Blue America says Thanks to Dems that stood up for the Constitution: New Barrow ads
By John Amato Wednesday Jul 09, 2008 4:00pmThe Blue America PAC has been striking hard against Blue Dogs, Hoyer and Congress in general for abandoning the rule of law and allowing retroactive immunity for the Telecoms. You've donated and we have responded. As part of our efforts we've also decided to donate money to twelve different Democratic leaders, a thousand dollars each to show that good behavior also is worthy of support too. Here's the list:
Chris Dodd (CT)
Russ Feingold (WI)
Tom Allen (ME)
Tom Udall (NM)
Carol Shea-Porter (NH)
Doug Tudor (FL)
Dennis Shulman (NJ)
Andrew Rice (OK)
Rick Noriega (TX)
Darcy Burner (WA)
Jim Himes (CT)
Jon Tester (MT)
You can read a list of all their very good quotes here. Thank you all!
We've also started running ads against Georgia's John Barrow.
Today the first of Blue America's ads rolls out in Georgia's 12th congressional district where the Democrat who votes most frequently with George Bush on substantive matters, slippery Athens Blue Dog John Barrow, faces state Senator Regina Thomas. The two couldn't be more different. Barrow gobbles up special interests money and votes for... special interests...
And here's more from SavannhaNow: Barrow's re-election no shoo-in...
She has a tough fight ahead of her, but Go Regina...(see ad below the fold)
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I thought Boxer and Clinton voted against the immunity too. Am I wrong?
I noticed you left out Hillary Clinton from the list, Clinton voted no on the FISA issue where Obama voted for Bush.
I noticed you left out Hillary Clinton from the list, Clinton voted no on the FISA issue where Obama voted for Bush.
I think the list is of those who voted no and are up for re-election. My first clue was that 26 democratic senators voted against it and the list has only 12, of which I know that atleast 2 are up for re-election.
Just a guess.
We need to totally back Blue America team. This is the way to get the bad eggs out.
carol @ 3:
Good point, but I think she did that to make Obama look worse than he already does, making her the saviorette after Obama beats himself, and McCain wins. Not what I want but his slippery slide to the right is going to kill him.
The list is not the senators who voted no, nor is it the list of those up for re-election. It is a list of the people who Blue America thought led the fight against FISA.
By the way, Feingold, who is not up for re-election, redirected his check to the Patriot Corps.
It's good to see Jon Tester getting the props he deserves.
Can we get an open thread? The spineless Congressman Conyers (d) just let KKKarl off the hook again by giving him a five day extension to testify. When will they hold these people accountable? I am again ashamed to be a Democrat.
Oh THAT'S logical...It's all about Hillary's diabolical manipulations and how Obama has to counter her to save America. Besides, Obama hasn't been burning bridges and throwing out enough Sister Soulja moments in the last few weeks on his own without having America's "barrier to change" get the last jab in....
Leadership @ 6:
“Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.” - Ben Franklin
To be fair you should post the Reich Wingers who opposed the FISA bill.
Old Billy Hussein @ 7:
Hehe, guess I need to edumacate my guesses a little more. :)
Hillary voted against it, why isn't she on the list?
Bush to Senate: "Heck of a job, Brown Nosers!"
Time&Again @ 12:
ok, here is the list of Republicans who voted 'nay':
_________
To continue to be fair(ish) I'll even post the ones who didn't vote for it:
McCain (R-AZ), Not Voting
Sessions (R-AL), Not Voting
There you have it. All information gotten from www.senate.gov
The link to the John Barrow commercial is not working. I would be very curious to see the difference in Barrow's record since he moved to Savannah. I was in Athens when he was there, but being in college wasn't that concerned at the time. Athens is so much more liberal than Savannah, so I wonder what kind of difference that made...
Leadership @ 6:
yes, it's all Clinton's fault. Blame Clinton.
Amazing.
Rehen @ 10:
Obama is on my poopy list right now.
