Confirmed: Obama to give acceptance speech before crowd of 75,000
Rumors started circulating last week, and now it's official. Instead of accepting the Democratic Party's nomination for President at the Pepsi Center, where the rest of the Convention will take place, Barack Obama has decided to move the main event down the street to Invesco Field at Mile High
"The Democratic Party is nominating a true change candidate this August, and it is only fitting that we make some big changes in how we put on the Convention," DNC Chairman Howard Dean says. "By bringing the last night of the Convention out to the people, we will be able to showcase Barack Obama's positive, people-centered vision for our country in a big way."
As predicted, the mainstream media is already starting to jump on Obama for this. Always looking for a way to frame the issues in McCain's favor, even the usually superb Chuck Todd cautioned this morning that Obama may cede the "seriousness ground" by treating the event as a rock concert instead of a traditional convention, arguing that it may end up helping McCain. After all, the obvious enthusiasm gap between the two candidates this year puts McCain at an immediate disadvantage, and his "base" needs to help him neutralize that at every turn.
Realizing that they simply can't compete with Obama's historic speech the week before the Republican Convention, the GOP is having a hissy fit and complaining that Obama is more concerned with stagecraft than providing real solutions to real problems. Nevermind the fact that George Bush considered giving his 2004 acceptance at Yankee Stadium. Oh, the hypocrisy.
(h/t Logan)
Appears to be more concerned about the showmanship than the substance.
awesome. cant wait to go. gObama.
What bands are playing? Rage Against the Machine got back together for Coachella and Rock the Bells concert tour last year. I would go in a minute, but the views will be better from the old teevee at home.
The Repugs have no reason to be jealous, after all they'll have Joe "Zed" LIEberman and his star quality packin' them in at Minnesota.
So the election now boils down to the old-school Coca-Cola Democrats
vs the Pepsi Next Generation?
Someone call me a Doctor
Preferably Pepper.
Sooooo, they are angry b/c Obama wont do the stuffy, way that it has always been, convention?
Invesco field??
Corporate sponsorship??
Will there be a Pepsi sticker on his podium?
abarts @ 1:
And YOU sound like a FUX News sycophant.
will mcsane be more serious by starting to tell the truth? and will the truth stop changing hourly?
wah wah, how can he follow this? he can't, he's toast. even with the press not reporting his lies (like what he called his wife in front of reporters...starts with a c and ends with a t. can you imagine any dem getting a pass on that one?) and the war, he can't keep it together.
OMG cancel immediately! Thank the Goddess that our CONservative brethren are looking out for us. Guess there's nothing interesting on their side for them to pay attention to.
goat hussein sage @ 8:
could be the sweetes night of our lives
I think that it might be called "driving home a point" and is probably a good move. Of course the military/corporate-media will shriek "foul". That may have something to do with the fact that McSame drew a HUGE crowd of almost 400 people when he announced his candidacy here in PHX AZ. Because, you know, it's just not fair that the Republicans are about as popular as genital herpes at this point...
Man, some folks sure get their knickers in a twist over the silliest fucking things.
The trashing of the constitution, not so much.
I've given up all hope for this country.
Good on Obama!
Perhaps Backtrack Obama will announce the inevitable; that he is switching his affiliation to the Republican party and selecting Libermann as his veep. (The next day, he will "clarify" the switch by calling it an attempt to "unify America" under one party.)
The media is just pissed because they won't be able to have the same easy walk to the same building for the entire week of the convention. Heaven forbid they have to walk or take a cab.
If the Republicans thought they could fill a stadium with 75,000 McCain supporters, they would.
abarts @ 1:
just rubbing 76,000 butthairs under your nose.
ROTFLMBBAO
;<[)
Stagecraft, eh?
Woulda been a whole lot easier to mount that "Mission Accomplished" banner in the White House Press Room.
Andrew @ 17:
ED ZACHARY!
