Bush Cites Enviro Concerns to Curb Solar Development...While Accelerating Oil Drilling
By Nicole Belle Friday Jun 27, 2008 1:30pm
A few weeks back, I wrote a New York Times magazine article about the populist uprising against unbridled oil and gas drilling in the Mountain West. The article highlighted a major theme in my new book, THE UPRISING. In the article, I discussed how the Bush Bureau of Land Management has thrown the principle of environmental caution overboard by opening up a huge amount of federal land to drilling. So it is with more than a little bit absurd to read this New York Times story today:
"Faced with a surge in the number of proposed solar power plants, the federal government has placed a moratorium on new solar projects on public land until it studies their environmental impact, which is expected to take about two years. The Bureau of Land Management says an extensive environmental study is needed to determine how large solar plants might affect millions of acres it oversees in six Western states."
Do you love it? We're facing gas prices that necessitate drilling in environmentally sensitive and heretofore protected land right now, despite absolutely no evidence that it would ease current prices. Yet the Bush administration sees no dichotomy in insisting that we need to take a slow, measured approach to building solar plants, lest we don't take into account the long term environmental impact.
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Are his lips moving? He's lying.
There's actually a presidential ventriloquist.
Zappa...@2
His name is Cheney.
Humans just need to stop reproducing. Period. Human over-population and human over-development are the causes of practically all of our environmental problems.
Lest anyone forget the oilman's answer a few months ago to the question about what he plans to do after leaving the White House, it was something about "replenishing the coffers." This decision is obviously the first installment.
He's got a set of brass balls, doesn't he.
I'm surprised his tongue doesn't jump out of his mouth and run screaming down the lawn.
wow..........you have to wear your contrarian hat at all times with bush.........he says right go left......says yes go with no
It'll be approved the day Big Oil figures out how to make a buck on it.
The following day, the US will declare war on Bourkina Fasso because they're "killing their own people." No wait, we used that one...
It would be absurd if the policy didn't come from oil men.
That it does makes it diabolical genius.
Sorta like the Prohibition on hemp.
The man always was, and always will be; a crook and an idiot.
I don't believe in Karma, but wouldn't it be nice if it came around and bit him on the ass for all his thieving and murdering?
If the BLM found oil shale on the same land, the landscape would look like this in 6 months.
Genius. Absolute freakin' genius...
Good thing we didn't impeach the chimp because he was almost out of office and what other harm could he do? BushCo is like the terminator, they will not stop until they are forcibly removed from office. Until then, us, the iraqistanis, the environment, the economy, the food, the etc., are all in grave danger from their greedy rampage.
See my blog post on alternative energy.
My catatonic wimp of a senator, Harry Reid, who was apparently too busy groveling before the Repu'ublicsts regarding FISA to notice, learned of the Bu'ush solar moratorium post hoc in the friggin' newspaper.
I hope that on January 20, 2009, we can rid ourselves of this turd with just one flush to save water.
How stupid would you have to be at this point not to recognize that everything is about raising profits for oil companies.
A message to all special education students everywhere: "Even YOU can become President."
why do these things always happen when Daily Show and Colbert are going on vacation?
Nancy Pelosi should be personally held accountable for not inpeaching this crooked idiot as well as the entire Bush crime family.
There is no inconsistency in his position. Until his big oil buddies control solar energy, it gets stifled. There will no emerging free market in energy, if bushco has there way. Either the Excelons or the Exxons must control the money.
it was oil all along no kidding............
http://bravenewfilms.org/
Bush has big plans for oil drilling in the U.S. and in Iran.
He is getting some help from the Democratic Congress- HR 362 and SR 580.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7354M1QmGYQ
When is Crooksandliars going to put up a video about how we are sleepwalking into a war with Iran?
YOU ARE DROPPING THE BALL!!! Does this sight want to stop a war with Iran is it just too controversial for you?
It's a good thing that Bush wasn't president when the telephone was invented because we'd still be communicating with telegrams.
