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Tom Ridge takes up the usual discredited conservative talking point that if our troops leave Iraq, al-Qaeda and Iran will control everything there---including all the oil fields on FOX News Sunday. Man, there certainly are a lot of terrorists running around in Iraq now. Didn't the administration tell us that al-Qaeda has been defeated in Iraq already? Oh, right ---so now it's Iran. Iran is running around in Iraq now...

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Wallace: ...as part of your answer, at what point does Sen McCain say we do have to turn it over to the Iraqis.

Ridge: Well I think again, it depends on the situation on the ground as the NY Times is reporting...blah, blah, blah..it is a central venue in this war against terror...blah, blah. blah..the lind of support we provided Germany and South Korea....(sorry, I couldn't transcribe it all. I just couldn't get myself to do it.)

The old situation on the ground trick with a dash of Germany and South Korea. How did that line work for McCain? There's greater and greater control, but watch out. It could fall apart as soon as we leave! He really wants to say the word "never." Just say it Ridge. You can do it. So can McCain and Kristol and Bush and Cheney. I don't know why they just don't get honest and say something like:

Ridge: We never want to turn Iraq back over to the Iraqis because we want their oil, Chris. Is that plain enough for you?

Wallace: Certainly Gov. Ridge, thanks for being so candid with us. You heard it right here folks on FNS. McCain never wants to leave Iraq. Back after the break.

I guess terrorists reconstitute like bunnies--or something...The Iraqi people will not let Iran have control over their land. Hey, Tom---the American people aren't buying that line. It's so 2004.

(h/t Heather. She really helped big time on Sunday.)

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Pete&Pete's picture

Say what you want about The Ridge, that name demands respect!

getalife's picture

We already knew that.

Waxman is on C-Span2 summarizing and stating all the fraud in Iraq from his hearings.

The list is long and our government is broken.

Time to shut it down and lock up all the criminals.

Ridge too.

Rich2506's picture

One of the real hard-line right-wing conservatives in our local paper just did a piece yesterday about how much Iraqis hated al Qaeda in Iraq. I wrote a snarky letter to the paper about how we lefty bloggers had been saying that for awhile now.
I said that we predicted long ago that if the US leaves Iraq, al Qaeda in Iraq will very shortly cease to exist. I'm sure our guy was spitting mad to get my letter!

And's picture

As he should, if he wants to keep that Republican card in his wallet, and he won't get his cut from the no-bid contracts that Shell, BP, Total and Exxon are working on right now.

The most important thing is that the Republicans are finally coming out and saying what the war was really about : OIL.

In related news : Congressional Democrats do nothing.

zugzug's picture

wow, you got a lot more out of that than I did. when I watch it all I hear is:

blah blah blah .. blah blah blah blah blah.. blah blah blah..

it goes on for a long time like that until thankfully, it ends.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

What word or phrase does Gov. Tom Ridge start to say before he says "war on terror", theres a click, sounds like it was edited out.

at about 41 seconds, begins with C to my ears.

karl's picture

now it's.." we hope there isn't any casualties"......get a grip ridge there will be casualties...they know it and so do we. they want to occupy many areas of the country to protect the oil companies......the u.s. military occupying,allies of israel and christians......iran isn't going to have it and u.s. knows it......that's why there trying to stir it up now so they can bomb iran's oil/public infrastructure

ysbaddaden's picture

Tom Ridge links the Iraq War to Iran to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...

Sinsimillian Gold?

I'll smoke to that.

Left&Left's picture

These evil fuckers never stop lying. Eventually we will leave Iraq and the country will be taken over by people who despise our asses.

karl's picture

now all of a sudden the new york times is his friendly reference

jaramilr's picture

"I guess terrorists reconstitute like bunnies–or something…"

They're made of liquid metal.

marko's picture

It's like I said yesterday, the bullshit meter is pegged and the military industrial mediatainment petro pharma complex knows it.

Why not just come out and say what's up, no need to lie, we the people and our representatives are powerless as proven over the

past few years, and culminating in Obama's shortsighted but politically astute stand on FISA!

fooked

proper fooked lads, we are!

