The Norman Bates Psycho float?

GOP slogan:

Nothing like a Goode hummer to make you forget about gas...

Kinda like IGMFU.

Typical Republican fuckwad.

I believe that is an H2. Quick correction. The H3 is the smaller one.

By the way, I as an american muslim from Virginia that considers myself progressive think Virgil Goode is an absolute discrace and should not speak publicly with VA next to his hame. We got rid of allen, we're going to get rid of an evil Warner for an angel Warner. And now it's time to get rid of nothing goode about him.

i have to admit and i know it's been awhile. i am still pissed at the bush administration for the huge tax credit given i believe in 2001-2002 to people owning/ driving these huge gas hogs.
look at GM now....they had that great idea to scrap the EV car. i guess there was bigger dough to be made selling the hummer. this reveals the difference in priorites/culture.

10 Jo Says: CowBoy Bob in Austin @ 4:

OH, GOD… I suppose now all the Hummer-Driver-Wanna-Be’s are gonna be voting for the Republicans. Jees… where did we go wrong?

General Motors is thinking of dropping the Hummer from production. Read it on Google news today.
______________________________________________________________________

I bet Bill Clinton can always find a hummer.

wow. just wow. the level of cluelessness that displays is jaw-dropping.

Oh man, that is bad. So bad.

I think I see some stickers on the Goode signs: Foreclosed.

As long as he isn't riding it full-time or encouraging anyone else to ride it full-time, I say it's fine. Doesn't exactly fit into a parade though, it looks like a freaking tank.

Biodiesel is made from Frickin French Fry Oil,or other Waste vegetable oils, an Otherwise wasted Trash product, NOT Virgin Veggie oil. It is true recycling of a Waste product that either goes to the Waste site/ Dump, or May be made into soap. SO what the problem with BioDieisel? Gasohol does NOT EQUAL Biodiesel! Please, gettest thou a clue....

The trappings of fascism are hard to give up.

P.D. @ 22:

I never understood the desire to buy a Hummer. It's a guy thing for sure. But what the Hell? Those bohemoths don't need to be on the road. Is it a substitute for a penis or what?

now hold on a sec....this is not exactly a "guy thing....and penis...whatever..." I have seen women get out of the darn thing with all their 110 Lbs weight....oh yeah and a dog...

I lived in Virginia. Jefferson and Washington and Lee and Wilson and Madison and Monroe wouldn't like their people much these days.

hannah a @ 14:

Bio fucking diesel? Where's his zoot suit made of starved dead African baby skin? The IBRD has tried to point out that gasohol, as it was called in its previous mercifully brief lame-brained incarnation, accounts for most of the rise in world food prices. In this stupid-goddamn-float duel of the titans, this is a split decision, the political equivalent of the big parade scene in Animal House.

bio fucking diesel.

Yes Bio Diesel...

However.... WE are using the wrong crops..

As the only Crop that we can even hope to get a surplus with is illegal to grow...

and that is HEMP...

Do not toss the baby out with the bath water..

Ethanol is a good idea... just not made from corn or soy... or even switch grass..

Bio-diesel is a great idea... just not from corn, or soy..

Hemp and Algae is the way to do it..

Hemp especially...

(we would have a huge world surplus... and that means some of the most nutritionally packed food available for the masses)

samdog @ 29:

I lived in Virginia. Jefferson and Washington and Lee and Wilson and Madison and Monroe wouldn't like their people much these days.

Fuck Lee. He fought AGAINST the United States. If he truly had reservations about fighting against his "fellow Virginians," but also found it hard to fight against the U.S., he should've simply not fought on either side. He was a hypocrite, and shouldn't continually be lionized. He was a traitor.

rduke @ 31:

hannah a @ 14:

Bio fucking diesel? Where's his zoot suit made of starved dead African baby skin? The IBRD has tried to point out that gasohol, as it was called in its previous mercifully brief lame-brained incarnation, accounts for most of the rise in world food prices. In this stupid-goddamn-float duel of the titans, this is a split decision, the political equivalent of the big parade scene in Animal House.

bio fucking diesel.

Yes Bio Diesel...

However.... WE are using the wrong crops..

As the only Crop that we can even hope to get a surplus with is illegal to grow...

and that is HEMP...

Do not toss the baby out with the bath water..

Ethanol is a good idea... just not made from corn or soy... or even switch grass..

Bio-diesel is a great idea... just not from corn, or soy..

