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By Nicole Belle Thursday Jul 03, 2008 11:30pm
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Woo Hoo. Go Obama. November 4th.
I hate Elmo. I don't trust him. I just don't!
Who Says FOX News Does Only ‘Negative’ Mock-Ups of Reporters?
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=1975
Please cover the Obama abortion comments! It's a big deal.
Jan Crawford Greenburg says it well:
In a recent interview, Obama appears to back away from his long-stated positions on abortion (and a proposed federal abortion rights law he had co-sponsored), repudiate 35 years of accepted Supreme Court rulings on the issue and embrace a view on abortion restrictions that has been expressed on the Court only by Justices Thomas and Scalia.
[...]
'I have repeatedly said that I think it's entirely appropriate for states to restrict or even prohibit late-term abortions as long as there is a strict, well-defined exception for the health of the mother. Now, I don't think that 'mental distress' qualifies as the health of the mother," Obama said. "I think it has to be a serious physical issue that arises in pregnancy, where there are real, significant problems to the mother carrying that child to term. Otherwise, as long as there is such a medical exception in place, I think we can prohibit late-term abortions."
Wow.
This has been a central battleground issue in the Supreme Court going back 35 years, to Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton, when the Court ruled a woman had a constitutional right to abortion. The decisions said state's can ban all abortions after the fetus is viable -- but that any restrictions must include exceptions to protect a woman's physical and emotional health.
[...]
In 1973, when the Court issued Roe and Doe — on the same day — it sided with the abortion rights groups and said states could not interfere with a doctor's medical judgment on whether an abortion was necessary.
"[M]edical judgment may be exercised in the light of all factors--physical, emotional , psychological, familial, and the woman's age--relevant to the well- being of the patient," said the Supreme Court in Doe, which was a companion case to Roe. "All these factors may relate to health . This allows the attending physician the room he needs to make his best medical judgment."
Obama's comments that he does not support mental health exceptions in so-called post-viability abortions (after 22 weeks) is squarely at odds with that holding, which remains the law of the land today.
Condoleezza Rice Says She's `Proud' of Decision to Invade Iraq
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aIefxPxr_Gw8&refer=home
In a recent interview, Obama appears to back away from his long-stated positions on abortion
The list is longer than my arm now and half way down my leg.
Here we are! MSM is doing what it always does! Talk about bull-shit ,when Americans are in need! What about the floods? Or Health-care? The wars? It seems nobody gives a shit! I'm as patriotic as the next man(woman)! I want to talk to talk about things I CARE ABOUT! This is crap!
I don't know if it's been posted here but it seems Jesse Helms has passed away. I assume that the usual restraint will be shown. I may have some choice comments to make at a later date.
This is the problem. Democrats believe in womens rights. But to the religoius right that means no rights! Repugs do not see gray, they see black and white. You could be a young runaway who was raped, and yet they will blame the girl! If you are white, produce children! Like the right, we must provide white kids! That way we can stop imagration! We'll just have our kids working the fields! No insurance? No problem! You can die, and nobody will care! Welcome to Conservatism!
Question about Obama's policies. Where are the stories coming from? Have you checked out his policies before and now?
It seems that there is a lot of misinformation being thrown about. Just sayin'.
http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3484
harley @ 6:
I'm not one to decide what a woman should do with her body but, where did he say that he would. I'm against abortion but it's not my decision to make. I'm not against contraception or any type of birth control in the early stages.
I'm just saying, does he have to flip flop on every issue?
Obama softens on Iraq troop exit
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2008/07/03/6058656-ap.html
He is on the road from snatching defeat from victory.
harley @ 12:
Wher did this crap on abortion come from Harley? There is going to be a lot of shit from the MSM on any rumor they can create.
harley @ 12:
Again, consider that you are dealing with "news" here. Did you see what Obama said about troop withdrawal a long time ago?
Again, I post this link: http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3484
And this: http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16092.html#more-16092
And we are going to get more and more of this.
harley @ 12:
I've seen this argued by Rachel Maddow that his position is the same. She is a lot smarter than the rest of the pundits.
harley@12
Are you buying into the bullshit from the McCain camp, or are you part of that camp?
Not only has this site posted a thread about this (today's Scarborough/Maddow thread), but 10 minutes previous to this comment of yours, Ms Joanne posted a link that blasts that whole argument apart. Here's that link again:
http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=3484
As No 44. They are the OP of that material.
