Tom Ridge links the Iraq War to Iran to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow: Oil
Tom Ridge takes up the usual discredited conservative talking point that if our troops leave Iraq, al-Qaeda and Iran will control everything there---including all the oil fields on FOX News Sunday. Man, there certainly are a lot of terrorists running around in Iraq now. Didn't the administration tell us that al-Qaeda has been defeated in Iraq already? Oh, right ---so now it's Iran. Iran is running around in Iraq now...
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Wallace: ...as part of your answer, at what point does Sen McCain say we do have to turn it over to the Iraqis.
Ridge: Well I think again, it depends on the situation on the ground as the NY Times is reporting...blah, blah, blah..it is a central venue in this war against terror...blah, blah. blah..the lind of support we provided Germany and South Korea....(sorry, I couldn't transcribe it all. I just couldn't get myself to do it.)
The old situation on the ground trick with a dash of Germany and South Korea. How did that line work for McCain? There's greater and greater control, but watch out. It could fall apart as soon as we leave! He really wants to say the word "never." Just say it Ridge. You can do it. So can McCain and Kristol and Bush and Cheney. I don't know why they just don't get honest and say something like:
Ridge: We never want to turn Iraq back over to the Iraqis because we want their oil, Chris. Is that plain enough for you?
Wallace: Certainly Gov. Ridge, thanks for being so candid with us. You heard it right here folks on FNS. McCain never wants to leave Iraq. Back after the break.
I guess terrorists reconstitute like bunnies--or something...The Iraqi people will not let Iran have control over their land. Hey, Tom---the American people aren't buying that line. It's so 2004.
(h/t Heather. She really helped big time on Sunday.)




Say what you want about The Ridge, that name demands respect!
We already knew that.
Waxman is on C-Span2 summarizing and stating all the fraud in Iraq from his hearings.
The list is long and our government is broken.
Time to shut it down and lock up all the criminals.
Ridge too.
One of the real hard-line right-wing conservatives in our local paper just did a piece yesterday about how much Iraqis hated al Qaeda in Iraq. I wrote a snarky letter to the paper about how we lefty bloggers had been saying that for awhile now.
I said that we predicted long ago that if the US leaves Iraq, al Qaeda in Iraq will very shortly cease to exist. I'm sure our guy was spitting mad to get my letter!
As he should, if he wants to keep that Republican card in his wallet, and he won't get his cut from the no-bid contracts that Shell, BP, Total and Exxon are working on right now.
The most important thing is that the Republicans are finally coming out and saying what the war was really about : OIL.
In related news : Congressional Democrats do nothing.
More about oil:
Put oil firm chiefs on trial, says leading climate change scientist
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And Afghanistan:
A nation as yet unbuilt
wow, you got a lot more out of that than I did. when I watch it all I hear is:
blah blah blah .. blah blah blah blah blah.. blah blah blah..
it goes on for a long time like that until thankfully, it ends.
What word or phrase does Gov. Tom Ridge start to say before he says "war on terror", theres a click, sounds like it was edited out.
at about 41 seconds, begins with C to my ears.
now it's.." we hope there isn't any casualties"......get a grip ridge there will be casualties...they know it and so do we. they want to occupy many areas of the country to protect the oil companies......the u.s. military occupying,allies of israel and christians......iran isn't going to have it and u.s. knows it......that's why there trying to stir it up now so they can bomb iran's oil/public infrastructure
Tom Ridge links the Iraq War to Iran to the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...
Sinsimillian Gold?
I'll smoke to that.
These evil fuckers never stop lying. Eventually we will leave Iraq and the country will be taken over by people who despise our asses.
now all of a sudden the new york times is his friendly reference
"I guess terrorists reconstitute like bunnies–or something…"
They're made of liquid metal.
It's like I said yesterday, the bullshit meter is pegged and the military industrial mediatainment petro pharma complex knows it.
Why not just come out and say what's up, no need to lie, we the people and our representatives are powerless as proven over the
past few years, and culminating in Obama's shortsighted but politically astute stand on FISA!
fooked
proper fooked lads, we are!
Faux edited out something Ridge said at 41 seconds.
And the citizens of Fewbadapplestan will greet us as liberators.
I think Tom should cut back on the Kook-Aid. He seems to be unaware that Never Never Land no longer exists. It’s in foreclosure.
I saw this incompetent turd on TV yesterday. The funniest thing was when he got all bent out of shape when Tom Dashele kept referring to McDipshit as McCain/Bush and Bush’s third term. Ridge got all hot and bothered and was saying (and I paraphrase) “McCain will not be the third Bush term. WOULD YOU STOP SAYING THAT!!!!” He was very bitter. I think it is getting to them.
McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush McCain/Bush
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
perpetual war and occupation...the government working for the capitalists
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/revealed-secret-plan...
Off Topic:
George Carlin died of heart failure. Dman.
Good travels, George. Man, did you ever make me laugh and think at the same time.
I reckon hes says 'combat zone' which doesnt sit well with what the Repugs claim is happening in Iraq.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 20:
that's what i was thinking also.........they want war on terror not against a country and has no boundries they want to be able to attack anywhere...i guess combat doesn't equate to that not in the linquistic talking points manual
obama's people should be all over this point..then again maybe obama isn't going to be able to get us out either
Wallace: Certainly Gov. Ridge, thanks for being so candid with us. You heard it right here folks on FNS. McCain never wants to leave Iraq. Back after the break.
karl @ 21:
Gov. Tom Ridge is one of the few Republicans to not be a chickenhawk,
he actually served in Vietnam winning combat medals.
so his language isnt of the typical bland Republican chickenhawk variety with their PR oriented focus, and double speak.
I think that this guy is just a corrupt repuke. This person will say any bs.
I think that also this S.O.B is with Home Depot now.
Joe Biden said it again on MTP. If we get the hell out then the Iraqis will kick Al Qaeda’s but out in a few days. Why are these Republicans so dense?
'Fair and balanced' ie Faux editing for broadcast a politicians spoken words to match the Bushco crime families agenda.
1942tyu @ 24:
Who needs a conventional military when we have Home Depot and Blackwater...
just beware when you go for that min wage job at HD, they dont transfer you to a store some place hot and dangerous ;)
And @ 4:
Remember, our foray into Iraq was originally called Operation Iraqi Liberation.
The thing about McCain, Lieberman and Bush and now this turd Ridge, is they will never be able to solve the war because they do not understand it. They do not understand the players. Lieberman says Al Qaeda would be in control of Iraq today? That is just STUPID!!! The Iraqis will kick their sorry butts out (no matter what McCain and his best buddy forever thinks) in a matter of hours after the U.S. leaves. The Iraqis hate Al Qaeda as much as they hate the U.S. for invading. You can bet your bottom $ that no Iraqi will be told what to do by some Al Qaeda nut who all of Iraq hate. McCain (and it looks like Lieberman as well) does not even know who Al Qaeda is. Obviously the same is true with Bush and Ridge. All you will see of Al Qaeda is the dust they kick up as they run for Afghanistan. Iraq will kick Al Qaeda out just like they will do to the Iranians, "Thanks for the help. Now get the hell out." They don’t get the dynamics of country being invade by foreign powers. What would happen if the U.S. pulled out of Iraq immediately? What would happen next? This is what would happen - The Shia tell Iran "Thanks for the help, now leave. Get out of our country." That is the part the neocon war mongers can't seem to understand. Everybody says that Iran will take over Iraq. Or they will have so much influence that Iraq will essentially become part of Iran. Well that will NOT happen. Iraq is Iraq. They don't want to be told what to do by Iran. Just like they don’t want to be told what to do by the U.S. Remember when Saddam invaded Kuwait, Saudi Arabia let the U.S. stage in their country to throw Saddam out of Kuwait. And Egypt helped the coalition in that war. Both those countries are Sunni. Saddam was Sunni. In fact Egypt harbored an exiled Saddam many years ago but Egypt helped throw Saddam out of Kuwait. Being from the same sect did not help Saddam. Saddam didn't listen to Saudi Arabia when it came to Kuwait and Saudi Arabia is Sunni like Saddam. Saudi Arabia let the coalition stage in Saudi Arabia to attack Saddam, a Sunni. Why would Iraq listen to any other country, i.e. Iran or Syria or anybody else? Why would they let Iran tell them what to do? So you see that just because part of Iraq and Iran are the same sect you cannot assume that Iraqi Shia will let Iranian Shia tell them what to do. The Iraqis are only letting Iran help them because Iraq wants the U.S. out! As far as the Kurds go they have it figured out. They're having BBQ on Saturday nights (probably). And the Sunni? They will have to figure out how to have their own area. Joe Bidden knows how this will work out. Most of them have left the country anyway. It will work out without us. The neocon war profiteers don't get it or they want this war to continue for financial reasons. You know this. I know this. 82% of the U.S. knows this. Getting out is the dilemma. The Republicans think that staying in is the delima. I'm sure the military can figure out how the hell to leave. They don't have to worry about all the junk they brought with them. Most of it is trash at this time anyway. It's worn out. Used up. Just get on a plane and leave. Remember Iraq was better off with Saddam. I've said it many times. Nobody wanted to say it at the time but it is true. Iraq will have to sell their oil to somebody just like Venezuela. So you see there is no problem. Pack up and leave. Let's pack it up and leave tomorrow. You are either with me or... um... ah... won't get fooled again.
Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 25:
translated, the Iraqis will send packing the TLA sponsored mercs and thugs.
se the problem is that this works because it appeals to the general selfishness americans embody. It is the same as arguing the economy. Somehow there is a perception that this oil now belongs to us..
17 Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo
Shouldn't that be
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha?
Or even boosh's dry heh...heh...heh
Like he's choking on another pretzel
Or a baby wanting his baba?
eventually, one of the fucks is going to tell the truth - that this was the plan drawn up by cheney with ken lay's help.
Dr. Acula @ 28:
that must have been a panic stricken OMFG moment and a mad rush to change the PR releases.
Remember , this is a booshy talking , and this is Faux. It's a like a lie wrapped in a fallacy locked in an untruth encased in horse shit.
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087
saudi meeting won't see this on u.s. media short video they don't see supply problem
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85087
Is that diKKKwad channeling his inner McC*nt?
Is he trying to link Iran and Al CIAda as well?
WTF!?
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Opperation
Iraq
Liberation
... "No Sir, we can't be that obvious."
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Maybe (preorbital) ridge should be representing this gubmint
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYCOyaIUCSo
OT but hilariou in its way of showing up McCain as slow, dim witted, and years behind the times.
McCain Pushes Battery R&D
The thieving warmongering Republicans will happily spend aprox $1800 per man woman and child in the US for some lunatic war of overseas aggression,
yet will only propose spending $1 per person on advanced electic vehicle technology.
Big oil and Bushco corruption wins YET AGAIN.
$550,000,000,000 compared to $300,000,000 notice theres nearly a two thousand difference ratio.
When Sec. of Treasury McNeil was on 60 Minutes way back in Bush's first term, just after he left the administration, he had a bunch of papers. As he was being interviewed, he showed those papers. One of them was a map of Iraq with areas divided into oil exploration areas. I went online and found that map and made a hard copy. Everytime I get a chance I show it to anybody who says this occupation was about anything except oil. This whole deal was in the works from day one of Bush's administration, probably before.
"As the New York Times has reported..."
Where have I heard that line before?
Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:
Linberating
I ran
Against all
Reason
Soon
I thought is was all supposed to be puppies and roses and all things nice in the world of Bushco oil prices this week !!!!!
Maybe people dont believe the BS these days.
Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 29:
I tend to believe that they understand what they are doing, which is prolonging the war and creating lies to distort the view of their plans. they obviously want to control all mideast oil, but the Saudis have their oilfields protected with nuclear mines(half-life is 500,000 years.
Iraq and Iran were british fiefdoms and were thus not able to develop or protect their oilfields the way the saudis have done. so the shock doctrine was employed, with some success, in Iraq and the plan is to do the same in Iran.
If Bolton is correct in his statement that Israel will attack Iran after the election, should Obama become president-elect, then there is a really huge problem. Are russia and China supposed to stand idly by while anglo-american oil companies gobble up the middle-east?
they have been getting salpped in the face by the boosh admin for seven years and by the clinton admin before that. they may be running out of patience and feeling a bit cornered. since outr conventional forces are beyond exhaustion, the only weapons left are missiles.
say goodbye to sunlight.
karl @ 36:
There was a rather relevant and topical discussion on CNN by the Bimbos this morning about breakfast diets.
xoites defends Constitution @ 43:
sponsored by the NYTimes/CNN coalition for propaganda.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 46:
I made a sarky comment to my wife about the anorexic TV bimbos eating a slice of Ryvita and a grape for brekkers,
sure enough one mentioned her breakfast and grapes in the same breath.
Jo @ 41:
do you remember the cheney 'energy policy' meeting in the whitehouse? the ones with the attendee lists that the whitehouse won't disclose? Remember the maps that were reviewed in those meetings. I believe that the maps you refer to were those maps.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 46:
Cable News Network, sounds rather impressive, almost like they should have news and current affairs on it...
Time for a million man march on congress!!! Why the hell are they dragging their feet??
Bush/Cheney now publicly understood to be war criminals, war profiteers, and democracy destroyers.
Just how bad does it have to get before we march into town there, and get them back to doing their most important job??????
Underground Pirate @ 51:
Ten million with pitchforks and everybody holding a copy of and chanting the Constitution.
Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:
Oil
Iran
Lies
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan @ 49:
That's what I believe also.