Hemp and Algae is the way to do it..

Hemp especially...

(we would have a huge world surplus... and that means some of the most nutritionally packed food available for the masses)

Exactly. In fact I believe in Brazil they use a derivitive of Sugar Cane and consume little to no oil when it comes to public transportation or consumer automobiles. The use of corn is just a corporate welfare tool that helps keep the farmer hooked, allows the oil companies to keep oil as the main fuel product and scare us away from alternative fuels by telling us if we want alternative fuels we will have to sacrifice food for ourselves and the world. Ridiculous.

hannah a @ 14:

Bio fucking diesel? Where's his zoot suit made of starved dead African baby skin? The IBRD has tried to point out that gasohol, as it was called in its previous mercifully brief lame-brained incarnation, accounts for most of the rise in world food prices. In this stupid-goddamn-float duel of the titans, this is a split decision, the political equivalent of the big parade scene in Animal House.

bio fucking diesel.

Biodiesel is not the same thing as gasohol. Biodiesel can be made with waste vegetable oil, i.e. the stuff that restaurants pay to have hauled away.

hannah a @ 14:

Bio fucking diesel? Where's his zoot suit made of starved dead African baby skin? The IBRD has tried to point out that gasohol, as it was called in its previous mercifully brief lame-brained incarnation, accounts for most of the rise in world food prices. In this stupid-goddamn-float duel of the titans, this is a split decision, the political equivalent of the big parade scene in Animal House.

bio fucking diesel.

Wow. That's the stupidest thing I've heard all week. Bio-diesel is in no way, shape or form the same thing as alcohol/gasohol.

Actually, correction: Kathryn Lopez saying that Bush should be a teacher when he's out of the WH is the stupidest thing I heard all week.

rduke @ 31:

Yes Bio Diesel...

However.... WE are using the wrong crops..

As the only Crop that we can even hope to get a surplus with is illegal to grow...

and that is HEMP...

Do not toss the baby out with the bath water..

Ethanol is a good idea... just not made from corn or soy... or even switch grass..

Bio-diesel is a great idea... just not from corn, or soy..

Hemp and Algae is the way to do it..

Hemp especially...

(we would have a huge world surplus... and that means some of the most nutritionally packed food available for the masses)

Algae is better than hemp because about half of the algae's mass is lipids (ie: biodiesel), plus closed system algae tubes is easier to control than open farming. However, hemp and various grasses are still better crops than corn, and using those would be at least a step in the right direction.

Just in case anyone is trying to figure out what the argument is about here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

r3a1ist @ 9:

By the way, I as an american muslim from Virginia that considers myself progressive think Virgil Goode is an absolute discrace and should not speak publicly with VA next to his hame. We got rid of allen, we're going to get rid of an evil Warner for an angel Warner. And now it's time to get rid of nothing goode about him.

Time to take out the trash, huh?

Anyway, we have here a candidate who walks the walk, whereas Goode can't even walk in a parade. What better way to demonstrate your wealth than flaunting it to the faces of the downtrodden by tooling around in a gas guzzling Humvee?

What, is he scared that the "Islamo-whatevers" are gonna jack his ass?

These technical feedstock subtleties are beyond my blinkered ken. Regardless of where George Jetson will get his biofuels in the late postholocene age, nowadays they are, for all practical purposes, made from the purloined cheerios of [deleted--cut out the racial stereotypes in your tirade, please]. That is what sux. What's more, long before low-impact biofuels production gets scaled up, the oil price will have gone back down to make it uneconomical.

The Hummer also weighs three tons, but is owned by peckerwoods who don't believe in building up the infrastructure they're trashing by driving these tanks. I always thought speeding tickets should be based on the momentum (mass x velocity) of the vehicle, as that's a better indication of the destructive potential than just the velocity.

hannah a @ 45:

These technical feedstock subtleties are beyond my blinkered ken. Regardless of where George Jetson will get his biofuels in the late postholocene age, nowadays they are, for all practical purposes, made from the purloined cheerios of [deleted--cut out the racial stereotypes in your tirade, please]. That is what sux. What's more, long before low-impact biofuels production gets scaled up, the oil price will have gone back down to make it uneconomical.

To clarify: there's a metric crapload of waste vegetable oil being generated by restaurants of all sorts, all across the world. If you don't believe this, go stick your hand in the big metal bin behind your local Taco Hell or TGIFridays that smells like a combination of fries, onion rings and chicken fingers...if you can get into it these days, as they typically lock them down now that biodiesel has become valuable. THIS is largely what they make biodiesel from, not sugar cane or future Cheerios. In short, it's already been used and now it's considered waste. No subtlety needed.

