New Obama Ad On Energy Debunks McCain's Inaccurate Attacks
Barack Obama's campaign has released a new ad firing back at the inaccurate attack ads on his energy propsals coming from the McCain campaign. Obama's ad lays out the truth about the Bush/McCain energy policies that wouldn't produce a drop of oil for seven years and would cause even more pain to our economy, continue to break the backs of hard working Americans and of course, maintain the huge tax giveaways for big oil. The campaign also released this statement prior to the ad:
"What we need to solve our energy crisis is an honest debate about the choices before us, not more attack ads that mislead voters about the facts. There's a real choice in this election between John McCain's promise to continue the Bush approach of trying to drill our way out of our energy crisis - which even he admits won't lower prices this summer - or Barack Obama's plan to provide meaningful short-term relief for our families and to make a historic investment in alternative energy development that will create millions of new jobs, keep the cost of energy affordable and secure our energy independence once and for all," said Obama spokesman Hari Sevugan.
Who gives a shit? He voted for FISA, stabbed the 4th in the back. Fuck him and ANYONE that would vote for the traitor....
It's almost as if this America's political leadership WANTS to keep the country dependent on Oil...
hmmm.
St. Paul Scout @ 1:
So you would be more comfortable with McCain for four or eight years. Hell yes, I hate like hell that he voted for the bill, but I can't imagine myself not voting in November or voting for McCain.
Had he not voted for it, McCain and Fox new and the media in general would have accused him of being soft on terror and all that goes with that. He didn't cast the deciding vote and I take a wee bit of consolation in that. I understand everything you are feeling right now, but please try to look at the larger future picture before you say "fuck you" to people like me. Thanks
Who cares? Niether one of these men deserve our votes.
Obama's ad is inaccurate too. drilling wouldn't yield any oil for 10 years, not 7 years. God Barack, get your facts straight buddy.
St. Paul Scout@1
And vote for Mcvomit? No, fuck you loser.
Obama ad debunks McCain's inaccurate attacks?
Does anyone pay any attention to that kind of Hollywood voice-over ad? Boring, predictable crap. I know you are, but what am I...ad nauseam.
I was asleep by the third word.
pissed off patricia @ 3:
Sooo... Obama needs to act accordingly to a matter that is pleasing to FOX and the GOP?
No matter what he does, he will be defamed by FOX.
I am tired of the excuses, really...
He is not as bad as McCain, that is a given... but it is not much of an achievement really. He had to do the right thing, I am tired of the Dem candidates having to appease the extreme right wing... while at the same time taking for granted the liberal vote.
He had a choice: do the right thing and side with the liberals, or appease the conservatives. Since he is more interested in the GOP voting block, which he will never get. I say let him keep it up, and I will be staying home in November.
Honestly, telling me how bad McCain will be is starting to get a bit tiring, I know how bad he will be. I am just tired of having to vote democratic, just because. Party allegiance has brought us the clusterfucks of the 2 Bush terms and the current Pelosi et al cartel.
No thanks, I will pass...
You think voting for Obama will be different that a vote for McPimply-ass. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! We have all been had. They say you will be known by the company you keep, look who that mother fucker is standing with....
Politics as usual, folks.
greg @ 2:
No really .........
Consumerism when run on the country scale is the perfect drug dealer position. "Oh you need to do what to sell more X, oh let me update the law for you, there we go, now go sell X to all the brain washed sheelp" etc ect.
Would be interesting to line up, what actually would be different regardless of who got in, anything at all would be interesting.
The leaders of Iraq have been calling for the US to get out for a while now and that is being ignored.
Until we stand up and make politicians earn our votes we will be further enslaved by their treacherous behavior. They owe us their jobs. We do not owe them our vote. Screw 'em!
it is very important to debunk the spewage a'spewin' from the mcspew campaign.
but, BUT, i think there is a crucial flaw in one of his statements.
the inclusion that off-shore drilling/anwr drilling "wouldn’t produce a drop of oil for seven years" (or however the commercial puts it) is not the best tactic. this might lead the average consumer of news and information to conclude that if it is going to take seven years we best start drilling NOW.
i think obama should point out that until the oil cartels explore the land they already control there is no need to give them any more land.
further, we are oil junkies. we are one step away from rolling the drunk on the bench for his pocket change. drilling away at the earth only serves to delay the inevitable: it won't reduce prices (i would argue), enriches the oil cartels, puts off the hard choices we need to make now, lessens the likelihood that we will ever ween ourselves off of oil short of virtual armageddon.
really, though, is the GOP really trying to portray themselves as good for the environment? i need a smoke. oh, crap, i quit.... grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
xoites defends Constitution @ 12:
Indeed these assholes need to be reminded that they are on OUR payroll.