Andrew @ 17:
Maybe if they promise them some free WWF tickets and cases of Coors Light...
I have a better idea:
With 2 million adoring supporters watching him enter the city, Obama could give his acceptance speech as he marches up Constitution Avenue on a chariot pulled by three white horses.
marko @ 7:
Oh, stop it. Thou doth protest too much, methinks.
One night at Invesco Field at Mile High Stadium. The rest of the convention will be held at the Pepsi Center. That's what they're called, like it or not, and it's got nothing to do with Obama and/or the Democratic Party. Naming rights defray the costs of tickets and the burden on taxpayers.
Hell, even my beloved Lambeau Field has all of the gates named for sponsors....
As my 10 year old says "Awesome idea!". Look on the bright side, McCain just selected his political director! Real winner too!
republicanSScareme @ 22:
Change my ass. One word: FISA.
pissed off patricia @ 11:
POP, you don't suppose abarts was spoonfed THIS quote, do you?-
A statement from Matt Burns, director of communications for the 2008 Republican National Convention, said:
"Not surprisingly, Senator Obama and his fellow Democrats are more focused on stagecraft and theatrics than providing real solutions to the challenges facing our nation."
If Obama keeps moving to the center, he may not have enough enthusiastic supporters to fill the stadium. But I think McCain is going to get nominated at an Elks Lodge near Minneapolis.
goat hussein sage @ 26:
spoonfed? It's in the last paragraph of the article above. So much for reading comprehension.
goat hussein sage @ 26:
The sniveling, runny nose repugnants really are scared, aren't they.
Andy K Jong Il @ 23:
Look this is bullshit anyway, the FISA vote is tomorrow!!!
i can hear the "rock star" analogy already........
to me that is a clever put down...meaning he's
a fade,an act...gives good speeches...can we just say
obama is by far a better communicator than bush or mccain......everyday the glass is half full with the media
anon @ 16:
Good point. Let the media have to do more work. After all, most of the media is focused on finding fault with Obama. Maybe only a few selected media should be allowed to attend.
abarts @ 28:
If it walks like a duck...
MarcyJ @ 25:
thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!
going to an obama meet up tonight, full of glassy eyed cheerleaders with no fucking idea the trouble we are in.
"oh, but he's so cute" and "but he will lead us with hope and vision"?
HAHAHA!!
Andrew @ 17:
The Republicans will be lucky if they get all of the Republic delegates to show up for the convention. I haven't heard Ron Paul endorse McCain yet.
Biggus Diggus @ 27:
I have been a consistent Obama donor and received an e-mail from the campaign saying that for $5 I would receive tickets for myself and one guest. Unfortunately I can't go, but I think this is not going to be a "the first 75,000 who line up" event. The stadium will be filled, and it will be filled by Obama supporters from all over the country with pre-arranged tickets.
well, the gop should have put their money on a good horse
and not a glue-factory-reject.
this is a bunch of hypocrite, pedophile, bigot and racist
reichwingneocon losers. they only thing they have is
LIES LIES AND LIARS...........and did i mention criminals
just waiting for rendition to germany in january.
Chuckburger is a dweeb. He was more at home on c-cpan quoting the Wasington Times.
naschkatze Hussein @ 36:
I got the same letter. Some how I think this is just a scam to get people into the stadium.
i have to add
would it not be ironic
that bush declares a national emergency
and have everyone at OBAMA'S acceptance
speech arrested as enemy combatants.
you just can't put anything past the bastard bush.
goat hussein sage @ 4:
isn't it going to be a little crowded in
that men's restroom in minn. airport
waiting for mcfuckhead's arrival to
give his speech?
dadams @ 40:
[Jo, please don't go there. You don't have to clean up after the flamewars start. Thanks. Site Monitor]
marko @ 30:
And no matter what Obama does, you'll piss and moan about it.
