Feingold on FISA "Compromise": "It's not even a fig leaf; it's a joke."
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Jun 24, 2008 6:30pm
Senator Russ Feingold joined Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! Tuesday to speak out about the reprehensible FISA "compromise" brokered by House Leader Steny Hoyer. Feingold has always been the most articulate and outspoken voice on Constitutional liberties, and he sure didn't hold back.
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SEN. RUSS FEINGOLD: It's not even a fig leaf; it's a joke. It does not in any way prevent the ruling from that court, basically automatically, of immunity, because it just involves saying, "Look, they've got a piece of paper from the government." This is nothing but Democrats trying to pretend that they're doing something here. They are doing nothing. They're giving in. [Missouri Republican] Senator Kit Bond is basically giggling at the fact that the Republicans and the administration got essentially everything they want on this. It's sadly a great failure on the part of the Democratic majority that was elected in 2006 primarily to get us out of Iraq, but also significantly to protect the Constitution of the United States. This is not a proud moment.
Do you hear that, Democrats? The GOP is laughing at your craven weakness. Hell, your approval numbers are higher with Republicans than they are with the people who put you in power to supposedly protect their rights. Do what you were elected to do and filibuster this bill until the real intelligence gaps are closed and the telecoms are compelled to prove they didn't violate federal law by helping the most unpopular President in American history spy on us.
When, precisely, did it become unfashionable (even taboo) to stand strong on protecting core American values? Have we really allowed George Bush to fundamentally alter the character of our country? Be sure to tune into CSPAN-2 tomorrow to see whether or not there are any true leaders in the Democratic party willing to fight the good fight.
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I call upon Steve Cohen to earn his damn paycheck and filibuster... and no, Steve, I don't care that you are "up to your ass in alligators" as you are so fond of saying -- you wanted to go to Washington, we voted you in, now just DO IT.
wait, screw the filibuster, just IMPEACH fer chrissakes!
you go, feingold! you speaking the trufe, dog!!
I was waiting for this to appear.
The last two John Stewarts I DL'd from here both had "Democracy Now, Russ Feingold" tagged as the headers and was wondering what was up.
Has a vote been scheduled for tomorrow? I thought that a vote on the bill has been delayed for a couple of weeks.
I find it disappointing but unsurprising that after 30 years of conservative corporate propaganda, our culture has been steeped in enough right-wing talking points that even many the Democrats think it's a good idea to sell the Fourth Amendment in order to pay for immunity for the telecom companies.
While this battle is about FISA, the war is about campaign finance reform, and getting the influence of the corporations out of Congress. Let's win the battle AND win the war.
I don't live in San Francisco, so I can't vote Nancy Pelosi out of office.
We can whine all we want about this, but it boils down to this woman: She could have prevented thist. She is obviously favoring the Bush administration, protecting them from consequences for their past and future behavior.
She needs to be bombarded with questions until she answers SOMETHING truthfully!
NANCY PELOSI SHOULD BE VOTED OUT OF OFFICE FOR HER SUPPORT OF FISA!
I called Claire McCaskill's office this morning and the lady that answered said she hadn't come out with a stand and she then ASKED me what I thought. I told her!!! Outlining the cover Feinstein and Pelosi and many others gain from this capitulation.
I called Bond next (I live in St. Louis) and his aid laughed when I asked his stand. We both laughed.
Obama is pissing me off hard, although finding out Reid is against the measure makes it a little better.
GO RUSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
ckukahiko @ 3:
why is russ a dog?
Have we really allowed George Bush to fundamentally alter the character of our country?
We haven't, but our elected officials have. Call it corruption, call it fear, call it an overreaction to 9/11 - they've sold Democracy down the river.
The whole thing is like a Gary Larson strip:
What You Say: "We are a nation of laws. You cannot retroactively grant immunity to lawbreakers without undermining the principles on which this nation was founded."
What They Hear: "blah blah blah nation blah blah blah grant immunity blah blah blah."