Frenetic arm-waving aside, this is probably not a permanent solution, and if everyone switched to biodiesel immediately there'd probably be a need to convert unused oil straight into fuel. I'm sure you're not advocating drilling for more oil and re-allocating the misery into other people's lives instead.

I'm really looking forward to the introduction of the Volt -- sure, GM has bowed to the oil companies by not making it completely electric...and the company already royally screwed up with their handling of the EV-1 -- but at least it's a step in the right direction. I'd really prefer to see the auto sector go completely electric for commuter vehicles, and then provide accessories that make it easier to charge up the automobiles with solar energy whenever possible. If it was mass-market, you could bet prices would come down enough to make this more affordable. But it doesn't seem to be in the corporate interest to do that yet, does it? THAT is what sux.

Martunez @ 26:

Goode is a gashole, no doubt. But that Hummer was chosen purposefully, I am sure, for its value as a symbol of American triumphalism. Let's just hope the people of his district aren't stupid enough to be moved by it.

I think the people of his district regard him as an intellectual luminary. Such is life, sadly. They put him in office precisely because he is a narrow minded bigot who wears his bigotry with pride.

The Hummer is a symbol of the waste and rapine that Goode's Party have perpetrated and continue to perpetrate.

I hope the s.o.b. gets kicked out of office, but I'm afraid the majority of voters in Goode's district just ain't that bright.

Blue Buddha @ 50:

Biodiesel is the next step because it's a technology that exists with something we're going to waste anyway... it's a solution for now. Solar/low impact wind farms that will power the entire infrastructure is something that's still decades away, even if we were to devote all resources toward it.

Having spent a bit of time in Japan -- just a bit, mind you -- I was struck while riding in from the airport to the centers of both Tokyo and Osaka about just HOW MANY roofs in the city had solar panels on top of them. No, it wasn't all of the houses and apartments, but it was substantial enough. While I was there I spent some time at a technology conference called CEATEC, and the Japanese company Sharp was showing off a wide assortment of solar panels...this was 5 years ago. More recently I had the chance to see their plant at Kameyama, where they were generating a high percentage of their power needs (used for manufacturing flat panel monitors) through their own solar panels. Panasonic had a huge building in downtown Tokyo that used renewable energy for part of its power, including something as simple as mini-turbines INSIDE the posts of the streetlamps around the facility --they gathered power from the wind during the day and spit it back out as light at night.

Coming back to North America and attending a huge technology show like the Consumer Electronics Show, you'd be hardpressed to believe that there are any solar panels larger than the ones you'd find powering a solar radio or calculator...even at Sharp's own booth, there's very little evidence found there.

I suppose an argument could be made that the economies of scale are much different between a country like Japan and a country like the USA -- but Japan is large enough, population-wise, and they've proven that it's possible to get started on the problem. Here in North America we keep telling ourselves "oh, it's not economical", and so we never get started. And we're going to find ourselves in 10 years with $25 a gallon gas, no other way to make our cars and buildings function, while the Asian economy has transitioned to solar, the Europeans have made the most of wind farms, and so on and so forth.

The one thing I was really pleased to see during a recent drive across the northern end of the US on the I-90 was the amount of wind farms near the highway in both Washington state and across the bottom of Minnesota (and sporadically across other parts of the route). I have no clue who it was, precisely, that was putting up the turbines, but it shows that even if the US government itself isn't particularly interested in pursuing wind as a feasible alternative to coal, natural gas and nucelar, other people are doing it on their own.

Despite the awesome productive capacity of America's shitty greasy chain restaurants, last 2 years oilseed prices have gone up 157%. That strains the food aid budget for WFP and their ilk. So those cans that the mammies carry home on their heads with oil dripping down their faces because the aid workers poke holes in the cans so they can't sell it on, WFP has gone begging for them lately. You're burning it to putter off to the mall.

But the solution is at hand. It's called ruin. Demand destruction in the OECD and the NICs. Americans go broke. Chinese go broke. Oil prices fall, food prices fall. So all you have to do to fix the world is get evicted. Do it for the children.