Okay, I'm going to keep this on topic by going this way with it:
In front of 75,000 people, Obama addresses FISA reform. He promises to use his authority as POTUS to use the FISA laws to listen in on every overseas call from the Carlyle Group, between Pat Robertson and his diamond and gold mines in West Africa, on every overseas call made by anyone whose last name is Rockefeller...
Have you thought about how quickly, at that point, we'd get 100% airtight reform on eavesdropping? I doubt you have, because you've been too busy taking potshots at Obama to consider the different ways to work this out, marko.
It's amazing how EVERYTHING a Dem does plays right into the GOP's master plan. If Obama stays at the Pepsi Center...that proves his popularity is shrinking. If he moves to Invesco Field....he's trying to be a rock star.
It's unreal.
Here's an idea. Fuck what the GOP may think about something....AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE DEMS.
This is a joke. Old Man McC*nt wishes he could draw more than 50 people to hear him speak. While Obama is dazzling 75,000, McC*unt can give his acceptance speech in someone's basement...that's where he always seems to be. Poor lighting. Low ceiling. And a dozen geriatrics sound asleep.
marko @ 34:
If you dislike Obama so much, why are you even bothering going to a meet up? What are you, a Republic spy?
Someone needs to tell Chuck that McCain's supporters are too damn old to walk anywhere, much less across a parking lot. And Obama has generated such enthusiasm, this is absolutely perfect.
Now if he does the right thing on FISA I may yet tune in.
marko @ 34:
HAHAHA!!
[FIFY. Site Monitor]
dadams @ 40:
Hey. It could happen and very well might before the general election.
Cede the “seriousness ground” do they mean like the way the Pope or Billy Graham cede the seriousness ground when they fill stadia?
Place he was going to hold it: 19k. New place holds 75k. If only 50k people show up the right-wing will call it a failure.
Oh Hell, why not? Our entire primary season was theatre. The script was written by the media, the players were picked by the media and now we have our star and co-star and the media along with the voting machines will decide which is which. I wish that I could be as excited about this election as I have been every election for the past 40 years but I'm not. Maybe Obama's VP pick will change that, maybe not. The past 7+ years under Bush/Cheney rule have been horrific for this country and I'm not feeling very hopeful and don't feel like we will see much change. The only hope left is to hope I'm wrong.
mudshark @ 39:
If you got the same letter I got you should read it. It says you could be one of 10 people selected not all 75,000 people.
"...the usually superb Chuck Todd..."
You really think so? He strikes me as no less a lightweight than most of the other gasbags on MSNBC. Olbermann, Schuster , Maddow, and now, possibly Dan Abrams, are heads and shoulders above the other MSNBC talking heads, including their resident "political expert," Chuck Todd. Expert on what? I've never heard him utter one memorable comment.
Besides, he always looks like he's bored. Who needs it? Even Keith Olbermann does card tricks ever now and then.
Ron @ 53:
I understand that Ron. I gave money to Edwards and my wife gave money to Clinton. I plan on giving some to Obama, just not yet. see my point now.
mudshark @ 55:
And that would make 3 of us already. here. nope I ain't buyin it. just more bs.
We all remember how the grand old perverts held their convention really close to 9/11 to milk that date for all it was worth. STICK IT TO THEM!
Great idea. The Republicans are jealous. And with good reason. Their man is a loser. Big time. Just wait until the debates! Obama's gonna whoop him upside the head.
marko @ 7:
No.
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i guess i got it wrong i thought the change was less division, empower the people.......not obama walking
on water being perfect. from my understanding perfection is not going to happen......for me i would like to see checks and balances....executive branch fully communicating with the legislative branch. i believe obama is going to strengthen the rule of the law/constitution when he is in a position to make the changes. i believe some of us are becoming/are vulnerable to the anti obama propaganda. the (R) is working very hard to put obama in the uncompromising
positions "boxed in".....for me the spin on his withdrawl for iraq is nonsense.......we must keep our eyes on the prize...obama i believe is going to remember who got him there. i see the division.....mccain is a weak candidate and some of us are giving him strength indirectly
mudshark @ 56:
What is it that 1 of 10 don't you understand?
goat hussein sage @ 4:
I'll bet Ron Paul and his convention in Minneapolis a few days prior upstages the Republican's big bash. At least I'm hoping it will.
constituent @ 60:
You are right. Keep our eyes on the prize. Possibly 4 Supreme Court justices will be nominated by the next president. Never forget that.
