So much for Dobson's principles

In January, Focus on the Family's James Dobson announced, "Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances."  Dobson issued another statement a month later, insisting he would not vote for McCain in the general election and would stay home if McCain is the GOP nominee.

So much for that commitment.

“I never thought I would hear myself saying this,” Dobson said in a radio broadcast to be broadcast Monday. “… While I am not endorsing Senator John McCain, the possibility is there that I might.”

To continue … “Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family and what is best for the nation. His radical positions on life, marriage and national security force me to reevaluate the candidacy of our only other choice, John McCain.”

To be sure, Dobson opposes Obama more than he supports McCain -- a common phenomenon on the right lately -- but this certainly doesn't make Dobson look like Mr. Principled.

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I can't believe he waited this long to change his mind...and men who leave their wives because they aren't pretty anymore must meet FOF standards for family values.

Swimming upstream in the GOP cesspool is hardly a real grasp at relevance, is it Dobson?

What the hell good comes out of, if people listen to the religious voice, only listening to the fascist Christian Right? If we're to listen to the religious voice, let's listen to all religions and the irreligious. Atheists, agnostics, ignostics, Vaisnaivists, Theravadin and Ibadi Muslims have just as much right to speak as an Evangelical stormtrooper like this bastard!

Those two pandering bastards deserve each other. Talk about hypocrites two of the best at it

Joe Liebeman will convince him that it would be the right thing to do.

I've always thought you can tell a lot about a man by the enemies he makes.

Good for Obama, I think.

Funny, I oppose McCain more than I support Obama.
But isn't that how it always seems to go?

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family...."

Barack is married to a woman, has two children and has never been divorced. What is there for Dobson to dislike?

All those undecided far right-wing, radical, religeous fundementalists are now "free" to vote for McSame !!

phew!, good to get TAHT out of the way.

The Exotic, yet bitter Chico Hussein Escuela @ 9:

All those undecided far right-wing, radical, religeous fundementalists are now "free" to vote for McSame !!

phew!, good to get TAHT out of the way.

I don't see why the votes of the religious of any stripe, or the irreligious of any stripe are, well, relevant? This is a secular nation, not the Republic of Gilead, and I wish the people you mentioned would learn it.

Dale @ 8:

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family...."

Barack is married to a woman, has two children and has never been divorced. What is there for Dobson to dislike?

(whispers)

he's black.

Why doesn't he just endorse the Constitution Party candidate and be done with it? That's the only party dedicated to bringing theocracy to America.

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family and what is best for the nation. His radical positions on life, marriage and national security force me to reevaluate the candidacy of our only other choice, John McCain.”

"Hope" is a pretty radical idea for so-called Christians like Dobson. What a hypocrite!

Dale @ 8:

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family...."

Barack is married to a woman, has two children and has never been divorced. What is there for Dobson to dislike?

While McCain dumps his wife and leaves his children to marry a wealthy blonde who is 18 years his junior. Wow, those are some nice family values.

The religious right....

Schedule of new election year: Jan - July, "we don't like this candidate, he isn't one of us" "he won't make it a death penalty issue to have an abortion", yada yada yada all the BS nonsense they rail about (to sucker more money out of their followers)

August - November: "we cannot allow this anti-christ democrat to get into the white house", "our candidate is the only one who can defeat the abortionists"

Translation: Jan - July (no, I won't endorse you because you're not right wingnut crazy enough on the record to deserve six months of political contributions from my followers, I want their money as long as I can get it)
Aug - November: ok, ok....my meal ticket is at stake, you win...I'll endorse you, just don't forget who hand delivered you my legion of nitwits & nutjobs (comments from Ralph Reed, Abramoff, etc)

The Exotic, yet bitter Chico Hussein Escuela @ 11:

Dale @ 8:

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family...."

Barack is married to a woman, has two children and has never been divorced. What is there for Dobson to dislike?

(whispers)

he's black.

Oh yes. What was I thinking?

He made the same type of comment in 2006.::
"However, in 2006, Dobson said that, while "there is disillusionment out there with Republicans" and "that worries me greatly," he nonetheless suggested voters turn out and vote Republican in 2006. "My first inclination was to sit this one out," but according to The New York Times, Dobson then added that "he had changed his mind when he looked at who would become the leaders of Congressional committees if the Democrats took over."

That the guy has anyone who would listen to his hateful bigoted banter is a testimonial to just how large the Moron Factor is.

force me to reevaluate the candidacy of our only other choice, John McCain.

Because only 2 people are running for president. It's thinking and defeatist endorsements like this one that keep third parties who actually hold American values from ever being successful.

...not mentioning any specific party, just supporting the concept of the third party.

Maybe he heard God telling him Mc Cain is his best bet to bomb those infidel bastards. Or are we the infidels? Gee, I get so confused...

War is Peace...

1984...

Momma!

Dobson's only hope is for the Rapture to take him off the hook. Of course, Lieberman might want to reconsider having supported Dobson in any way, and vice versa, should that occur.

The apocalypse will not be without a touch of irony.

Wonder what skeletons Dobson has in his closet which enslave him to a candidate he can't tolerate? The mere threat imposed by Bush's illegal wiretapping of political foes and/msm journalists would have us believe that Dobson's choice in voting now for McSame stems from some personal fear of being outed about some kind of illegal/illicit activities. Wonder what it is?

As for anyone feeling compelled to vote for Grandpappy McSame, it can only be accomplished with a bag over the head, eyes closed, and another bag for them to barf in on their way out of the booth.

who the hell cares? who does charles manson endorse? why does it matter what crazy people think?

The level of involvement in religion varies in each person who chooses to be involved. This is not unlike the different levels of involvement people have with drugs. Having said that, Dobson's position in the religious community equates to your local Crack dealer's position in the world of drugs. Both of their products are poison to the mind too.