Clinton has been on my poopy list since 2002.
I agree with another poster, since Hillary Clinton voted against the bill and the slippery sliding flip flopper obama voted for it, the good old boys didn't mention her. This is they way they have been since the day she declared for the nomination. They stuck their head up obama's butt and enjoyed the fumes while they slurred and flamed Hillary.
BUT WE KNOW WE REMEMBER AND WE ARE DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
Will Conyers give rove another 17 hour extention on July 15th to give him moe time to come in?
I could care less about the Clinton-supporter-vs-Obama-supporter ridiculousness, but I do have to say:
The next time some talking head calls Obama the "most liberal senator," I would like someone to walk up, smack him or hear in the back of the head, and say "Like hell he is. One word: FISA."
Doesn't mean I'm not voting for him, but the Democrats in congress who actually did the right thing deserve some love for that stand against police state encroachment.
Let's have a good laugh.
And go back to the barbeque.
Things are fine here in the U.S.
My deck party is great. Grilled fish, salad, there' s a chipmunk, what could be better?
Things are fine. Why fucking complain?
Last evening, late, I received an email from FireDogLake informing me that the ACLU
was going to immediately, "after the ink dries on the pen used by bush to sign the
new FISA law, file a lawsuit and take it to the Supreme Court on the grounds that
the FISA Bill was unconstitutional. Hope some of you received also inamsuch as
FireDogLake was asking me to sign a petition..and the names of persons signing is
to appear in a national syndicated newspaper soon.
I guess my question is: Since bush has signed(earlier today) has the ACLU filed
a case w/the S/C and if not, when will that action occur?
whoo-hoo! Andrew Rice!
Hillary took into account political realities when she gave Bush the authorization to go to war. I also believe it was a big mistake. But, JRs popularity was over 80% and it would have been a real threat for her to look weak on national security with her reelection on the horizon.
The thing about Obama is that he used this vote to smack Hillary during the entire primary season with the promise that he was never going to put politics before principle. It was a new day of change and he was going to stand for something beyond politics.
Obama should be on your "S" list for a long time...You've been had.
Leadership @ 19:
Jimmi the Grey @ 16:
To continue:
Republicans who voted 'nay' on FISA in the House of Rep's:
Johnson (IL)
_______
House Republicans who did not vote for it: (read "didn't vote")
Brown-Waite, Ginny
Cannon
Gilchrest
Gohmert
Jones (NC)
Paul (this one really surprised me...isn't he supposed to be all about the constitution?!?)
Peterson (PA)
Reynolds
Tiahrt
Weller
Information from www.clerk.house.gov
Looks like we got 1 out of both branches of Congress.
Hope that helps you some T&A
Marge @ 20,
Let it go! Your obsession with Hillary, is really not healthy.
Maybe if Hillary had shown up to filibuster this during the primaries (with Dodd & Feingold) when she had the national spotlight, she mignt be the nominee today.
But she did nothing really. Which was her typical "over-cautious" response to evrything, until she realized she was going down. Then she became abusive.
For DLC Hillary, she was always a day late and a dollar short. That's what happen's when you let corporate assholes like Mark Penn tell you what to do.
You also left out Ron Wyden. It isn't likely that he is going to ever lose the election for senator from Oregon. But Jeff Merkley is running against Gordon Smith who voted to spy on Americans. We can't afford to let the bastards that voted to allow the breaking of the law. Let's consider helping those that can defeat the scumbags, rather than give money to those that just did as their oath of office required.
bill @21,
John Conyers: "If I drop my pants and bend over my desk, will you please, please, please come and see me Mr. Rove sir please?"
When we re-draw Michigan's congressional district's, I hope they eliminate this assholes seat! I am embarrassed to say he comes from my home state. What a gutless POS!
