Joe Lieberman On This Week: The Surge Troops Are Coming Home
By Logan Murphy Sunday Jul 06, 2008 8:45am
Senators Joe Lieberman and Jack Reed appeared on last Sunday's This Week and as always, Holy Joe goes to battle for his BFF, GOP presidential candidate John McCain. McCain has been struggling to stay on message and to fool connect with the average voter, so Joe gladly gives him a hand by distorting facts and outright lying about the state of the Iraqi government and U.S. troop withdrawals:
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LIEBERMAN: With all respect to Jack -- and he's my dear friend -- the Iraqi political leadership has reconciled. I mean, that's one of the great things that's happened as a result of the surge. There's greater security. Maliki has shown strength. The Sunnis are now trusting him, and the Kurds are, as well. The economy is moving. Iraq is on the way...
STEPHANOPOULOS: But then the U.S. can withdraw, right?
LIEBERMAN: The U.S. is withdrawing. In fact, the surge troops
are coming out. We expect to hear from General Petraeus this summer, as he told us earlier in the year before the Armed Services Committee, about whether we can bring more troops out in the fall.
I wonder if Joe read the GAO report released last month (PDF) that states that the surge isn't going as well as he says it is? A little truthiness goes a long way with the uniformed American, and Joe has shown amazing talent in that area. SOME of the surge troops will be coming home this summer, but President Bush put a freeze on further troop withdrawals. This freeze is supposed to be temporary, but it's not likely to be lifted before the November election. As for Iraqi reconciliation:
Has the Iraqi government followed through on its promises? Well, the GAO reports that while some legislation has been passed to restore Ba'ath Party members to government (although many have questioned the legitimacy of these efforts), give amnesty to some detainees and define provincial powers, on many of the larger, stickier issues, no progress has been made. The report notes that the Iraqi government has not enacted "important legislation for sharing oil resources or holding provincial elections" and that "[e]fforts to complete constitutional review have also stalled." Read on...
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Lieberman represents all that is wrong with politicians: smug, prevaricating, self-aggrandizing, propagandizing and opportunistic.
Maybe the good people of Connecticut will wake up and get rid of him.
Dear Connecticut,
Please stop voting.
Sincerely,
America
Facts were never Joe's strong suit. Just jumble up some words that sound good and spit them out.
What does it matter? Obama and McCain both are trying to court Zionists so Holy Joe will have no problem pushing his violent/racist policies through the White House come next January.
Coming from the same playbook that said it was okay for McCain to tell the world that it was so safe in Iraq that General Petraeus rode around Baghdad in an unarmored car. Of course the general's people said that wasn't true, but it didn't keep McCain from saying it.
theWalrus @ 1:
You said it! I can't imagine why anyone would even listen to this lying effer. The man has no shame.
Zionism is Racism @ 4:
Oy vey.
pissed off patricia @ 5:
Makes you wonder how stupid these "leaders" really think the populace is, doesn't it?
right on! @ 8:
Here's a clue...
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/07/07/leftist_fringe/index.html
Question from Stephanopoulos IF he were a journalist OR just intelligent: How does an expected report coming this summer equate to you stating that factually the troops are coming out?
LIEBERMAN: The U.S. is withdrawing. In fact, the surge troops
are coming out. We expect to hear from General Petraeus this summer, as he told us earlier in the year before the Armed Services Committee, about whether we can bring more troops out in the fall.
Does he listen to himself? How does "the US is withdrawing" reconcile with "we expect to hear from General Petraeus about whether we can bring more troops out..."
theWalrus @ 1:
You hit that nail right on the head!
When the Democrats have a strong majority after November, they need to send this scheister packing.
The GREAT IRAQ SWINDLE continues.
Maybe Joe knows something that Petraeus hasn't been told yet.
"...surge troops coming out..." What a Crock!
"to protect and defend the constitution of the united states from all enemies foreign and domestic"
are words i said 27 years ago this month.
i see some domestic enemies
My personal favorite Holy Joe lie is when he said “John McCain is principled and consistent”. Bwahahahahaha. What a crock of sh*t. Holy Joe has painted himself into a corner and it’s such a fine sight to see.
Sure they are. Uh huh.
When will they stop giving this dirt bag air time? Like i said the other day....http://www.tagg-lines.com/2008/07/where-do-i-begin.html
LIEBERMAN: The U.S. is withdrawing. In fact, the surge troops
are coming out. We expect to hear from General Petraeus this summer, as he told us earlier in the year before the Armed Services Committee, about whether we can bring more troops out in the fall.
Little does Joe Voter know, Bush is planning on sending these troops straight to Afghanistan!
Oh, and I love the return of the "let's wait and see what Gen. Petraeus has to say" meme. As if we hadn't gotten enough of it last summer.