I've wanted Russ Feingold to run for president for so long now. I know he says he won't, but I think he'd be fantastic.
One might think that Pelosi's constituents would engineer a recall election or something. She must go. Ditto Reid. It's time to ditch the legacy of Tom Daschle and follow the likes of Kucinich or Feingold.
Cloture Vote 80-15
McCaskill voted for Cloture, fuck her.
Obama, Clinton and McCain didn't vote.
Fuck them all.
Just separate and join Canada. I am sick of having to cross a border to get someplace warm.
p.s. Send the Repulicans to Utah.
Every "democrat" (I use the word loosely) who votes for this bill needs to be replaced when their vote cycle comes up. It will send a clear signal to anyone who decides they want to go to Washington to represent us. They will either do the job we hired them to do (we do after all foot the bill) or they get fired. No games, no chances, if they want to be a repig they should join that party. If we start holding them all accountable they won't be so lax in their duties.
I have written my Senators.
This bill is a travesty.
Telecom immunity is only the lightning rod, there is much more to this treachery. It makes legal much of what was ILLEGAL that was done by Bush and known about by the Congress while the Democrats were campaigning on civil liberties and the need for the rule of law.
IT IS WHAT ANY CRIMINAL WOULD LOVE TO DO
.
As Jonathan Turley puts it here with KO:
2.22 …change the law to conform to past conduct, it is what any criminal would love to do. That is you rob a bank, then you go to the legislature to change the law to say that robbing banks is lawful.
If I wanted to live in a nation that made no pretense of loving liberty, I'd choose the old Confederacy, or today's Russia or North Korea. This is the United States of America, goddammit, people come here to get away from shit like this, not to walk right into more of it.
This country is so damaged morally, legally, politically, economically that it may take 50 Fiengolds and Dodds and Kuchiniches (sp?) 10 years to get it back.
I don't sound confident do I ?
I know Hoyer and Pelosi wanted this off the table for the election. But it is so sad. With victories like this you just know during the next election in 2010, neocons will again be out there chipping away at our constitutional rights using the excuse of fear as a means to the end. If Pelosi and Hoyer don't have the guts for tough politics it is time they pass the reigns. The cons although fewer in numbers will be back to fight another day. Cave in after cave in to them only energizes the fascists among the repugs and demoralizes the progressive movement.
This guy will go down in history as one of the true patriots
Senator Feingold has displayed much character as an American and as a U.S.Senator.
He does WI proud.
Why is his quality and caliber so rare in WashingtonDC these days?
The Democratic Party surely has some explaining to do for what has taken place in WashingtonDC after the 2006 election.
For that matter for what took place after 9/11/2001 regarding the truly dismal and repeated cave-ins to Bush/Cheney WH and repeated GOP wrongs and abuses in WashingtonDC to game,play and score the system for worse of motives and desires.
Thank you Sen. Russ Feingold for being so rare in quality of character and decency.
As for those in the Democratic Party who appear confused about what party they are in or why it is different than the GOP perhaps it is time to get out and stay out.
After what was given to Democratic Party in November 2006 and then to have to witness how that elections results were thwarted,avoided or just plain voided there is no reason for several current Democratic Party "leaders" in Congress to do anything but leave.
That would be the decent and honorable thing to do
Senator Feingold deserves much respect and support fo his human and political integrity.
As for those others...and they are not difficult to find...have you no decency?
Its a damn shame there aren't more like Feingold in congress....
That's about all I got left to say about this FISA shit....
I've ranted long and hard and just as it seems to be the case with the few and far inbetween dems who oppose this monstrosity... It just doesn't seem to matter... The numbers favor the coverup. Yea, I'm beginning to think Bush has fundamentally altered the charactor of our country...for the worse.
