Cheney forces 'huge imposition' on wounded combat veterans
By Steve Benen Monday Jul 28, 2008 7:30amI shudder to think what the reaction might be if Barack Obama tried to pull a stunt like this one.
Vice President Cheney’s invitation to address wounded combat veterans next month has been yanked because the group felt his security demands were Draconian and unreasonable.
The veep had planned to speak to the Disabled American Veterans at 8:30 a.m. at its August convention in Las Vegas.
His staff insisted the sick vets be sequestered for two hours before Cheney’s arrival and couldn’t leave until he’d finished talking, officials confirmed.
“Word got back to us … that this would be a prerequisite,” said the veterans executive director, David Gorman, who noted the meeting hall doesn’t have any rest rooms. “We told them it just wasn’t acceptable.”
David Autry, another Disabled American Veterans official, said Cheney’s demands would be “a huge imposition on our delegates.”
That certainly seems to be the case. Some of the veterans were severely wounded in Iraq or Afghanistan, and many more are elderly veterans who “left pieces of themselves on foreign battlefields since World War II.” Getting to an early-morning event two hours beforehand, and getting stuck in a room they can’t leave, isn’t much of an option.
Once inside, the vets “could not leave the meeting room, and the bathrooms are outside,” Autry added.
Now, I understand the importance of security. The Secret Service no doubt has restrictions in place for a reason.
But that’s why I found this part of the New York Daily News article especially interesting.
[T]he vice president’s rules for speaking to groups seem more stringent than those of his boss.
President Bush routinely speaks at events such as large dinners where thousands of guests freely pass back and forth through Secret Service screening portals.
Wait, Dick Cheney would impose unreasonable restrictions on wounded veterans by choice? His security restrictions are more burdensome than the president’s?
If there’s a logical explanation for that, I can’t think of it.
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The logical explanation is that he's Dick Cheney and they're not. He can make you do it so he will.
Good for the vets for standing up to this chickenhawk piece of chickensh*t.
I hope he never, ever shows his face at a veteran's honoring song at a pow-wow - unlikely.
On second thought, I kind of would like to see him show his sorry ass up - I know a couple of warrior societies that might like to explain things to him, Native-syle ....
calvin thinks that he sees a logical explanation. That would be the paranoia of "Shooter" mixing it up with disabled veterans who might harbor a grudge for their wounds. If "Shooter" hadn't lied the U.S. into war, a lot of those disabled veterans might have been non-disabled civilians and, thus, not in attendance. Can't take any chances with this group of terrorists.
Must be a new loyalty oath kinda thing.
" Heh I wait em Out. If they wanna see me, They'll have to prove it"
I'm sure Cheney's response to this was " So"
Good Morning!
Cheney proves once again that he truly is a heartless bastard. Support the troops?
I would bet most of the vets could give a rat's ass about what he has to say anyway.
Votevets.org has a ad out about McCain. It's good.
IMHO Cheney is a worthless piece of shit and I'm trying to be nice today.
Man, these BushCo guys are gutless.
Well, so long as oBOMBalamadingdong can bring along his campaign staff and the cameras he'll be there dude! Otherwise, piss off!
The hallmarks of a thriving democracy................. leaders who are hidden away, or when they do appear amongst the people, are so security ridden that they might as well be hidden away.
Republicans only support the idea of 'supporting the troops'....
Is cheney that paranoid that he is afraid of the vets in the hospital? If so, he better go back to his bunker. Any one vet in that room is a better man than he is.
pissed off patricia @ 4:
Evening POP, yeah, the despicable piece of crap showed his colors on this one. The good thing is that the Veterans Responded appropriately by telling him to buzz off.
Cheney had better get used to this. I have a feeling that he and others in the Admin will Never be able to leave the country after November without fear of being picked up for War Crimes.
What's ol' DickWhad 'fraidy scared of anyway ?
That a soldier might assassinate him ?
He need not worry, the soldiers absolutely WORSHIP this Dick... remember ?
I think Dick's just trying to wiggle out of facing an 'uncomfortable' situation with some wounded soldiers who would love to get a piece of his sorry ass.
I don't blame Cheney a bit. If I had the record he has, I wouldn't want to be in a room full of veterans who haven't been thoroughly screened, filtered, patted down and sealed off. Cheney is terrified of his own Karma. And well he might be.