The key is to look at the cloture vote in the Senate. Only 15 senators voted against it. Harry Reid predictably and I'm sorry to say Tester voted for it. It is hypocrisy to vote against the final bill after enabling the process that moved it forward. Contrast the two votes and find the hypocrites.
lazymechanic @ 9:
Forget about John Conyers. He doesn’t really give a shit about justice. Move on to doing something useful like “electing more and better Democrats”. This current crop of Democrats are lying to us.They are trying to appear to care about Democratic Principles while instead supporting the Republicans in carrying out the Republican Agenda. They simply try to “appease” the Democratic Voters.
Quit giving any credence to what John Conyers says. What he does is in direct opposition to Democratic Principles. There are a lot of Democrats who do the same thing … over and over. Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Steny Hoyer do the same things. These are the Democratic “Leaders”. They do no respect Democratic Voters. They can no longer be trusted. Their word is not trustworthy.
Here's a link to the roll for those that are interested. Find the movie "Bringing Down a Dictator" and show it to everyone you know. This movie portrays the only way we as a people have a chance to make any real change in Washington. God bless all of you.
Has anybody found a link to George W's signing statements?
As someone who lived in Athens, Ga. for 4 years, I feel like I need to partially defend John Barrow. Barrow was the victim of an ugly gerrymander by the Georgia Republicans who control the state government. Even though he was from Athens and lived in the city for many many years serving in the local government. Shortly after his election his district was gerrymandered to include a significant part of the state that was leaned heavily Republican. By altering his voting record, which had been very liberal when he was in Athens, to fit with his new contingency, he was able to narrowly win reelection in 2006.
Diane Feinstein has been a real disappointment. I wrote her to ask to support Bush's impeachment. She replied that impeachment would be "divisive."
deniz @ 1:
Yes. Apparently C&L has a selective memory.
How about a up-yours to Obama post.
Oooo probably not...
Jimmi the Grey @ 27:
Remember carrots and sticks. We got to do more than fist-bump with the guys who actually do their jobs and protect the constitution. Honestly, its not enough to support "the good guys" with money. I have a feeling the Dems know exactly what they're doing. They know we, "the base," are stupid and we'll vote Democrat no matter what they do because we can't bring ourselves to vote Republican.
Ocasionally this bunch of small "d" democrats will vote one way or another because they know we're watching and it confuses our tinny little minds. So Clinton votes against immunity this time and Obama votes for it. Wow, so good. Then why did Obama vote against it last time it was up for voting and the Hill dog didn't even bother to show up?
I tell ya'll what children: We liberals have to work on:
1- Carrots: We got to give the cash to guys who consistently defend us. I'm talking about Chris Dodd. I'm talking about Dennis Kucinich. Quit your day dreaming about Hillary. Quit your wet dreaming about Obama. These are small "d" democrats the both of them.
2- Sticks: We got to make some one pay!!!! We can't make Obama pay because electing John Mccain would be like the entire nation drinking poison hoping that Obama will die. But we can do this against Pelosi. We got to make sure she loses her seat. We got to start giving money to the republican who will challenge her.
carol @ 3:
Paleeze. The cloture vote was the real vote...She (and Obama) were AWOL.
Crooks and liars.
Isn't it convenient that the Democrats actively expressed defiance up until after their successful primaries which pretty much ensures their reelection. They must really believe the people are powerless. There needs to be a strong message sent to the Democratic Party and I would begin by ensuring a national effort to support a third party candidate in Steny Hoyer's district. Hoyer whipped the FISA bill through the House Of Representatives and must be targeted. I don't care if by supporting a third party candidate the Republican is elected because it will send a shock wave through the party. The ultimate wake up call.
John Barrow has never been a liberal even when he lived in Athens. He votes with the Republicans as much now as he did back in 2004. Yes, things are now tougher for him in the district but they should not be in DC. I'll vote for Thomas on Tuesday. BUT, I fear that if she should pull off a miracle and beats Barrow this seat goes back to the super far right CONservatives. Barrow barely hung on in 2006. 70% of the Democratic voters are black but 55% of the CONservative district is white. Even if blacks in the district come out in huge numbers come November it may not be enough. Oh yeah, who has Obama backed? Barrow.