Obama is not moving to the center, he is running to the right.
The pandering to elegiacals for votes in exchange for federal funds is about the last straw for me.
harley @ 17:
It appears to me that reading is not your strong suit.
Continue to spread the smears. Heckovajob, dude. Heckovajob.
harley @ 17:
What you need to do is quit believing in the MSM. There is no left wing media and they all report the same lies.
Democrat Barack Obama opened the door Thursday to refining his plan to bring U.S. troops home from Iraq in 16 months based on what he hears from military commanders during his upcoming trip there.
"I am going to do a thorough assessment when I'm there," he told reporters on the airport tarmac here. "I'm sure I'll have more information and continue to refine my policy."
http://www.cfrb.com/news/56/748365
"Refine my policy?" Huh? WTF?
harley @ 20:
WTF, if you were president, would you deal with what facts are at the time or would you be a good repugnant and stay the coarse?
harley @ 20:
Would that story be from this Associated Press? http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16081.html
Yeah, thought so.
Stop believing (and spreading) the bullshit!
Obama would expand on Bush faith-based plan
Sen. Barack Obama said Tuesday that if he were elected president he would have his own version of President Bush's office of faith-based initiatives that would "help set our national agenda" and inject morality into policy debates about everything from AIDS to genocide.
http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/president/22796744.html?loc...
Going to have to send those Pilgrams back to where they came from because this does not sound like freedom of religion to me.
MsJoanne @ 22:
Welcome back MsJoanne.
Thanks hon. How are you?
I’ve seen this argued by Rachel Maddow that his position is the same.
Maddow got her butt kicked. Her cute little laugh trick only works so many times. After seeing it for the 20th time to avoid answering a direct question gets old.
harley @ 23:
So, how would this interfere with freedom of religion?
Site Monitor: Please limit your comments to topics and not other posters.
harley @ 26:
There were four conservatives against Rachel, fair and balanced?
Ron Says: harley @ 23:
Obama would expand on Bush faith-based plan
Sen. Barack Obama said Tuesday that if he were elected president he would have his own version of President Bush’s office of faith-based initiatives that would “help set our national agenda” and inject morality into policy debates about everything from AIDS to genocide.
http://www.startribune.com/pol.....Commentary
Going to have to send those Pilgrams back to where they came from because this does not sound like freedom of religion to me.
So, how would this interfere with freedom of religion?
When you see "own version of faith based initiatives", "help set the agenda" and "inject" in the same sentence. You may want to slow down on the kool aid sipping.
Ron Says: harley @ 26:
I’ve seen this argued by Rachel Maddow that his position is the same.
Maddow got her butt kicked. Her cute little laugh trick only works so many times. After seeing it for the 20th time to avoid answering a direct question gets old.
There were four conservatives against Rachel, fair and balanced?
Ha ha ha ha is my answer to that.
harley @ 31:
Then vote for McCain. If you think McCain would be better than Obama, vote for him.
Me? Obama could fuck a goat live on the 10:00 news and I would vote before him before I would ever cast a vote for McCain. Am I happy with some of what he has said or done? No. But it's him or McCain and NO MCCAIN NO MATTER WHAT!
Go on, Obama...fuck that goat. You still have my vote.
Twenty-two Afghan civilians were killed by us.
Harley; Obama can hop, skip and jump to the right of center and still be a hundred times better than that smarmy McBush asswipe you are working for.
harley @ 30:
I only drink coffee or alcohol.
California gets more wildfires.
lafin gas Says: Harley; Obama can hop, skip and jump to the right of center and still be a hundred times better than that smarmy McBush asswipe you are working for.
Cute - you are so brainwashed you do not even debate an issue you just have childish name calling attacks - groovy.
From public financial reform (first Obama pledge) to faith based initiatives who has flipped flop their positions?
harley @ 37:
It seems like you do not want to bring up McCains flip flopping on almost everything. What is the problem there Harley, too many to talk about?
Ron Says: harley @ 30:
Ron Says: harley @ 23:
Obama would expand on Bush faith-based plan
Sen. Barack Obama said Tuesday that if he were elected president he would have his own version of President Bush’s office of faith-based initiatives that would “help set our national agenda” and inject morality into policy debates about everything from AIDS to genocide.
http://www.startribune.com/pol…..Commentary
Going to have to send those Pilgrams back to where they came from because this does not sound like freedom of religion to me.