Why on earth would he need to trap people in a room for hours? Does anyone have an actual explanation for this bizarre behavior other than 'because he's the vice president' because that doesn't answer the question. Not that I'd expect anyone in this administration to answer a question honestly.
How does essentially jailing the audience assist in security? Or does he just like to do it because he can't get to gitmo as often as he'd like for fun?
"If there’s a logical explanation for that, I can’t think of it."
Sure. Take some young boys. Train them to be killers. Send them off to kill. Not for any real reason, but so that your Haliburton stock will increase 5000% like it did last year. Watch them come home with no arms, legs, skin, eyes, sanity, etc,... Now, lock yourself in a room with them for a few hours.
Oh, I pray the next time Cheney goes in for a stint, the head nurse is a vet's mom.
♫..Bangkok Bob..♫ @ 11:
If I had the cash of a foreign despot I'd pay blackwater to rendition his ass the day after he's finally booted out of office.
I heard an unreported account that said that Dick also demanded that each soldier "donate" one pint of blood to Cheney's blood bank.
I'm sure a good number of those vets had the distinct honor of fighting (with pay and free medical treatment for their injuries) to increase Cheney and his partner's profit margins.
And now they treat him like this?
Ingrates.
You know you've hit rock bottom when wounded veterans tell you to "GO FUCK YOURSELF".
♫..Bangkok Bob..♫ @ 11:
I should say good evening to you, right? I'm not very good with this time zone stuff.
Cheney is probably moving to Fort Knox when he leaves office if he's this cowardly and afraid.
Take your Vietnam five defferment ass and die.
**** off! I had other priorities and five deferments.
I shall not breathe an untroubled breath until Dick Cheney's diseased, corrupted, vile, afflicted heart finally tires of its vicious, murderous work, seizes in his chest, and the son-of-a-bitch pitches forward, gasping and dazed, into his soup and drowns....
Biggus Dickus is for waterboarding but against allowing folks to go pee when they need to... Is he the reincarnation of Nero, or Caligula?
Good for them. The only mistake they made was asking this worthless chickenhawk war mongering son of a beatch to speak to them anyway. Anything he had to say would have been nothing but a self-serving lie and most likely would have been too pro grandpa McCain to stomach. Then again, perhaps they should have let him come and pissed on the floor whilst the worthless bum spoke. Never in my life has a more vile individual been in that position (VP), and I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to hear one word that dumb jerk had to say anyway.
pretty big task to pat down all those sick troops for side arms, that's what they're
thinking.. I suppose at this point a signed loyalty oath isn't good enough for an
audience with the Torture King.
DannyEastVillage @ 13:
Bing!
After he visited here in Japan, the prevailing opinions I heard from Sailors was he kept them waiting outside for a really long time, they couldn't use the bathrooms and the entire visit, which was only a couple of hours, cost more than any of them will make in a lifetime and was a huge waste of taxpayer money.
I know I am not the only one thinking this : why in the fucking hell would any Vet or current military personnel ever want to see or hear a 5 deferrment pansy chickenshit asshole speak ?
To understand what it's like to be a complete coward ?
kablooie @ 24:
Methinks Satan is perhaps involved in a big big way with his conception!
kablooie @ 24:
Nosferatu
Looks like Cheney understands how Americans feel about him. He was an evil little man inside the white house fucking up this country for his own personal gain for eight years. And a whole lot of Americans are starting to figure that out. I'd hide too if I'd gotten away with all that and didn't want to get caught.
kablooie @ 24:
He's a highbred!
And Satan's oldest son too!
Tim in Japan @ 27:
Morning Tim, Yep, EVERYTHING this administration does is a big waste of Money. Just look at what they have accomplished with the US economy in just 7.5 years.
Are you getting as much monsoon weather as we are? I saw the sun last week for ten minutes. I'm not complaining, I kind of like the rains and storms. Anyway, good onya and good to see you.
My suggestion would be for David Addington to be sequestered with the troops and Addington could man the piss bucket.
Seems reasonable since Addington has been pissing on the Constitution for 7 years.
Better yet, he could wear a sponge suit and our wounded Vets could express their political views through interperative urination.
Maybe its not the vets he's scared of; maybe it's VEGAS.