These spineless politicians who will toss the bill of rights into the shitter for political expediancy is just one reflection of this... How do we stop this freighttrain to ruin and get our country back???? I don't know... Maybe it will take violence in the streets, maybe just a lot more people like Feingold voted into power making changes to undo this shit might get the ob done.... I just don't know anymore. We're are in some deep deep shit right now.. Even Obama is looking a little more squirrelly and less like a positive 'agent of change' than I ever thought a black man making history would ever allow himself to be made to look like on these issues. Just what the hell is his problem all of the sudden....JD
marko @ 14:
15 Patriots
Except for the recuperating Kennedy a plague on the remainder's houses.
progressive gatekeeper.
This whole god damn thing has been a joke since Fox News called the election for Bush and the Supreme Court interfered with the counting in Florida. Any senator or representative who is not investigating the crimes of the Bush Administration and not calling for charges of Treason or impeachment is a waste of time in my opinion.
It is a test of the American people and political system and we are failing.
*I think it was actually a cousin of George W. Bush working at the Fox News Desk that called Florida for Bush setting the precedent for the media parade in 2000.
Has the massive outpouring of outrage, voiced in the last few days, died down to the faint apathetic whisper yet?
Is Obama off the hook now, with all the people who were outraged at his lack of leadership, bs statements and blatant kow-towing to those determined to gut the Constitution?
Are those crickets I'm hearing?
Alice X @ 24:
Byrd is also recuperating, he is forgiven.
Twice a plague on the houses of the remainder.
assholes....nuff said
The Roll Call Vote.
Fox News calling florida for G.W. Bush on election night in 2000 was actually so a conspiracy.
"John Ellis, a cousin of Bush, helped make the decision to finally (and erroneously) call Florida for Bush in the wee hours of Election Night. " Salon.com
Is Obama off the hook now, with all the people who were outraged at his lack of leadership, bs statements and blatant kow-towing to those determined to gut the Constitution? Are those crickets I’m hearing?
CHANGE!
HOPE!
Um...and CHANGE!
and HISTORICAL!!!
(Lookit me, Mommy! I'm Progressive! I'm voting for the Black guy!! And anyone who doesn't is racist!!1)
Feingold has let me down as much as everyone else. They are just varying degrees of allowing this country to go down the tubes. He could be speaking out more forcefully as could we all. We could all be investigating the crimes of this administration more vigorously.
Yeah vote for Barack Obama. And watch him carjack your constitution.
As he drives off, he'll tell you he's just doing some valet parking. But you'll never see that car again.
Wow ...... that guy said something sensible ....... and he's something to do with politics ...... is there hope ?
John @ 27:
the PEOPLE will wake up when it's too late, they'll wake up when their ass is on the line, when their son or daughter are hauled off to gitmo for not supporting the dictator in chief. People are apathetic because they think, "It won't happen to me. This bill is actually aimed at making me safer from those evil doers".
Feingold is fantastic.
They had better filibuster. Barack better step up.
Hoyer-- I will remember this.
B
"Yeah well, i know i swore an oath to uphold the Constitution, but there was thing-this donation from AT&T I needed to stay in office..."
Fields of Mine @ 36
That's just like the German people when the Nazis rose to power. (Not a deliberate Godwin reference. It just happens to be true.)
If, in 20 or 30 years, America is finally taken down by a coalition of nations (probably led by the Russians and Chinese), the American people will have to shoulder their fare share of the blame, and the great experiment called America will finally be consigned to the scrapheap of history.
Once it passes it will be time to Repeal FISA.
No Russ it's not a joke! It's a vicious attack on the Constitution of the United States of America!
Harsh, but funny!
I'll preface this by saying that i love Russ and all, but i was a bit dismayed by his last line -- that "i'm sure Obama, when president, will work to fix this some of this..."
Call me a cynic, but i feel that's a rather naive (and i'm being generous), "party man" response to an entirely valid criticism of Obama.
I'm being polite because i respect what Russ has done as one of the few progressive voices in the legislature, but it still bothers me.
Other than that, kudos to him for at least participating in what should be an aggressive debate about this awful bill.