How did Americans elect a governor of it’s most populous state, and two presidents, without the press questioning any of the candidates aggressively about the Nazi links of their family patriarchs?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/20/191832/300/898/554378

....and no...I'm not referring to Arnold....the press did delve into his family's ties to Nazis, and reported frequently about what they found.

Let's face it: Every Repuke has enjoyed the capricious crime spree enabled by Bush and emboldened by a Repuke congress for 6 long years.....plenty of time to become corrupted. No doubt EVERY Republican in congress has shady at best/illegal at worst things they've engaged in "because they could". Essentially, every Repuke who is still hanging onto their old, corrupt party line is totally "complicit" and involved in shady activities and fear being outed by the GOP's illegal spy program. We've only touched the tip of a very dark, evil iceberg called the Bush Administration - with it's daily cavalcade of evil characters who lie in our faces, twist semantics, and should be in jail - right now. The election in November is not "just another election" to these enemies within - it's THE REST OF THEIR LIVES at stake here. Many of them would be in prison within a year of a Dem president and that includes people in the highest places of this current regime.

In other words McCain hasn't kissed Dobson's ass as sincerely as he would have liked him to, but it was a kiss never the less.

WOW! Now I know who to vote for because this fine, upstanding Christian leader said to do so. Now, can somebody please pass the the kool aid.

Dobson's overt "flip-flop" is obviously motivated by fear. Wonder what they have on him?

Obummer @ 22:

who the hell cares? who does charles manson endorse? why does it matter what crazy people think?

Good Point.

The whack jobs get the attention more than the sane.

An Average Joe @ 19:

Maybe he heard God telling him Mc Cain is his best bet to bomb those infidel bastards. Or are we the infidels? Gee, I get so confused...

War is Peace...

1984...

Momma!

We're infidels, they're heathens. Easy mistake. :D

The only principle this douche bag stands for is promoting ignorance among his organization's children. I couldn't care less if this jackass got hit by a bus.

His radical positions on life, marriage and national security force me to reevaluate the candidacy of our only other choice, John McCain.”

Correct me if I am wrong, but Obama is still working on his first marriage, compared to McCain who left his first once-hottie-now-handicapped wife for a beer barons' daughter that was 17 years, younger than himself. Those GOPers sure now about values!

Such wisdom from the same person who said "SpongeBob Squarepants" and "TellyTubbies" were gay cartoons! This guy is a cartoon!

Dale @ 8:

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family...."

Barack is married to a woman, has two children and has never been divorced. What is there for Dobson to dislike?

He's a Democrat. No self-loathing evangelical will ever turn his back on the Republican party. That would require some higher level of thinking.

I certainly hope that the media puts Dobson under the same microscope as Rev. Wright. (I'm sorry... I can't even type that with a straight face.)

I thought these religious right nuts wanted Armageddon to come about sooner rather than later, and I thought they believed that the Democrats would be the mostly likely to destroy the world. Or maybe it's that they think the Democrats will destroy our society, but not bring about Armageddon?

Well, I guess there may be one thing we on the progressive left agree with the religious right on... The Republicans are the most likely to bring about Armageddon.

The difference is, we don't really want to see the world go up in flames. They welcome it... Sadomasochistic bastards that they are.

Uhhh....Dobson is a sideshow, as is Obama vs. McCain, and the distraction works well for the folks who present it.

I can't wait to see Barack elected president; that way when the white race is enslaved, this cracker will finally shut the hell up.

So herr Dobson ain't again' makin' a deal with the devil to vote for the lesser of two evils in his eyes?

how ethical ........

displaced @ 37:

I can't wait to see Barack elected president; that way when the white race is enslaved, this cracker will finally shut the hell up.

13% of the population...enslave 77%? O.o Either that's a clumsy joke or somebody's not had their morning coffee.

Well he was bound to "change" his mind .... just as Hillary supporters are changing theirs.

James#35

They only wabt it on their terms...when a Republican is president

Well, everyone else on the extreme right that opposed McCain now support him, so why should Dobson be any different...?

one way or another none of the bush administration will ever see the inside of a prison, if barack obummer or mccain win the presidency they will not be held responsible for thier crimes , nancy palosi will still be doing her stick, ried and the rest will still be enabaling the bush program, we will still be an occupation in iraq after either mccain or obummer takes office , we will still be in afganistan hunting ol bin ladden, the country will still be going down the crapper with high gas and fewer jobs, you will still be wondering why you voted for a guy who doesnt intend to restore your civil rights and the constitution, so enjoy the illusion and better find a nice bridge to live under because soon you wont ba able to afford heating or air conditioning your home or pay the morgage, let alone feed your family,

displaced @ 37:

I can't wait to see Barack elected president; that way when the white race is enslaved, this cracker will finally shut the hell up.

Speaking as a cracker ..... lol, me too ;-)

For Dobson, it's all about whitey.

General_Rennenkampf @ 39:

displaced @ 37:

I can't wait to see Barack elected president; that way when the white race is enslaved, this cracker will finally shut the hell up.

13% of the population...enslave 77%? O.o Either that's a clumsy joke or somebody's not had their morning coffee.

Or too much.

And the reasoning is simple: if he doesn't endorse McCain, he becomes irrelevant, and there's nothing worse than that to Mr. Dobson.

c. atrox @ 44:

For Dobson, it's all about whitey.

Ford? I didn't know Dobson liked the Yankees.

NO, for Dobson, its's all about MONEY!

Why doesn't Dobson vote for Bob Barr? Seems a better match than McCain and that way he can keep from looking foolish. Okay, nothing can keep him from looking foolish, but still...

For all these well known preachers, it's all about the money. They sell heaven insurance and the people who can least afford it, buy it. The preachers tell the people if they do what he says they'll all go to heaven. Of course when the time comes and they die, no one can prove or disprove that the preacher was right. On and on goes the cycle and on and on, in comes the money in the collection plate.

Keep in mind, the family who brought you Blackwater is one of Dobson's biggest financial supporters. Follow the money...