I love the telecoms!!! (for anyone from that quarter who may be on monitoring duty)
I guess it's a good thing Jesse Jackson was overheard wanting to "cut Obama's nuts off" for his stand with the rightwingers faith-based position or the tv talking heads might have to talk about his FISA vote for George Bush. How do we like the 'Change' so far? Leaves me 'Hoping' for a challenge at the convention.
"We should say to all of those senators who voted for this law...You are selling out the constitution." -Thom Hartmann
I don't believe Blue America has an endless supply of cash, especially considering they are also taking out ads. The ones that get the cash are the ones that continuously stand up and represent us. It would be great if we could award all those that voted the left (couldn't bring myself to say "right") way on FISA, but that's a little unrealistic. My senator is Boxer, and as much as I appreciate her, she'll just have to wait. Plus, it feels just a little weird paying our leaders to do the right thing, but...
If you want more of our leaders acknowledged, get over to Blue America and refresh the coffers.
Don't forget Jeff Bingaman from New Mexico.
This is commendable and needs to be done, but what about us folks who are flat-ass dead broke and unemployed? Since normal voting no longer works (see: 2006 and 'off the table') and the only alternative is voting with dollars, those with no dollars have no voice!
lazymechanic @ 9:
Among everything else this damn administration is destroying , they're also dismantling the Justice system. Look at the message this sends to our justice system. Until the doughboy turdblossum is dragged by his feet and forced to sit in front of Congress, all Americans should refuse to show up in court. "I'm not coming until our justice system is restored". If anyone needs a volunteer to help escort Rove to that basement in Washington, just let me know but I might try to get a few cheap shots and kicks in on the way.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0u6lCBnRoHQ
Ahhhh, there ya go! Just what the GOP loves. Democrats attacking Democrats. It will be the progressive left wing nuts who hand this election (and this nation) over to John McCain on a silver platter
This is utterly disgusting. The 4th Ammendment being tread on is beyond the pale. I don't want to hear another right wing, neocon fuck or democratic !@$#%hole who voted for this travesty on tv, congress, newspapers, magazines, etc to utter the word "patriotism". They couldn't begin to define the word.
I haven't heard anyone in the media discuss the possibility of overturning this bill due to it being unconstitutional. Does anyone know if that is something that can happen?
Leadership @ 6:
"I think she did that to make Obama look worse than he already does"
What a stupid comment! Why are second guessing hilaary Clinton's motives? Obama has dissapointed with his vote and Hillary did not, can't you live with that?
I live in Tom Allen's district. I never heard a peep out of him about FISA. Did I miss something?
Obama endorsed Barrow because Thomas can't win the district. Thomas has her detractors as well, and some of you seem to have forgotten that Georgia is a red state...
Eric Cooper @ 50:
So what we should just unconditionally support Barack because he has a 'D' next to his name? Forget that. This is ridiculous. I'd rather not show up than vote for a politician (don't fool yourself, Obama is just as much of a politician as McCain) that makes promises they don't keep. He has to earn my vote and he took a GIANT step back with this vote of his...Integrity is doing the right thing when nobody is watching, what does that say about Barack?
And the following Republicon Senators (all Republicans voted for the FISA bill) are up for reelection this year. Find their opponents and give them your support.
Lamar Alexander (TN)
Saxby Chhambliss (GA
Susan Collins (ME)
John Cornyn (TX)
Elizabeth Dole (NC)
Michael Enzi (WY)
Lindsay Graham (SC)
James Inhofe (OK)
Mitch McConnell (KY)
Gordon Smith (OR)
Ted Stevens (AK)
John Sununuu (NH)
There were 21 Democrats who voted for the FISA bill yesterday. That is a different problem--and we need to work on it. Shame on each and every one of you--especially you Obama, Webb, and Whitehouse. You all took an oath to support the constitution. You have not done that.