John @ 39:
Considering that the Nazis were preceded by the Kaisers, preceded in turn by the Holy Roman Emperors, the Nazis merely were more brutal and actually put into action a lot of traditional German beliefs and values. America has at least had a pretense of being some sort of representative state, admittedly for a long time representative of a very few people, but it will be harder to create a true fascism in the American system. Note, didn't say it wouldn't happen or it would be impossible, merely harder.
And true.
FMS @ 45:
I see. So McCain will HIJACK our Constitution but blcak people can't afford plane tickets so Obama will CARJACK our Constitution.
Yeah really racist-i mean funny.
kablooie @ 2:
lern2congress newb!
Impeachment starts in the House. Feingold is in the Senate. I'm sure given Feingold was the only Senator to vote against the PATRIOT act that if the impeachment articles ever get to the Senate, Feingold will support it.
I agree with you, and it's easier to impeach than break a filibuster, but if you're going to play in politics you should at least understand the teams.
78 gop filibusters .
Time for 1 dem filibuster.
General_Rennenkampf@44
I dunno. I think under the classical definition (of the merger of corporate interests to government) America is already fascist. I think you just mean it would be harder to have a nazi-like environment.
To which I would say, not really. America already has detention camps, torture, erosion of civil liberties, a handy scapegoat enemy, an ignorant population, a love of war, massive debt, rising unemployment, decaying infrastructure, a corrupt two party system, a compromised news service... There's a lot of the necessary things for very dark version of America already in place. All it will require is some time to either join the dots, or bring the whole festering mess to a slow boil.
KEEP THE PRESSURE!
Here's hoping and praying that the FISA does NOT go up for a vote this week.
Then with the 4th of July "recess" the voters can give the Senators a piece of our mind. We The People hired them to protect the Constitution.
Yes that includes the 4th Amendment ... not the $th amendment.
Remind your representatives that with a president at 23% and them lower, their vote on FISA is a vote for their firing!
Write, call, email, etc. Keep it going!
This FISA hysteria is starting to bug me and it seems to be a troll magnet to undermine our hopes. I will forever love Marcy 'emptywheel' over at Firedoglake for having the giant soul to observe that this issue may not be too compelling to a neighbor facing foreclosure. Duuh.
This is a horseshit non issue. These assholes would screw a phone tap or e mail query up. Look, I post here however frequently and some idiots decide I am a troll but many cowards here do not provide url right to their doorstep. I DO!!! I provide my real name while many hide behind dumb web handles. That URL leads right to me in Inman Square, Cambridge MA.
You can look me up and I'll buy you a beer at the Druid, Okay?
This thing will collapse of its own weight even if a bunch of chickenshit clowns hand it to addled W on a golden platter.
Meanwhile, most people are staring uneasily at the utter implosion of their hopes, very soon and they have been wildly swindled by a looter class determined to reduce them to serfdom. How is that less important than a transient worry about a symbolic possibility that may well amount to NOTHING given the clear and obvious incompetence of the antagonists.
Are you a bunch of pampered secure twits or what? I worked the underworld in the 70's. I know how effective 'the man' is at disrupting international smuggling operations. Answer: Hardly at all. And you think this stupid sleazy legal contraption will ever amount to a hill of shit?
Allow me to be charitable and just suggest you lead very, very sheltered lives.I am far more concerned with seeking ways to offset economic catastrophe and move deftly away from the fossil fuel ordeals.
Yo Fed. You wanna spy on my ridiculous utterly insignificant life?.. go nuts.. it will make you scream from the boredom.
We have far more pressing matters like getting the carbon load down to 350ppm ASAP, otherwise the planet shrivels like a frail flower in a furnace.
We need to inventory all the scams whereby the looter class took all our money. 401K anyone? Instead of just paying more we get this weird booby prize where we are promised more money, some day, if we only hand our potential raises over to mutual funds to play with and fuck up. How's your 401k these days?
What's with skyrocketing tuition? Universities are after all non profits who have huge endowments and own their own campuses free and clear. Who decided to make health care a business venture?ANd so on.