They want to run their own government, fine. But they should pay for it...
OT: John Thune is praising Shmobama's yea vote on FISA.
What have we wrought?
Wow, looks like the Young Republicans Pajamahadeen linked their attack machine to the C&L website today. Not that it matters, since only partisans read this site, and they're not likely to swing any independents.
Anyway, I do agree, it's a bit of a fluff ad. I think later on in the campaign they should re-tool this add to incorporate some of the things T-Boone Pickens was talking about in the link below. Specifically, the natural gas angle. True, it's not environmentally friendly, but as a stop-gap solution it makes a lot of sense. (It was also suggested as a stop-gap solution by Bill Richardson, so it's already got credibility.)
Thank you Clinton for voting no on Fisa.
Today, all those who fought and died for our freedom, died in vain.
obl has changed our country and won.
Never, ever trust these criminals.
Disband both parties.
Clinton should lead the new party for the people.
St. Paul Scout @ 1:
So, in other words, you'll take the fast death instead of the slow one. Maschoist.
Here's a new DNC ad that is PERFECT for attacking McCain on his flip-flops on when he'll end the Iraq War and start bringing troops home.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eejYoz3Nl0
A NEW party for the people could not be run by Clinton.
Where do you come up with this stuff?
So Obama lies about his stance against immunity for the telcos (and that he will support any filibuster of such a bill), ALREADY fails to uphold and defend the Constitution (kind of in the oath of office and whatnot), sides with corporate America over the netroots (let's not forget the Moveon slam, not to mention today's telco gift), guts the freaking rule of law and advances the unitary executive idea that it's legal if the President says so (the FISA bill's only requirement for telcos, for those that don't know somehow, is that they show that they acted in the belief that they were following a Presidential order), and it's all fine because Obama is just so much better than McCain on all the other issues...as far as we know...assuming he isn't going to stab us in the back again...'cause he would never do that.
And for those that think this vote doesn't matter because Obama didn't cast the deciding vote, ask yourself this, "then why did he vote "aye" on cloture and "aye" on the final bill if voting "nay" wouldn't have changed anything?" Besides, imagine the coverage he could have brought to this disaster with the media crawling all over him and McCain.
"Yes we can" just officially became "no you can't."
Who cares? We know Obama will say anything to get elected; he'll break promises when it's politically expedient. Both Obama and McCain won't take a stand on any issue. They change with the winds. Same old sh*t.
xoites defends Constitution @ 20:
Quoting Rick James: Cocaine is a hell of a drug....
Vote for Obama.
For better government.
For the Constitution.
For whatever is best for America.
17 getalife
How did Obama vote on FISA?
Just now on C-Span they concluded a debate on Electronic Data storage, so only archivist could decide which emails from Washington to delete.
publicans kept interrupting to talk about energy.
One goober tried to blame Clinton for our current energy pain.
Although if he allowed ANWAR to go forward we would be getting the oil,
It would be going on to the international market, and doubtless would hardly drop the cost of energy one iota.
And of course there's no mention of the lock publicans had on Washington for 6.5 years.
And what these idiots failed to realize, you could tell they were itching to say tree huggers oppose the drilling, but also other businesses.
Alaska for one depends a lot on the tourist business who come there to see the pristine nature. That means hotels, hotel workers, guides, camp-sites, air-liners and cruise ships all depend on Alaska staying the same.
Addiotionally you have fishermen, farmers and hunters who resist the new drilling. Fishermen and farmers are both individuals and large faceless corporations who process fish or do large-scale farming
And we would challenge, even destroy such industries for a nickel reduction in gas prices?
23 The Dude Says: xoites defends Constitution @ 20:
A NEW party for the people could not be run by Clinton.