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

Faux edited out something Ridge said at 41 seconds.

moniker's picture

And the citizens of Fewbadapplestan will greet us as liberators.

Roket's picture

I think Tom should cut back on the Kook-Aid. He seems to be unaware that Never Never Land no longer exists. It’s in foreclosure.

Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo's picture

I saw this incompetent turd on TV yesterday. The funniest thing was when he got all bent out of shape when Tom Dashele kept referring to McDipshit as McCain/Bush and Bush’s third term. Ridge got all hot and bothered and was saying (and I paraphrase) “McCain will not be the third Bush term. WOULD YOU STOP SAYING THAT!!!!” He was very bitter. I think it is getting to them.
McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

karl's picture

perpetual war and occupation...the government working for the capitalists
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/revealed-secret-plan...

Bonkers's picture

Off Topic:
George Carlin died of heart failure. Dman.

Good travels, George. Man, did you ever make me laugh and think at the same time.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

I reckon hes says 'combat zone' which doesnt sit well with what the Repugs claim is happening in Iraq.

karl's picture

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 20:

I reckon hes says 'combat zone' which doesnt sit well with what the Repugs claim is happening in Iraq.

that's what i was thinking also.........they want war on terror not against a country and has no boundries they want to be able to attack anywhere...i guess combat doesn't equate to that not in the linquistic talking points manual

karl's picture

obama's people should be all over this point..then again maybe obama isn't going to be able to get us out either

Wallace: Certainly Gov. Ridge, thanks for being so candid with us. You heard it right here folks on FNS. McCain never wants to leave Iraq. Back after the break.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

karl @ 21:

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 20:

I reckon hes says 'combat zone' which doesnt sit well with what the Repugs claim is happening in Iraq.

that's what i was thinking also.........they want war on terror not against a country and has no boundries they want to be able to attack anywhere...i guess combat doesn't equate to that not in the linquistic talking points manual

Gov. Tom Ridge is one of the few Republicans to not be a chickenhawk,
he actually served in Vietnam winning combat medals.

he was drafted into the United States Army, where he served as an infantry staff sergeant during the Vietnam War. He earned the Bronze Star, National Defense Service Medal, Vietnam Service Medal, Vietnam Campaign Medal, Vietnam Gallantry Cross Unit Citation with Palm, and the Combat Infantryman Badge. Later he was offered a position as an officer but turned it down when he learned that it would require an extra year of service.

A ruptured appendix cut short his tour and he returned home in 1970;

so his language isnt of the typical bland Republican chickenhawk variety with their PR oriented focus, and double speak.

1942tyu's picture

I think that this guy is just a corrupt repuke. This person will say any bs.

I think that also this S.O.B is with Home Depot now.

Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo's picture

Joe Biden said it again on MTP. If we get the hell out then the Iraqis will kick Al Qaeda’s but out in a few days. Why are these Republicans so dense?

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

'Fair and balanced' ie Faux editing for broadcast a politicians spoken words to match the Bushco crime families agenda.

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1942tyu @ 24:

I think that this guy is just a corrupt repuke. This person will say any bs.

I think that also this S.O.B is with Home Depot now.

Who needs a conventional military when we have Home Depot and Blackwater...
just beware when you go for that min wage job at HD, they dont transfer you to a store some place hot and dangerous ;)

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And @ 4:

As he should, if he wants to keep that Republican card in his wallet, and he won't get his cut from the no-bid contracts that Shell, BP, Total and Exxon are working on right now.

The most important thing is that the Republicans are finally coming out and saying what the war was really about : OIL.

In related news : Congressional Democrats do nothing.

Remember, our foray into Iraq was originally called Operation Iraqi Liberation.

Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo's picture

The thing about McCain, Lieberman and Bush and now this turd Ridge, is they will never be able to solve the war because they do not understand it. They do not understand the players. Lieberman says Al Qaeda would be in control of Iraq today? That is just STUPID!!! The Iraqis will kick their sorry butts out (no matter what McCain and his best buddy forever thinks) in a matter of hours after the U.S. leaves. The Iraqis hate Al Qaeda as much as they hate the U.S. for invading. You can bet your bottom $ that no Iraqi will be told what to do by some Al Qaeda nut who all of Iraq hate. McCain (and it looks like Lieberman as well) does not even know who Al Qaeda is. Obviously the same is true with Bush and Ridge. All you will see of Al Qaeda is the dust they kick up as they run for Afghanistan. Iraq will kick Al Qaeda out just like they will do to the Iranians, "Thanks for the help. Now get the hell out." They don’t get the dynamics of country being invade by foreign powers. What would happen if the U.S. pulled out of Iraq immediately? What would happen next? This is what would happen - The Shia tell Iran "Thanks for the help, now leave. Get out of our country." That is the part the neocon war mongers can't seem to understand. Everybody says that Iran will take over Iraq. Or they will have so much influence that Iraq will essentially become part of Iran. Well that will NOT happen. Iraq is Iraq. They don't want to be told what to do by Iran. Just like they don’t want to be told what to do by the U.S. Remember when Saddam invaded Kuwait, Saudi Arabia let the U.S. stage in their country to throw Saddam out of Kuwait. And Egypt helped the coalition in that war. Both those countries are Sunni. Saddam was Sunni. In fact Egypt harbored an exiled Saddam many years ago but Egypt helped throw Saddam out of Kuwait. Being from the same sect did not help Saddam. Saddam didn't listen to Saudi Arabia when it came to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia is Sunni like Saddam. Saudi Arabia let the coalition stage in Saudi Arabia to attack Saddam, a Sunni. Why would Iraq listen to any other country, i.e. Iran or Syria or anybody else? Why would they let Iran tell them what to do? So you see that just because part of Iraq and Iran are the same sect you cannot assume that Iraqi Shia will let Iranian Shia tell them what to do. The Iraqis are only letting Iran help them because Iraq wants the U.S. out! As far as the Kurds go they have it figured out. They're having BBQ on Saturday nights (probably). And the Sunni? They will have to figure out how to have their own area. Joe Bidden knows how this will work out. Most of them have left the country anyway. It will work out without us. The neocon war profiteers don't get it or they want this war to continue for financial reasons. You know this. I know this. 82% of the U.S. knows this. Getting out is the dilemma. The Republicans think that staying in is the delima. I'm sure the military can figure out how the hell to leave. They don't have to worry about all the junk they brought with them. Most of it is trash at this time anyway. It's worn out. Used up. Just get on a plane and leave. Remember Iraq was better off with Saddam. I've said it many times. Nobody wanted to say it at the time but it is true. Iraq will have to sell their oil to somebody just like Venezuela. So you see there is no problem. Pack up and leave. Let's pack it up and leave tomorrow. You are either with me or... um... ah... won't get fooled again.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 25:

Joe Biden said it again on MTP. If we get the hell out then the Iraqis will kick Al Qaeda’s but out in a few days. Why are these Republicans so dense?

translated, the Iraqis will send packing the TLA sponsored mercs and thugs.

rend's picture

se the problem is that this works because it appeals to the general selfishness americans embody. It is the same as arguing the economy. Somehow there is a perception that this oil now belongs to us..

ysbaddaden's picture

17 Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo

Shouldn't that be

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha?

Or even boosh's dry heh...heh...heh

Like he's choking on another pretzel

Or a baby wanting his baba?

eventually, one of the fucks is going to tell the truth - that this was the plan drawn up by cheney with ken lay's help.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

Dr. Acula @ 28:

And @ 4:

As he should, if he wants to keep that Republican card in his wallet, and he won't get his cut from the no-bid contracts that Shell, BP, Total and Exxon are working on right now.

The most important thing is that the Republicans are finally coming out and saying what the war was really about : OIL.

In related news : Congressional Democrats do nothing.

Remember, our foray into Iraq was originally called Operation Iraqi Liberation.

that must have been a panic stricken OMFG moment and a mad rush to change the PR releases.