I apologise for the following in advance:
Is their any videographical evidence of Dubya having sex with men?
That's about the only thing that could get him marched out of the White House at this point! Broken Laws mean nothing! Somebody please produce a fetish video of Dubya and Ted Haggard! Please! Please! Pretty Please!
I would like to follow up with an apology for the above. It's the only non-violent thing I could think of to remove Dubya from office.
I mean no disrespect to healthy consensual Homosexual Fetish Video participation or the participants therein whatsoever.
Make it stop.
Tangential, but interesting. One of the extremist "greenie" anti-everything arguments against wind farms I recently read was that (beyond the fact that hapless birds episodically get chopped up in them) they will affect weather on the lee side (i.e., mostly eastern) of the wind farms by drawing the energy out of the air and thus reducing the wind flow and changing the weather patterns.
#19 moondancer says: "There is no inconsistency in his position. Until his big oil buddies control solar energy, it gets stifled. There will no emerging free market in energy, if bushco has there way. Either the Excelons or the Exxons must control the money."
You're right and it's really old news. It's precisely for that same reason that the U.S. is decades behind most other developed countries in terms of mass-transit and related infrastructure.
Damn. Its as if buggy whip manufacturers got the automobile put on hiatus to determine its environmental impact. Please. This is so self interest. What a stooge. I hate him. Keep it the way it is so you can milk every last little penny out of it, right W? Just like calls for more drilling, it isnt about solving our problems, its about getting the last of the unclaimed black gold tied up by your cronies....I mean bosses.
I was thinking of re-reading 1984, since I read it in the 70's. But, why bother when they are doing an off broadway production in DC?
because it a con. How did canidate Bush deflect questions about global warming? "It needs to be studied more." How did he answer that same question six years later? "It needs to be studied more."
The daily show did a great bit on that, but the "It needs to be studied more" is his excuse to not have to do anything.
BREAKING NEWS!!! Bush is a shill for the oil companies!!! film at 11
two prominent ceo's shell oil and lloyd's of london.......
did interviews on charlie rose receently
shell ceo global warming is happening
lloyds of london largest ins. brokerage...we are very concerned about global warming
both interviews online charlierose.com
Charles @ 29:
I guess that would make his answer to the question What have you accomplished in 8 long, long years and he'll say: It needs to be studied more!
Hate to break up the Bush bashing-- I know how good it makes everyone feel. But effective it ain't. What is effective is putting pressure on our Democratic Congress members that are selling us out. This is the third story on HR 362 on Huffingtonpost.com
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sarah-van-gelder/are-congressional-democra...
Crooksandliars is a great sight but it needs to stop dawdling on this one. We have until about July 4th to put pressure on our Congress members. It ain't much time.
Since he has No bankable credibility -- what he says isn't a problem. HOWEVER - his ability to stop or slow the process IS a problem. The gains they've made in destroying America are great - and I don't think they're anywhere near done with us yet. He had a personal goal of destroying the middle class. He still has a way to go.
I don't know how they plan on staying in power - but I know I'm not going to like it.
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Well the chemicals that go into producing solar panels are really nasty sh*t. Battery disposal also isn't exactly clean either. That aside, what's the real environmental cost for drilling everywhere in the country? Wouldn't surprise me if the drilling had a higher cost than solar panels.
Someone upthread mentioned wind turbines, I remember reading a few years ago of some new turbines that won't affect bird migration patterns, why we are not using that I don't know.
And as always, chimpy is an treasonous sack of sh*t.
The only environmental impact Bush worries about is the one inside Big Oil's boardrooms.
Bush has got 205 days left. For most us, that would be a relief, but it's a problem for ol' George....he's only got 205 days left to give away everything to the corporate oil pricks who put him and Cheney in office.
Disgusting piece of sh*t.