Where do you come up with this stuff?
Quoting Rick James: Cocaine is a hell of a drug….
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And according to Eric Clapton
She don't lie...she don't lie...she don't lie, cocaine.
the dems have tacked so far to the right (center? puhlease), it is to be expected that some of the most ardent supporters and activists will either sit this election out, vote for nader, write in kucinich (or someone else) or something else other than vote for obama.
and it is the democratic party's (the politicians) fault.
they adopt conservative positions, refuse to stand up to bush, fail to shield the constitution, and are led by corporate dictates-- yet they expect the liberals to support them? quite a leap of faith.
pissed off patricia @ 3:
Patricia I would NEVER say fuck you to you. Having said that, Obama today showed that he is just like all the other politicians. He could have stood up for what is right and he FAILED. And he did it for the corporations. He voted for the corporations. As I said earlier at this point I do not believe that he would have voted against the war if he had a chance. Not after this vote. He can sit back now and say he was against the war blah blah blah but he was given a pass because he wasn’t in a position at the time. Now when the proof is in the pudding he failed us. Is there really any difference between him and McCain? Not today.
pissed off patricia says, "So you would be more comfortable with McCain for four or eight years. Hell yes, I hate like hell that he voted for the bill, but I can’t imagine myself not voting in November or voting for McCain. "
Both poltical parties are corrupt as hell. Republicans are worse, but so what? To I befriend the bank robber because the alternative is the murderer?
I've never missed an electon since I began voting in 1977. I voted for Nader in 2000 (probably a mistake, but Gore took my state, California, so it didn't matter). I voted for Kerry in 2004. I protested the "Israeli lobby candidate," Diane Feinstein, by not voting for her in 2006.
Now, I have decided that for the first time, I will not vote in 2008. F the country.
If Barrack Obama thinks he has my vote locked up, f-him. If McCain becomes president, all the better. When America sinks to rock bottom, only then will we really "throw the bums out" and elect officials who go to Washington to represent us.
Look at Pelosi? Accused by the right of being a San Francisco liberal? Give me a break. She's as liberal as bin Laden is a disco queen. Feinstein? About as left as my poop smells like roses. Clinton? Obama? Corporate candidates. Clinton voted against the FISA bill because she had nothing to lose. If she had won the primaries, she would have voted for it. Obama voted for it because he thinks he has the left locked up and wants to court the right for the general election.
Well f-him. Any politician who thinks he has my vote locked up can S-M-D. And if that means we get another 4 years of hell and more conservatives on the Supreme Court, so be it.
I will not vote for the lesser of two evils anymore.
I'm so sick of this shit that I have nothing more to say than bring it on. When the U.S. hits rock bottom, then maybe the whole selfish, self-centered lot will finally change. Until then, deal with it.
So much animosity here.
Your elected representitives and their funders (lobbyists) are enjoying a great time this evening in Washington, D.C.
Why so much animosity here?
Perhaps you believe in the system?
And believe the American People can right the system?
Hey, best wishes.
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I am inclined to agree with you, Thomas Stone.
Time to stop pretending we matter to the politicians and find ways to stiffle their agenda.
I am so sick of this shit. Fuck them. I could just cry. Now what?
I'm so disappointed in Obama now, I could care less what he thinks about energy independence.
I'm starting to have evil thoughts. Maybe I wish McCain does win and the Repub brand will be completely and absolutely destroyed, and Obama and the wishy-washy centrist Demos will have their asses handed to them for taking the Progressive vote for granted. Let the Corporations totally dismantle what America was and could have been. Then the citizens would revolt or have a general strike and the lame-ass politicians would be begging for forgiveness.
Oh yeah, I was just spinning nasty thought. I'll probably still vote Demo in the Fall. I'll just have to generate my own hope I guess.
Maybe this is why Hillary Clinton is holding on to those delegates. Maybe we will have a "really" interesting convention afterall. Obama voting yes on FISA was a real bad move on his part and that cakewalk to the Presidency probably just got a little bit more difficult.
getalife @ 17:
Amen Brotha!
29 Thomas Stone
(Pelosi)'s as liberal as bin Laden is a disco queen.
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How does bin Laden look in glitter hot pants and flourescent tube tops?