Jo @ 18:

hannah a @ 14:

Bio fucking diesel? Where's his zoot suit made of starved dead African baby skin? The IBRD has tried to point out that gasohol, as it was called in its previous mercifully brief lame-brained incarnation, accounts for most of the rise in world food prices. In this stupid-goddamn-float duel of the titans, this is a split decision, the political equivalent of the big parade scene in Animal House.

bio fucking diesel.

hanna, you are absolutely right on!

No you aren't. You are seriously misinformed, for starters. And where's your factual basis for your accusation? Real the facts about ethanol:

www.ethanol.org/index.php?id=83&parentid=25

And bio fucking diesel:

www.biodiesel.org/resources/pressreleases/gen/20080414_food_supply.pdf

I have used 100% bio fucking diesel in my 86 MB 300SDL for years, which works great and contributes zero profit to the oil gluttons. And no American soldier has died recently defending a corn field. Such as not the case in Iraq.

You are helping to promote a smear campaign against biofuels by the Grocery Manufacturers Association:

www.ethanol.org/pdf/contentmgmt/Grocery_manufacturers_claims_are_deceivi...

Check your "facts" next time before you spew baseless propaganda.

Every time I get a dollar bill that says "I GREW HEMP" under his picture, it makes me smile.

bmw H. 528 @ 59:

No you aren't. You are seriously misinformed, for starters. And where's your factual basis for your accusation? Real the facts about ethanol:

www.ethanol.org/index.php?id=83&parentid=25

And bio fucking diesel:

www.biodiesel.org/resources/pressreleases/gen/20080414_food_supply.pdf

I have used 100% bio fucking diesel in my 86 MB 300SDL for years, which works great and contributes zero profit to the oil gluttons. And no American soldier has died recently defending a corn field. Such as not the case in Iraq.

You are helping to promote a smear campaign against biofuels by the Grocery Manufacturers Association:

www.ethanol.org/pdf/contentmgmt/Grocery_manufacturers_claims_are_deceivi...

Check your "facts" next time before you spew baseless propaganda.

Still pimping the 'grassroots' ethanol bullshitters, eh?

And your source for debunking the food/fuel argument is an ethanol promotion site?

The American Coalition for Ethanol (ACE) is the grassroots voice of the U.S. ethanol industry, the nation's largest association dedicated to the production and use of ethanol.

From your source, (ALWAYS click the 'ABOUT' button) http://www.ethanol.org/index.php?id=7&parentid=7

ACE is a non-profit, membership-based organization of nearly 2,000 members nationwide, including: ethanol producers, farmers, investors, the agriculture community, industry suppliers, rural electric cooperatives, and others supportive of the increased production and use of ethanol across America.

You're gonna have to try that again. These people are hardly 'impartial' or 'unbiased' Calling themselves 'grassroots' is disingenuous, to say the least. 'Industry suppliers' could be ADM...

Board of Directors

President: Bob Scott / POET Ethanol Products
Vice President: Brian Wilcox / Nebraska Public Power District
Secretary: Merle Anderson / Minnkota Power Cooperative
Treasurer: Owen Jones / 4 Seasons Cooperative

Darin Anderson / North Dakota Corn Growers Association
Jeff Broin / POET, LLC
John Campbell / AGP Inc.
Mark Dillon / Golden Growers Cooperative
Dick Hanson / Chippewa Valley Ethanol Company
R. Lars Herseth / Member at Large
Bill Honnef / VeraSun Fort Dodge
Randy Knecht / CHS Inc.
Bobby Koepplin / North Dakota Rural Electric Cooperatives
Duane Kristensen / Chief Ethanol Fuels
Harold Newman / Alchem LTD
Ron Obermoller / Minnesota Corn Growers Association
Randall Owen / McLeod Coop Power
Scott Parsley / East River Electric Power
Howard Roe / POET Biorefining - Coon Rapids
James Redding / Aventine Renewable Energy, Inc.
Kirk Schaunaman / South Dakota Corn Growers Association
Harvey Tallackson / Nodak Electric Co-op
Wayne Wagner / Red River Valley Sugar Beet Growers

A very MANLY grassroots organisation, I might add.

Here's something I posted in the open thread from two days ago for your edification

bmw H. 528 @ 131:

Sorry, but naming their board of directors and offering the opinion that their research is null and void because ACE is an industry advocate is flat out wrong. Try addressing the facts that they state, please. And if you bother to look at the companies these people represent very few if any of them is a Fortune 500 company. A majority of them are locally owned cooperatives that provide good paying jobs to rural areas that frankly, need help. And some of them support the Apollo Alliance---does that mean that their efforts are tainted, too?