This post raises a question for me... is it possible that Bush has been preparing for his payday via oil investments and payoffs since 2004? I'm no scientist, but I would think that collecting the sun's rays might be less dangerous than drilling for oil...
all hail the hypno toad @ 35:
it would be interesting to know where would we be as far as solar technology if reagan didn't remove those solar panels carter had installed.....i guess it was kind of pussy to use solar energy in those days...carter tried to warn us
Newsflash: President CheneyBush orders a moratorium on all chocolate sales while a study is conducted via the Office of Management of Ingestible Gourmet Offerrings & Delicacies (OMIGOD).
Toby @ 22:
I doubt that. He would be concerned about the impact of telegraph lines on the environment and encouraging the continued use of homing pigeons.
The mainstream press is rolling on this one too. Bush bashing ain't going to do anything about it. People on the internet need to understand about the coming war with Iran. We shouldn't just get pissed off after it is too late.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/24/eveningnews/main4206201.shtml
It's really very simple. The oil companies have powerful Washington lobbyists and the wind and solar power industries don't.
all hail the hypno toad @ 35:
Were the myriad externalities of fossil fuels (and nuke, btw) honestly accounted for, green alternatives would be much more market viable today.
What % of the DOD budget is really about defending oil? What % of environmental damage is attributable to fossil and nuke? What % of our human health care expenditure is attributable in large measure to fossil and nuke toxicity?
Maybe we cannot quantify those externalities with utter precision, but it's safe to say they are real and very large, and have to be paid for one way or another.
And, yeah, production of any technology is gonna have toxic downsides. But, let's not choke on "perfectionism fallacy" stuff. The environmental, health, and political toxicities of fossil and nuke are orders of magnitude greater, without much prospect of significant abatement.
I am so very surprised by this hypocrisy. /snark off
james k. sayre @ 4:
What will work to reverse the growing population?
Outlawing fucking?
Mandate abortions for pregnant women?
Increase birth control programs?
Kill off half the world's population with WMD's?
Create economic conditions that cause people to fight each other for basic necessities?
Only allow certain people to reproduce by requiring a license to have a child?
neoconned @ 42:
See also this:
neoconned @ 42:
The media squawks about war with Iran but never mentions that Congress must declare war. The media is complicit.
OILMAN!!!! Where's the big surprise here? Bush has already told people he has to "refill the old coffers"!!! Why in the world would Bush ever want to do anything that might replace OIL???? We're fighting a war for other peoples OIL right now. If we find ways to lessen our oil consumption by a large capacity, the OILMEN might just find themselves in the same damned economy that the rest of us are in.
My answer is to go to Washington;go to Lafayette Park;cross Pennsylvania Ave.;and spit on the White House fence.Then go to the Capital and spit on the steps.Then go dancing.You will feel much better.I promise.
Of course the Bushies aren't big on solar but....This is somewhat misleading as there are 130 applications that will go through. This just places "new" apps on hold for two years. Most are delayed because of EIRs not completed.
kablooie @ 48:
That's not how Bu'ush views it. He thinks he has continuing plenary infinite AUMF authority to strike anyone anywhere anytime. Would this Congress challenge that?
Asked and answered.
so what can we DO about this? Shaking our heads and making wisecracks on a liberal blog isn't exactly participatory democracy. When you live in a democracy you get the government you deserve.
Anyone know who this works? Can we petition our lawmakers to pass a bill which would fasttrack this process?
Two years for the environmental impact study. Well, I suppose so, what with thousands of mirrors, it would require some serious reflection.
Here is the third post on HR 362 by dailykos.com
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/27/8118/06776/731/542357
TIME FOR ONE THREAD ON THIS BILL! Preaching to the choir about Bush will do nothing.
We need to start calling our Congress people.
We must remember that if the Democrats did not roll on Iraq then it would not have happened.
Saint Augustine @ 46:
Basically improve women's rights. When women have more opportunities in life besides cooking and cleaning for a husband then choose to have fewer children. Read "The Future of Life" by E. O. Wilson if you want to know more.