Who said "Democrats fall in love; Republicans fall in line?" With the merest handful of exceptions, it's ALWAYS about the economics and about controlling the uppity lower classes and minorities; religion is just the means to that end. I knew Dobson would come around; I doubt anybody is really surprised.

To continue … “Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family and what is best for the nation.”

Is anyone ever going to inform Dobson that he doesn't know jack shit , let alone what's "best" for America and Americans ...........?

pissed off patricia @ 49:

Why doesn't Dobson vote for Bob Barr? Seems a better match than McCain and that way he can keep from looking foolish. Okay, nothing can keep him from looking foolish, but still...

For Dobson it is about access to power and even his delusions don't run to gettin' Barr into the white house.

He can't back the wrong horse in the party of criminally organized corruption and family values hypocrisy cause his ability to try blackmail with his "voters" would crash big time sorta like wall street is doin' right now.

Dobson has always been about the image much more then any reality backin' it.

Principle's GIVE ME A FREAKIN BREAK. This man, and I use that term lightly, has none.

Focus on the hypocrisy.

Focus on the flip flop.

Focus on the homophobia.

Focus on the warmongering.

Flip flopping Christ-o-fascist was against McCain before he was for him.

Clif @ 54:

pissed off patricia @ 49:

Why doesn't Dobson vote for Bob Barr? Seems a better match than McCain and that way he can keep from looking foolish. Okay, nothing can keep him from looking foolish, but still...

For Dobson it is about access to power and even his delusions don't run to gettin' Barr into the white house.

He can't back the wrong horse in the party of criminally organized corruption and family values hypocrisy cause his ability to try blackmail with his "voters" would crash big time sorta like wall street is doin' right now.

Dobson has always been about the image much more then any reality backin' it.

Oh! If only his supporters were smart enough to see through this false prophet (profit?). Maybe then they'd dump him into the sea and actually support a REAL Christian family value supporter.

Not that I am condoning the inherent homophobia and bigotry that comes with being a modern "Christian Conservative", merely that I prefer when people have principles they believe deeply in, that they actually hold to them and not support hypocrites.

Hell, if we all did that, this would be a much different country and we would probably have at least 5-7 political parties. But no, we're ALL about lesser of two evils, even Dobson. Only for him, it's more about who will keep him floating on his pedestal of power, rather than who will best advocate his supposed principles and values.

As many on here have said, Obama is far closer to Dobson's stated "family values" than McCain. But Dobson proves it's about the politics, not the principles.

"Beware of practicing your piety before men in order to be seen by them; for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven. ..And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. ..But when you pray, go into your room and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you." (Matthew 6:1-6 RSV

In vain do they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the precepts of men.'" (Matthew 15:1-9 RSV)

The vain, proud hypocrisy of the Dobsons of the world is exceeded only by their demagoguery, ideology, and selfservice.

Dobson's 'choice' was always a false one. he is not a man of principle, he's a man of political expediency. As so is John McCain, it's appropriate that Dobson will now be supporting McCain.

DAMN! There goes oBOMBalamadingdongs pandering efforts to the superstitionist RIGHTwing wackjob vote! I guess he hangs his hopes on the LEFTwing superstitionist wackjob vote now. Wright, Farrakhan, Flieger(or however the hell you spell this conmans name). Promise to increase the "faith based initiative" money even more, come on precious, you can do it! I mean, you ARE the messiah an all?...Ain'tcha?

he contridicts everything you beleive about marriage and family. really? so you don't believe in being faithful to your wife and being a good father who teaches his children about the importance of hard work and family?

Fall @ 14:

Dale @ 8:

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family...."

Barack is married to a woman, has two children and has never been divorced. What is there for Dobson to dislike?

While McCain dumps his wife and leaves his children to marry a wealthy blonde who is 18 years his junior. Wow, those are some nice family values.

And the wars and killing too! Don't forget those GOP family values.

Stealing, lying and lawbreaking also. Those are GOP family values too. Hating, don't forget that GOP value. Nothing says Jesus and caring like some good ole' fashioned wingnut hatred. I mean really really hating people, the ones who are different than you; like gays and foreigners. GOP family value all the way.

johnnypunchclock @ 56:

Focus on the hypocrisy.

Focus on the flip flop.

Focus on the homophobia.

Focus on the warmongering.

Focus on the debt

Focus on the death

Focus on the destruction

Focus on the alienated allies

Focus on the emboldened enemies

Focus on the trampled constitution

Focus on the war profiteering

Focus on the gas prices

Focus on lie based trillion dollar war

Focus on a depleted military

Focus on a depleted national guard

Focus on Katrina

Focus on the cronyism

Focus on the courts stacked with unqualified conservative activist justices that throw elections

Focus on the record profits for big oil

Focus on the trashed environment

Focus on the GOP has made America economically, morally and militarily weaker

Focus on the divisive political strategies designed to divide Americans against one another

Focus on the foreclosures

Focus on the recession

Focus on the lies

Focus on the traitorous CIA agent outing

Focus on the politicizing of every goverment agency

Focus on Rove, Cheney and Chimp

Focus on the imcompetence

Focus on warrantless wiretappings

Focus on the corrupt Tom Delay congress for most of the past decade

Focus on the worst and most disasterous presidential administration in US history

Focus on the the GOP is the party of hate, intolerance, corruption, incompetence, division and religious extremism

Focus on the chickens now coming home to roost for all of the above

Focus on McSame is more of the same

Focus on as long as the GOP is in power America will never be safe

"Focus on the Family" is a distraction from "Focus on the Community"

"Focus on the Family" is designed to marginalize everyone who is not in a two-parent heterosexual nuclear family.

"Focus on the Family" is designed to cut the population into discrete economic units whose only ties are to other families, the church and the corporations - not to the community.

Obama IS a threat to this agenda, because his focus is all-inclusive - the widow, the orphan, the gays, the single parent family .. as well as those who are in heterosexual two-parent nuclear families.