So, how would this interfere with freedom of religion?
When you see “own version of faith based initiatives”, “help set the agenda” and “inject” in the same sentence. You may want to slow down on the kool aid sipping.
I only drink coffee or alcohol.
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A twist to the Maddow - ha ha ha ha - diversion. Clever.
37 harley ; McCain has flip-floped on so many thing you would think he was a fish out of water, he thinks that Putin in the president of Germany for gawd sakes, and you aint worth my time!
UPDATE: Viacom v Google/YouTube - 'Anonymize the logs'
Recall:
U.S. District Judge Louis Stanton ordered Google to provide Viacom with their:
The reason given was:
From:
Mercury News (McClatchy) - YouTube order: Does it threaten your privacy?
http://www.mercurynews.com/peninsula/ci_9785519
Maddow was right, Obama has hardly changed his positions as much as everyone in the media reports. Everyone forgets that when Obama ran his campaign on his issues, everyone was still obsessed with Hillary and claimed that he wasn't strong enough to win the Presidential election. He actually did switch at that time and started trying to match her on the far left. Now that she's out of the way, he's just returning to his original positions. During the primary, no one wanted to report his standing on each position trying to compare him to Hillary and gave her the benefit of the doubt. Now that he's running on his own platform, now they're comparing him to himself and is giving McCain the benefit of the doubt no matter what.
If I was President of the United States, I'd make all news outlets have a caption at the bottom of every story to report the facts. On TV, they should have bubbles pop up next to the heads of people who say anything other than the facts and the bubble should state the facts. They've distorted Obama since day one so now the far left and the far right take issue with him. Then if he wins the election, the MSM will be pissed off that he doesn't allow them close enough to further distort his positions.
This is all a game......one sad game where the American people lose.
MsJoanne @ 32:
Now if Obama fucked a goat, that would really be acting republican. If McCain fucked a goat, there would be no story, just donuts and barbecue for everyone!! yay!
Ron Says: harley @ 37:
lafin gas Says: Harley; Obama can hop, skip and jump to the right of center and still be a hundred times better than that smarmy McBush asswipe you are working for.
Cute - you are so brainwashed you do not even debate an issue you just have childish name calling attacks - groovy.
From public financial reform (first Obama pledge) to faith based initiatives who has flipped flop their positions?
It seems like you do not want to bring up McCains flip flopping on almost everything. What is the problem there Harley, too many to talk about?
More diversion and blind hero worship.
lafin gas Says: 37 harley ; McCain has flip-floped on so many thing you would think he was a fish out of water, he thinks that Putin in the president of Germany for gawd sakes, and you aint worth my time!
Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
More blind hero worship.
(snark)
Anybody want to give an opinion on who The Media Industrial Complex wants us to vote for in November? I mean, i am not really sure. They seem so impartial.
(/snark)
MsJoanne @ 32:
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Go on, Obama…fuck that goat. You still have my vote.
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Logic like this is why we find ourselves where we are.
Kool aid IVs all around.
Didja hear? Karl Rove celebrated the 4th by telling John Conyers that he refuses to acknowledge the House Judiciary Subpoena to appear on July 10th.
harley @ 44:
Answer the question.
Harley, i hear you criticizing Obama. My question to you is:
Where do YOU stand on the issues?
harley @ 47:
[Deleted. Abusive Site Monitor]
Keep drinkin' that McCain kool aid. Oh, I forgot, it's sprinkled donuts and coffee with two sugars...provided by the uber friendly stenographers we call press.
[Deleted. Abusive Site Monitor]
.. amazing how much trouble one self-intoxicated troll can make ..
Jimminy
(Crickett)
Mountain Man, all you have to do is ask a direct question. If the person changes the subject, refuses to answer or otherwise deflects the question it is time to ignore the person.
MsJoanne @ 51:
I think I'm in love. It's great how you take it to him.
CR has a list of almost 50 McFlipFlops. And that, my friends, was updated on June 19.
Ron Says: harley @ 44:
Ron Says: harley @ 37:
lafin gas Says: Harley; Obama can hop, skip and jump to the right of center and still be a hundred times better than that smarmy McBush asswipe you are working for.
Cute - you are so brainwashed you do not even debate an issue you just have childish name calling attacks - groovy.