Nikolai @ 53:
Find out who your rep and senators are. Turn on your fax machine. USE IT.
That's what I do, in addition to emails, phone calls, and snailmail. Repeatedly.
Headshaking and cracking is a small part of what I do ongoing. Don't assume stuff.
seevee @ 54:
haha, but please apply your daft literary skills to lobbying yoru congressmen and women to intervene. the time you spend making jokes here is pretty pointless compared to what you could be doing if you really think about it.
People , please ...ASK NOT WHAT THE CORPORATION CAN DO FOR YOU, BETTER TO ASK WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR THE CORPORATION!
a message from the good folks at EXONNMOBIL
sully18 @ 50:
spit and dance...what a solution. wouldn't you actually feel MUCH MUCH better if you volunteered some time to perhaps lobby your congressperson to intervene and try and fast track this process? Maybe get a petition going or something?
Comrade Centrist @ 59:
You should really reflect more on the original: Ask not what your country can do for you; ask what you can do for your country.
Are you active and engaged in helping to improve your country or pretty much just pissing way your spare time commenting on some blog post that no one is going to read a few new posts later?
Nikolai @ 61:
We see that you continue to piss away your time here.
We're living in a strange parallel universe; the one where Spock is evil and has a Goat-T. I can only assume that the universe the voted Gore in office is doing much better, despite having Lieber-douche as VP.
I'm sorry but that actually makes sense. As we have soooo many drilling rigs in this country, we already know the negative impact of them (destruction of water supplies, wildlife, habitable ecosystems). With hardly even one solar panel farm in the country, it is impossible to calculate the Armageddon like consequences we may face in the future. Thank the sweet baby Jeebus for George Bush for saving us from uncalculable devastation from the destructive forces of solar power.
You fucking douche. Go back to sucking on Cheney's hind tit you shit bag.
Nikolai @ 61:
Get a sense of humor. I don't think JFKs statement to be all that insightful given the current situation and yes I am active sometimes in a subversive manner.....oh my!
Nikolai @ 56:
More importantly improve the economic security of the poor so that they don't need a large family to provide for them in their old age. Birth rates always go down in advanced economies.
BobbyG @ 57:
Seems it's not as bad as it sounds. I think the potential land-mass which could be used for solar is probably much larger than that used by drilling. Solar is certianly cleaner, but there are impacts to the environment nonetheless.
As currently envisioned, the PEIS will evaluate direct, indirect, and cumulative impacts to:
Wildlife, wildlife habitat, threatened and endangered species, and vegetation;
Proximity to wilderness or other special management areas;
Cultural resources
Paleontological resources
Socioeconomic resources
Visual resources; and
Water resources.
sound very reasonable actually, but I guess John likes to makes things sound controverserial in order to attract attention--a la Bill O'Reilly's modus operandi...
How dare you impugn the motives of our President!
Maybe he just remembers the movie "Sahara" better than you do.
Impeach on the grounds of terminal stupidity.
BREAKING: The Bush administration has announced a sweeping overview of the extensive environmental damage that unbridled alternative energy schemes are creating. Including the probable loss of thousands of gas station and convenience store jobs.
Well, obviously the slow, measured approach is the correct approach to solar energy, as it is with any new and experimental energy source. It's the same with wind energy, for example.
What's that you say? NO environmental impact with wind energy?? Uh huh. And I SUPPOSE you've never heard of erosion either.
Yes, yes. Until the time such radical new energy measures are slowly, carefully, and painstakingly implemented one tiny, unsteady, midget-baby step at a time...we might as well keep drilling. I mean, we KNOW what THAT does to the environment. No surprises there. But solar? Wind? Hydro?? We could be opening a virtual Pandora's Box of environmental devastation.
Or worse: Pandora's BoxES. Yeah---plural. As in "more than one.
Thank God for the long-reaching wisdom of this administration.