McCain got into the Navy Academy because Daddy and Granddaddy were admirals. They kept him, even if he did end up at the bottom of the barrel, for the same reason. Republicans seem to go after candidates that barely make it and then build them up as heroes. Reagan was a dummy. Bushit a dummy. McCain a dummy. Cheney a sociopath. Dan Qualude a dummy. Democrats try to counter with a person of intelligence and character. They'd be better off with a dummy. The average American wants a dummy they could hang out with in a bar, not an example to admire. Dems need to stop beating themselves over the head and get Obama a REAL idiot as a VP candidate so the Average American can feel some comfortable with his campaign and then stop talking over their heads. The Average American wants a dummy that rides a Harley, not an intellectual that drives a Prius.

Larry King's people didn't give this airtime? I guess Dobson isn't as telegenic as Jesse Ventura. Really. Does Dobson honestly think the neocons give a rat's ass about his endorsement? Reaganites privately mocked the moral majority and this gang is no different.

Obummer @ 22:

who the hell cares? who does charles manson endorse? why does it matter what crazy people think?

That's right!!! Knobson is crazy..........and his tax exempt status should be revoked ASAP.

Obama's win will reduce Dobson's political influence ,White House connections and access.
He has nothing to gain by voting for Obama.

By voting for McCain..he might have a better chance,might not be as Bush and Reagan gave him.
Dobson left with no choice but to stick with McCain.
He was hoping Huckabee 'his man' will be the GOP nominee.

That's what's all about... POWER.

Ibost @ 48:

NO, for Dobson, its's all about MONEY!

We have a winner! Dobson's been under a lot of pressure by his board to back the repub side of the ticket no matter what. We're seeing that Christian right block of voters break down; the repubs can't count on that to put them over the top in some key swing states anymore. If the dems win this is a group of people who stand to lose power - and possibly some money in taxes they can't hide in the church, if Obama has his way with his proposed tax plan.

Dobson can go ahead and give McCain his endorsement for all I care. It stands to McCain more harm than good right now, as Dobson has been losing followers steadily for the past year. At this point in time his endorsement of McCain may be enough to convince a few more undecided voters to back Obama.

american in holland @ 66:

Larry King's people didn't give this airtime? I guess Dobson isn't as telegenic as Jesse Ventura. Really. Does Dobson honestly think the neocons give a rat's ass about his endorsement? Reaganites privately mocked the moral majority and this gang is no different.

Nope. But they did have Bobby Jindal on CNN this morning, much to my pre-coffee dismay. Is that close enough?

To quoth Alice Cooper's School's Out

"We got no class...and we got no principles..."

Gretchen @ 69:

Ibost @ 48:

NO, for Dobson, its's all about MONEY!

We have a winner! Dobson's been under a lot of pressure by his board to back the repub side of the ticket no matter what. We're seeing that Christian right block of voters break down; the repubs can't count on that to put them to put out.

There, I fixed it for you.

Seems to me Dobson should be more concerned about his brethren in the Christian Evangelical ministry. Lots of them have turned out to be shysters, adulterers and downright rotten. Most of those who run mega-churches are only in it for the money: big collection plates = big honkin' churches, big mansions, big planes, etc.
It's all a racket. Too bad, because I really think Jesus had some good ideas.

Dobson's kabuki dance is over. Democrats could nominate Jesus Christ and Dobson would still support the political party that caters to his focus: personal political power and $.

ysbaddaden @ 72:

Gretchen @ 69:

Ibost @ 48:

NO, for Dobson, its's all about MONEY!

We have a winner! Dobson's been under a lot of pressure by his board to back the repub side of the ticket no matter what. We're seeing that Christian right block of voters break down; the repubs can't count on that to put them to put out.

There, I fixed it for you.

Thank you. :)

Obama does not need these religious wack jobs to win......

McCain does...

Amitola @ 73:

Seems to me Dobson should be more concerned about his brethren in the Christian Evangelical ministry. Lots of them have turned out to be shysters, adulterers and downright rotten. Most of those who run mega-churches are only in it for the money: big collection plates = big honkin' churches, big mansions, big planes, etc.
It's all a racket. Too bad, because I really think Jesus had some good ideas.

Three of Dobson's buddies are under federal investigation right now. A few weeks ago Ken Copeland refused to turn over tax records to investigators because "they belong to God". Like his private jet, I guess. One of Dobson's biggest concerns right now is to save his own ass if the investigations go wider. He has to find a candidate to throw some votes at and McCain is the most likely to protect that sack of shit if he wins in November.

does gay marriage, abortion and whatever other wedge issue Dobson can think of always trump healthcare, getting the economy working, getting out of war, etc....

I just don't understand these religious people.....

What have the Republicans done for Dobson since Regan on abortion, gays and these other so called religious issues... the Republicans have done absolutely nothing regarding these issues that Dobson supposively considers important... Abortion is still hear, gays have more rights.. etc. etc. etc..

so if the Republicans have done nothing then wouldn't it be better to vote for the party - Democrats - that want to fight poverty, bring social justice, end war.... etc, etc..... aren't these the principals that religious people should believe strong in.... ???

Good deal mr Dobson. Vote for the pro calling you wife a C**t, pro calling your wife a Trollop, pro- divorce your cripplled wife for a gazillionare bleached blonde beer heiress. That's why I love the repugs, true family values, every time.

bob dobbs @ 79:

Good deal mr Dobson. Vote for the pro calling you wife a C**t, pro calling your wife a Trollop, pro- divorce your cripplled wife for a gazillionare bleached blonde beer heiress. That's why I love the repugs, true family values, every time.

What about the Sopranos?

It is all about the Supreme Court.... and Dobson's person power and influence....

Phillip @ 78:

does gay marriage, abortion and whatever other wedge issue Dobson can think of always trump healthcare, getting the economy working, getting out of war, etc....

I just don't understand these religious people.....