Who is he trying to convince? Me or himself?
Meanwhile in Teh 'Stan:
US Air Strikes Kill 49 Afghan Civilians
The US military is being accused of killing as many forty-nine Afghan civilians in a pair of separate air strikes over the weekend. On Sunday, local officials in eastern Afghanistan said a US air strike killed twenty-seven civilians at a wedding party. The dead included the new bride, as well as many women and children. Meanwhile, Afghan President Hamid Karzai has ordered an investigation into a separate US helicopter strike that reportedly killed up to twenty-two civilians on Friday. The United States military has disputed the accounts of both air strikes.
Ahem. The Republicans might just win on this strategy. And sadly McCain is right...As long as our troops aren't dying in big, NYT numbers, for the most part Americans don't give a hoot if there are troops there, or in Bosnia (nine years there) or anywhere else.
theWalrus @ 9:
LIEberman is not capable of speaking the truth.....period....end of story.
I can't even stand to watch him when he's on TV - reminds me of Kristol - they both have some kind of weird mouth thing going on. I guess that's what happens to your face after pushing out so many LIES.
I don't know why Lieberman just doesn't officially switch parties... it has become a silly joke...
Whinny, insufferable, hypocritical, back-stabbing, 'gonna take my toys and go play elsewhere' ba*tard!
Curtsie!
Why don't Dems call bullshit on this stuff in the moment? Where was Reed's rebuttal? No, he just let Joe-Lie's crapola stand. Where is the passion in Democratic speakers? It's like watching Dukakis give his kitty rape response.
Joe's going to keep lying.
The media's going to keep giving him the venue to lie.
We need to have spokespeople who call this stuff. We're supposed to be the party of the people, the party of empathy...where is it?
Jon Stewart didn't kill Crossfire...it's morphed into the modus operandi of the media today. We must deal with it...with tactics that work. It's not going away.
Dow Jones reporting 5 blasts in Karachi Pakistan.
Joe, we all know who your daddy is.
Israel.
NOT the USA.
Please move there and leave us to run our country.
You're a douche. Go kiss Hannitys ass now.
Zionism is Racism @ 4:
Pot, meet kettle.
Liberman should just switch to being a Republican and call it a day. He also needs to stop calling Democrats in Congress his "friends" because he has not shown himself to be a friend but a liar and doing all he can to undermine the Dems. He can lie all he wants for McBush McSame 100yr WAR McCain but it will not put him in the White House. Stick to checking McCain's bearings Joe that is only what you are good for
theWalrus @ 7:
Yes, let's not forget that Obama supported Lieberman over Ned Lamont in the Conn. senate race. Also Obama sits on The Homeland Security Committee which is chaired by Lieberman. On the issue of Israel, Lieberman, Obama, Clinton and McCain are thick as thieves.
And BTW, according to this article I think Maliki may be having different thoughts about the future relationship Iraq has with the United States "occupying forces":
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSL0353522920080707?feedType=RS...
If you can read the GAO report and I can read the GAO report, then why the fuck can't snofolopogus? And then point out LIEberman's lies while someone is watching the damn show! What the fuck kind of 'journalist' lets these slime balls lie to their faces and says nothing to refute the crap. Journalists, my ass.
Holy Joe takes his talking points from the NeoCons who take their talking points from AIPAC who...
You get the picture.
Meanwhile...
Our military men become the Hessians of the 21st century. The current occupant of the Oval Office is allowing the country to get stiffed so my granddaughters and yours are going to get stuck with the bill.
Oh, and here's one more little tidbit.
How many on this thread realize what a major cheerleader McCain was for the criminal Chalabi around the time of "Shock and Awe"?
McCain was a Chalabi backer long before President Bush took power. In 1997, he tried to pressure the Clinton administration into setting up an Iraqi government in exile. Despite opposition from the Pentagon and the State Department, the next fall, McCain co-sponsored the Iraq Liberation Act, committing the United States to overthrowing Saddam and funding opposition groups. According to a 2006 article by John Judis:
McCain welcomed Ahmed Chalabi, leader of the Iraqi National Congress (INC), to Washington and pressured the administration to give him money. When General Anthony Zinni cast doubt upon the effectiveness of the Iraqi opposition, McCain rebuked him at a hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee.
In 2003, McCain joined four other Republican senators and asked Bush to “personally clear the bureaucratic roadblocks within the State Department” that blocked increased funding for the Chalabi’s group.
Also that year, McCain said of Chalabi, “He’s a patriot who has the best interests of his country at heart.”
Abbybwood @ 32:
So let's all stay home and pout on election day because Obama meet our ideological standards. That way McCain will be guaranteed to win.