From public financial reform (first Obama pledge) to faith based initiatives who has flipped flop their positions?
It seems like you do not want to bring up McCains flip flopping on almost everything. What is the problem there Harley, too many to talk about?
More diversion and blind hero worship.
Answer the question.
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You first. That would only be fair because you have a knack for avoiding answering mine so well.
xoites defends Constitution Says: Harley, i hear you criticizing Obama. My question to you is:
Where do YOU stand on the issues?
Tell me where Obama does would be a good start.
"You first..."
See?
Deflect and avoid. Troll tactics 101. You rate a "C."
harley @ 56:
What is your question, dumb ass?
I am not Obama. I can not speak for Obama. I can speak for myself. Has the McCain Campaign given you permision to speak for yourself, Harley?
I'm was a Kucinich supporter, primarily on the issues of free trade and health care. Kucinich, in my opinion is correct in advocating the impeachment of Bush, Cheney and associates, as well as being correct on a bunch of other issues, especially free trade, and health care.
Hillary Clinton, back when the primaries began, being the presumptive nominee, (along with Giuliani), was arrogant enough to say that voting for the Iraq war was not a mistake, although she wished she knew then, what she knew now. This malarkey, along with "lobbyists are people too" was enough to have people scrambling for option "B", which was Obama.
So, now, we have Obama, but what do we really have? We have "Yes, we can", - provide the telecoms with immunity, as Bush requests, "Yes, we can", stay in Iraq until 2013 and so forth. So, in other words, we have "Yes, we can", but nobody ever asked "Where's the beef?". Obama knows now, that the primaries are over, that he can be arrogant with us like Hillary was.
Seems to me, we have nominated the fall guy, like Carter, who is going to take the heat for 'borrow and spend' economics that has led to the inflation and devaluation of the dollar, but who, with his "centrist" position, isn't going to enact any substantial change.
Noticed that no significant issue is out there to be debated by the candidates? Take gun violence. The gun violence is being exacerbated by drug addicts resorting to robbery to support their habits as well as black market operators running their operations, like what happened during prohibition. I don't think we need to go completely Libertarian on this issue, but I do think that once the user is physically dependent on heroin or crack cocaine, that it becomes a medical issue. Absent an effective cure, put the addict on a maintenance regime from their physician like England does. This destroys the motivation of the pusher to addict new users, because once the user becomes addicted, go see your doctor. The current policy is that we need to drum up new prisoners for America's privatized prison system with new addicts, which had the Reverend Wright condemning America.
OK, you don't care about addicts. How about people dying of cancer? We're being told that the private sector can resolve that issue. But, what we see, whether it's irritable bowel syndrome, or restless leg syndrome, is that the private sector is only capable of producing regimes that result in recurring revenue flows that enhance shareholder results. Curing anything is not part of a private sector solution because of no recurring revenue flows. We hear the Republicans talk a lot about losing an American city to terrorism. We spend about 50% of the worlds expenditures on defense, before a tank rolls out of the garage. The Iraq war is above and beyond these defense expenditures. We're talking about $600B for defense and maybe $100B for Iraq? Meanwhile, Bush has been reducing spending on cancer research, even though we lose more than an American city, year in and year out, in terms of population, to this disease. And, we're talking about a paltry sum, compared to the amounts pissed away in Iraq. We need a full declaration of war against cancer. Maybe these people aren't dying as sensational a death as the World Trade victims, but in the end, they are just as dead. What's cancer research, under $5B? Somebody has their heads up their butts - looks to me like it's the typical American voter.
This time around, there is a big difference between the lesser of two evils, and the greator of those evils. To recap, McCain has pledge to continue "borrow and spend", which has led to the inflation tax, he has pledged more nation building wars with his "rouge state rollback" program, and has advocated treating employer paid health care insurance as taxable imputed income (his sole contribution to the health care issue). So, I'm forced to hold my nose and vote for Barrack.
But hey, the American people let the corporate media box the public into a choice between bad and worse. So, I guess, lets get in there and vote for bad as opposed to worse. Supreme court nominees alone is enough to decide it. But I think all we'll get out of Obama is Republican lite. Hope as hell that I'm wrong.
(He must be checking now.)
I sure did enjoy that Muppets video ..
"One nation, conceived in chaos .."
.. not much has changed since ..
Hail Eris !!