Thank GOD.
the extremists(right wing) of israel are tickled pink about this anti-iranian bravado....why? israel's most formidable enemy is OPEC.......they would love to see the states flood the market with iraqi and maybe iranian oil.....the arabs are making a lot of money right now.this would bring the price down and affect their economy....there is a extreme group in israel that doesn't want peace with palestinians
Did anyone here actually read the article?
-There are 130 EIRs in the pipeline.
-They take two years cuz there are 130 of them to get to and the regs are very tough...As they should be.
-Most of the bitching on the moritorium is coming from hundreds of small start-ups that have to wait two years to get their submissions started.
-This is the "There Will Be Blood" of solar. The new Wild West.
"Green" is the next bubble. Most of the new start-ups (just like the dot coms) won't make it in the end.
In other words....Relax.
Peter G @ 66:
More importantly? Are you sure?
Fertility decline is a dynamic process involving multiple factors. The availability and awareness of contraception, improved literacy rates, reduced infant mortality, and better economic prospects all typically drive declines in fertility. The more these factors are present, the more likely the transition to lower fertility will be rapid, widespread, and sustained.
The transition to lower fertility rates is enhanced by affording women the same educational, political, and economic opportunities available to men. In every society for which data are available, the more education women have, the fewer children they have. In Egypt, for example, 56 percent of women with no schooling became mothers while still in their teens, compared with just 5 percent of women who remained in school past the primary level, according to a 1997 study.
This is true for several reasons, the study found. Women often delay marriage and childbirth because they wish to finish their formal education. This delay reduces the total number of children women ultimately bear. Education also gives women an opportunity to venture beyond their traditional roles, changing their aspirations and values and giving them the confidence to break from the norm.
Also important are increased economic and political opportunities for women, such as the right to vote, to own land and other property, and to hold a job. These opportunities broaden women’s lifestyle choices and often give them the independence needed to determine their own reproductive destiny.
think I nailed it. you can read more if you wanted to know more.
james k. sayre @ 4:
Tell that to the couple in Arkansas who are now having their 18th baby together.
P.K. McBurroughs @ 71:
Johnny2Bad @ 73:
they told people to relax about the EV electric car also
maybe your right
What a crook and a liar................hey!
Neo-classical secular humanist @ 76:
Neo-classical secular humanist @ 76:
Honestly? I'm having trouble believing that you took me seriously.
karl @ 77:
Yes they did....But there weren't 130 different models of EV. GM F-d us on that one by themselves
Genius? Hardly. This is epitomizes the utter cynicism of the BushCo crime syndicate. They bankrupted America by first sucking all the meaning out of the language we use, like "patriotism," "fiscal responsibility," and of course, "compassion." Once that was accomplished, it was just a matter of stuffing duffel bags full of Benjamins.
no wonder bush always has a stressed look
on his face.......too many hands up his stretched butt.
“There Will Be Blood".......this looks good..i'm a daniel day lewis fan......looks like liberals will get picked on about the depiction of this film. from what i can see on the trailer.......let's see deception,greed,guns,violence and i must not forget religous fervor....control the ignorant masses may be in there also.....nevertheless i'll go see it or rent the dvd. looks like deadwood on steroids
karl @ 83:
OT but its the best single acting performance I've seen in many years. Top ten all time.
I can not believe this outrage. We should be gearing up to fight our plight as a nation as we did when confronted with WW ll ! But we do not have people that care about our country, and I might go even further to say, they do not care about humanity in general. Older people on fixed incomes WILL be dividing this next winter to feed themselves or keep themselves warm. I feel like we will be looking at scenarios that will look like third world stories. All this in the richest nation on the planet. I see only devastation come December in the Northeast where I reside.
We could have solar and other forms of producing electricity up and going so very fast. Certainly a country that beat the Germans and the Japanese in the biggest war the world has seen could beat the energy problems that exist TODAY.
Yet another example of fundy christian morons hoping that destroying the Earth will "make jeebus hurry up about the second coming!"
On a one-to-one basis, self-defense is the use of force to prevent oneself from being killed by an unprovoked aggressor. At what point does self-defense of the human race become legal against those who want to cause "armageddon" to happen?