I will vote for any Democrat over any Republican even if the Democrat is a yellow dog.
Abbybwood @ 32:
NOT TRUE.
Obama supported Lieberman (the incumbent) in the primary. He supported Lamont (the Dem. candidate) in the general Senate election.
Get your facts straight before continuing with your vitriole.
It's a no-shit Sherlock that more people mean less violence, especially when there are so many refugees outside the border of Iraq. There's been some returning, but not much. The Shia have split for Syria and the Sunni's for Iran, so there's also less of each other to attack.
If we can't withdraw all the forces without risking violence than the surge is just a bandaid. We can't stay there indefinitely.
Actually Maliki has been weakened. Remember his surge to defeat the "terrorists?" It was led by his forces with Americans lending support. It failed miserably. It made Muqtada Al Sadr look reasonable as he brokered the peace. Then it came out that hundred of Maliki's officers refused to fight.
All the surge has done is strenghten Muqtada Al Sadr. It was his orders that pulled back his Mahdi Army. Mahdi by the way means something like our messiah or saviour, although generally purely human. Muqtada appears to be positioning himself like Iraq's own ayatollah, but whoever's in charge, he wants to call the shots.
Al Sadr looks closer to being Iraq next strong-man ruler, like Saddam Hussein, but more "religious" and less secular.
I saw this yesterday and was swearing at the TV (and at Lieberman). Is there anyone who has been more toxic to the Democratic party than Lieberman? Zell Miller wasn't the party's VP nominee.
Thanks, CT!
Oopsie, Shia have split for Iran, Sunni for Syria.
Good thing I'm not a travel agent
Or a caterer planning a wedding and a funeral at the same time.
ysbaddaden @ 38:
Is Mookie short for Muqtada?
ysbaddaden @ 40:
Or a half-senile presidential candidate who can't admit he's wrong 90% of the time.
Good morning, Ysbad.
Obama was a big supporter for Deputy Dawg to get elected.
Gore picked him for VP.
Talk about shooting your own foot.
Old Billy Hussein @ 37:
Another flip flop?
harley @ 43:
Let me guess, you didn't vote for Gore/LIEbermann because of your powerful foresight.
harley @ 44:
Supporting the Democrat and not the independent is a flip-flop? You shillary cultists are getting desperate.
Joe Lieberman....zionist, kosher pig.
The most succesful American lobbyist the Israeli war industry ever hired.
And just maybe, the naive people of America will give him the VP job?
I don't know what's worse anymore: the blatant lies that come from these assholes, or the sheer contempt they have for the American people?
Welcome to the Corporate States of America! Brought to you by your corporate MSM, and sponsored by your corporate military industrial complex!
Lying Lieberman is on the same planet with Condi Rice, Dick Cheney and the rest of the lame duck Bush administration. When will they be indicted for their CRIMES???
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 47:
"I supported him before, I was against him"?
Supporting someone JUST because they have a D behind their name is not change I can believe in.
Old Billy Hussein @ 40:
Every Sunday, Joe can be found stumping for McCain and yet the dems still allow him to caucas, chair his non-committee, etc. By now, they should stripping him of his position for the pure pleasure of it!
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 46:
Obama supported Deputy Dawg reelection in early 2006, before he was against it - who is the cultist now?
Schleprock speaks again...
"Wowzie wowzie woo woo..."
It wouldn't surprise me one bit to see at least a noticeable amount of the "Surge" troops return. Not all of course, but a brigade or two so the Republicans can get away with saying "Most have come home" - in September/October of course, so the media has plenty of time to report it before the election.
After the election of course, all those troops will be headed back. The Republican's don't give a shit about the Iraqi people or our soldiers, they'll play politics with their lives in a heartbeat if they think it will help McCain get elected.
Lieberman is just giving us a look at the Bush/McCain plan for fooling the electorate again this fall. I'd wager money that this is the "Trump Card" Bush & McCain will play if they can't sink Obama with good old fashioned Republican racism and smear tactics.
Actually in my process of elimination I wanted Gore, but he never declared, then Clark, but he never declared, then Edwards, but the MSM ignored him, but by then I was also considering Biden and Dodd, but they withdrew.
That Left Behind Hillary and Obama, and his views are substantially the same as hers and the DLC, except he wouldn't expand health-care beyond children. I have first-hand experience on how health-care expenses of ANYBODY in the family can destroy the financial stability of the whole unit. Additionally, I didn't like the revival tent atmosphere of so many of his appearances, and although Hillary had the speaking style of a law instructor who could make your eyes glaze over and roll back I went toward her. But I also had a wait and see attitude. Afterall look how successful Shirley Chisholm and Pat Schroeder were.