Eris Discordia !!
xoites defends Constitution @ 63:
Now that there's funny, and I don't care who you are. :D
Bush Heckled During 4th Of July Speech At Monticello (VIDEO)
| July 4, 2008 at 01:36 PM
:)
xoites defends Constitution @ 60:
because he's so obvious and obtuse, I'd have to disagree.
D to D- at best.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 68:
That's their GPA.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 66:
I'm wondering what happened to that bubble? Looks to have burst some finally.
Not that it matters to the Sociopath in Chief.
This is Bush. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mgKpld58rE
It is the Fourth of July. Its a holiday. He probably didn't study up. I was willing to go easy on him, but i defer to your grade out of respect for your knowledge and experience. :)
xoites defends Constitution @ 67:
I see you working the minimalist technique on the troll.
simplicity is always best. they fall into it face first.
xoites defends Constitution Says: “You first…”
See?
Reading comprehension is not your thing? Ron never answered my question he tried to change it. I was waiting for his response then he comes back with "answer the question" . Good luck with that stale GOP trick.
Oh, no, harley, we want to know where you stand. Just used a friendly little algorithim supplied by Google to do some checkin' up, and you are quite the enigma. You don't seem to have a good thing to say about anyone- Bush, McCain, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton...I was halfway expecting you to be a Paulist, but he seems to have lost your vote by skipping a vote on illegal wiretaps...So are you an anarchist, or do you go for an Athenian-styled democracy?
BTW, could you tell me how someone who's hurtin' when the property tax comes due- because, ya know, there are still a lot of student loans to pay off- can afford some property down in Panama?
MsJoanne @ 70:
I'm wondering what happened to that bubble? Looks to have burst some finally.
Not that it matters to the Sociopath in Chief.
This is Bush. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mgKpld58rE
they must have forgotten the repug loyalty oaths and sign-in sheets.
harley @ 73:
Apparently, stealing what someone else said previously about you and spewing it onto others is YOUR thing.
MsJoanne @ 18:
Reading compre- what the hell is that? Are you saying i need to read this entire thread on a holiday before you will answer a simple question?
harley @ 73:
I ask again, what is your question? I'm not going to review every stupid comment you've made.
Cute - you are so brainwashed you do not even debate an issue you just have childish name calling attacks - groovy.
************From public financial reform (first Obama pledge) to faith based initiatives who has flipped flop their positions?***** My question.
+++++++It seems like you do not want to bring up McCains flip flopping on almost everything. What is the problem there Harley, too many to talk about?+++++ You don't answer my question - you switch and bait+
More diversion and blind hero worship.
Answer the question.
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You first. That would only be fair because you have a knack for avoiding answering mine so well.
[Deleted. Abusive. Site Monitor]
I do have a strong suit, by the way. It can stand up in the closet all by itself.
http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080703_snapshots_of_life_and_death...
Life and Death in Baghdad
GOP Rep: Bush "Should Stay Home" During Republican Convention
Huffington Post | July 4, 2008 11:29 PM
harley @ 80:
Are you looking into a mirror?
harley has worked the thread, huh?
Like a cheap hooker.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 85:
Every blog has its trolls. I honestly don't get it. Voting against themselves. Voting against what this country is supposed to be about.
It's disgusting. And to spew this shit on what is supposed to be the day of celebrating our independence, yet we're doing nothing but reversing history.
xoites defends Constitution @ 86:
Heh! You're killing me tonight!
CoIntelPro@85
He laid some lines out, and now he's reelin' 'em in like so many carp.
MsJoanne @ 87:
I can't waste the energy or the keystrokes tonight. have at him! ;<[)
Andy K Jong Il @ 89:
he sure has cast a wide net....
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 90:
Nah, I've had enough of dealing with tools tonight. He got smacked down and called out. Good enough for me.
MsJoanne @ 87:
What a true patriot should be thinking.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
Condoleezza Rice Says She's `Proud' of Decision to Invade Iraq
By Janine Zacharia
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July 3 (Bloomberg) -- Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she's ``proud'' of the U.S. decision to wage the Iraq war and insisted that the world is not more dangerous than it was when George W. Bush took office.
``We're now beginning to see that perhaps it's not so popular to be a suicide bomber. We're beginning to see that perhaps people are questioning whether Osama Bin Laden ought to really be the face of Islam,'' Rice, 53, said in an interview to be broadcast this weekend on Bloomberg Television's ``Conversations with Judy Woodruff.''