Johnny2Bad @ 84:
the movie spoke volumes about the ignorant, fearful, superstitious conservative masses and the religious charlatans that go head to head with the corporatists over who will manipulate them for their own personal financial gains.
Well,
at least one thing him and the iranians agree about.
Did you know that about 10 000 people die from respiratory diseases in Teheran yearly due to the massive pollution, and roughly 30 000 in traffic every year. The fact that most middle eastern/arabic countries, (counting Afghanistan and Iran as well here) consider traffic rules "guidelines" might have a thing to do about that.
Subsidies to keep gasoline at roughly 40 cents a gallon might do that to you, good thing Iran has high oil prices to profit from, using 40% of the state income to subsidize food and gasoline is expensive.
Ruthless People @ 87:
some things will never change
What a goddamned dick.
Bush is a crook, a liar, a coward, a criminal and a warmonger. The man has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.
Hey, you can't blame bush for not being on the solar energy bandwagon. The sun goes away every night, and he's not sure were it goes or if it will come back.
ot.......but this what we could be facing....mcCrash
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/money/main.jhtml?xml=/money/2008/06/18/cmstoc...
bush's position is beyond absurd. but it's totally consistent with his intentions all along: to continue his involvement in and support of the oil and gas industry, which is in desparate straights now. it's only a matter of time before all the logistics of an economy based on burning fossil fuels has run it's course. could that have already occurred? i hope so. i'm personally looking forward to an economy that is based on hydrogen, wind, solar, and, when not endangering fish populations, hydroelectric. but there are also many other potential technologies that haven't even been allowed to go into the initial stages of r&d because, politically, on the federal level, those interests have their nemesis in the bush administration. i am personally looking forward to the day, hopefully in the not-too-distant future when that entire group of selfish greedy and ruthlessly vicious business men are no longer the owners of power in this country and all their obsequious lackeys have had their asses kicked the fuck out of washington dc. those will be some good days to look forward to.
karl @ 93:
But it's all the Democratic congress that has been in power for just 2 years fault! That's the lasted reich wing spin for the looming disaster the GOP has spent a decade creating.
Ruthless People @ 95:
that's crap.....paper thin majority fighting off signing statements,veto,filibusters.........and more importantly
they were handed a lot of shit from the repub. majority congress 2000-2006.......this mess was in the works before this congress you and i both know that...thats propaganda for people who want to mcBlame others not themselves
Why does this inescapably spring to mind...
Saint Augustine @ 46:
Well, we could start by laying-off the discrimination against gays and lesbians. Some of us are raising families just like straights do, granted, but in most of those cases, we're adopting kids that nobody else wants. And the rest of us aren't having (or raising) kids at all.
Professor Hussein Falken @ 97:
the genius of those writers..........funny stuff...kind of
Christy Sunny Hannity @ 70:
They are the American version (in burbville) of the European corner store, so always will be there in one form or another.
Gas stations can easily sell swappable battery packs for EVs, quick charge compressed air vehicles, or hydrogen.
Those places wont vanish overnight or in the foreseeable future with multiple fuel sources for vehicles.
If some radical new cheapish energy source for vehicles was rolled out tomorrow,
it would still take 10 to 20 years for the petrol vehicles to vanish completely, not an over night thing
The Republican strategy is to screw up the country while they are in power and when the Democrats sweep them out of power, blame THEM for the country's ills...the cycle continues...
sully18 @ 50:
You'll probably be promptly arrested by SS (Secret Servic) or Homeland Insecurity thugs.
"After studying all the alternatives, we've concluded that solar energy represents an unfair competitor to oil production, so we've decided to blow up the Sun."
seevee @ 54:
LOL
numfar @ 6:
I love it! As far as brass balls, maybe not. He's just stupid.
John F A @ 104:
Why blow up the sun when you can block it out with sooty residue from fossil fuels.