StirFry's picture

Remember , this is a booshy talking , and this is Faux. It's a like a lie wrapped in a fallacy locked in an untruth encased in horse shit.

karl's picture

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087
saudi meeting won't see this on u.s. media short video they don't see supply problem
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087

Is that diKKKwad channeling his inner McC*nt?
Is he trying to link Iran and Al CIAda as well?

WTF!?

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1's picture

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Opperation
Iraq
Liberation

... "No Sir, we can't be that obvious."

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ysbaddaden's picture

Maybe (preorbital) ridge should be representing this gubmint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYCOyaIUCSo

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

OT but hilariou in its way of showing up McCain as slow, dim witted, and years behind the times.

McCain Pushes Battery R&D

Sen. John McCain is proposing a $300 million government prize for developing an automobile battery that far surpasses existing technology. The bounty would equate to $1 for every man, woman and child in the country, "a small price to pay for helping to break the back of our oil dependency," the Republican presidential contender said in a speech he will deliver in California.

The thieving warmongering Republicans will happily spend aprox $1800 per man woman and child in the US for some lunatic war of overseas aggression,
yet will only propose spending $1 per person on advanced electic vehicle technology.
Big oil and Bushco corruption wins YET AGAIN.

$550,000,000,000 compared to $300,000,000 notice theres nearly a two thousand difference ratio.

Jo's picture

When Sec. of Treasury McNeil was on 60 Minutes way back in Bush's first term, just after he left the administration, he had a bunch of papers. As he was being interviewed, he showed those papers. One of them was a map of Iraq with areas divided into oil exploration areas. I went online and found that map and made a hard copy. Everytime I get a chance I show it to anybody who says this occupation was about anything except oil. This whole deal was in the works from day one of Bush's administration, probably before.

xoites defends Constitution's picture

"As the New York Times has reported..."

Where have I heard that line before?

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:

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Opperation
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Liberation

... "No Sir, we can't be that obvious."

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Linberating
I ran
Against all
Reason
Soon

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

Crude futures were ahead $1.25 at nearly $137 a barrel in New York

I thought is was all supposed to be puppies and roses and all things nice in the world of Bushco oil prices this week !!!!!
Maybe people dont believe the BS these days.

Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 29:
I tend to believe that they understand what they are doing, which is prolonging the war and creating lies to distort the view of their plans. they obviously want to control all mideast oil, but the Saudis have their oilfields protected with nuclear mines(half-life is 500,000 years.

Iraq and Iran were british fiefdoms and were thus not able to develop or protect their oilfields the way the saudis have done. so the shock doctrine was employed, with some success, in Iraq and the plan is to do the same in Iran.

If Bolton is correct in his statement that Israel will attack Iran after the election, should Obama become president-elect, then there is a really huge problem. Are russia and China supposed to stand idly by while anglo-american oil companies gobble up the middle-east?

they have been getting salpped in the face by the boosh admin for seven years and by the clinton admin before that. they may be running out of patience and feeling a bit cornered. since outr conventional forces are beyond exhaustion, the only weapons left are missiles.

say goodbye to sunlight.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

karl @ 36:

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087
saudi meeting won't see this on u.s. media short video they don't see supply problem
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087

There was a rather relevant and topical discussion on CNN by the Bimbos this morning about breakfast diets.

xoites defends Constitution @ 43:

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:

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Opperation
Iraq
Liberation

... "No Sir, we can't be that obvious."

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Linberating
I ran
Against all
Reason
Soon

sponsored by the NYTimes/CNN coalition for propaganda.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 46:

karl @ 36:

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087
saudi meeting won't see this on u.s. media short video they don't see supply problem
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087

There was a rather relevant and topical discussion on CNN by the Bimbos this morning about breakfast diets.

I made a sarky comment to my wife about the anorexic TV bimbos eating a slice of Ryvita and a grape for brekkers,
sure enough one mentioned her breakfast and grapes in the same breath.