33 (_(_) Says:
"I am so sick of this shit. Fuck them. I could just cry. Now what?"
In th ewords of Mother Jones, "Don't mourn. Organize!"
We are the most unorganized pissed off people i have ever encountered.
I read over at BuzzFlash that Congress has a 9% approval rating, according to Rasmussen Polling. The lowest approval rating for Congress in modern polling.
And I can see the Demos are not happy with the Democratic majority.
pissed off patricia @ 3:
What she said -
xoites defends Constitution @ 38:
Oh no. We organized pretty well for Obama but he shit on us. He figures he has us locked up but you know what. Just like Tommy Stone I say FUCK YOU Obama. You just bet the farm on the right wing vote. See what it gets you asshole.
Thomas Stone - I cast my first vote in 1968, another very bad year in politics and I'm leaning toward a no vote this year for the first time since 68. I'm really ticked off about that and at my Democratic Party.
getalife @ 17:
You're high.
I also thought that Pelosi had a plan but now I have to think that her plan is money in her pocket. Just like Steny (What a fucked up name that is), she cares more about the money. These people do not care about THE PEOPLE. I feel no better than a black person voting Republican at this point.
41 Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo Says: xoites defends Constitution @ 38:
33 (_(_) Says:
“I am so sick of this shit. Fuck them. I could just cry. Now what?”
In th ewords of Mother Jones, “Don’t mourn. Organize!”
We are the most unorganized pissed off people i have ever encountered.
Oh no. We organized pretty well for Obama but he shit on us. He figures he has us locked up but you know what. Just like Tommy Stone I say FUCK YOU Obama. You just bet the farm on the right wing vote. See what it gets you asshole.
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We organized quite well for Obama and Clinton. We organized well for the Democrats who went to Congress in 2006.
What we have not managed to do is organize for us.
Worse and Worser
sundog @ 39:
wow that low is that congress as whole or the republican members
Who gives a shit about oil at this point? Go ahead and start lobbing nukes at Iran. I couldn't care less. Let's just let the corporations pick the President. I couldn't care less about that either. All the people who scraped together thir $25, $35, $85 for Obama were shit on today. Maybe he should have taken the public money for his campaign. I hope he doesn't raise another nickel.
Obama drama pajamahadeen are Rush-ing out to vent fake spleen.
To fog blog comments with droll smoke screen.
Obama drama pajamahadeen, so eager to be heard and seen,
See how they pirouette and preen.
Whoa! This place is a mess of rotten tomatoes and they all seem to have been thrown my way.
I'm as pissed, disappointed, let down and upset over what happened today as anyone can be. But I'm not willing to just throw in the towel and hand our country over to McCain so he can have his war in Iran. I just can't do that. Throw all the tomatoes you like, I can take it. I just can't take four more years of bush/McCain.
xoites defends Constitution @ 45:
The problem was that all along we have been told: vote Democrat, vote Dem, or the GOP wins!!!
Which is the same shit that the GOP pulls: vote Republican, vote GOP, or the terrorist win!!!!
Neither party has an actual programme to offer the people other than how bad the alternative is. When you are trying to sell dog vomit as food, I guess it makes sense that your only recourse is to point out how bad dog shit is.
xoites defends Constitution @ 45:
They were suppose to be for us. We were told they were going to work for us. At least I know I will have a little more cash to spend on myself.
Hope and Change!
Well, as it turns out, he's the one who appears to have Changed and left me with the Hope he will be challenged at the convention.
constituent @ 47:
That's 9% for Congress as a whole, with only 13% Demos giving Congress the thumbs up.
Wow!!!! McInsane only voted WITH Bush 95% of the time. He's an independent thinker alright.
pissed off patricia @ 50:
The attacks are not directed personally towards you. Obama needs to be held responsible for his actions, period.
Just because he is not as awful as McCain and has a winning smile doesn't cut it anymore. He simply has no excuse for his vote, and if we try to excuse that because he "is one of us" then we are no better than the conservatives... and we will be waling the same path of ruin. Just as Pelosi and Reed have illustrated, they got their majorities using the same premises. And look where it has gotten us: nowhere.
Either we do it right, or we don't do it at all... because if we don't do it right, it really doesn't matter in the long run.