All I know is that the '65 Beatles concert at Shea Stadium drew a crowd of 55 thousand and that remains a legendary event... I'm having a hard time thinking of anything the R's could do to top this, and maybe that's the real problem.
Anything the D's can do to make the R convention look like a pale imitation of what the right idea at the right time looks like gets my support. ;)
Ron @ 61:
nevermind Ron. I'm not going to argue with you. You do what you want. Me, I'll wait. probably till Oct.when he really needs it the most.
On McCains best day he could not pull crowds the size of Obama. And unless some idiot is completely ignorant they will admit this fact. McCain is boring. He is an inept speaker. And he cannot remember facts.
Expect to see rumors of a pending terrorist attack to scare people away from attending an event of this magnitude.
"The Democratic Party is nominating a true change candidate this August."
lol. This schoolboy howler is worth a deep belly laugh.
It's obvious by now that the only "change" we are going to see from the "change candidate" is the changing of his mind... on Iraq for example.
Witness Obama's Iraq policy morph into a mirror of McCain's Iraq policy before our very eyes, complete with open-ended wishy-washy timeframes based on "benchmarks" from the Iraqi government, "strategic pauses", advice from commanders on the ground, blah, blah, blah. Basically more of the same run-around via loopholes and doubletalk that we've been getting for years now from congress, without the slightest consideration ever given to what the Iraqi people think about being under endless military occupation (hardly a mystery).
Obama and the leadership of the Democratic Party must think their supporters are a bunch of retards.
Ron @ 53:
Pure jealous McSame-ism.
The Republicans will be lucky if they get 75,000 TV VIEWERS nation-wide to watch McSame make his speech in St Paul. For the Dems to put 75,000 warm bodied (adoring) voters into a stadium to witness "history in the making..." well, wouldn't YOU be jealous too?
GO-bama... KICK ASS in Denver!
I got the e-mail also. But I cannot afford the trip. They want donations, donations, and more donations. Hopefully, they will drown the GOP in money.
marko @ 34:
I'm voting for Obama. I'm the ugliest glassy-eyed cheerleader that you've ever seen. Look, I'm a geezer whose pension got torpedoed thanks to Repugnican policies. Obama is undoubtedly not *GASP* perfect. What or who is the reasonable alternative? Ron (neo confederate) Paul? I'd like to keep what I have left, and maybe see the USA get back on some kinda right track.
Impeach cheney and bush @ 68:
OK, once more.(last time though) Yes I got the same letter thanking me for all the support I've given. The thing is, I haven't given yet. "Could" be. I'm not big on lottery's. But hey by all means, somebody has to win. Go for it. ok I'm done see ya'll later.
ysbaddaden @ 5:
your a doctor!
mudshark @ 73:
Do ya think they'll be selling Braut's
pissed off patricia @ 11:
yes thier will be drugs avalible!
Fabulous.
McSame is worried cuz he knows the only people at his speech will be a handful of cleaning staff, signalling him to speed it up, as they want to get home to see Desperate Housewives.
Rather than complain about what Obama is doing in a football stadium... WHY DOESN'T THE GOP PLAN THEIR OWN STADIUM RALLY?! I mean, there IS a halfway decent football stadium somewhere in that state of Minnesota, yes? Or are they worried they can't fill all the seats the way Obama's acceptance speech is bound to have?