I would probably automatically go toward Obama after the primary, but I hated the nasty commentary of his supporters on sites like this, and am considering Brian Moore the Socialist, but he really doesn't "look" presidential. He looks more like a dock-worker. However, if the election looks close in November I'll vote for Obama over mccain.
"With all respect to Jack — and he’s my dear friend..".
I despise practitioneers of congressional etiquette, and they ALL do it. In this day and age, any democrat who refers to a republican as "my friend", or "my esteemed colleage", or some such other shit should be forced to patrol Sadr City alone.
Lieberman looks and sounds a lot like William "The Bloody" Kristol.
48 pissedcanuck Says: ...kosher pig.
Is a kosher pig one who can eat himself?
Little Joe never once gave it away
Everybody had to pay and pay
A hustle here and a hustle there....
Just wondering.....does Cindy McShame ever get tired of Joe and Lindsay tagging along every where they go? She can't turn around without bumping into these two clowns. Does she have to pay their way too?
More importantly, upon leaving the studio Holy Joe was heckled BIG TIME -- they were playing the clips all day yesterday on NY news radio.
Joe Lieberman is the DEFINITION OF THE WORD PUTZ, and a SCHMUCK in every sense of the word. And most of all AS PATHETIC AS IT GETS...
Dear Connecticut,
Please stop voting.
Sincerely,
America
Thread Winner!
I can't bring myself to listen to the clip of this delusional, whiny-voiced shit bag. I'm sorry, but he has to be the most pathetic looking and sounding politician in Washington.
There are plenty of other corrupt and lying sacks of shit there, but this disgusting blood-hound is the one I detest the most.
"Sunnis are trusting Maliki"??
Somehow I seriosuly doubt that. Not too long ago Sunnis lost a incredibly bloody ethnic civil war against Shiites. Bagdhad before the war/occupation a mixed Sunni/Shia city has been ethnically cleansed now predominantly Shia. Hundred thousands Sunni refugees displaced, forced from their homes, their remaining neighbourhoods sealed of by huge walls like giant prisons. I think theres still massive resentment among Sunnis against Shiites in general ("the Iranians") and especially the poor inefficient Shia-dominated government of al Maliki
I just cannot believe this guy was Al Gore's running mate.
if you re-enlist then you will be able to come home 2 months earlier, if you don't enlist
you have to stay the 15 months.
If you re-enlist you get to come home 2 months early, if you don't re-enlist then you must stay all of the 15 months.
Commentator @ 55:
Lieberman should have a heart attack when he speaks the truth.
Then we'll know when he's not lying.
Hulk @ 65:
Loserman is keeping himself closer to McSame than a piece of chewing gum to a shoe's sole. I really believe that he would be ideal as McBush's running mate and I fervently hope that he's selected as such.
I wasn't aware that Connecticut was known as a great producer of pork products, but they sure got a Blue Ribbon Grand Champion Scum Sucking Pig to represent them when they elected Joe LIEberman.
Whether or not the escalation is working was never the point. The escalation was a delay tactic until Iraq signed over their oil fields to us. Bush and Cheney are pushing hard for that to happen by the end of their term. As soon as it does, the US will claim victory and draw down. As long as the oil remains an asset of Iraq, the escalation will remain.
Joe,
Do you hear the clock ticking? Ya better. After the next election and the Democramps win more senate seats and don't need you... you WILL be history... bye bye. And McSame will dump you no matter how many blow jobs you gave him.
To be quite frank your "re-election" does not say much for the intellegence of the Ct. voters... how can so many people be so stupid.
Dr. Hussein Matt @ 2:
Amen!
It is good to hear that our surge troops are coming home.
Maybe someday the five million Iraqi refugees driven from their homes following the illegal invasion by Bush and Cheney of their country will also be able to return home, or at least those who haven't died, men, women and small children who aren't dead because of what Bush and Cheney insanely did.
Hey, maybe these five million Iraqi refugees might even find their homes intact if they ever return. Of course, whether or not their homes have electricity, running water or trash pickup might be a further hurdle they probably will face if they ever do return.
Luckily, our own soldiers will return to the U.S. and find their homes intact (hopefully, and unless from Iowa or New Orleans or maybe even California), with electricity, running water and trash pickup...but they'll also find gasoline selling for over $4.00 a gallon, rising utility bills and food prices...but at least they'll be back home...until they get called up again in "stop-loss" or some other Bush/Cheney "stay the course" gimmick and are sent back over to Iraq.
But at least they'll be back home, enjoying a well-deserved break from Bush and Cheney's insane Iraq War, unlike the five million Iraqi refugees, who will have to deal with the abomination in Iraq that Bush and Cheney caused for many years to come. Heckuva job, Bush and Cheney. Heckuva job.
Does anyone take seriously what this mushy faced loser says?
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