Oh devil Vegas,...
The mentality of Las Vegas is so grossly atavistic that a really massive crime often slips by unrecognized.
The possibility of physical and mental collapse is very real... No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...
secularhumanizinevoluter @ 7:
I'm a little confused by this post. Could the poster please explain what he/she means?
Thanking you in advance.
Bob,
Evening to you (us). Honestly, I was shocked by the reception cheney got when he visited. The crowd was a lot more enthusiastic than I would have thought, so I am told. I was asked to go for my job and politely refused. My boss was cool about it. She knows I am a vet.
Actually, the weather here is fantastic. For the most part, the Kanto area in Japan, near Tokyo (where I live) isn't really impacted by the Southwest Monsoon. There's a lot of flooding down south but we've been spared so far. It's been unusually hot however.
Good to see you too, by the way. I've been gone for a while. I went to New England for a job interview. Methinks a handle change may be in my future. ;-)
Why does Cheney hate American veterans?
Well, as long as they handed out "air" sickness bags, they should not have to leave to use the bathroom.
Tim in Japan @ 37:
Tim in Mass?
Barry @ 36:
He got his talking point from the McCain campaign, but they neglected to tell him what thread to post it on.
Are security measures Draconian when protesters are impaled?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/43/Impaled.gif
edgarallenpoe @ 38:
I expect he finds them contemptuous because they weren't rich enough to buy their way out of serving. Like him.
secularhumanizinevoluter @ 7:
Bomb bomb bomb...bomb bomb Iran....
Drilling solves nothing (aka right wing hater) @ 9:
I am a state delegate for the Republican party in Texas. Im also a combat vet of the 82nd Airborne. I do support my brothers in arms 100% as do many of my fellow Republicans that I know. Don't let this piece of crap RINO try to represent us all....he does not. BTW....I will not vote for McSame....he's not a true republican either.
Clearly this was a maneuver to eliminate any voices of opposition.
This guy doesn't have the courage to face these men and women face to face.
ysbaddaden @ 42:
No, that's Dracunian. These are more along the paranoia of a dictator or something, because no leader of a democracy would act like this in front of veterans.
That's OK, why would they want to listen to this major league Chicken Hawk anyway.
Maybe WWII bomber pilot George McGovern would be able to fill in the time.
The same mindless paranoia that lead Cheny to the Iraq war makes him afraid
of wounded and semi mobile vets. SICK! SICK!! SICK!!!
Wes @ 45:
Well, I'm glad to see that you've seen the errors of your ways. But your a little late, don'tcha think?
I hope you're trying to talk some sense into some of your GOP friends.
I have a question for you. If (insert any Dem ) a Dem Candidate, Had signed anti American propaganda and capitulated. Do you think the GOP would show the same reluctance to discuss this issue.
edgarallenpoe @ 41:
An obvious Bill O' the clown fan from Faux Noise.... guess he didn't see the piece where they were outed for receiving talking points straight from the white house......
Wes @ 45:
bravo wes.
one of the most straight-forward, succinct and honest statements I've ever read from an R
thank you. even though we likely disagree on issues, you will get all respect from me.
Well, give Cheney a break, willya? It takes Darth Vader a couple hours to get that helmet on inside his life-support shell......
Wes @ 45:
A combat vet AND a republican?? You truly are a rare individual.
Could you please explain how all you "true republicans" could stand by and allow the chickenhawk neo-CONs and their holier that all teevee preacher buddies hijack your party and destroy the economy and still call yourselves republicans? That's a real puzzler to me.
Former Chief of Medical Operations for HQ USAFE at Ramstein Air Force Base Responds to Latest McCain Ad
Ever since I did 42 months in Vietnam I have attempted to live a life of non-violence however, IMHO, The only "platform" any veteran organization should afford Dick Cheney, and/or George W Bush, is a gallows to swing by!
Justice will prevail in America even after the onslaught from the neo-con fascist!
PEACE by Popular Demand!
♫..Bangkok Bob..♫ @ 40:
In Nomen Domine...
(Butt I prefer Dominas.)
General_Rennenkampf @ 47:
How about while they're not looking?