Jo @ 41:

When Sec. of Treasury McNeil was on 60 Minutes way back in Bush's first term, just after he left the administration, he had a bunch of papers. As he was being interviewed, he showed those papers. One of them was a map of Iraq with areas divided into oil exploration areas. I went online and found that map and made a hard copy. Everytime I get a chance I show it to anybody who says this occupation was about anything except oil. This whole deal was in the works from day one of Bush's administration, probably before.

do you remember the cheney 'energy policy' meeting in the whitehouse? the ones with the attendee lists that the whitehouse won't disclose? Remember the maps that were reviewed in those meetings. I believe that the maps you refer to were those maps.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 46:

karl @ 36:

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087
saudi meeting won't see this on u.s. media short video they don't see supply problem
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087

There was a rather relevant and topical discussion on CNN by the Bimbos this morning about breakfast diets.

Cable News Network, sounds rather impressive, almost like they should have news and current affairs on it...

Underground Pirate's picture

Time for a million man march on congress!!! Why the hell are they dragging their feet??
Bush/Cheney now publicly understood to be war criminals, war profiteers, and democracy destroyers.
Just how bad does it have to get before we march into town there, and get them back to doing their most important job??????

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

Underground Pirate @ 51:

Time for a million man march on congress!!! Why the hell are they dragging their feet??
Bush/Cheney now publicly understood to be war criminals, war profiteers, and democracy destroyers.
Just how bad does it have to get before we march into town there, and get them back to doing their most important job??????

Ten million with pitchforks and everybody holding a copy of and chanting the Constitution.

Underground Pirate's picture

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:

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Opperation
Iraq
Liberation

... "No Sir, we can't be that obvious."

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Oil
Iran
Lies

Jo's picture

BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan @ 49:

Jo @ 41:

When Sec. of Treasury McNeil was on 60 Minutes way back in Bush's first term, just after he left the administration, he had a bunch of papers. As he was being interviewed, he showed those papers. One of them was a map of Iraq with areas divided into oil exploration areas. I went online and found that map and made a hard copy. Everytime I get a chance I show it to anybody who says this occupation was about anything except oil. This whole deal was in the works from day one of Bush's administration, probably before.

do you remember the cheney 'energy policy' meeting in the whitehouse? the ones with the attendee lists that the whitehouse won't disclose? Remember the maps that were reviewed in those meetings. I believe that the maps you refer to were those maps.

That's what I believe also.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

Its got to be illegal (in another alt dimension) for gov officials and politicians conspiring with corporations in deciding to invade, occupy, and carve up another county's natural resources.

Jo's picture

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 55:

Its got to be illegal (in another alt dimension) for gov officials and politicians conspiring with corporations in deciding to invade, occupy, and carve up another county's natural resources.

Sounds like a dose of Fascism to me. And it ain't illegal in this country if the Fascists do it.

Underground Pirate's picture

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 55:

Its got to be illegal (in another alt dimension) for gov officials and politicians conspiring with corporations in deciding to invade, occupy, and carve up another county's natural resources.

Alberto Gonzales says NO! It is all for national security. You see, it makes us more secure to amass massive war debt and deaths and to kill hundreds of thousands of "foreigners" and to totally ignore the constitution. Get with it dude!

Col Kilgore's picture

Seems to me that the right is now admitting that the rationale for invasion of Iraq was based on total bullshit. However , they have decided they may as well steal what they can while they are there. I think November will be too late to kick these scumbags to the curb. Ridge was rewarded for his bullshit terror alerts by being named to Home Depots board. They sure appreciated his help unloading plywood and duct tape to the frightwingers.

bert's picture

I may be mistaken but wasn't it Ridge who wanted us to wrap our houses in plastic and duct tape in case of a second attack (or a dirty bomb attack)?
If so, how does this guy have ANY credability?

Jo's picture

In case anyone wants to see the oil map I was referring to........

http://judicialwatch.org/IraqOilMap.pdf

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture

someone want to explain to me why ridge isnt testifying on capitol hill everyday about why, as the head of homeland security, he used the colored alerts to scare people into voting republican??

why isnt this fucker in prison??

why arent i on fox kicking the shit out of him??

why am i so fucking angry all the time???