I heard it's standing room only in an airport bathroom stall...the natural venue for anything McCain's delivering.
jax @ 68:
save you breat son thiers people here who still believe in the wizzard of oz!!!!1
all I know is they better fill the damn thing or else - one section empty will be what the Tee Vee people will show the whole time.....
mudshark @ 65:
I read somewhere they are having trouble raising money for the convention.
That email was an attempt to bring in some money.
crazylikeafox @ 82:
They would have had alot more success by being honest(with me). I don't like it when anyone try's to bs me. definitely the wrong way to go about this. ok I'm REALLY gone. adios.
Impeach cheney and bush @ 71:
There is a loophole that McCain has found to get around big donations being illegal.
(Can anyone say more, I'm fuzzy on the specifics.)
The big money is going to pour in GOP direction.
jax @ 68:
you left out the 16 month time frame and consulting with field commanders to tactically adjust in real time vs. several months ahead of being in office......this is a ridiculous argument......mccain wants to be in for up 100 yrs. as long as there are no causualties and OBAMA wants out....well iraq wants a timeframe for us to get out. the situation is fluid and ever changing trying to "box" obama is not smart.....his is an intellect....unlike his opposition.
mudshark @ 83:
I don't know. Worked for me.
Alice X (Chomsky Nader) @ 47:
Absolutely, not a dime until that bullshit is struck down.
http://tools.advomatic.com/7/fisa
Mc Cain doesn't need to invoke "charisma", he simply has none.
You need charisma to fill a football stadium for a speech. I am offering my two car garage for Mc Cain's "charisma speech." I'll even move the cars out!
mudshark @ 83:
A copy of the letter. I think they explained it quite well.
Friend --
I wanted you to be the first to hear the news.
At the Democratic National Convention next month, we're going to kick off the general election with an event that opens up the political process the same way we've opened it up throughout this campaign.
Barack has made it clear that this is your convention, not his.
On Thursday, August 28th, he's scheduled to formally accept the Democratic nomination in a speech at the convention hall in front of the assembled delegates.
Instead, Barack will leave the convention hall and join more than 75,000 people for a huge, free, open-air event where he will deliver his acceptance speech to the American people.
It's going to be an amazing event, and Barack would like you to join him. Free tickets will become available as the date approaches, but we've reserved a special place for a few of the people who brought us this far and who continue to drive this campaign.
If you make a donation of $5 or more between now and midnight on July 31st, you could be one of 10 supporters chosen to fly to Denver and spend two days and nights at the convention, meet Barack backstage, and watch his acceptance speech in person. Each of the ten supporters who are selected will be able to bring one guest to join them.
Make a donation now and you could have a front row seat to history:
https://donate.barackobama.com/openconvention
We'll follow up with more details on this and other convention activities as we get closer, but please take a moment and pass this note to someone you know who might like to be there.
It will be an event you'll never forget.
Thank you,
David
David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America
That's it. I just saw a photo of Obama wearing a Ross plaid tie w/ ARGYLE bleeding socks. I'm writing in Paul Reubens. Bye!
Jeebus. That many people? Is this a convention, or a final episode of American Idol? What's next, an actor running for Prez? Oh wait.........
Now is especially not the time to get complacent.
A lot of GOP voters aren't the type to go out to rallies or even watch them on television. However, history has shown that they do get themselves out to vote and they have found all sorts of reasons (including numerous irrational ones) to vote against the Democratic candidate.
Now is the time to be more vigilant than ever. To make sure we work harder than ever before to get a Democratic candidate elected as President.
And of course, assume nothing.
Ron@89
So it's a lottery to be flown out to Denver for two days, with guaranteed seats for the acceptance speech and a backstage handshake. Sure, it's a gamble, but if you win it's a little vacation where you get to meet Obama, and if you lose, it's $5 to either the campaign or the Democratic Party. If I could afford $5 and the PTO that I'd have to use, I'd be all over it.