It fits the image, which makes it funny. And it's harder to valet park a plane.
And of course black people can afford plane tickets. Or did the 9-11 hijackers get theirs via frequent flyer miles?
FMS @ 49:
Yes, all of that is true, but one thing the Nazis had that ironically, the US Fascist movement lacks is a large, committed cadre of young men willing to go into the streets and break heads. The US citizenry, funnily enough, has been so doped up on American Idol that the group needed to form an SA is too focused on Paula Abdul and whether Britney Spears remembered her panties today or not.
corporations are not democracies. corporations determine the candidates with their campaign donations. this is the problem.
FMS @ 52:
Image = stereotype.
I guess "sandn@gger" (in your eyes) = black.
I have a few ideas what FMS means...
Russ never fails to impress me.
I'm too pissed to mention any of the other players in this farce.
bbl
General_Rennenkampf @ 53
Hm. I suggest you check out the movie/documentary Jesus Camp. And then give it a few years for the kids in that movie to grow up.
FMS @ 57:
I was raised as an Evangelical. Most kids down here couldn't give two shits about creating Tsarist America. Even in the Fundamentalist, Small-Town South, the Younger Generation doesn't give a damn.
Chris Rich @ 51:
Your entire argument is valid, but you forget one little, yet significant, detail the SYSTEM will be open to abuse.
There are no checks in place to prevent the government from going on a witch hunt for financial or economic reasons. You're missing the forest for the trees. It's not about spying on me or spying on my 13 year old daughter's chatter on the phone, but about using information in malevolent ways so as to affect the outcome of an election, a major corporate buy out, etc. This can have disastrous effects.
PS: What exactly are you inferring you did in the 70s? Is that supposed to impress us/me?
FMS @ 52:
Saudis are now black?
Man you've got your racist stereotypes all mixed up. Better call it quits and STFU.
None of this dampens the enthusiasm for the Obama candidacy.
He has us in his pocket, so he can safely turn his back on us.
OK , FISA. wiretapping, monitoring you private communications. hmmmm? Let's see.......
Well, some of you have heard of all the fires here in Calif,mostly in Northern Calif.
The Federal Govt has determined that this is an emergency. They dispatched 400 Federal workers to help in organizing the fight against all these fires.
Turns out, all 400 are federal officers coming in are from the FBI, ATF and the IRS .
hmmmmm?
yep, they were listening.
"I won't filibuster the bill." -Feingold.
Lip. Service.
every democrat that votes for this fisa fiasco
should be removed from office come november
and thrown under a fucking bus.
mudshark @ 62:
842 fires as of this morning. With more dry lightning due tomorrow.
The system is already utterly open to abuse and that piece of crap contraption will collapse of its own weight as other inexorable forces unhinge corporate game plans. What sort of facile gambit will work when they are already past a tipping point of credibility loss?
To answer your question, I worked with a weed cartel that regularly moved tons of contraband across US borders in the 70's and 80's. The kingpins are now all dead. I was just a janitor to the thing. But I soon learned about the huge canyon between what the Man would wish to do and what the Man practically can do and I for one am quite comfortable with the point spread, especially when we have utterly failed to apprehend our most horrific modern antagonist despite all these supposed amazing resources.
This attempt to subvert the constitution is doomed. Lincoln suspended habeas corpus but it was eventually restored after the Appomattox surrender. Weird anti constitutional shit was a regular feature of the Robber Baron phase and the red scare days of the early 19th century and then we have cold war nonsense and Joe McCarthy and the immolation of the Rosenbergs.
Do you really think this is New??? Our system basically flounders when these burdens are imposed on it and we all make more money and are more functional without them. This is my confidence in the American trajectory. It has odd idiotic spasms when threatened and then the whole mess falls apart from impracticality when we all safely resume the mindless money grubbing that is our end all be all as euromutt rejects.