If V.P." chicken hawk "Cheney had any conscience he would be on his knees begging for injured Vets forgiveness. But he does not. Instead of speaking to these Vets Cheney should be in front of the ICC or the Hague being tried for war crimes.
mudshark @ 49:
Not sure if it was an error on my part Mud...the republican party that I joined many years ago stood for limited government, lower taxes, no nation building, a strong military, fiscal responsibility and allowing people the freedom to run their own lives. Thats all been hijacked by Bush/Dick/paul/collin/condie etc.... they do not represent me nor most of the republicans I know. Im not so much worried about having a R or D by my name.....I want people in congress or the president to do whats right for us. neither side is doing that....but bush and gang have taken us to the edge of the abyss.....no doubt about that. The Dems didn't stop them either.....so there guilty to as far as Im concerned.
Kathleen @ 58:
Wearing a sponge suit..............
Fuck the black hearted Cheney. My question is, why the hell do the troops support Cheney or anyone in this administration?
Guess he's afraid of not being greeted as a liberator.
Yellow Elephant Safari @ 53:
Simple....we were misled by those in the media just like everyone else. I remember when this war in Iraq started, I told all my friends that if they didn't find those WMD's it was going to be a huge problem.....and look what happened. I failed my brothers in arms by not questioning beforehand this war.....and I ask their forgiveness.
Wes @ 59:
I hate to agree with a Republican (especially since my firefighter pension got torpedoed) but the Dems have done NOTHING to oppose the Bush Junta. Right on, Wes.
Wes @ 59:
I really don't mean to come off as being condescending, but you voted for the guy. I can see getting duped once, but not twice. And as for the Dems in Congress, don't forget that Boosh had a GOP Congress for 6 years. And the "Slim" majority the Dems now possess, Is still not enough to pass very much Legislation. And The GOP have been adamant at keeping the Dems in check. And would you please answer my question. Capitulation?
Mike the Riverine @ 52:
I thought that was Ironman.
mudshark @ 65:
Your assuming I voted for him in 2004, I did not
Liberal AND Proud @ 30:
I've been looking long in tooth recently
Looking at all the toothsome wenches.
Being late, to work or any situation that shows disrespect for others, is a hallmark of arrogance. Cheney's the epitome of stultifying arrogance. These vets are of no value to him except as extras in his war porn.
Wes @ 67:
Well, then you did learn from your mistake.Thank You.
Now, how about that question Wes?
I think the details of this situation point out two issues:
(1) Cheney really didn't want to address these people.
(2) Chickenhawk behavior, generally, is a pathetic thing to behold. It mimics gallantry, it mimics heroic behavior by sending other people to their death while putting on shows (huge codpiece while strutting about an aircraft carrier), and putting on airs (Cheney's "dark side"). All the while, they have no internal "core" upon which to draw in the time of real stress; instead they over-react. Imagine the way Bush and Cheney would have behaved, post-9/11, had Bush NOT gone AWOL from the TANG, and had Cheney NOT received 5 draft deferments. Had these two boys-in-mens-clothes actually stepped up to their responsibility, and then gone on to become "leaders" of the free world, it would be a different world we live in now.
Cheney is the most self absorbed amoral piece of .....
Actually, I cannot say what I think because I refuse to lower myself to that level.
But, Cheney has a screw loose. He thinks "24" is real and the whole thing is a training film for sort sort of strange world in which only he and Kiefer Sutherland live.
Bush is a pretty terrible human being, but Cheney's very existence keeps me praying for Bush's safety for the next few months.
Mick @ 64:
Mick...we all need to stop playing the Repub vs Dem game.....and start looking at those that do right by us as Americans first. Were being sold out by both sides as far as Im concerned. Obama just spearheaded a .7% global tax (based on the GNP) on us that will go to the UN. We need to hold them all accountable, regardless of the letter by there name, and make them put our interest first. If they don't, get rid of them!
support the oops @ 69:
Is that anything like snuff films?
http://mulibraries.missouri.edu/specialcollections/images/hamlinii1.jpg
I'd rather see that cowardly, draft-dodging, traitorous cocksucker (we're talking Deadeye, here) sequestered in a room for ten-to-twenty. Why isn't that happening? Do we old burned-out Vets have to get up from our rocking chairs to do the job again (while America lounges in its coast-to-coast Comfort Module complaining about the high cost of gas and watching NASCAR or "Dancing With the Stars")?