What have the Republicans done for Dobson since Regan on abortion, gays and these other so called religious issues... the Republicans have done absolutely nothing regarding these issues that Dobson supposively considers important... Abortion is still hear, gays have more rights.. etc. etc. etc..

so if the Republicans have done nothing then wouldn't it be better to vote for the party - Democrats - that want to fight poverty, bring social justice, end war.... etc, etc..... aren't these the principals that religious people should believe strong in.... ???

Dobson knows the deal. It's all about MONEY. Which was pointed out above. His followers may be true believers in SOMETHING, but it is not in what Dobson believes in. He is just another snake oil salesman, same as politicians, using issues to enrich himself.

If abortion were overturned, what issue could he rally his troops around? The same thing with gay rights. Dobson doesn't want these issues decided, he wants them to continue. That way he can shill for more and more money, more and more donations for JEEEESUS.

The preacher dodge is one of the oldest dodges in history. It is only surpassed in history as a profession by the world's OLDEST profession.

bob dobbs @ 79:

Good deal mr Dobson. Vote for the pro calling you wife a C**t, pro calling your wife a Trollop, pro- divorce your cripplled wife for a gazillionare bleached blonde beer heiress. That's why I love the repugs, true family values, every time.

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Surprise! Surprise!
Obama, McCain to stump at Orange County mega church

Associated Press
07/21/2008

LAKE FOREST - Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Democratic Sen.

Barrack Obama of Illinois will make their first joint appearance of the presidential campaign next month at an Orange County mega church, its pastor said today.

McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, and his Democratic counterpart will take part in a forum at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest Aug. 16, Rick Warren, the church's founding pastor, said in a statement.

"We're honored that the candidates chose The Saddleback Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion for their first joint appearance, an unprecedented opportunity for America to hear both men back-to-back on the same platform," Warren said.

"This is a critical time for our nation and the American people deserve to hear both candidates speak from the heart -- without interruption -- in a civil and thoughtful format absent the partisan `gotcha' questions that typically produce heat instead of light."

Warren, whose church claims 22,000 members, said he was making the announcement today "upon confirmation by both campaigns."

"The primaries proved that Americans care deeply about the faith, values, character and leadership convictions of candidates as much as they do about the issues," said Warren, author of "The Purpose Driven Life."

He said that, at the candidates' request, the two-hour event lasting from 5 p.m. until 7 p.m. would be held in a non-debate format and open to all media, but only Warren will be asking questions, and the candidates will not be on the podium at the same time.
The candidates are expected to appear together briefly before each take questions from Warren for about an hour. Obama will go first, which was decided by a coin toss, Warren said.

"While I know both men as friends and they recognize I will be frank, but fair, they also know I will be raising questions in ... four areas beyond what political reporters typically ask," Warren said. "This includes pressing issues that are bridging divides in our nation, such as poverty, HIV/AIDS, climate and human rights."

If Obama can splinter the Evangelical Vote it could be just as decisive a move in American politics as the Republican's "Southern Strategy" that split the DixieCrats from the Democratic Party.

Go Obama Go!

Obama's got MUCH stronger Christian credentials than McCain.

Obama is not the "say-the-magic-words-and-go-to-heaven-and-to-hell-with-everyone-else" kind of "Christian" who is in the White House now.

He is my kind of Christian - the "Sermon-On-The-Mount" Christian: practice the Golden Rule, care for the weak, welcome the stranger.

Bob ain't working

Guess he found his slack.

Ultimately, Dobson's only metric for support is the "R" next to Sen. McCain's name. Who cares whether the man has lived his life in accordance with the principles of the FOF or not. Sort of like throwing the people in FOF under the bus, isn't it?

I can tolerate the christians so long as they don't try to convert me or flaunt their lifestyle. What they do in private is fine.

Dale @ 16:

The Exotic, yet bitter Chico Hussein Escuela @ 11:

Dale @ 8:

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family...."

Barack is married to a woman, has two children and has never been divorced. What is there for Dobson to dislike?

(whispers)

he's black.

Oh yes. What was I thinking?

And he has a funny middle name.

I could've called this one once McCain started winning the primaries. Dobson's got his panties in a bunch probably because he sees the tide coming for Obama, see the money Obama is generating compared to McCain, and is thinking any good words for McCain are better late than never.

MountainMan23 @ 84:

Surprise! Surprise!
Obama, McCain to stump at Orange County mega church

Associated Press
07/21/2008

LAKE FOREST - Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona and Democratic Sen.

Barrack Obama of Illinois will make their first joint appearance of the presidential campaign next month at an Orange County mega church, its pastor said today.

McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, and his Democratic counterpart will take part in a forum at Saddleback Church in Lake Forest Aug. 16, Rick Warren, the church's founding pastor, said in a statement.

"We're honored that the candidates chose The Saddleback Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion for their first joint appearance, an unprecedented opportunity for America to hear both men back-to-back on the same platform," Warren said.

"This is a critical time for our nation and the American people deserve to hear both candidates speak from the heart -- without interruption -- in a civil and thoughtful format absent the partisan `gotcha' questions that typically produce heat instead of light."

Warren, whose church claims 22,000 members, said he was making the announcement today "upon confirmation by both campaigns."

"The primaries proved that Americans care deeply about the faith, values, character and leadership convictions of candidates as much as they do about the issues," said Warren, author of "The Purpose Driven Life."

He said that, at the candidates' request, the two-hour event lasting from 5 p.m. until 7 p.m. would be held in a non-debate format and open to all media, but only Warren will be asking questions, and the candidates will not be on the podium at the same time.
The candidates are expected to appear together briefly before each take questions from Warren for about an hour. Obama will go first, which was decided by a coin toss, Warren said.

"While I know both men as friends and they recognize I will be frank, but fair, they also know I will be raising questions in ... four areas beyond what political reporters typically ask," Warren said. "This includes pressing issues that are bridging divides in our nation, such as poverty, HIV/AIDS, climate and human rights."