It doesn't mean that you have to pay $5 for a free seat, though.
too hilarious -- mccain is going to "almost start the general election campaign" the week of the republican convention?
didn't i hear previously that mccain began his general election campaign before the democratic primaries ended?
i think eighth grade (sorry eighth-graders) describes the worldview and maturity level of these people.
popular = not serious?
doesn't that mean the next president should be the loser of the election?
wait a minute ... they really ARE turning upside down!
their theory is that voters should support mccain because hope of a different world is not just unnecessary but a sign of an immature and deranged mentality.
they should look at the numbers behind "older voters" in those polls -- yeah, obama's got the "younger voters" but it's not until you get into the age 60 group that mccain starts to get ahead at all and his support doesn't become significant until the age 70 group, under 40 it's obama by a wide margin. amusingly, the age 80 group seems to have regained their senses and swing back to obama. surprisingly the age 50 group is just about evenly split between obama and mccain. i would think that people like me, who are theoretically 10 to 17 years away from "retirement," would be a little more concerned about social security issues. i certainly am. it's going to be all i have.
Andy K Jong Il @ 93:
That's what I was trying to explain to mudshark.
ConcernedCanuck @ 91:
Didn't the GOP hold an entire convention at Jack Murphy Stadium in San Diego? 2000, maybe? IIRC, the Padres went on one of the longest- if not the longest- road trip in MLB history.
Ron @ 95:
Yeah, youse twos was losin' me there. Thanks for the letter! :D
Not to be a wet blanket, but after the plane "malfunction" today, I don't like the idea of him being out in the open in a large stadium of that size. Damn that makes me nervous as hell.
RickMack @ 98:
Why? He wouldn't be the nominee if Big Business didn't want him. No matter how much everyone wishes it, he is not a grassroots Liberal candidate. He is the Dem Candidate, and not really a whole helluva lot different than the McKnightInShiningArmour really. Too many people seem to be putting alot of false hope in this guy. There is no way he will ever live up to it.
This guy's ego is amazing! The Denver convention not big enough to hold is swollen head? I suppose if you have nothing but words to offer, pageantry will do. This year we have a choice of which is the lesser of two losers as president. First a seal, now a stadium. What next, the coronation?
Maybe they could have a special out-of-season football game to warm the crowd up. Go Broncos!
I guess he can get his 'faith based' evangelicals to fill seats if all else fails with his seat lottery. Then again, he still has time to change his mind on the venue.
No beach balls allowed.
Don't be surprised to hear comparisons to the 1935 Nuremberg Rally.
Dream On @ 103:
no one with balls will be there!
trevor-es @ 104:
I think C&L has a story about that from earlier this year. It was one of those Right-Wing Radio nuts that no one really listens to.
At any rate, I doubt the RNC convention will be as smoothly run as Todd thinks it will. Don't be surprised if party activists stage a mutiny in the convention hall and try to get McCrane replaced.
why do i never, ever care what Andrea Mitchell might be saying?
eh, it's not really personal. i really don't care what any of them are saying. i hope we go back to keeping the blowhards out of the picture.
i forcefully reject the idea that anything they say matters.
"Oh, the hypocrisy."
It's what they do best. (Along with lying, propaganda, distortion, etc.)
Boy am I getting tired of all the pissimists that have been crying about how Obama has slithered to the right. You don’t know what you are taking about! Don’t piss on me and tell me it’s raining!
Go Broncos Bama!
lafin gas @ 109:
cant get nothing past you can they ?
jax @ 68:
Are you going to argue differently?
swampfox @ 111:
Better get yer umbrella out cuz HillaBama is takin a leak on you and the constitution tomorrow.
Johnny2Bad @ 113:
oh you mean when obama votes for fisa?
Chuck Todd and the MSM toadies desperately need their Blue State-Red State maps and other old ways of doing business in order to appear relevant. The Obama tide is turning in waves too big to stand in front of and guys like Todd and Matthews are children being left behind by the millions of Obama people who neither know or care what they think or what their Blue State-Red State maps say.