John F A you beat me to it, so here is my alternative:
"But what if the sun explodes?? Where is your solar energy then?"
And this is whom we made the leader of the free world? Someone should remind him that his lame duck status means he has to refrain from stupid statements until he is gitmo'd to The Hauge.
this guys IQ has to be in the single digits...I wouldn'e trust him to use a knife and fork properly..
prin @ 11:
Looks like we'll have no more shortages of landfill locations...
sah @ 108:
Yeah, he chops the coke OK with the knife, but he has difficulty snorting it (or eating it, for that matter) with the fork.
Well, we all know "the Sun is an unreliable source of energy"
Nikolai @ 58:
Daft?
Oh please, I love it when people tell me what I should be thinking and doing.
Oh, I need to lose weight also.
Thanks for the help!
Nikolai @ 56:
If every couple had just one child, then it would cut the population in half. Theoretically.
Never mind the fact that it's a FREE and CLEAN source of energy. My God, you would think that Monkey-Boy would have learned to just keep his shit-eating mouth shut by now.
Either Bush and Co. really hate John McCain, or they really hate Americans, I can't decide which ... but its probably both.
Christy @ 113:
Bring on the ARM
...they could lower the time needed for the e-review if they'd hire more people to do the job. But that would make sense...
kablooie @ 40:
Update.....President Bush has demanded that each American must buy a barrel of oil and shower in it to stave off the effects of not having chocolate.....Now back to the same idiots promoting war with Iran. But first a word from our sponsor Exxon.
environmental impact study? it's the middle of the desert. is there a specific concern all of a sudden?
This decision reminds about the demise of the GM electric car in the 90s and the birth of the "Hummer project" which was supposedly “the car that America wanted.” Of course Toyota made sure that it had a fleet of million hybrid Priuses and became the "green leader" before it launched their own Hummer, namely, FJ Cruises because... it now can. In other words, Americans do things backwards. Let's take Chevy Volt for example, a car "for the masses" due in 2010 yet priced as f******g 3-Series BMW!! You know what, because of the sheer stupidity in this case, the exploitation of the business enterprise called America is about to end veeeery soon, and this simple-minded decision, brings us only closer to it. People have had it. Volt for people who can afford gas anyway is a self-defeating idea!! Or is it supposed to be? Looking for environment-conscious consumer among the 5% of high-income American households simply proves that the Bush administration philosophy "F*ck the 95% as long as the 5% does fine" has been apparently contagious. As I said it, people have had it so better don’t block the solar projects because of “undetermined danger to fr***g desert squirrels.” Wow, this is the Bush administration argument of the year hands down. What a bunch of f**ks!!
bushit is an evil, psycho bastard. Any surprise over his decision on this issue are... well... a surprise.
Geo W Bush is widely recognized as the worst president in US history.
Worst in 2020 years.
Think he gives a damn? He dosn't. That's how stupid he is.
Stupid Americans like John McCain put that asshole into office and ruined this country.
Republicans like John McCain and Geo W Bush only do harm to our country, imo.
Only Democrats can return this country to a safe place.
Now the left hand now knows what the right hand is doing. Just in reverse for Bush.
I think it's pretty clear now what Cheney discussed with the oil execs in that secret closed door task force meeting.
How Fucking Stupid does this ASSHOLE think we really are?
i swear they are alien lizard people, bent on heating up the planet so they can come and populate it and use us for food..
This is why Obama sez he's a CHANGE candidate...
and the Democratic Party is forcasting a CHANGE election:
This moratorium will have to be CHANGED as soon as the new president sets up house keepin'
Only seven more months till the bush-wackin' of the country comes to an end.
Well, I understand that Bush is probably not the most popular president right now. However, to blame him entirely for rising oil prices would be giving him too much credit. It is the same type of argument as saying that the current president, whoever they may be, is responsible entirely for the economy, whether the economy is in good or poor shape. There are many variables to be considered in these situations.