If Obama can splinter the Evangelical Vote it could be just as decisive a move in American politics as the Republican's "Southern Strategy" that split the DixieCrats from the Democratic Party.

Go Obama Go!

Obama's got MUCH stronger Christian credentials than McCain.

Obama is not the "say-the-magic-words-and-go-to-heaven-and-to-hell-with-everyone-else" kind of "Christian" who is in the White House now.

He is my kind of Christian - the "Sermon-On-The-Mount" Christian: practice the Golden Rule, care for the weak, welcome the stranger.

Rick Warren is a tool. Difficult economic times will always push people toward religion and crime. If we raise the median standard of living, we'll see a lot less influence from mega-church Christians.

jitter @ 7:

Funny, I oppose McCain more than I support Obama.
But isn't that how it always seems to go?

Exactly what I was thinking. Welcome to the club Mr. Dobson. We actually have something in common, but I think you'll find McCain's flexible principles will suit your soul-extorting needs just fine.

Dr. Hussein Matt @ 88:

Dale @ 16:

The Exotic, yet bitter Chico Hussein Escuela @ 11:

Dale @ 8:

(whispers)

he's black.

Oh yes. What was I thinking?

And he has a funny middle name.

And he doesn't think that a woman's uterus should be stamped "PROPERTY OF THE STATE."

Whoever thought Dobson was "principled"? He's a frigging religious leader (read - like a politician - wants his POWER at any cost)...and how does his present position make him any different from all those berating Hillary supporters from not FALLING IN LINE and just supporting Obama because we can't let a REPUG win? Seems that with either camp it's the ends justifying the means? BTW have seen few critiques on the article in NEW YORKER on Obama (all about the "cartoon" I guess)...

If you are still listening to this moron, you have no brains anyway. Doesn't mean you won't be voting, and voting for mcAncient...but you are beyond hope.

This piece of hypocritical crap looks to "the right" for his family values. OK. That makes NO sense, but go for it idiots.

The whole sway in this bigot's judgment is that he is anti gay and opposed to abortion in any sense. I'm not pro-abortion, but I am also not in a position to make judgments about someone else's right to chose. And as for gays, I will loudly state that some of the kindest, most genuine people I have ever met have been gay. It's not my lifestyle, but I certainly think it is NONE of MY BUSINESS at the same time. God loves us all.

This pig is beyond logic and uses his faith to condemn and lead his flock of "brain dead" to do the same. Piss on his head!

Why is it that the never divorced, not known to be unfaithful guy with healthy kids is a threat to family, but the closeted homosexuals and adulterers who create legislation that destroys the middle class are considered part of the "family values" crowd?

Why does our MSM give this guy a megaphone?

Who is he, and why should anyone care what he thinks about politics? Oh and is his church tax exempt, because it really shouldn't be.

MountainMan23 @ 64:

"Focus on the Family" is a distraction from "Focus on the Community"

"Focus on the Family" is designed to marginalize everyone who is not in a two-parent heterosexual nuclear family.

"Focus on the Family" is designed to cut the population into discrete economic units whose only ties are to other families, the church and the corporations - not to the community.

Obama IS a threat to this agenda, because his focus is all-inclusive - the widow, the orphan, the gays, the single parent family .. as well as those who are in heterosexual two-parent nuclear families.

Very well written.

Dobson is a crook. He should be in the Great Oil Party.

Dobson is an elitist flip-flopper.

american in holland @ 87:

I can tolerate the christians so long as they don't try to convert me or flaunt their alternative lifestyle. What they do in private is fine.

There, I fixed it for you.

....Huh, well if Obama contradicts everything Dobson believes in??
Off hand, I'd have to say that's a good thing. I'm still mighty pissed off at Obama and the dems for caving on FISA, but I gotta say anything that rubs the Dobsons of the world the wrong way is OK by me..... As for Dobson's 'principles?'.....Hahahahah, that's funny... What principles exactly are we talking about??? Cause the only real principle he follows, near as I can tell, if you want to call it a principle... Is the one that fleeces peoples money out of their back pockets into his using fear, hate and bigotry..... He is pretty 'focussed' on THAT.......All the rest of his shuck and jive speaks for itself............... JD

What an Ahole.

ysbaddaden @ 100:

american in holland @ 87:

I can tolerate the christians so long as they don't try to convert me or flaunt their alternative lifestyle. What they do in private is fine.

There, I fixed it for you.

What are you today, Mr. Fix-it?

pissed off patricia @ 50:

For all these well known preachers, it's all about the money. They sell heaven insurance and the people who can least afford it, buy it. The preachers tell the people if they do what he says they'll all go to heaven. Of course when the time comes and they die, no one can prove or disprove that the preacher was right. On and on goes the cycle and on and on, in comes the money in the collection plate.

Lord of Mercy, Sister Patricia, where have you been. GOD, I said GOD, gives signs to these great interlopers. They speak of how they know, they know that (the deceased) is free of their maladies and rest in the comfort of JESUS, I said JESUS.

Snark/

I almost shit my pants when I heard a person eugolizing his father tell those assembled how "God's work just got easier now that my father sits next to him with Jesus sitting on the other side".

These people are nuts.

Dobson and other religious leaders should not be able to publically state their politically views...... and if they do their church should not be tax-emept.....

tax payers support these guys, given their non-payment of taxes.... last time I checked there is a separation of church and state...

so stay out of politics or start paying...

OXYMORON:

Dobson’s principles

also:
Military intelligence
political will
Democratic spine

Fall @ 14:

Dale @ 8:

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family...."

Barack is married to a woman, has two children and has never been divorced. What is there for Dobson to dislike?

While McCain dumps his wife and leaves his children to marry a wealthy blonde who is 18 years his junior. Wow, those are some nice family values.