Last night I got a fund raising call from the DSCC. I told the caller that I would not give the party a dime until they trash this piece of garbage excuse for national security. They don't seem to know where their bread is buttered. Obama's fund raising is down. The DNC needs money for the convention.
I will donate to my local candidates, but the party leaders don't have a clue. They think Republicans belong to the Democratic party. They want fascists to vote for them. What about us? What about half of America who has been waiting for somebody to do the right thing. Well, maybe in 2012. Sorry, Obama. I sincerely hope somebody in your campaign is reading this, but I think you are all too busy appealing to Dobson's flock to pay attention to me and everybody posting here.
And yes, I called my senators and Reid and Obama. They only care about politics. They don't care about the constitution. Feinstein's performance today told me all I need to know. CYA on display.
Apparently if there's any hope for change, it's not going to come from Obama. Too bad I was hopeful he had the balls.
America, welcome to your future. Obama will not save the Constitution because he is a tool of the machine. It's clear now that he doesn't care about you or your family. He doesn't care about holding George W. Bush, along with the telecom companies, accountable for their crimes. This whole episode proves it. America is truly dead as an idea. We are now under corporate, government fascist control. Obama will sell us out. Mark these words. You think he is a savior, but he is only out for power for power's sake. It's pathetic when members of the Dem party are speaking out against this bill. Where is he? He releases a pathetic statement that really is a non-statement. He's going to vote for the bill regardless of stripping the telecom immunity. He's not going to fight it. So when all the Obama supporters continue to gush over how handsome and well spoken he is, remember when he becomes president he will do more things like this. Fools. America is dead. Think about what is really happening.
Sen. Russ Feingold = truth-teller
Wish we had a senator like him in CA. Sen. Boxer has at times risen to the occasion but DiFi is a total lost cause.
I once wondered how it was that the German people could have allowed Hitler's power-grabs. Now I see how. It's a sad day for our nation. Our enemies must be laughing their asses off -- their sucker punch on 9/11 has turned our country into a caricature of its stated values.
We are no longer a nation of laws. 'Rule of law' has been quickly replaced with something one expects to find in a Kafka or Orwell novel. When a government can break the law, then retroactively make it legal, every person, of every political persuasion, should be quite worried.
"Wrong vote." 'nuff said, BHO, 'nuff said.
Neo-constitution.... I cant take credit for that word, i heard it on cspan and it fits. Most Democrats as just like republicans, corrupt. Just not as in your face corrupt. They all need to be replaced before the true patriots can try and clean up a mess that I am starting to think, cannot be cleaned up anymore. FISA is just the tip of the iceberg, perhaps a final handout to big telecom in hopes they will spend all the money saved on lawyer fees, and save the economy. Every citizen should follow the govt lead and borrow as much money as possible and spend it as fast as possible, that would be good for the economy, right? FISA is just another line crossed off the old constitution.
Conversation in 2009 :
Oh, did you hear ? The democrats decided to help McCain win the presidency so that they would not be perceived as weak on NATIONAL SECURITY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sadly, perhaps the best thing that could happen to the US is for the constitution to be burned once and for all. Perhaps only then could a fire big enough be lit to force our fat lazy reality show watching asses off the couch and have some real drive and reason to take back our government. Burn it and get it over with, as tearing a small piece off every now and then is NOT enough to get us into action. Before we know it, 5 years from now it will be gone, and we will have been bickering and nitpicking over little meaningless issues, missing the big picture, focusing instead about nudist hikers and the outrage at the sight of our own.
AHHHHHHH!!!!! Obama is going along with this FISA shit to? WTF???????
My "former Senator", feinstein, drove me out of the demoquack party about a year ago, by dint of her craven enabling of that war criminal we have in the WH. If she hadn't have done that, the demoquack's actions allowing this new FISA bill to further disembowel our Constitution surely would have.
I am truly ashamed of our country's leadership, save for those few patriots such as Feingold, Dodd, and the others who have put their necks on the line to save the Constitution.
Good bye America and good bye apple pie.
By the hand of our leaders you met your demise.