It's too bad that Obama has endorsed Barrow and recorded a radio ad for him. A real leader that Obama!
We as Californian's need to get rid of our right wing leaning Democratic Senators. These bitches need to go the next time that they are up for re-election. They are absolutely worthless. Did they forget that they represent the biggest democratic state in the nation? Where's the outrage from Californian's?
Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein need to join the unemployment lines when their terms are up. How could they possibly vote for this bill?
OMG, you guys at C&L managed to post only 2 articles about democrats blowing the FISA bill, and even then without pictures to keep them under the radar. Have you lost any decency? What's wrong with you? Have you become spineless hacks like the rest of the progressive blogs? Cowards!!!!!!!!!!!
Here are the Senators who value the 4th amendment enough to vote against cloture.
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Wyden (D-OR)
@58 Smokey, Boxer was against cloture and the final bill. Do your homework on Boxer, but I could not concur more with your sentiments on Feinstein.
Anyone still feel like bathering on with the usual comforting talk about Bush being a lame duck. You should hope to have such a lame duck!
Biden voted against.
I noted Hillary voted NO, but wouldn't you think that if she had won the Primary fight and she was the presumed nominee that she would have voted Yes? I sure do.
And, I bet then Obama would be a NO vote.
Getting the nomination is not a healthy situation for voting the right way! (or should I say 'left way')?
SusanD
Cornbread @ 41:
It is an overwhelming Republican area, yet an overwhelmingly poor and uneducated area as well. The key to getting rid of him and people like him is education and getting people to the polls. People there are so afraid of losing their jobs, there is no way they will chance leaving work to vote, if they are allowed to leave at all. Keep these two stats in mind for the district:
Employed: 52.7%
Unemployed: 4.3%
Will Obama stand up to anyone? Will he stand up for anything?
He's no different than any other politician -- craves the power but not the ethical duty.
I want someone to make the tough choices, to sacrifice his/her own interests for the common good.
He looks like all talk to me, well, mostly all talk. He's a disappointment and we've just started the general election.
My donations from now on are going directly to agencies and groups dealing in the causes I believe in.
Dennis Kucinich should be on the top of that list. He has fought for the Constitution every day he has served. The pelosicrats dis him and never help him in campaigning yet always expect to extract their pound of flesh for the dccc.
While I agree that we should show massive support for Congressmen who actually support and defend the Constitution, I don't agree with rewarding them for DOING THEIR JOB!
But then again, the telecomms give out a lot more money than the netroots typically can, and Congress-critters are notoriously greedy, so if we can ever raise enough to rival the corporations, maybe we can buy our democracy back?
For now I just refuse to vote for anyone who subverts the Constitution, even if they have a (D) by their name. I don't see the point in re-electing these people who don't do what they are supposed to do. Our only recourse is to run opponents against them in the primaries and quit throwing away our votes on Constitution-haters.
SusanD @ 63:
HELL NO she would not......she has a record ----- obama does not, therefore you have no clue as to what he will do next or how further RIGHT he will shift in an attempt to appeal to the VAST? middle. What horsepiss, Susan that even now as an obama apologist you have to stoop to the hypothetical to guess/presume what Hillary would do IF she was in his shoes. Good greif, if there is an opening at Fox news take it --- you have the perfect skill. I bet your good at knowing what she is thinking too. what talent
abarts @ 18:
Where have you been? Everything from MC Hammer's parachute pants to the Great Depression to 9/11 to Amy Winehouse's hair are a Clinton's fault. Wake up!
On a more serious note, Rick Noriega is running against Cornyn (asshole) in Texas. Excellent article in the Texas Monthly mag about that race. He's not in my district but I'm contributing.
Eric Cooper @ 50:
Sorry buddy, Obama just did that all by himself. Change.....sigh.
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