``And I am proud of the decision of this administration to overthrow Saddam Hussein,'' said Rice, who was Bush's national security adviser at the time of the March 2003 invasion. As of yesterday, 4,107 U.S. soldiers died in Iraq and more than 30,000 were wounded. She said the Iraq war has been ``tougher than any of us really dreamed.''
xoites@81
So ya bought ysbaddaden's old joke book, huh?
MsJoanne@87 Says:
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 85:
harley has worked the thread, huh?
Every blog has its trolls. I honestly don’t get it. Voting against themselves. Voting against what this country is supposed to be about.
It’s disgusting. And to spew this shit on what is supposed to be the day of celebrating our independence, yet we’re doing nothing but reversing history.
Well, i get it. They are terrified. That is why they try to use fear to manipulate.
They are afraid of non white people. Afraid of women and women's rights. Afraid if someone else gets ahead they will be less "superior."
Scared little children with money and/or power scared they will lose it if we figure out what they are up to and fight thier bullshit.
I only wish we would get on with that part of the program. We seem to be endlessly stuck in the complaining stage.
A Chinese 'Well-Armed Robo-militia' parade celebrates America's Fourth of July...
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Most-Emailed-Phot...
OH yes, another election comes down to the lesser of two evils. So when someone comes here and starts to put down one, I must believe that he supports the other. McCain is anything but the brightest star in the sky and if you think he would make a better POTUSA than Obama then you are dumber than a box of rocks.
MsJoanne @ 92:
you did an awesome job. I was taking notes for wit and content and you were stylish without being flashy.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 94:
From ThinkProgress:
Rice tends to forget what she thought of Iraq prior to 9/11. In July 2001, Rice said on CNN: “In terms of Saddam Hussein being there, let’s remember that his country is divided, in effect. He does not control the northern part of his country. We are able to keep arms from him. His military forces have not been rebuilt.”
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 94:
It's not a dream, it's a nightmare. WTF Condi?
xoites defends Constitution @ 96:
This was a comment from Ron Chusid's blog:
I thought that pretty well summed it up. They know they have nothing to run on so they pull this crap.
And America loses.
Ron @ 100:
Condi Rice is the nightmare. From day 1 she sucked. Talk about no detante skills whatsoever. Total nightmare. OUR nightmare.
CoIntelPro@91
Yeah, well, when s/he first started spoutin' the MSM smears I kinda thought he just wasn't up on what's goin' on, but the more I read, the more deliberate it seemed. That's when I got off of that line.
I'm gettin' pretty sick of all of the negative shit lately. I can stand it if someone presents alternate solutions to what they're gripin' about, and I'm not sayin' that harley doesn't have some alternate solutions, but harley isn't exactly doing her/his best to enlighten us with those solutions.
Not to mention lazy and complicit reporters working for the the BIG M who wants no part of a black President, or a "Liberal" President or anybody who wants something to change AT ALL!
xoites defends Constitution @ 96:
but this is not terror. If it were, I'd have some sympathy. Who has not known fear.
that is unadulterated psychotic hatred of self and self-in-denial. to lash out chaotically at every statement and every person means no solution was part of the objective. it was not even venting because venting has some therapeutic value.
that mentality is a prime example of the post-emancipation proclamation south or post-noxinian middle america, where hatred of the other supercedes any reasoning capability.
sad, really.
Sad and deadly.
all the bitch had to do was read and act on the Presi-dunce-ial Daily Brief.
I say that with great respect for canine females.
I think she knew exactly what she WASN'T doing.
xoites defends Constitution @ 104:
why would they tolerate someone who could limit or end their ridiculous access to the corridors and incomes of power? It's easy to see how they got so corrupted. It's hard to find one of their ilk who actually knows a 'common citizen'.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 107:
Read? Unless it's My Pet Goat, it's way beyond Chimpy McFlightsuit.
He needed a reason to use that codpiece.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 107:
The real bitch is, harley believes all of the negative shit out there and doesn't know that he/she is a tool for the neocon, fascist and criminal leadership in charge.
Bush barely got in and he was not elected. They wanted and needed an attack. They needed SOMETHING to change his poll numbers. I bet they have been wishing for another attack for at least the last two years.