Let's not forget that it was the Democrats that are blocking oil drilling in Federal lang
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200512/s1536696.htm
though I agree it would probably not make a big price difference, but more importantly it would be oil that would not have to come from enemy countries like Iran and other hostile nations of the US. I personally think that, in the end, it is so much a political issue as it may just be a 'oil bubble' like the housing bubble we had not long ago and possible speculators artifically raising the price...though I could be wrong.
Matt @ 126:
It would not make any difference in the price of gas. I am not buying your line. So forget it.
Matt @ 126:
The amount of oil there will last us six months at current usage. It'll takes us 10 years to start tapping it if we started today. If, however, we devoted a space-race like intensity towards developing alternative energies, we might truly break the hold that Iran and other hostile nations have over us.
Oil is finite. We will run out, maybe not in our lifetimes, but not that far in the future. If the world is largely out of oil in fifty years, the oil in the ground in ANWR will be more valuable, then it will help us by knocking 75 cents off the price of unleaded in 2026.
There are renewable energies that we haven't pursued developing. Drilling for our oil is giving the guy a fish. Developing renewables is teaching the guy to fish.
Only completely closing the so-called "Enron loophole" right now might have a downward effect on gasoline prices in the short term, like within thirty days, as some expert economists testifying before Congress last week predicted.
All other "solutions" will take years before any possible energy benefits may be realized.
And until we get someone sane in the White House, someone with common sense who represents the common people instead of the uncommonly greedy in the oil industry, then nothing will be done to address our nation's energy crisis.
Personally, regarding longer term "solutions," I'm for seeding our desert-like public lands (primarily along the West Coast) with solar energy farms and cyano-bacteria fields.
These cyano-bacteria fields, irrigated by salt water (freshwater not required), produce sugar as a byproduct, sugar that can be distilled into fuel, with the distillation process being fueled by energy produced by solar panels.
Thus, we can kill two birds with one stone.
Any excess energy produced by the solar energy farms, beyond what would be necessary for distillation of the cyano-bacteria sugars and pumping salt water to these dry public lands, can be channeled into our nation's electricity grid, relieving the need for additional power plants.
The fuel generated from distilling the sugars from the cyano-bacteria (versus corn) can help alleviate our nation's dependence on foreign oil.
A win-win for all American citizens, except of course the oil companies who will no doubt attempt to block anything that might get in the way of their making a huge profit, no matter how disastrous it may be for all other U.S. citizens.
In the meantime, completely close the "Enron loophole" so we can see what happens...completely re-regulating that which was de-regulated in 2000, which directly led to Enron being able to game on-line energy trading in 2001, causing rolling blackouts in California and doubled/tripled monthly utility bills out west.
We are all California utility ratepayers now, with vastly inflated, "Enron loophole"-generated high gasoline prices being the latest scam being played on U.S. citizens. Just wait for monthly utility bills to go through the roof this summer, when we will all get to experience what California utility ratepayers endured during the summer of 2001.
Nikolai @ 58:
Are you aware that with the time, energy, and money you spent judging and making that comment, a small schoolhouse could have been built in Zimbabwe?
xoites defends Constitution @ 123:
Pretty effin' stupid.
Was this announcement really made in person? Why was this announcement not greeted with hearty laughter?
neoconned @ 21:
I agree, too many of these sites are sticking with the "lets try not to offend too many people so we can install a democrat in the white house" position. Democrats are not interested in changing the status quo in this country, they just want their own breed of crooks and liars to be in charge. If you're totally committed to change, vote for a constitutionalist candidate like Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, or Robert Wexler. Let's stop playing these electoral games every four years by going with the lesser of two evils.
LibertyLover @ 131:
These fascists believe that we are a bunch of fuckin morons. And so far, not many have proven them wrong.
If we don't take our damn nation back, then we are not only stupid, but weak and complicit.
This will offers a reason for the seemingly conflicting actions!
A must watch!
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=+the+energy+non+crisis+Lindsay+Wil...
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