Its got to be illegal (in another alt dimension) for gov officials and politicians conspiring with corporations in deciding to invade, occupy, and carve up another county's natural resources.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 55:
Sounds like a dose of Fascism to me. And it ain't illegal in this country if the Fascists do it.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 55:
Alberto Gonzales says NO! It is all for national security. You see, it makes us more secure to amass massive war debt and deaths and to kill hundreds of thousands of "foreigners" and to totally ignore the constitution. Get with it dude!
Seems to me that the right is now admitting that the rationale for invasion of Iraq was based on total bullshit. However , they have decided they may as well steal what they can while they are there. I think November will be too late to kick these scumbags to the curb. Ridge was rewarded for his bullshit terror alerts by being named to Home Depots board. They sure appreciated his help unloading plywood and duct tape to the frightwingers.
I may be mistaken but wasn't it Ridge who wanted us to wrap our houses in plastic and duct tape in case of a second attack (or a dirty bomb attack)?
If so, how does this guy have ANY credability?
In case anyone wants to see the oil map I was referring to........
http://judicialwatch.org/IraqOilMap.pdf
someone want to explain to me why ridge isnt testifying on capitol hill everyday about why, as the head of homeland security, he used the colored alerts to scare people into voting republican??
why isnt this fucker in prison??
why arent i on fox kicking the shit out of him??
why am i so fucking angry all the time???
bert @ 59:
and we would all rush out and buy this plastic film and duct tape from maybe Home Depot !
sounds just another example of revolving door policy between the gov and
MICNYTWorld BankHome DepotGreen Zone LandJohnJoe's touring clown showUnderground Pirate @ 53:
That's pretty cool. You have Oil going up and down and from left to right. The only thing you don't have going from left to right are the people who read it.
McCain and Lieberman take their $300M battery based electric car on the campaign trail
Uncle Joe Mccarthy @ 61:
Not enough f*****g?
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 55:
certainly, our leadership can't do anything illegal! it's the law according to noxin.
ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 64:
it must be a general electric product.
ysbaddaden @ 65:
I thought it was because the white alerts didn't scare anyone.
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan @ 67:
Made in China by exploited workers.
When we finally withdraw our imperial occupying military forces of some 300,000 soldiers and Hessians from the Republic of Iraq, Iraqis will be running Iraq and the puppet regime will collapse and all of its laws and its so-called no-bid oil contracts with Exxon, Shell, BP, Total and Chevron will be null and void. Imagine Iraqis running Iraq. What's next? Afghanis running Afghanistan? 15 of the 19 box-cutter high-jackers were Saudi nationals; none of the others were Afghanis...
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan @ 68:
Aren't those issued by the Klan?
They don't even like colored lights.
Maybe the Homland Security color coding could stand some tweaking from the Queer Eye guys
Like puce and mauve alerts.
james k. sayre @ 70:
Theres serious doubt as to who some of them really were, some of the hijackers carried stolen passports.
Go check out the foreign press esp the BBCs coverage of the passport angle.
Many unanswered questions, 9/11 basically boils down to Bushco incompetence in not heeding warnings from everybody and their dog before the events, and criminality in covering up their incompetence in not heeding the warnings, and exploiting the tragedy to launch one or two illegal wars.
Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:
Sounds like Simpson's dialogue ...
Seriously libs, if we just killed all those brown people in Iran/Iraq then we'd have their oil fields and all kinds of new jobs for hard working Americans. We could balance the budget and ship people from Detroit to the middle east to work on the oil fields. They're used to living in a war zone.
xoites defends Constitution @ 63:
Only
Indicted
Libby ...
Americans died when our 'vacation' president mumbled his way through that book and sat there like a scared rabbit,
Americans died and half a city became homeless during Katrina , when our holiday president was munching birthday cake with McC*nt in 05.
Americans died and thousands made homeless in Iowa while our still lame duck president quacks his way around the world on PR events.
Mr. Anon @ 74:
One million dead Iraqis, two ro four million displaced and 160,000 contractors in Iraq screams that IS THE PLAN.
21st century imperialism.
Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:
To which DICK Cheney replied, "So what?"
Ridge wants the oil for his fleet enema and his hair, not necessarily in that order.
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan @ 67:
Obama should offer $301M
He's been quiet the past few years. A VP slot under McCain wouldn't win him PA, no doubt, as I'm a PA resident.
I laughed about the "blah, blah, blah" in Crooks and Lairs quote, and then I watched the quicktime movie. It did have me thinking "blah, blah, blah". It's amazing how the Bush administration has trained Tom Ridge to parrot so many fascist zombie phrases. Usually Tom Ridge can barely vocalize "Uhhh brains", and yet here he is reciting everything Carl Rove taught him. Amazing!