Why doesn't every ad show the Bush/McCain hug?
Fuck, all you have to do is run that for 30 seconds with no sound, and the election is over.
pissed off patricia @ 50:
The tomatoes are not at you. This is nothing more than being totally let down and shown that they (the politicians) are all the same. Patricia, it is time to hit the beach and forget about these jokers (the politicians). They (the politicians) are all the exact same.
So how is the guy from Harvard going to save us from the guy from Yale again?
Jesus Hussein Christ @ 57:
And have another one with Bush playing guitar and eating cake with McCain while New Orleans drowned.
But leave it to the dems to be on the defensive after 8 years of this clusterfuck...
Fuck I am writing in my dog at this rate... I am sure he would do a much better job.
"Had he not voted for it, McCain and Fox new and the media in general would have accused him of being soft on terror and all that goes with that. He didn’t cast the deciding vote and I take a wee bit of consolation in that. I understand everything you are feeling right now, but please try to look at the larger future picture before you say “fuck you” to people like me. Thanks"
What will Fox News say about expanded or, god forbid, universal healthcare? Strong environmental legislation? A, at least partial, reversal of the failed and horribly named “free trade” deals? A cutting of military funding, over a TRILLION a year now all things considered (which could never happen in a functioning democracy)?
Let’s all run from our ideals because millionare pundits, who could care less about us and whose interests are opposite of ours, on a right wing news channel disagrees. Obviously the intelligent and articulate Obama couldn’t counter what Fox freaking News, who has declined in power considerably along with the right wing, says.
My god, defending the Democratic Party just goes to show that the right doesn’t have a monopoly on defending elites who could care less about them, don’t think their opinion matters and have contempt for democracy. The left was supposed to support Clinton when he passed NAFTA, supported the Telecommunications Bill, gutted all the governmental social services (and gladly announced the end of “big government”, ie government who had the odd idea of working on behalf of the country and not just economic elites), amongst other horrors. The left has supposed to look away as the “pro-labor” corporate party the Democrats continued to support the failed “free trade” policies, don’t have universal healthcare on its platform even though the vast majority of the country (even outside the party) supports it, continues to expand our TRIOLLION dollar military budget, amongst other things. How much are you willing to let go of your ideals just to make sure the lesser of two evils doesn’t get in office? My god, the liberals in the US are at the point now that they’re making excuses for policies that would be the far right wing in most every other industrialized country.
There are different kinds of liberals, leftists and the like and the less of two evil strategy has sold the house. It might be an overused example, but Hitler came to power as much as anything because of the weakness of the Social Democrats in Germany. When Hitler was gaining more power some within the “pro-labor” Social Democratic Party mildly supported him as a way to bring order. Others made compromise after compromise, at times while attacking the leftist elements within the party (keep in mind this is the party that killed Rosa Luxemburg and sided with the right wing after the revolution following WWI). Hitler would never have come into power if the Social Democrats had any guts and fought. Same situation here, and there is no defense for it.
I ask again, at what point would you say enough is enough?
aah your upset now and rightly so, but youll put a closepin on your nose to keep from breating the stink and vote for obummer, last time i did that was voteing for kerry, not interested in covering my nostrils again, i been right on obama from the start, been villified on here for it! the nice thing is i can say i told yah so , you see unlike most here i listened to every speach obama made took him at his word, a vote for mes a vote for nothing but more of what you had!
the wingnuts always point out that low approval rating of Congress, but they don't take into account that there are those Republicans who will NEVER approve of a Democratic-majority Congress anyway and that there are liberals and progressives who are disgusted with the Democrats caving in and the Democratic leadership's complicity in the crimes of the Republicans...
"they are all the same"
I think the first mistake everyone made with Obama was turning him into SuperMan.
He's not. He's a kindhearted, intelligent, professional, likeable politician, who happens to also be one of the most honorable people we could vote for in - well my - lifetime.
But he is not, and never was, the progressive superman so many people wanted him to be. It was so much projection, that his "Obamaniacs" or whatever the right calls them, were inevitably going to throw to the wolves the moment he did something they didn't agree with.
This has infinitely more to say about the hardcore supporters, than it does Obama.