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

bert @ 59:

I may be mistaken but wasn't it Ridge who wanted us to wrap our houses in plastic and duct tape in case of a second attack (or a dirty bomb attack)?
If so, how does this guy have ANY credability?

and we would all rush out and buy this plastic film and duct tape from maybe Home Depot !
sounds just another example of revolving door policy between the gov and MIC NYT World Bank Home Depot Green Zone Land JohnJoe's touring clown show

Underground Pirate @ 53:

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:

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Opperation
Iraq
Liberation

... "No Sir, we can't be that obvious."

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Oil
Iran
Lies

That's pretty cool. You have Oil going up and down and from left to right. The only thing you don't have going from left to right are the people who read it.

ysbaddaden's picture

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 61:

someone want to explain to me why ridge isnt testifying on capitol hill everyday about why, as the head of homeland security, he used the colored alerts to scare people into voting republican??

why isnt this fucker in prison??

why arent i on fox kicking the shit out of him??

why am i so fucking angry all the time???

Not enough f*****g?

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 55:

Its got to be illegal (in another alt dimension) for gov officials and politicians conspiring with corporations in deciding to invade, occupy, and carve up another county's natural resources.

certainly, our leadership can't do anything illegal! it's the law according to noxin.

ysbaddaden @ 65:

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 61:

someone want to explain to me why ridge isnt testifying on capitol hill everyday about why, as the head of homeland security, he used the colored alerts to scare people into voting republican??

why isnt this fucker in prison??

why arent i on fox kicking the shit out of him??

why am i so fucking angry all the time???

Not enough f*****g?

I thought it was because the white alerts didn't scare anyone.

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james k. sayre's picture

When we finally withdraw our imperial occupying military forces of some 300,000 soldiers and Hessians from the Republic of Iraq, Iraqis will be running Iraq and the puppet regime will collapse and all of its laws and its so-called no-bid oil contracts with Exxon, Shell, BP, Total and Chevron will be null and void. Imagine Iraqis running Iraq. What's next? Afghanis running Afghanistan? 15 of the 19 box-cutter high-jackers were Saudi nationals; none of the others were Afghanis...

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BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan @ 68:

ysbaddaden @ 65:

Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 61:

someone want to explain to me why ridge isnt testifying on capitol hill everyday about why, as the head of homeland security, he used the colored alerts to scare people into voting republican??

why isnt this fucker in prison??

why arent i on fox kicking the shit out of him??

why am i so fucking angry all the time???

Not enough f*****g?

I thought it was because the white alerts didn't scare anyone.

Aren't those issued by the Klan?

They don't even like colored lights.

Maybe the Homland Security color coding could stand some tweaking from the Queer Eye guys

Like puce and mauve alerts.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

james k. sayre @ 70:

When we finally withdraw our imperial occupying military forces of some 300,000 soldiers and Hessians from the Republic of Iraq, Iraqis will be running Iraq and the puppet regime will collapse and all of its laws and its so-called no-bid oil contracts with Exxon, Shell, BP, Total and Chevron will be null and void. Imagine Iraqis running Iraq. What's next? Afghanis running Afghanistan? 15 of the 19 box-cutter high-jackers were Saudi nationals; none of the others were Afghanis...

Theres serious doubt as to who some of them really were, some of the hijackers carried stolen passports.
Go check out the foreign press esp the BBCs coverage of the passport angle.
Many unanswered questions, 9/11 basically boils down to Bushco incompetence in not heeding warnings from everybody and their dog before the events, and criminality in covering up their incompetence in not heeding the warnings, and exploiting the tragedy to launch one or two illegal wars.

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Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:

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Sounds like Simpson's dialogue ...

Mr. Anon's picture

Seriously libs, if we just killed all those brown people in Iran/Iraq then we'd have their oil fields and all kinds of new jobs for hard working Americans. We could balance the budget and ship people from Detroit to the middle east to work on the oil fields. They're used to living in a war zone.

earl's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 63:

Underground Pirate @ 53:

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:

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Opperation
Iraq
Liberation

... "No Sir, we can't be that obvious."