Screw you spineless twits...you're getting everything you deserve.
same reason he was the one in an undisclosed location following 9/11...he's the one who's really in charge.
Wes @ 63:
This didn't start in 2003 with the lies of WMDs. This goes back to reagan and bush 1. You "true republicans" played an active role in enabling the neo-con junta with your eyes wide open and it's a lot more than just your military brethren who are suffering the consequences now.
mudshark @ 70:
I agree with what your saying Mud....Im just saying lets all quit being loyal to a party and start being loyal to ourselves as Americans. I didn't go into harms way for the Republican party...i can assure you of that. Im a delegate for the Texas GOP only so that I can raise some cain and hold some peoples feet to the fire as well as cast a vote that truly matters. We don't decide anything at the ballot box when we vote....the delegates do. One of my very best friends is a Dem delegate, we talk all the time and we agree on probably 90% of everything. Were both disgusted with our parties.
Well here we have it, The crux of the biscuit . Trying to get people to turn on Obama over Taxes again.
Stop playing the DvR game? I'll tell you what Wes, you police Your Politicians. And We'll police ours.
Next time, to to do a better job.
OK off to work.
Have a nice day folks.
Wes, I'll be glad to further this conversation after I get home from work.
What a cowardly, self-absorbed, pathetic, uncaring sorry excuse for a human being.. and he's second in line to lead our country??!! HEY Republicans... how long are you going to be led by the nose and fooled by creatures like this??
You claim to be the party that's strong on National Security, yet you're now the party that actually became the fascist/communist/pinko/racist/dicktatorial regime that undermined the constitution!!
Wasn't mcain's nick-name even back in high-school Old Fart?
Of course there is a logical explanation for it.
1. He's paranoid and undoubtedly rightfully so, and
2. He didn't really want to go speak to a bunch of disabled Veterans so he made it virtually impossible for them to accept his conditions.
Seems putting the veterans in the same room with the man who killed and maimed them on false pretenses would be a security risk for Cheney.
secularhumanizinevoluter @ 7:
How about doing some fact-checking before you drink the Fox Kool-aid, asshole!
Well, if I were DICK Cheney, I wouldn't want to be in a big room with hundreds of American Veterans - even if they are disabled!!! Really, why would anyone in the DAV want to waste their precuious time listening (or, even looking at) the Evil One.
Good for them for disinviting the bastard.
jackfoster @ 5:
What did feces ever do to you that you had to go and compare perfectly good fertilizer to the likes of Cheney? Shame on you.
He probably didn't really want to see them. Could he look them in the eye and tell them their sacrifice wasn't for oil or to enrich Halliburton, KBR, or Blackwater?
chainey's a bigger block to going to the bathroom, than kidney stones, constipation and the clap combined.
Why are the secret service wasting their time on metal detectors? If they really want to protect Cheney, they should just detain any vet carrying wooden stakes and holy water. Better yet, ditch the 8:30 a.m. start-up time and have him speak after sunset, when his powers are at their strongest and he is almost impossible to kill.
Looks like Dickless is affraid a wounded soldier would make an attempt on his life. Funny ain't it? Considering how brave Cheney is and all.....
Wes @ 73:
Uh, Wes...how about some specifics. Just what, exactly, does this "U.N. tax" do, how did Obama (a Senator, who doesn't have the authority to speak for the U.S. government) "spearhead" this, and how will this "tax" be collected?
Oh right, the black helicopters will land on our lawns to collect it directly........
new word otter @ 51:
Here here. Nice to know there are a few respectable, honest Republicans out there that have not been assimilated by the Neocon collective.
It's already Obama's fault, OK?
these people were going to listen to that asshat and they were disappointed with his requirements?
what did they expect from the man with the ten0-mile personal no-fly zone?
they invited him to speak after the way Halliburton has treated the troops and after the way blackwater has treated american troops?
they invited that asshat to speak after the bush admin vetoed pay raises for the troops?
they invited thia asshat to speak knowing the conditions at walter reed?
they invited that asshat to speak knowing that he has profited from the deaths of 4700 american service people and the injuries to over 50,000?
I have no sympathy, none whatsofuckingever.
so they cancelled darth cheney's appearance.
But did they see the light?
or are they still stuck on stupid?