Captain Obama’s Bitter Half Husein Kangaroo @ 58:
I'll be hitting the beach about two tomorrow afternoon and I'm staying until next Friday. No computer will enter my life during that time. I'll get as little news as possible and read books to my hearts content. Every night at five I will have a cocktail for everyone at C&L.
I cannot be convinced that Obama an McCain are the same, so I'll just walk away slowly and see you guys in a week or so.
Isn't This Obama ad too harsh on McCain? I mean Obama has said all along he wants to compromise and find a way to heal the divide. How does this help that?
Obama should stick more to things that he and McCain agree on and stay away from controversy. Controversy is stirred up when he disagrees with McCain. Disagreement is no longer healthy in America. It causes division and confusion in the voters minds.
Staying away from controversy and aligning more along the Republican lines is the only way that Obama will be able to succeed as President.
pissed off patricia @ 65:
Enjoy! Thanks for your contributions.
kerplunk @ 66:
Puke.
pissed off patricia @ 65:
hum... I don't think any one made the connection that Obama and McCain are the same. That is a bit of a stretch and a giant straw man...
You can see that your argument was deeply flawed. If it were the case that Obama had to please the FAUX news pundits, why did McCain not even bother to vote? And there is a real problem, when in your push to excuse the inexcusable you use what the FAUX news pundits will say of Obama as a reasonable cause for Obama to throw liberals under the bus....
He needs to be held accountable, again... just because he does not suck as much as McCain is no excuse to skip scrutiny...
Jesus Hussein Christ @ 68:
Exactly Jesus! Is this the "Change we can believe in?"
69 The Dude
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Obama: For a change that sucks less.
Very catchy...
I screwed up when I supported Obama. I got caught up in the speeches and how he could fill a stadium. I hope and pray Clinton can find a way. I promise never ever to lose faith in her again. As for Obama and his energy policy, I could care less.
Clinton? Putting your faith in these politicians is a mistake.
Liberal Stu @ 72:
So, you think that the best way of leaving the boiling water in the pot is to jump into the fire underneath....
Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick! No wonder we are so fucking screwed...
pissed off patricia @ 65:
I still love you, patricia.
But I don't think I can love Obama in the same way anymore. Sure McCain's a windbag and is falling all over self literally, and Obama is much more inspirational and presidential, but Obama is killing me softly with his song and dance and I wish he'd stop.
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As an aside, I wish my Senator Nelson of sunny Florida would resign. With Demos like him, who needs Repubs. Nelson votes with Bush on the big emotional bills, like Iraq, FISA, free trade stuff, anti gay marriage, etc. People in Florida loved him when took on the Insurance companies after Hurricane Andrew, but he's slowly become a Blue Dog Demo when it comes to Corporations. (He at least pushes a better Environmental vote.) But Nelson's not made of teflon anymore on this part of the beach since he voted for the war approbations and still couldn't stop the massive layoffs coming at the Kennedy Space Center. KSC, with all that brain power, could become a wind and solar industrial complex. But nooooo, we got to make them bombs and bullets because those Senators are sooooo patriotic.
Sen. Nelson (FL) just disappoints.
Write in Kucinich.
What's the cooling-off period for voting for Obama. I want my vote back.
Walter Sobcek @ 77:
The cooling off period was last night. Why do you think he felt so comfortable screwing you today?
Oh wait. I didn't vote for the schmuck in the first place.
I Miss Edwards.
Thomas Stone @ 29:
So you're a complete fucking retard. Have a nice day.
Walter Sobcek @ 79:
I didn't vote for the schmuck in the first place. I didn't vote for the schmuck in the first place. I didn't vote for the schmuck in the first place. Well woopdy doo
The Dude @ 51:
The former, in your current two-party system, is the sad truth. If you claim otherwise, you're wallowing in denial.
Guess you did, Capt. But hey, look at this:
(5) COVERED CIVIL ACTION- The term `covered civil action' means a civil action filed in a Federal or State court that--
`(A) alleges that an electronic communication service provider furnished assistance to an element of the intelligence community; and
`(B) seeks monetary or other relief from the electronic communication service provider related to the provision of such assistance.
Guess one might consider a motion to change venue to Canada (or Mexico). Maybe dismiss the suit and refile.