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Oil
Iran
Lies

That's pretty cool. You have Oil going up and down and from left to right. The only thing you don't have going from left to right are the people who read it.

Only
Indicted
Libby ...

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

Americans died when our 'vacation' president mumbled his way through that book and sat there like a scared rabbit,
Americans died and half a city became homeless during Katrina , when our holiday president was munching birthday cake with McC*nt in 05.
Americans died and thousands made homeless in Iowa while our still lame duck president quacks his way around the world on PR events.

ferrofluid (Obama 08)'s picture

Mr. Anon @ 74:

Seriously libs, if we just killed all those brown people in Iran/Iraq then we'd have their oil fields and all kinds of new jobs for hard working Americans. We could balance the budget and ship people from Detroit to the middle east to work on the oil fields. They're used to living in a war zone.

One million dead Iraqis, two ro four million displaced and 160,000 contractors in Iraq screams that IS THE PLAN.
21st century imperialism.

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Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:

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Liberation

... "No Sir, we can't be that obvious."

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To which DICK Cheney replied, "So what?"

bilhelm-axis of-X's picture

Ridge wants the oil for his fleet enema and his hair, not necessarily in that order.

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Charles's picture

He's been quiet the past few years. A VP slot under McCain wouldn't win him PA, no doubt, as I'm a PA resident.

Ghostwolf's picture

I laughed about the "blah, blah, blah" in Crooks and Lairs quote, and then I watched the quicktime movie. It did have me thinking "blah, blah, blah". It's amazing how the Bush administration has trained Tom Ridge to parrot so many fascist zombie phrases. Usually Tom Ridge can barely vocalize "Uhhh brains", and yet here he is reciting everything Carl Rove taught him. Amazing!

ysbaddaden's picture

82 Ghostwolf Says: I laughed about the “blah, blah, blah” in Crooks and Lairs quote,

We're not all wolves and need not den up in our lairs.

rooth terrorist fist jab baby mama hussein's picture

I'm so afraid of Al Queda oil wildcatters, dropping those wells every time we turn our backs! They must be stopped - before they ever start - no, wait, before they even think of it! Kill them quick before they think!!!

Thank God for Exxon Mobil, true patriots, protecting us from evil oil wildcatters.

Paul's picture

In other words, he's admiting that this whole atrocity was never about anything other than confiscatig Iraq's oil.

VegasRage's picture

Translation: We screwed up bad but can't accept accountability for our failures because it's unRepublican, you need to stick with us to the end because we screwed up so bad all the good options we had before we screwed up are now gone.

Trittydi's picture

There's oil fields on Fox News Sunday?
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Trittydi's picture

And @ 4:

As he should, if he wants to keep that Republican card in his wallet, and he won't get his cut from the no-bid contracts that Shell, BP, Total and Exxon are working on right now.

The most important thing is that the Republicans are finally coming out and saying what the war was really about : OIL.

In related news : Congressional Democrats do nothing.

Democrats are Impotent.
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Trittydi's picture

Trittydi @ 88:

And @ 4:

As he should, if he wants to keep that Republican card in his wallet, and he won't get his cut from the no-bid contracts that Shell, BP, Total and Exxon are working on right now.

The most important thing is that the Republicans are finally coming out and saying what the war was really about : OIL.

In related news : Congressional Democrats do nothing.

Democrats are Impotent.
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Oooooooops -- I meant "Congressional Democrates" ~
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BrokenArrow's picture

And @ 4:

As he should, if he wants to keep that Republican card in his wallet, and he won't get his cut from the no-bid contracts that Shell, BP, Total and Exxon are working on right now.

The most important thing is that the Republicans are finally coming out and saying what the war was really about : OIL.

In related news : Congressional Democrats do nothing.

PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A WAR. IT WAS AN INVASION. IRAQ IS AN OCCUPIED COUNTRY.

MN USA's picture

Certainly he's not implying that things would have been more stable if Bushco would have swallowed their pride and actually used a little diplomacy with Saddam, is he? That Bushco screwed up "big-time?"