So if you think that ACE's reasoning is wrong---where's your evidence to the contrary?

Why do I need any? I was pointing out that the source you cite is all about promoting and selling ethanol.

Pay attention, would you?

Followed by this informational tidbit:

Secret Report: Biofuel Caused Food Crisis
Internal World Bank Study Delivers Blow to Plant Energy Drive
Aditya Chakrabortty
The Guardian,
Friday July 4, 2008

---snip---

"Biofuels have forced global food prices up by 75% - far more than previously estimated - according to a confidential World Bank report obtained by the Guardian.

The damning unpublished assessment is based on the most detailed analysis of the crisis so far, carried out by an internationally-respected economist at global financial body.

The figure emphatically contradicts the US government's claims that plant-derived fuels contribute less than 3% to food-price rises. It will add to pressure on governments in Washington and across Europe, which have turned to plant-derived fuels to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and reduce their dependence on imported oil.

Senior development sources believe the report, completed in April, has not been published to avoid embarrassing President George Bush.

"It would put the World Bank in a political hot-spot with the White House," said one yesterday..."

Just in case you're still checking in. Democracy Now! reported this today...

SECRET REPORT. by the WORLD BANK. bmw, I don't expect you to believe it, since you seem to be married to the Old White Guys Ethanol Promo Club

May Mother Gaia ever nurse you in her bounteous bosom. I smear your precision engineered name-brand German auto not with the lies of fatass agribusiness rubes, but with sinister neoliberal propaganda:

http://web.worldbank.org/WBSITE/EXTERNAL/NEWS/0,,contentMDK:21827681~pag...

Carbs are carbs, you see. But everything will be OK when we all go broke.

No, Miss Kitty I don't believe it and won't until you come up with a credible source that has verifiable facts. As for the rest of your comments---spare me your rude and insulting associations.

Hmmm, who doesn't seem to get it. Per usual, Nicole likes to yammer about "the Republicans" as if they're the only crooks and liars.

The Republican in this case makes a choice that demonstrates he's got more money than sense.

The Democrat in this case makes the choice to participate in an activity that has cause global food prices to skyrocket. Biofuel as currently implement is bullshit people. While the Republican made a bad choice, the Democrat is making an even worse choice.

It's a big fat lie for C&L to post crap like this, as though the biofuel option is the better option. Complete b.s.

P.D. @ 66:

To those who took offense to my Hummer = Man stance, I apologize. But, as a womwan, I would never buy a gas-guzzler. As a Mom, I believe in nature. And boy is she pissed.

No offense here. Some times I do take offense when a feminist posts something like "this just shows that all men are evil and only want to dominate women" I saw lots of that during the Spitzer thing for example. Its so simple minded. I mean to start with some men pay good money to be dominated BY women (I know a couple of women who make a nice living that way). But I digress. There are some times when the X = male = penis thing is right on. I can't see any other explanation for the emotional reaction toward gun control for example and the Hummer is another case that only makes sense to me that way.

http://www.youtube.com/v/fekwMIXXTy8&hl=en&fs=1

...clipped the link

Plug-in hybrid, w/biodiesel generator. Charge it with wind at home, go 150 mpg on algae-based diesel.

We'd better hurry and build the infrastructure before the oil runs out.

People will have to live nearer where they work and work places will have to be near where their staff live. Or companies will have to develop a culture where teleworking is not a disadvantage (e.g. make it mandatory (*)). I'm not sure what else would make the low population density regions viable long term. Denial certainly won't.

(*) That could create problems by making outsourcing easier. But then, the real solution to outsourcing and illegal employment of non-citizens is action to improve conditions outside the first world.

But you dismiss the fact that it's all about LOOKING macho and not really BEING macho.

Snearing in the face of total bankruptcy and yet clinging to your Hummer takes a total absense of intelligence. I give you the Bush 23%'ers...

Instead of playing 'Sheep' from Pink Floyd as their public theme music, they are playing 'It's going to get better' from Genesis...

miss_kitty @ 70:

bmw H. 528 @ 67:

No, Miss Kitty I don't believe it and won't until you come up with a credible source that has verifiable facts. As for the rest of your comments---spare me your rude and insulting associations.