I don't know. Starting to get turned off by the discrepancy between the spectacle of the PR compared to the disinterest in hanging around Washington to defend us from FISA and the like.
The positive thing I can think to say is along the lines of Thom Hartmann. If we build up Obama to be the second coming of friggin' Jesus, when he turns out to be a 2004 Democrat this county may actually finally swarm out into the streets and demand change that is more than a PR campaign -- or else.
Chuck Todd has never been superb. Lets not forget that this is the guy who said McCain has wealth of credibility in the bank and can basically do no wrong. Is that what they teach you in journalism school? Todd is like a giant sponge soaking up every McCain talking point and myth and spitting it back out as if it has anything relationship with reality
Oh Good Lord.
What's the difference in "seriousness" between a stadium and an arena?
I mean WTF?
They play basketball and hockey in one, so it's inherently more "serious" than one they play football in?
JFK "Man on the Moon" speech.
At Rice STADIUM:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTyYM-dUgCI
Chuck Todd should stick to counting delegates and electoral votes, that's all he's good at.
I suppose it's "Damned if you do, and Damned if you don't"
it dosen't matter what Senator Obama does. The MSM will always take the contrarian view.
angryspittle @ 13:
Oh, I feel you 100%.
I think we are toast!
Andrew @ 17:
Exactly!
constituent @ 31:
You said it! Witness as the media in cahoots with the republican crime syndicate work together to destory ANOTHER Democratic nominee.
McCain is such a doddering old fool, nothing Barack does has the slightest chance of helping a guy who knows the world as "my friend."
Moral Compass @ 115:
Wow, its all clear now. Us poor idiots out here just don't understand the "Obama Tide"....The message too evolved for us "children". We're being left behind by the force of the "wave" wiping out the "old ways of doing business."
OMG. Can the Obama Nation be that naive?
Its not a movement, Biff.
Its a marketing scheme for the election of one guy based on, ...on...well, not a f*cking thing...in a word: Hope.
swampfox @ 114:
If you clowns would bother reading the FISA bill you would know that it makes it mandatory that any spying be approved by the FISA court and the immunity clause only applies to civil law suits and not criminal ones. Grow up children!
2bad Johnny can't read!
"the GOP is having a hissy fit and complaining that Obama is more concerned with stagecraft than providing real solutions to real problems"
Ya, well its true. What's more, we would have said the exact same thing about Bush, and woulda been right then, too. Hypocrisy. Indeed.
John F. Kennedy accepted the Democratic nomination at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum.
Chuck Todd should learn a little history before he starts spouting off.
That other guy who based his campaign on "Hope" did not sink our economy nor invent pre-emptive war as foreign policy.
Not saying I love Bill Clinton but hey, our only chance of getting this country out of the mire of torture and war is to return a Democrat to the White House.
Whether the nominee announces at a stadium or in my backyard is not the issue as it is HIS CHOICE. Or so I thought!
lafin gas @ 128:
oh your right , whats one more sellout by obama more or less, after voteing for the patriot act , saying hes not going to be held to his vow to get out of iraq in sixteen months er excuse me i forgot hes going to leave a hundread thousand troops in iraq to protect out treachery there and god bless him the oil fields too, lets not forget hes said most of any troops taken from iraq ,if any will be sent to afganistan to further our agression there, god love it were going to keep the corporations happy,many finally see the dream of change dissapearing and got thierselves painted into a corner with obama , now thier going to vote for him but thier going to do it while holding thier nose , man if you got to hold your nose voteing for anyone youve allready lost!
Van @ 122:
You could use that argument for many of Obama's "supporters".
swampfox @ 133:
Wow, that's quite a run-on sentence!
swampfox @ 133:
Yeah, he should never change his mind. No matter what. Like George Bush.
Why bother with the convention at all -- votes don't matter anyway, just what it looks like. Welcome to the unity church of obama --- all hail. don't worry -- be happy
republicanSScareme @ 54:
I bet KO can't do this trick with playing cards.