82 Ghostwolf Says: I laughed about the “blah, blah, blah” in Crooks and Lairs quote,
We're not all wolves and need not den up in our lairs.
I'm so afraid of Al Queda oil wildcatters, dropping those wells every time we turn our backs! They must be stopped - before they ever start - no, wait, before they even think of it! Kill them quick before they think!!!
Thank God for Exxon Mobil, true patriots, protecting us from evil oil wildcatters.
In other words, he's admiting that this whole atrocity was never about anything other than confiscatig Iraq's oil.
Translation: We screwed up bad but can't accept accountability for our failures because it's unRepublican, you need to stick with us to the end because we screwed up so bad all the good options we had before we screwed up are now gone.
There's oil fields on Fox News Sunday?
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And @ 4:
Democrats are Impotent.
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Trittydi @ 88:
Oooooooops -- I meant "Congressional Democrates" ~
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And @ 4:
PLEASE STOP CALLING IT A WAR. IT WAS AN INVASION. IRAQ IS AN OCCUPIED COUNTRY.
Certainly he's not implying that things would have been more stable if Bushco would have swallowed their pride and actually used a little diplomacy with Saddam, is he? That Bushco screwed up "big-time?"
Wouldn't it be something else if we were energy independent??? We could be. If we didn't give a rat's ass what oil was doing in the Middle East?
Wow...what a thought. What kind of a world would it be for us in the USA then? Let the Chinese have all the oil they want to buy from the Middle East.
We have our head so far up our collective asses.
Hey, how about rationing of gasoline? Everyone over the age of driving....16, or whatever age you want to accept gets a coupon for 5 gallons of gas per week. That's it. You can sell it on the black market if you want to..but we have a LIMITED SUPPLY!!
Shit, we aren't doing anything else for this war. We rationed totally during WWII. We are doing NOTHING today.
Let's rely on WHAT WE HAVE!! Screw the Middle East oil. Screw the oil companies. They have raised the price for record profits for themselves...the f*cking vultures. Let's put an end to this nonsense.
There are oil fields on Fox News Sunday?
Oil is a fungible commodity, Tom, and our imports are covered by many countries whose names do not begin with I. The squandering of American taxpayer's money and blood only creates more longterm problems.
Do you know how many barrels two trillion dollars could buy?
What happened in PA, Tom? Congrats on that promotion, I see you are still paying for it.
Hulk @ 93:
We have plenty of oil for decades to come. We need to increase nuclear power and think of using energy more efficiently, but don't succumb to fear and demand a more powerful nanny state.
70% of our consumption is spent on transportation - deal with that issue. I am against increased federal power regarding this situation, but go right ahead and cut back on your personal consumption, it couldn't hurt.
Oil = big big money , the government and powers that be don't want to do anything about getting off oil and the invasion and occupation of Iraq was and is about nothing else but trying to get control of Iraqi oil , this war on terror was and is a farce , the only ones in the entire world who do not know and understand this are ignorant dumb ass Americans . Greed which is now a virtue , is going to do this country in .
Embittered & Anti-Republicrat - Max-Hussein-1 @ 38:
... And now they serve us...
Opperation
Iranian
Lies
Great retorts people...!
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When Tom Ridge left his cushy post, he was given a seat on the Board of Directors of Home Depot. I stopped shopping at Home Depot and continue to boycott them for just that reason. I recently wrote to them and asked if he was still with them, they answered me but sent me to a web page that told me nothing. I wrote back and said they did not answer my question. They did not reply. So, if you want to continue to support this criminal administration, keep spending your money with their friends. I have a list of companies I will not do business with and locally, if I know a merchant is a Republican, I go somewhere else. If the majority of Democrats are so enmeshed in the filth that is this administration and will not make them accountable, then we the people the can do at least this much. Hit them where it will hurt them the most, the wallet. BTW, Ms Pelosi and Steny Hoyer need to be removed any positions of power. Citizens of those states, begin the removal process.
WAtch this RIDGE
and INVADING COUNTRY did
http://www.archive.org/details/nazi_concentration_camps
And @ 4:
Geez, Ive been saying for YEARS that the war was all about oil. Does that make me a pundit????
Congressional dems wont be able to do jackshit as long as prez fucksupalot has veto power, signing statements and exec privilege. WTF, there's only so much you can do against those big guns. Granted the dems arent on the ball but they will be better than another 4 years of rethug maladministration, dont you think???
Aside to the gov: Hey tommy get your ass back to Pennsylvania and STFU so that you wont continue to embarrass us!
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