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Anyone who takes comfort in John Dean's assessment here that the FISA bill capitulation at least has the prospect of telecoms criminal prosecution under, it would be presumed, an Obama administration is not well versed in practical matters.

It is more informative to take in account Jonathan Turley's assessment here. This bill makes the law conform to previous illegal practice. Supposing that the telecoms would be prosecuted while the government actors and enablers get off scott free is grasping at straws.

It won't happen.

This bill is CYA.

Jonathan Turley on the FISA capitulation here.

The NASA scientist that wants the CEO's of the oil companies to be tried for high crimes against humanity, may well be onto something...I think it's a damn fine idea!

liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation @ 7:

The NASA scientist that wants the CEO's of the oil companies to be tried for high crimes against humanity, may well be onto something...I think it's a damn fine idea!

It would be a nice start but everyone would have to walk to the court house and leave their gas guzzlers at home.

I would, but how many others?

ysbaddaden @ 10:

7 liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation

The only problem is what kind of pollution does NASA cause?

They use jets to transport shuttle crafts from landing sites if not at Edwards AFB (my old base).

And I understand that there's some island that gets money from us because all our space launches cause some kind of environmental problem for them, maybe acid rain.

I always thought Acid Rain was the name of a rock and roll group.

L.A. Confidential @ 3:

Psycho Path Nation

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Translated.

I don't know if the public gets it, but when the scientists are talking about tipping points that cause mass extinctions, they are including us among the number of those who face extinction. when the ecosphere collapses at it's very bottom hierarchy, everything above it collapses at an even faster rate. and the porblem with tipping points is that they are driven by inflection points in rates of change, and if you are riding the curve of change, inflection points never become apparent until long, long after they have been passed.

Not only are the titans of industry who have milked their hegemony over energy for profit and gain high criminals against humanity and nature, but so also are all the politicians who have sold humanity down the river in exchange for their little piece of power and a chance to ride on the gravey train that rolls on biscuit wheels. My bet is that nothing will be done until it is too late, until attempts at remediation will make no difference at all. Greed by the powerful trumps all other concerns, including it appears, their own survival.

♠Bangkok Bob♥ @ 11:

ysbaddaden @ 10:

7 liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation

The only problem is what kind of pollution does NASA cause?

They use jets to transport shuttle crafts from landing sites if not at Edwards AFB (my old base).

And I understand that there's some island that gets money from us because all our space launches cause some kind of environmental problem for them, maybe acid rain.

I always thought Acid Rain was the name of a rock and roll group.

I always made that joke.

But then maybe I got it confused with one of my favorite albums Purple Rain.

Paul @ 15:

I don't know if the public gets it, but when the scientists are talking about tipping points that cause mass extinctions, they are including us among the number of those who face extinction. when the ecosphere collapses at it's very bottom hierarchy, everything above it collapses at an even faster rate. and the porblem with tipping points is that they are driven by inflection points in rates of change, and if you are riding the curve of change, inflection points never become apparent until long, long after they have been passed.

Not only are the titans of industry who have milked their hegemony over energy for profit and gain high criminals against humanity and nature, but so also are all the politicians who have sold humanity down the river in exchange for their little piece of power and a chance to ride on the gravey train that rolls on biscuit wheels. My bet is that nothing will be done until it is too late, until attempts at remediation will make no difference at all. Greed by the powerful trumps all other concerns, including it appears, their own survival.

Well put. It begs the question, Where will the Titans go once the planet is destroyed.
Again, I think they are banking on it all lasting just long enough for their greedy lives to burn out and to hell with everything that would or could come next.

ysbaddaden @ 10:

7 liberalDAPofDESTINYmoderation

The only problem is what kind of pollution does NASA cause?

They use jets to transport shuttle crafts from landing sites if not at Edwards AFB (my old base).

And I understand that there's some island that gets money from us because all our space launches cause some kind of environmental problem for them, maybe acid rain.

They're a polluter, no doubt, though nowhere near as big a polluter as Americas consumers. And I think it's VITAL to explore space. We will need to colonize other planets for the human race to survive long term, if we don't kill ourselves off first.
And I watch a TON of docs about the space program, and they're constantly working to make launching rockets and crews into space as green as possible, it just that our abilities have yet to catch up with our theories. so to speak...I am confident we'll get there though...

Over at Firedoglake Jane Hamsher is asking for folks to call their Senators about the retroactive immunity.

FISA: Call Your Wobbly FISA Senator
By: Jane Hamsher Tuesday June 24, 2008 9:07 am

It's no secret, the Senate is getting ready to follow the House's lead and screw us on FISA, letting telecom criminals off the hook. (For a real belly full of disgust, read this article on a preening Steny Hoyer in Politico. Did he write it himself?)

http://firedoglake.com/

SPREAD THE WORD...

###This clip from Lilly Tomlin in her Ernestine the Phone operator so applies to the Telecoms. I would put money on it that Lilly would do a more present time piece. Lilly is amazing. Where are you Lilly Tomlin

Watch the whole clip
"One Ringy Dingy" Classic Lilly Tomlin on the phone companies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9e3dTOJi0o

Crooks and Liars could use this clip..Shazam!

Dobson doesn't understand - or at least follow - the Bible very well, and he sure doesn't understand or follow the Constitution.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! OMG! Yes, yes I felt so threatened on fathers day, I looked at my son and realized gay married people were going to destroy our day together. So distraught I was, I took him out for ice cream and spent the day with my boy. Evil gay people! Just knowing they were getting married as my boy and I spent time with each other was too much.

The THE FISA AMENDMENTS ACT OF 2008 is a direct assault on the Bill of Rights and nobody gives a shit. Not Bush, not Cheney, not Pelosi, not Reid.

Americans are asleep.

Corporate Marquis run the show. They place their political puppets in power to protect their power - weapons, pharmaceuticals, oil, communications, media, ...

The time is right for fighting in the streets.

Slightly OT but exciting news nonetheless...
http://tinyurl.com/3o8fax