Funny, i wonder if Al Qieda even had the ability they held off just to mess with Bush.
Peter G @ 8:
so?
xoites defends Constitution @ 113:
http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=7980
I must admit I've been watching all of this. I was going to comment earlier but it seemed that you guys had matters well under control. Ms Joanne, you do have a great way with words. Well done.
Great to see that video of the protesters at the Bush speech. I didn't realize that there were so many of them. Bush gets harder to watch each time I see him, what with the smirking, smiling, laughing and winking. The idiot even mentioned his upcoming birthday in his little speech. Clueless, classless imbecile.
Bush at Monticello - did you hear what someone in the crowd yelled during the Bush protests?
I believe this is the sad reality of the majority of the American population. Rather than accept and fix the problems with our government and the crimes of those elected to run our nation and enforce its laws, the vast majority of Americans ignore them.
Americans are a violent, agressive people, but they will say they love freedom.
Americans are selfish and ignorant, but they will say they are pursuing the American dream.
Americans are liars, torturers, and untrustable, but they will say they are dealing with a "new" enemy.
Americans attack those that bring truth, but say they are being patriotic.
And when you speak up and say, "look in the mirror America," Americans will say, "sit down and shut up."
MsJoanne @ 115:
I think that twice on repug watch should not be viewed as a success, but they do have the media on their side.
calgarylady @ 116:
AMEN!
calgarylady, i have not been able to watch or listen to Bush since October, 2001.
calgarylady @ 116:
That's so kind. Thank you so much.
Thomas Stone @ 117:
Please, don't lump us all into the same group.
"More American servicewomen have been killed serving in Iraq than were killed serving in either Operation Desert Storm or in the Vietnam War....So far, 97 American women, including seven single mothers, have died in Operation Iraqi Freedom. The average age of these female casualties is 27." 7/5
Thomas Stone, you smear all Americans with a broad brush. If you don't live here i forgive you. If you do then you should get out more (i forgive you anyway.)
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 123:
That doesn't include those maimed, raped or otherwise seriously fucked up.
xoites defends Constitution @ 124:
Geeze, we think alike.
Yes Ron, but i have a bigger mouth. :D
xoites defends Constitution @ 127:
Not. Gonna. Comment! :D
American women in uniform have the highest incidence of rape (by men in uniform) than any other demographic in the nation.
MsJoanne @ 128:
Any mouth will do. Just kidding.
Breaking: Reports are Emerging that Bush White House Broke With Pledge Not to Deal With Terrorists and Paid $20 Million Ransom for U.S. Hostages in Colombia. "Neither the US nor Colombia immediately responded to the suggestions that they had paid to secure the hostages’ release." Developing...
xoites defends Constitution @ 129:
and the highest rate of cover-up.
Ron @ 130:
Amen, bruddah! ;-)
$20 million dollar ransom paid. McCain gets credit due to budget doubling as campaign contribution.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 131:
I'm up too late.
WALL - E is good, with a message.
thanks for being you, people ans hosers and posers.
g'night.
Good Night, Cointelpro. Be well. :)
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 136:
Good night my friend.
Night night. I wanna see Wall-E!
Anyone want to take bets on the Corporate Media's next big push for McCain? Will it be that he supervised the hostage "rescue?" Or will it be that he has come up with a cure for cancer?
MsJoanne @ 139:
Good Night.
How many women were raped by KBR and Blackwater employees? I wonder how all of those rape lawsuits are going. Haven't heard too much news about that lately. Who knows, maybe all of the cases have been thrown out of court.
Of course, it's always difficult to get real news when the rightwing nutjobs control every aspect of it.
Why do we say "Night Night," but never "Day Day?"
xoites defends Constitution @ 140:
It will have to be the cure for cancer. They have run out of other BS.
Ron @ 141:
Oh, not me...I was sayin' night to CP.
Good night, CIP, and Ms Joanne. Sleep well :-)
Ron, that is where you are wrong. They have bullshit they have not even dreamed up yet. In fact they have a warehouse full of it they are keeping for later.
MsJoanne @ 145:
Oh, I'm sorry, but I have to admit, I may have to say good night fairly soon myself.
I have to be at work in 16 hours!
Run out of other BS? Balderdash!
Prester John
The Fountain of Youth
The Seven Cities of Gold
The Ark of the Covenant
Blackbeard's Treasure
Need I go on, Ron?
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