I'm just surprised that so many are surprised. It's time to take a deep breath and realize that the media and the DNC sold you a bogus and defective product and they did that because they both secretly hate all things Clinton. They knew that Hillary would be a lot more trouble for them because she thinks for herself and she is far more liberal than Obama or Bill Clinton will ever be. We got screwed and many of us knew it was coming.
....and you never told us Bluesage.
I guess the silver lining is I won't need to go out and vote in November. Tweedle dee or tweedle dum.
Al Hidalgo @ 76:
Nope, gonna write in Dennis Leary/Louis Black.
wanna bet by the end of summer obama's support offshore/anwr drilling.
This nightmare is turning into a "FREEKING NIGHTMARE".!
But it's either this or Dick and George start ww3 by the end of Dec. You know "those nicotine addicted Iranians!!!!
This nightmare is turning into a “FREEKING NIGHTMARE”.!
But it’s either this or Dick and George start ww3 by the end of Dec. You know “those nicotine addicted Iranians!!!!
OOOPS! End of SEPT......!
Walter Sobcek
Of course I told you and every time I did I was called awful names and accused of being a troll but I kept right on saying it. Today the big story is that he and his family went on Access Hollywood on July 4th for his daughters birthday but now he thinks that was a mistake because they asked his girls questions and they answered them. Well, Duh! The girls were miked up - what did he think was going to happen? Just a few months ago he was going to fillibuster any bill that gave immunity to the telecoms. Today he voted for the bill. He is not ready to be president until he knows what to do without questioning after the fact and does what he says he will do.
Sen Obama's energy plan will surely change. He is the Candidate of Change.
And who cares what FOX news might say about his votes, if he was to vote they way he led people to believe he would?
We were steered wrong in 2006 and we are being steered wrong again with "the American Idol" candidate of change.
The corporation does indeed rule.
The Dude @ 69:
The Dude abides...again.
Of Course Obama caved on FISA, shitting on the people who got him the nomination knowing they'll vote for him instead of any republican, and in turn picking up a couple votes right of center was a win-win strategy for him. A little lost privacy and freedom is nothing compared to a winning election strategy.
You'd think after 8 years of bush the progressives would figure out how to stop screwing themselves over...but no, now, here I am, the most important election in a generation...and if you're an American who values privacy, freedom and liberty...there is no candidate to vote for.
I'll be without representation for another 8 years, woot.
"The former, in your current two-party system, is the sad truth. If you claim otherwise, you’re wallowing in denial."
No, you're too afraid to do anything other than vote, for a party that has done nothing but screw you for decades. Parties in other countries (who have functioning democracies) come and go, because people in other countries realize that democracy means being involved directly in government and electing people from their ranks. Countries like ours honeslty resemble Mexico, where a single party dominated for decades, more than the functioning democracies we see in South America. We sit on our ass, vote for elites and don't do anything ourselves while claiming that anyone who does so is fighting a losing battle. It's an excuse to be lazy and have no responsibility to change the situation.
If you want change to happen it might mean you have to act outside the two parties and you have to be personally engaged in that change. It doesn't happen over night, there will be loses before there are wins, costs before you see too many benefits, but it can change. It won't ever if you support parties who give two craps about you and make excuses to do nothing but accept it as set in stone.
Yes, Hillary would save us!
Please....
I'm greatly disturbed by Obama and have been for two weeks now but let's not elevate anybody else in comparison to his fuck-up today. I'm not sure about you but if I was running a campaign and it went $1000.00 dollars into debt I personally would have to call it off. Of course, I don't have Clinton kind of money but I think you can see where I'm going with this. Nobody's perfect, we're just fucked!
Johnny2Bad @ 94:
... that's like your opinion man ;-)
bilhelm-ED-X @ 97:
No kidding, it just shows how little attention people are paying. Just because Obama is sucking on this one, it doesn't meant that Hillary is any better all of the sudden.
Obama on Coal: “We could be investing in renewable sources of energy, and in clean coal technology, and creating up to 5 million new green jobs in the bargain, including new clean coal jobs.”
-The reality is that Clean coal is a bamboozle. and the Obama campaign is overloaded with former ethanol lobbyists.
Obama on Corn Ethanol: "...it ultimately helps our national security, because right now we’re sending billions of dollars to some of the most hostile nations on earth."