Jesus Cuts Fruit With Cards.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MMoc7tHMQOg
133 swampfox
oh your right , whats one more sellout by obama more or less, after voteing for the patriot act , saying hes not going to be held to his vow to get out of iraq in sixteen months er excuse me i forgot hes going to leave a hundread thousand troops in iraq to protect out treachery there and god bless him the oil fields too, lets not forget hes said most of any troops taken from iraq ,if any will be sent to afganistan to further our agression there, god love it were going to keep the corporations happy,many finally see the dream of change dissapearing and got thierselves painted into a corner with obama , now thier going to vote for him but thier going to do it while holding thier nose , man if you got to hold your nose voteing for anyone youve allready lost!
I pretty much agree with your sentiment with one caveat.
You're blaming some generic Svengali like Corporation.
Granted corporations have tried to pull fast ones like they planned in 1933.
You could almost slip in the expressions The Man or The Establishment in it's place without changing it one iota.
wheeee @ 138:
Wheeee, thank you for refering me to this fascinating display of "Card Trick with Banana." As you know, this trick was first performed by Oddjob in Goldfinger using a steel hat and Greek statue, instead of a card and banana. The card and banana version is much more difficult to master, IMO. I was amazed at the "Card Trick with Watermelon." This skill can definitely get Jesus a job as a Mafia hit man.
This would be an interesting way to assassinate someone, James Bond-nemesis style. Who, I can't image.
BA_BureauChief @ 64:
BHO should get a band and play "Ich bein ein Berliner" - he'd double the attendance. If Hasslehorf (sp?) played bass, the audience would triple.
Calm down. We should all be praying to whomever or whatever we pray to that we aren't forced to endure more years of complete corporate governance. If as you posit, Obama is comfortably in the lead then his focus should be on form - the form that put him in this assumed position. If that means an acceptance speech to 75,000 then so be it. Leave the opponents to decide upon their form.
In this modern world, why even have a nominating convention? If convention there be, why not create new traditions, break out of old calcified routines, and promote growth into the future. How lucky will each of those 75,000+ be to attend history in the making? Luckier than those who will attend the Republican coronation.
Maybe that is what steams the right wing media - they will be outnumbered, they will not be able to preside over an elite Democratic coronation, the event will be unmanageable in terms of controlling the take-home message. They lose most if not all their power to frame Obama's speech, the tone of the convention, and the boost into the general campaign.
Are you certain the Mile High stadium will be big enough to hold Obama's ego? Will they resurrect Leni Riefenstahl to film the event? ill it be easier for Obama to ascend to heaven from a mile-high start?
This is utterly pathetic. 75,000 people excited and cheering for someone who isn't go to change anything.
Wow, that's a hoot. A traditional convention with all the party hats and the streamers and the screaming delegates. Oh, that's sooo serious.
swampfox @ 133:
The only other choice you got is McSame and the price is much too high so STFU and hold your nose and hope that once Obama is in office he will at least undo some of the crap that Bush burdened us with!
Oh, the hypocrisy
Oh, the republicanism.
Gary @ 144:
Yeah, well, then maybe they should do it. Maybe WE should do it. Pinning all the responsibility on the few is part of what got us into this mess. It's time we started taking an active interest in the events that effect our lives, no?
Pat J @ 100:
"Pageantry"? Don't you mean "pandering"?
I didn't find anything objectionable in Chuck Todd's analysis.
In politics there is always a tension between demagoguery and policy.
Unfortunately, if the last 25 years are any clue, the former usually trumps the latter in elections.
But who gives a fuck about that shit; policy and politics are temporary. I thought that Obama would stand for the Constitution, which is imho a great fucking document.
I think Obama will win, but just imagine how much sweeter it would have been if he had won it by standing up for truth, justice and the American way.
The only reason I'll vote for him (as opposed to staying home) is Supreme Court numbers. That's pretty fucking sad.
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