Hulk's picture

Wouldn't it be something else if we were energy independent??? We could be. If we didn't give a rat's ass what oil was doing in the Middle East?

Wow...what a thought. What kind of a world would it be for us in the USA then? Let the Chinese have all the oil they want to buy from the Middle East.

We have our head so far up our collective asses.

Hulk's picture

Hey, how about rationing of gasoline? Everyone over the age of driving....16, or whatever age you want to accept gets a coupon for 5 gallons of gas per week. That's it. You can sell it on the black market if you want to..but we have a LIMITED SUPPLY!!

Shit, we aren't doing anything else for this war. We rationed totally during WWII. We are doing NOTHING today.

Let's rely on WHAT WE HAVE!! Screw the Middle East oil. Screw the oil companies. They have raised the price for record profits for themselves...the f*cking vultures. Let's put an end to this nonsense.

Nancy's picture

There are oil fields on Fox News Sunday?

tuddies's picture

Oil is a fungible commodity, Tom, and our imports are covered by many countries whose names do not begin with I. The squandering of American taxpayer's money and blood only creates more longterm problems.

Do you know how many barrels two trillion dollars could buy?

What happened in PA, Tom? Congrats on that promotion, I see you are still paying for it.

tuddies's picture

Hulk @ 93:

Let's rely on WHAT WE HAVE!! Screw the Middle East oil. Screw the oil companies. They have raised the price for record profits for themselves...the f*cking vultures. Let's put an end to this nonsense.

We have plenty of oil for decades to come. We need to increase nuclear power and think of using energy more efficiently, but don't succumb to fear and demand a more powerful nanny state.

70% of our consumption is spent on transportation - deal with that issue. I am against increased federal power regarding this situation, but go right ahead and cut back on your personal consumption, it couldn't hurt.

Kreskin's picture

Oil = big big money , the government and powers that be don't want to do anything about getting off oil and the invasion and occupation of Iraq was and is about nothing else but trying to get control of Iraqi oil , this war on terror was and is a farce , the only ones in the entire world who do not know and understand this are ignorant dumb ass Americans . Greed which is now a virtue , is going to do this country in .

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1's picture

Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:

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Opperation
Iraq
Liberation

... "No Sir, we can't be that obvious."

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... And now they serve us...

Opperation
Iranian
Lies

Great retorts people...!

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Chris's picture

When Tom Ridge left his cushy post, he was given a seat on the Board of Directors of Home Depot. I stopped shopping at Home Depot and continue to boycott them for just that reason. I recently wrote to them and asked if he was still with them, they answered me but sent me to a web page that told me nothing. I wrote back and said they did not answer my question. They did not reply. So, if you want to continue to support this criminal administration, keep spending your money with their friends. I have a list of companies I will not do business with and locally, if I know a merchant is a Republican, I go somewhere else. If the majority of Democrats are so enmeshed in the filth that is this administration and will not make them accountable, then we the people the can do at least this much. Hit them where it will hurt them the most, the wallet. BTW, Ms Pelosi and Steny Hoyer need to be removed any positions of power. Citizens of those states, begin the removal process.

Close GItmo's picture

WAtch this RIDGE

and INVADING COUNTRY did

http://www.archive.org/details/nazi_concentration_camps

Rosanne's picture

And @ 4:

As he should, if he wants to keep that Republican card in his wallet, and he won't get his cut from the no-bid contracts that Shell, BP, Total and Exxon are working on right now.

The most important thing is that the Republicans are finally coming out and saying what the war was really about : OIL.

In related news : Congressional Democrats do nothing.

Geez, Ive been saying for YEARS that the war was all about oil. Does that make me a pundit????

Congressional dems wont be able to do jackshit as long as prez fucksupalot has veto power, signing statements and exec privilege. WTF, there's only so much you can do against those big guns. Granted the dems arent on the ball but they will be better than another 4 years of rethug maladministration, dont you think???

Aside to the gov: Hey tommy get your ass back to Pennsylvania and STFU so that you wont continue to embarrass us!

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