-But "gasohol is so inefficient, that producing ethanol may actually be a net destroyer of energy." (James Brovard) and keeps ADM in big subsidy dollars that Obama still supports.
Obama on Nuclear Power: "I don't think nuclear power is necessarily our best option. It has to be part of our energy mix."
-But Exelon Corporation, “the nation’s leading nuclear-power-plant operator” is Barack Obama’s “fourth largest patron.” “Obama helped to vote down an amendment that would have killed vast loan guarantees for power-plant operators”. Harper's
Can we do better than this?
Yes We Can.
G String @ 96:
My choice of words was deliberate; I said "your current two-party system" because I'm an citizen of a country that uses a parliamentary system.
G String @ 96:
And staying home/voting third party/writing in Nader isn't? Doing any of those isn't going to restore any functionality to your democracy either, but it'll certainly make you feel superior, and I suspect that's all you're looking for.
I have no illusions that Hillary would be our saviour but she has a long history of working for children and for health care and for being an independent thinker. I very much wanted Edwards to be at the top of our ticket but the media early on decided to make him the invisible man. I liked his populist message and I trusted him to stay true to his word. And I really liked the idea of Elizabeth as our very smart First Lady but thanks to the media it was not to be. When it came down to Obama and Clinton I was sure that she would be the better nominee and I still believe that she would be the better nominee. I do not trust Obama to do the right thing for the American people and he proved that again today.
Sorry Obama, your flip flop is showing. Your no different than all of the other agents of change that have come and gone. Your not the leader with the courage of his convictions I thought you were. Yes, today is the day that America died 7/9/2008 and in doing so fascism is alive and well in these Untied States.
obama = mabus (obaMABUSh) = third antichrist
http://www.crystalinks.com/mabus.html
Can we pre-emptively impeach Obama and get Dennis back on the ticket? lol
Here's the bigger picture. BushCo has installed hundreds of Neocons throughout our government, and their removal should be your No.1 concern.
I don't know if Obama will clear them all out, but I know sure as hell McCain will not. Obama gets my support, my money, and my vote simply because he's a Democrat. So he's not the real deal? He's the ONLY deal.
Look, the Dems let Ronnie Rayguns go for treason.(punishable by death) You want vindication, good luck! I just want my country back
Obama is now in the process of changing his stance on abortion. Women get pregnant, women can decide for themselves, PERIOD. We have been duped. Anyone that thinks I am some sort of troll can SMD.
Obama supports the war, just watch, he really does. He is willing to sabre rattle on Iran just like any good riech-winger. He is willing to shit on the constitution (FISA vote), will suck up to the christian right (changing his abortion stand) and piss all over the progressives on this blog thinking we are all too stupid to vote for someone else. Progressives have no candidate that truly represents our views, let alone stand up for them.......
Only one problem: his plan calls for Ethanol, and "i you fill up with ethanol, every time you pull that SUV into the gas station and pump 22 gallons, you starve a poor person for six months."
*it takes 2.4 pounds of corn a day to feed a hungry person
*it takes 22 pounds of corn to make one gallon of ethanol
*there are 42 gallons of refined gas in one barrel of oil
Source: http://www.enn.com/top_stories/commentary/37605
Please, Senator Obama. Stop supporting corn ethanol... biofuels are supported by the oil industry. Why do you think British Petroleum gave the UC System a $500 million dollar grant to study biofuels, not electric cars? It is time that a president does not give in to big oil. I think that is we use large scale biofuels, it will be a huge mistake. It is time to for the EV to come back!
"video is no longer available" - sorry I'm late to the party... does anyone have a direct link to that video? Thanks -
p.s. never mind - the embedded video wouldn't play on main C&L page, but now it plays on this 'comments' page. Weird, why does it do that?
Obama ads are so funny now. Obama will do this and he'll do that. Baaaahaaaaahaaahaaa. You mean unless President George Walker Bush says that high gas prices are vital to homeland security then Obama will vote to mandate higher gas prices. Face it, Obama has been outsmarted every step of the way by George Walker Bush.
You want to vote for someone dumber than President George Walker Bush the lowest polled President in the history of the United States !!!!!!!!!
Not with my vote you don't !
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