>My advice to Obama would be to publicly say he’ll “limit his own spending to $81M”, the equivalent of PF, but will spend more only if necessary to combat excessive 521 (?) spending.
I suppose Lindsay Graham is paid not to see the forest for the trees and it behooves him to be completely myopic, but there is no argument here. Obama committed to abide by CFR to ensure special interests are not swaying the election. If the majority of his funds come from small donors, I don't see huge problem with not abiding with CFR. His move stays within the spirit of his statement on CFR on Nov 2007.
(note: I am not an Obama supporter)
Watching MTP. Lindsey Graham has his panties in a twist over Obama's decision to opt out of public funding. Hyprocracy waits patiently for the righteous.
Lindsey explained his flip-flop on offshore drilling with "$4 a gallon gas". A common rationalization on the Right.
Yet, I've yt to hear one of them try and tell us just how much they believe the price of gas would fall if we drilled in these places. Take us from $4 to $3?
>>Yet, I’ve yt to hear one of them try and tell us just how much they believe the price of gas would fall if we drilled in these places. Take us from $4 to $3?
You probably won't. Simply because of the 10 year lead time. On another note: it makes me mad that Williams didn't call Graham on the fact that he used the Cuba/China oil drilling connection as an excuse to pursue off shore drilling. That connection has been dubunked as false, Graham had no business spreading falsehoods.
mark @ 47:
I was more surprised that Biden didn't call him on it!!
senator graham got his clock cleaned by biden...not how many times he grabbed water and looked like a beat mule by the end of the segment....
this was on meet the press with brian williams
California is on fire again
3 In 10 admit to racial bias( somehow, I think they missed on that one)
Congress overrides Bush veto, on Farm Bill.Again
Bush, Cheney interview subpoenaed
The chris matthews show is a re-run from lat week. What's up with that????
fastfeat @ 48:
I think Graham said there were plans in the works for china to drill off cuba.
I think that was how it went and sinse no one knows
whether there might be some plans somewhere or not, Biden just let that one lay there.
He had already horse whipped Graham
all to hell and back.
wendy davis @ 51:
How could one tell??
Mugsy @ 37:
Maybe because the Bushco companies were and are busy sanction busting and supplying Iran with x.
that's the second weekend without Russert, actually.
While Biden did a good job defending Obama, as well as taking Graham to the woodshed on Iraq and offshore drilling, I would have liked to see him counterattack on Graham's assertions regarding Obama as somebody willing to change his position any way he can in order to win. He started to at certain points (calling out McCain's flip flopping on a couple of issues), but never really hammered this home. Plus, it would have been nice to hear about McCain's own chicanery involving campaign finance. Defending Obama's actions is certainly necessary, but nailing McCain is also crucial.
Markey: [The oil companies] "should clean their plate before asking for dessert." (or wanting environmentally protected land to drill on). :)
Everyone who's been trouncing on Obama for reversing his position on campaign financing. Well I can think of one good reason he needs all the money he can get which McCain can't argue with. Just this morning on msnbc...
3 in 10 Americans admit to racial bias
Survey shows age also may affect election views
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25310337/
Richardson just spanked Wolfie's question down to him:
"Will you know admit that the "Surge" is a success after today's lengthy NYT article reports how violence and civilian casualties have dropped off since it started"?
"No, I wont admit that, the 'Surge' has brought no political reconciliation, no oil revenue sharing, and this war without end shows no signs of finding one. We should be spending all those billions of dollars on ___ and ___ and ___ here in the U.S."
Way to go Bill!
Graham has every intention of 'spreading falsehoods', such as the china/cuba oil drilling story, which is false. that's because the more lies are spread and are talked about they may eventually become so commonplace that people will believe them as being true. gee, i think another organization successfully used that strategy while running another country of a bygone time...hmm, now who could that be...i think they goose-stepped, rounded people up, had blonde hair and blue eyes, yeah somewhere in Europe i believe..what is the name...darn it...oh well, the GOP fits well within this mold...
Who knew I would ever say this but Chris Wallace was the most rational interviewer on today's talk shows, at least the ones I watched. MTP and Bob Sheiffer (sp?) were just all a twitter about Sen. Obama's campaign finances. At least it wasn't the first thing that Wallace jumped on today.
3 in 10 admit to racial bias? isn't that about what bushes approval rating is?
FIVE 19 year olds (and severin their early 20's) in the Iraq Memoriam? Yeesh.
I think the press believes they have finally found something to go after Senator Obama with that doesn't make them look like totally nit pickers. This finance thing makes them think they have a real dog bone to chew on. Funny thing is, after long periods of talking about it, they all drop back and say it isn't something the average voter gives a rat's ass about.
The funniest thing I think Lindsey Graham said today was that Obama wanted to win this election and he would do anything to win. Then when he was asked why McCain flip flopped on offshore drilling, he said it was because gas was four dollars a gallon. Think McCain would have called for offshore drilling now if he wasn't running for president? Yeah, me neither.
I wish one of the pundits would have Graham and Crist on together to discuss their flips on offshore drilling.
I want to see which one wants to
destroy their state's tourist economyget into McCane'spantsVP slot the most.How low can each go?
fastfeat @ 65:
They can't go to the bottom of our shores. Florida isn't gonna stand for that.
Biden was excellent on MTP. He really pwned Graham.
I don't see Obama picking Biden for VP. He wouldn't want to lose that Senate seat.
I watched Meet the Press this morning only to find Brian Williams having a lifeless voice. What is the matter with Brian Williams? He sounded like a hen-pecked politician.
Hopefully, Tom Brokow next week will bring in his cowboy voice to the table.
Come on folks, vote for Arianna Huffington. She will bring in 100 percent rating to MSNBC.
i fell asleep last night with the tv on, NBC (chappelle's show), and was woken up by some idiot declaring, once again, that "the chinese are drilling for oil off cuba!"
apparently they're not getting the memos.
Lindsay Graham is such a tool.
It's amusing (like a clown) watching alledged fiscal conservatives like him feign outrage that effectively Obama is turning down free money from the government. With the average contribution to the Obama compaign coming in at under $100, they will be soooo beholden to special interests.
Pay no attention that McCain accepted public financing funds and violated spending limits.
If McCain strangled a puppy on the steps of Capitol Hill, Graham would say he did it to show how tough he would be on the terrorists.
I was not pleased to learn of Tim Russert's passing, however, in all fairness, it seems to me, we used to continually bash him and call him Timmeh. Let's not get too facetious. I bear no ill will toward him, and I feel for his family's grief.
I like Maroon 5. "Sunday Morning" is my favorite Maroon 5 song, probably because it sounds a little different from their other songs.
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