Nothing rude about what I said. Now you're just becoming hysterical.
I just think everyone should be informed about sourcing. ACE is an "Up With Ethanol" organisation. I don't believe you read the article I offered. It cites the World Bank, which wanted to keep it quiet, for political reasons. I believe that is plenty credible.

And I don't have to show you anything. I'm not saying they lie about facts. As I have stated, I am merely pointing out your source has much to gain from the promotion of ethanol. It's their Raison d'être.

If you can't stand the heat, don't post on the blog.

Hysterical? Really?

I'm well aware of what ACE is, what they advocate, and that they are a corporate advocacy group. Unlike you, I don't have an anti-corporate bias to promote, and through personal experience I am well aware what the benefits of biofuels are. As the bumper sticker says on my car---Biofuels---no war required. Don't like biofuels? Then good luck with the oil industry. Ask the people at Prince William Sound in Alaska how charitible these people were by giving them $16,000.00 as a settlement in punitive damages when the Exxon Valdez destroyed their livelihood---perhaps permanently.

As far as your rude comments and associations go, you may think that you were not offensive but I beg to differ. I don't appreciate being associated with the patriarchy, which I despise, and look forward to their eventual replacement by their rightful heir, the spiritual feminine. So spare me your white male country club sexist stereotypes, please.

I read your article and most of it is unsupported opinion and projection. They cite their source as being Confidential -yeah, right. A good way to avoid fact checking and verification of their claim but still whip up a little hysteria to sell their paper. They must have learned that manipulative trick from the American MSM. And shame on the World Bank for bring a co conspirator in a fraud.

It looks like the only thing you read on the ethanol.org site was the list of the Board and discovered to your chagrin that they were all men running an evil, oppressive corporation. Why don't you set aside your anti corporate bias and sexist prejudice and actually check out the verifiable facts they have posted?

As far as taking the heat---people like you don't deter me. I was raised in a political family and learned long ago that political advocacy is not a gentleman's sport. While I would bet we agree on most issues, we don't on this one, and so be it. We'll agree to disagree.

Proud2bHumble @ 3:

GOP slogan:

Nothing like a Goode hummer to make you forget about gas...

NICE ONE, Proud!

Just to confirm - that is an H2 not an H3. The H3 is a prius in comparison to the H2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hummer_H2

worth a read as it covers the tax BENEFITS of owning one of these vehicles and how it is also exempt from mileage requirements as it is over 8500 pounds. Thanks GW!

Horrimobile

hannah a @ 14:

Bio fucking diesel? Where's his zoot suit made of starved dead African baby skin? The IBRD has tried to point out that gasohol, as it was called in its previous mercifully brief lame-brained incarnation, accounts for most of the rise in world food prices. In this stupid-goddamn-float duel of the titans, this is a split decision, the political equivalent of the big parade scene in Animal House.

bio fucking diesel.

Apparently you don't know what bio-diesel is. Gasohol and bio-diesel aren't the same thing. BIop-diesel is previously-used vegetable oil that's been processed to run as diesel. Previously used, get it? No privation involved. Maybe you should find out what you're talking about before you shoot off your mouth? Better luck next time.

Nothing surprising here. The Republicans play well to that (hopefully) small segment of America that still believes we'll soon be back to $1.00 gallon gas; a steak on every bbq; and God sure will smote those infidels. All of them.

Lots of ecosanctimony here. Carry on consuming, it's nothing that can't be fixed with a nice liquidity trap.

Jo @ 10:

CowBoy Bob in Austin @ 4:

OH, GOD... I suppose now all the Hummer-Driver-Wanna-Be's are gonna be voting for the Republicans. Jees... where did we go wrong?

General Motors is thinking of dropping the Hummer from production. Read it on Google news today.

There thinking of selling the entire division - too little too late

Would you rather have pansy Perriello running things on the fairy float or Goode rocking house in the Optimus Prime Hummer

Perhaps you should read the thread. 157% increase in oilseed prices. How do you account for that - booming demand for Chicken Macnuggets?

WD @ 92:

The one thing I was really pleased to see during a recent drive across the northern end of the US on the I-90 was the amount of wind farms near the highway in both Washington state and across the bottom of Minnesota (and sporadically across other parts of the route). I have no clue who it was, precisely, that was putting up the turbines, but it shows that even if the US government itself isn’t particularly interested in pursuing wind as a feasible alternative to coal, natural gas and nucelar, other people are doing it on their own.

The ones in North Dakota were put up by an electric cooperative. The co-ops, which still supply power to a lot of rural areas, are indeed an excellent example of "people doing it on their own."