A wealthy blonde who is so emotionally weak that she needed to pop pills to deal with her ethical shortcomings in the saving-and-loan scandal

The real point of his statement is to get the "Focus on Dobson"

JimboSlice @ 108:

Fall @ 14:

Dale @ 8:

Is UBS hiding information about Mrs. McKeatingFive's trust fund and hidden assets and hidden profits? Does the IRS care about repug fraud? stay tuned.

If Obama can splinter the Evangelical Vote it could be just as decisive a move in American politics as the Republican’s “Southern Strategy” that split the DixieCrats from the Democratic Party.

Hmmm! This was already in the making, even before Obama presidential bid.

Focus on your own damn family

To continue … “Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family and what is best for the nation. His radical positions on life, marriage and national security force me to reevaluate the candidacy of our only other choice, John McCain.”

"I oppose Barack Obama because he's Christian, he's faithfully involved in a long-term marriage, has two beautiful (and, horror of horrors, *well-behaved*) daughters, and is actively engaged in trying to get our soldiers out of harm's way, inviting anyone who will engage with him to the table to talk." -- James Dobson

Tsk, tsk, Dobson. What would Jesus say?

seagull.girl @ 51:

Keep in mind, the family who brought you Blackwater is one of Dobson's biggest financial supporters. Follow the money...

That 100-years in Iraq proposal from McSame sure sounds like something Je$u$ would have endorsed.

Any link to a direct statement from Dobson declaring he'd "stay home" if McCain was the nominee?

While Dobson's approach often makes us more progressive Christians shudder, that still doesn't justify bearing false witness against the guy.

Dobson is nothing but a FAKE RELIGIOUS ZEALOT that only survives because of the ignorant, Reslug followers that pay his bills and for his rich lifestyle. He's laughing all the way to the bank at his ignorant, moronic, hateful, sheep.

Ruthless People @ 64:

johnnypunchclock @ 56:

Focus on the hypocrisy.

Focus on the flip flop.

Focus on the homophobia.

Focus on the warmongering.

Focus on the debt

Focus on the death

Focus on the destruction

Focus on the alienated allies

Focus on the emboldened enemies

Focus on the trampled constitution

Focus on the war profiteering

Focus on the gas prices

Focus on lie based trillion dollar war

Focus on a depleted military

Focus on a depleted national guard

Focus on Katrina

Focus on the cronyism

Focus on the courts stacked with unqualified conservative activist justices that throw elections

Focus on the record profits for big oil

Focus on the trashed environment

Focus on the GOP has made America economically, morally and militarily weaker

Focus on the divisive political strategies designed to divide Americans against one another

Focus on the foreclosures

Focus on the recession

Focus on the lies

Focus on the traitorous CIA agent outing

Focus on the politicizing of every goverment agency

Focus on Rove, Cheney and Chimp

Focus on the imcompetence

Focus on warrantless wiretappings

Focus on the corrupt Tom Delay congress for most of the past decade

Focus on the worst and most disasterous presidential administration in US history

Focus on the the GOP is the party of hate, intolerance, corruption, incompetence, division and religious extremism

Focus on the chickens now coming home to roost for all of the above

Focus on McSame is more of the same

Focus on as long as the GOP is in power America will never be safe

but, but, but ......

LOOK EVERYONE,

Iran is a grave and gathering THREAT !

Let's GET 'IM !

Good. McCain will be forced further to the right. Notice Dobson, the ultimate professional Christian, said: "The possibility is there that I might." I interpret that as "Gimme some political lovin'." McSame will have to turn harder to the right, which is going to alienate him more, and make him appear even more Bush-like. Interesting scenario...if he does not pursue or even rejects Dobson's endorsement outright, he will alienate the religious winguts. And if he accepts it, he's REALLY screwed.

The fact that Dobson's opposes Obama almost makes me want to vote for the guy.

Obummer @ 22:

who the hell cares? who does charles manson endorse? why does it matter what crazy people think?

i'm with you.

So he is endorsing the war mongering guy who left his first wife and kids after she was injured in an auto accident. Way to go Mr. Family values..

Whatever the reasons the religious right would like McCain over Obama, I assume they're devoid of logic or principle.

A man is known by his deeds not his words. Dobson should be worried about his deeds of intolerance and graceless judgements. He should be far more concerned about his own character than who is running for President. If Jesus were alive today, he would be as far left as you can get.

In all fairness to Dobson (cause hes such a great guy) he seems pretty reluctant and almost sickened by being almost forced to endorse McCain.

One helluvan endorsement though eh?

'I hereby endorse that filthy scumbag whom i cant stand...vote for him if you feel like it'

Preach on, bruthaman...preach on...

Bert @ 112:

Focus on your own damn family

Then sell the dvd online.

Their slogan can be, pedophilia, not just for Catholics anymore.

Gretchen @ 104:

ysbaddaden @ 100:

american in holland @ 87:

I can tolerate the christians so long as they don't try to convert me or flaunt their alternative lifestyle. What they do in private is fine.

There, I fixed it for you.

What are you today, Mr. Fix-it?

Ouch,

Makes me want to cross my legs

Would that keep away vampires?

Which flip would Jesus flop?

peaceful easy feeling @ 115:

Any link to a direct statement from Dobson declaring he'd "stay home" if McCain was the nominee?

While Dobson's approach often makes us more progressive Christians shudder, that still doesn't justify bearing false witness against the guy.

"Should Sen. McCain capture the nomination as many assume, I believe this general election will offer the worst choices for president in my lifetime. I certainly can't vote for Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama based on their virulently anti-family policy positions. If these are the nominees in November, I simply will not cast a ballot for president for the first time in my life."

Good job, Jim. Mr. McCain stands for marriage more than Mr. Obama? Let's see, he stands for marriage so much that he walked on his wife, dumped her, while having an affair with a woman who could have been his child. He walked out on his own kids to screw/marry the young girl. And, he is the role model for marriage? This reminds me of Pat Robertson endorsing Rudy G. Womanizer, adulterer, third marriage, kids who state he was not there for them. Can someone help me, I have to be missing something. Can they really be that blind and hypocritical?