The constitution now a tattered mess,
because Bush used it to wipe his ass.
I rear-ended a car this morning. So there we are alongside the road and
slowly the driver gets out of the car . . .
Well, I could NOT believe it . . he was a DWARF! He storms over to my car,
looks up at me and says, "I AM NOT HAPPY!"
So, I look down at him and say, "Well, which one are you then?"... and
THAT'S when the fight started . .
Isawthelight @ 61:
He "thinks" that if I am a life-time Democrat that I will vote for him no matter what?
I DONT THINK SO!
My vote will note be taken for granted anymore
Obama: Strike One: Public financing of campaigns Strike two: NAFTA
Strike Three: Death Penalty Strike four: FISA
Looking like just another gray suit, dunnit?
Change!
General_Rennenkampf @ 53:
GeneralRenenenenen@53,
National Service for youth is what comes to mind. All teh dems & repukes are gung ho including the improbable Mr. Obama can't wait to get their hands on our kids. They're such a VAST cheap resource just waiting to be enslaved.
think about the children!!!
seriously,
think about the children.
another serious moment by,
lewis_stoole.com
how can you do this to me?
I would have loved to watch this but Cox Communications in the Phoenix, AZ market recently put C-SPAN2 on a premium tier, at least I still have C-SPAN.
marko @ 9:
The poster is obviously speaking Ebonics. In Ebonics, dog is a compliment. It means you da man, Russ!
Let me get this straight, the law they are about to pass is going to grant immunity to telecoms if they can go before a judge and present evidence showing they were instructed by the president to break the FISA law. Did I hear that right? Each and every breach of that carries a 10 year sentence. So every time they admit to breaking the law at the instruction of the president, they will be building the case to put that drug addled retard away for another 10 years. I think chimpy rotting in jail for life being some huge guys girlfriend is worth the swap for telecom money.
God, I love Russ Feingold!! Straightforward, honest, clear-eyed. He is great presidential material! If he would run, Id vote for him in a flash. But he probably doesnt want to subject himself and his family to the mudslinging that the rethugs use in every campaign; cant blame him for that.
I hope President Obama will find a way to use Mr. Feingold's unique talents for the good of our country.
theWalrus @ 10:
Its not only our elected officials; its every f**king MORON who voted for prez fucksupalot. Thanks a lot, fools.!
wheeee @ 79:
GOOD ONE! Some welcome levity for a change.
Bravo for Mr. Feingold . . . Somone who sees the truth and is not afraid to act upon it!
Feingold/Kucinich '08 or Kucinich/Feingold '08. Write in.
I know, we can't have that. So, Kucinich for Speaker of the House, Feingold for Supreme Court justice.
Feingold on FISA “Compromise”: “It’s not even a fig leaf; it’s a joke.”
"That's so funny I forgot to laugh."
Pee Wee Herman
I use a company that is not involved in this, but is probably going along with illegal stuff through the back door.
I have no problem closing my account, and unplugging from this ISP, if I have to. Would it be hard to unplug? YES! Would I do it to have my voice heard in the FISA bill? YES, in a heartbeat.
What would be the effect if millions closed their personal accounts, and just did without for as long as it takes???? Have you got the conviction of your own words as written here???
Anyone??? I would take a raft of grief from my family, but how long would it take to have our voices heard then?? GOT WALLETS? USE THEM!
Funny how the MSM isn't covering this FISA vote, or Obama's treasonous support of it. The only Obama story for the last week is withdrawing from the public financing of his campaign.
So much for obama being a constitutional expert
Like boosh being the MBA president.
ysbaddaden @ 97:
The scary part is the I believe he is an "expert" of sorts. He's clearly not stupid.
Much the worse. He's a triangulating opportunist. Sounds a lot like...like Hillary.
Duh.
Good-bye Obama,
I had a little hope for awhile
but you squashed that.
Thanks guy!
Thanks for pulling this shit right after you
became the presumptive nominee.
BTW, I'm not voting for you.
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