I ended up going through South Dakota instead of North Dakota so I missed those ones -- but that's good to hear!

Congressman Goode did not bring the Hummer, for a matter of fact. The flag toting American driver is Ty Wigal, a member of the Fluvanna Repbulicans and ardent supporter of Congressman Goode. The vehicle is owned and operated by an individual other than Virgil. Funny how personal freedom and hard work allow for such a thing. What is more American than a Hummer driving down Main Street America on the 4th of July? Drill now, and harness the billions of gallons of oil under our own land. We could all drive Hummers then. At least, those of us who own and operate a successful small business in America.

hannah a @ 99:

Perhaps you should read the thread. 157% increase in oilseed prices. How do you account for that - booming demand for Chicken Macnuggets?

Primarily increasing energy costs---that biofuels helped to contain, not increase. Stop being such a dupe of the oil industry, or if you have credible proof---bring it on. No proof---no credibility.

miss_kitty @ 90:

bmw H. 528 @ 81:

As far as taking the heat---people like you don't deter me. I was raised in a political family and learned long ago that political advocacy is not a gentleman's sport. While I would bet we agree on most issues, we don't on this one, and so be it. We'll agree to disagree.

I grew up in a political family too. And we do agree on most issues. I've always liked your comments...

Just not this one. BTW, I studied ag issues and the like in college. I'm not just shooting flames out my arse.

Understood---and I know you aren't throwing those comments out there just for fun. Unlike confrontational, all knowing Republicans and some others, we can agree that this issue is a minor point compared to the majority of issues that we do agree on.

Biofuels are just a limited and temporary solution until we find a more sustainable model---best bet for now would be fuel cell cars powered by hydrogen. We shall see. If we go that way---we need a Marshall like government sponsored plan to construct the infrastructure needed. Energy independence and ability to live within our means is the best gift we can give to future generations.

Sure would be nice if you got your facts straight before you printed such stuff. Virgil did not ride in the Hummer...just because he walked beside it and it had signs with his name on it doesn't mean it was his ride. The vehicle was donated by the owner, an individual resident in Fluvanna County who earned his own money to pay for it and the gas it guzzles. But even if he did, what does that have to do with the price of gas? It's not consumers driving up the fuel prices...it's the fact that we're relying on the rest of the world for something we could be producing ourselves. I'm all in favor of bio-fuels but why not drill here now too?

The smell of the armpit, as mentioned by brantl, is liberty and free thought, for the rare soul that can perceive it.

Sorry to trouble this tirade with facts, but Virgil never even touched the Hummer much less ride in it.

I love to see free exchange of ideas here. Just who is it that is close minded, judgmental and down right nasty?

Biodiesel? Feasible in about 10 years of solid implementation. Best long term solution. Think algae, for those who truly understand biomass conversion.

Ethanol? Good gas additive. Poor stand alone fuel. Cellulose conversion vs. corn. Not a real solution but can supply perhaps 12-13% of energy needs when fully implemented.

Drill now? Priceless. Cut gas prices in half by drilling what lies dormant under our feet. Respect the environment? Sure. $2 a gallon for gas? Drill now. Domestic startups could sabotage the current attempts to undermine the American economy using gas prices and trumped up fear of the housing market slump. The economy is stronger than most Americans perceive. A little innovation and positive attitude could get things right back on track.

Or perhaps the left and right can just bicker like ninnies. That being said.....

Climate change is a farce. Solar activity impacts the environment at a minimum factor of ten versus any footprint by man.

Al Gore has an electric bill of over 1K per month in his mansion while he makes millions telling us to cut back on our energy use. That guy has a racket but has no clue about science.

Big Bang? Bull. Where did the initial matter for the explosion come from?

Evolution of species? Pre-cambrian/Cambrian fossil records indicate hard sea shells such as oysters, trilobites and soft single cells and soft jellyfish. In millions of fossils, not one transition. NOT ONE. What is up with that?
Additionally, life cannot begin in oxygen as molecular bonds are shredded by oxidation. Then again, oxygen is required by almost all earth life for respiration. What a paradox. Life starts in water? Think again, hydrolysis again destroys molecular bonds. Amino acids are dextrorotational yet we can only consistently synthesize levorotational versions.

Just where did life start?

ty @ 111:

Just where did life start?

The Flying Spaghetti Monster- because someone said so.

I'll pit my theory against yours any day.