File this under highly predictable.

C'mon: McCain's divorce will be swept under the rug just like St. Ronnie's was. McCain's problem is that he doesn't have Reagan's charisma. But I do agree that Dobson probably isn't doing his campaign any favors--I think it boils down to whether or not McCain's "loyalty test" with the theocons and Dominionists will require tapping Huckabee for Veep. Tammany Hall is still open for business, but these days it has a steeple.

Personally, I believe that the use of Dobson's name, and the word principles, don't exactly fit into the same sentence. If it were reworded to say his lack of principle/s that would fit.

"Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family "
so it would appear that to this christian leader a man that is married to one woman with two healthy and happy children is more of a threat than a man that has divorced his first wife, in sickness, and has been accused of building up to an affair with a staffer. and let us not forget how he treated his first wife with so little respect as to call her......
damn there i go again thinking a repube makes decisions based on facts.
Dobson certainly would never let factual evidence influence his opinion.

Piece of crap said what?

BrokenArrow @ 68:

Obummer @ 22:

who the hell cares? who does charles manson endorse? why does it matter what crazy people think?

That's right!!! Knobson is crazy..........and his tax exempt status should be revoked ASAP.

Actually, he refused tax-exempt status for FoF precisely so he could espouse this line of tripe.

Rusty Shackleford @ 128:

"Should Sen. McCain capture the nomination as many assume, I believe this general election will offer the worst choices for president in my lifetime. I certainly can't vote for Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama based on their virulently anti-family policy positions. If these are the nominees in November, I simply will not cast a ballot for president for the first time in my life."

Although there are some caveats (from your link):

Here's what Focus on the Family founder James Dobson just said in a statement opposing John McCain, according to an email just sent out by the Romney campaign. The statement was apparently released exclusively to the Laura Ingraham show (listen to it here).

So Dobson was against McCain before he was for him. What a surprise! Lots of superdelegates switched horses in midstream, too. The political arena is one of the last places to be looking for principled people and role models. It's right up there with the entertainment world.

Charles @ 96:

Why is it that the never divorced, not known to be unfaithful guy with healthy kids is a threat to family, but the closeted homosexuals and adulterers who create legislation that destroys the middle class are considered part of the "family values" crowd?

Because the Democrats in power let them get away with it. And we're indirectly complacent because we keep sending the same spineless whelps back to suck at the teat of our treasury while making this nation worse through their lack of conviction.

A fake christian republican has principles?

James @ 135:

Actually, he refused tax-exempt status for FoF precisely so he could espouse this line of tripe.

Apparently incorrect.

But what of the IRS? Needless to say, allegations of the sort put forth by CREW are taken very seriously. In response to the complaint, the IRS engaged in an inquiry of Focus on the Family. We cooperated fully with the investigation, of course, and members of our staff spent literally hundreds of hours responding to IRS questions and requests for documents, e-mails, magazine articles, radio transcripts, and so on. The IRS left no stone unturned in its quest to discover whether or not CREW’s allegations had any merit.

I’m pleased to report that the IRS answered that question with a resounding “no.” Let me cut to the chase: The IRS’s year-long review revealed that Focus on the Family was guilty of absolutely none of the trumped-up charges brought forth by CREW.

The IRS’s final report stated:

“Our examination revealed that Dr. Dobson’s reported remarks did not occur in publications of Focus on the Family, did not occur at functions of Focus on the Family, and did not involve Dr. Dobson suggesting that he was speaking as a representative of Focus on the Family. As such, we are closing our examination without any change to our recognition of Focus on the Family as an organization described in section 501(c)(3).”

http://www2.focusonthefamily.com/docstudy/newsletters/A000000953.cfm

"but this certainly doesn’t make Dobson look like Mr. Principled."

the closest dobson's ever been to a principle is to one that is spelled "principal"...

Dale @ 8:

“Barack Obama contradicts and threatens everything I believe about the institution of the family...."

Barack is married to a woman, has two children and has never been divorced. What is there for Dobson to dislike?

he's black

Dobson's choice is not unlike at those "principled" progressives who now back Obama -- even after his betrayals on FISA, gun control, the death penalty, etc.

Oh, sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt your blind self righteousness.

Please. Where are all the principled progressives who are going to vote Nader instead of Obama? They're not here, because YOU all are as "principled" as Dobson. This board has become an enclave for mindless shilling for Obama.

#8 and #141 summarize it perfectly.

Aaah, yes... that good ol' evangelical zeal when the green passes the palm... graft and chicanery is what Dobson really stands for and that promise of money is exactly what motivates him. Greed is one of the seven original sins, Mr. Dobson... look out! Your maker certainly is.

osiris @ 28:

Dobson's overt "flip-flop" is obviously motivated by fear. Wonder what they have on him?

I think it's more motivated by money... or that elusive power that Dobson oh-so-badly wants.

Doesn't someone have some pictures of Dobson with his best buddy Ted Haggard or some sheep???!!!!

This is a clear message that Dobson and any other religious entity that endorses or promotes any candidate or tries to sway and influence a person's conscience to vote one way or another SHOULD LOSE TAX EXEMPT STATUS. This will keep all preachers in the church, where they should be, and truly separate church and state. It seems to me that churches have enough on their hands without weighing into elections.

What a shock! Dobson is reversing himself and now SUPPORTS McCain?

As does Hannity. And as will Coulter and all the other neoconservatives who formerly said they despised McCain.

They are suckers who fall in line and support the Republican candidate everytime. They aren't conservatives, they're Republican shills.

Too bad for them that Obama is going to probably kick the crap out of McCain in the debates and win the election in a few months.

McCain must have let is slip that he was going to have the IRS check the books at ole FotF without support.

Dobson=radio hall of fame inductee...over Howard Stern. See? I told you there was no God.

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