Matt in Texas @ 91:
I dunno...the .7% "global tax" sounds like a FOXNoise/NewsMax talking hysterically point... Where did that information originate?
Wes @ 45:
why don't you try to fix your party?
I say put the veterans in the room with Cheney, play this video http://youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I then show show the veterans what caused Cheney to do a 180 once he became VP http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_stock_options_rose_3281_last_1011.... ,then lock the doors and come what may.
LibertyWatch @ 55:
I would be interested in finding out how the real vets feel about whoever invited the fucking asshat darth chainey in the first place. who thought for a second that this prick was worth listening to?
To bad the Vets didn't get a chance to hear a speech for Cheney a Military hero. Yes in his dreams Cheney served in the US Military and fought in Vietnam. He had to read a lot of war stories to get his story right. Why on earth would a Vet or injured troops want to listen to a coward who used lies to invade Iraq so he could increase profit for Halliburton. The President and VP are a disgrace to America and all the Military. Now the photo ops with Cheney and soldiers were set up as the soldiers who volunteered were given bonus in their checks. Yes folks the troops are paid extra to smile with the President or VP without the bonus there would be a no show.
Wes,
Thanks for your comments here and for your service.
I encourage you to explore the history of the Republican party. In my opinion, there is ample evidence that it has never remotely resembled what you espouse. One quick example: The very people you despise as ruining your party (e.g., Cheney, Bushes, etc.) have been and continue to BE your party. Period. There's no wiggle room here. Cheney, Rumsfeld, and many others cut their teeth in the Nixon administration. Bush I and Reagan were up to their eyeballs in the exact same type of monarchial, illegal, unconstitutional behavior that you despise so much in Bush II and Cheney. They and their underlings, in fact, built the structure and set the stage for _exactly_ what is happening now.
So, what are you left with? Going back before Nixon. Well, who was there? Goldwater? That was more than 40 years ago, and by the time he left politics, he had figured out that the Republican party really no longer existed. However, I think that even he was wrong. I don't think the party ever was what he thought it was. I think he had viewed the Republican party, and American conservatism, through rose colored lenses, a view that was possible because he personally grew up in relative affluence AND in the American West at a them when, arguably, a form of feudalism was still possible. Hint: His parents were not serfs.
OK, let's go back even before then. Well, there is Ike. Today, Ike would be considered a flaming liberal, a dangerous radical. But I will grant you that back then, Ike was more conservative than, say, FDR. But not by much. Still and all, he was for his time a conservative. He was also extremely naive about what the Republican party was really all about. I think he finally figured it out (it's all about big business), and at the very end he even figured out that what was good for big business only sometimes is also good for America overall (remember his warning of the miliatry-industrial complex? He hadn't quite grasped that the MIO was really the US core of the general multinational business world).
At this point, going back further gets us into pre-WWII, where with the exception of a small part of Goldwater's West and Adam's New England conservatism, the Republican party really was of, by and for the uber-wealthy. The rest of its members were just chickens voting for Col. Sanders.
Sort of like today...
So, I'll give you Ike, sort of, but even then, I think he was the exception that proves the rule - even in his time he was different from the rest of his party.
Mick @ 94:
sounds like one of those bullshit thread hijackers: "LOOK! OVER HERE! OBAMA DID SOMETHING!"
GIMME A GODDAMNED BREAK!
Wes @ 73:
crock-o-schitt, Wes!
Why don't you go lilsten to a chainey speech?
ysbaddaden @ 57:
Hasn't that gone on since 1783?
Matt in Texas @ 91:
Obama's "Global Poverty Act" (S.2433) There's the senate bill he is pushing.....do some reading. Here' I'll make it easy for you. http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-global-tax-proposal-up-for-senate-v...
General_Rennenkampf @ 102:
How old do you think I am?
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan and Rachel Maddow @ 95:
Ummm....thats why I became a delegate.
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan and Rachel Maddow @ 100:
When Obama farts does it sound of heavenly choirs and smell like rose gardens?
Global tax sounds like maybe UN dues arrears, which I'm all for catching up. Maybe it's fourth reichese like Death Tax instead of Estate Tax.
BaScOmBe hearts Lara Logan and Rachel Maddow @ 95:
Ouch, that makes me want to cross my legs
Would that repel a wampyr?
"If there’s a logical explanation for that, I can’t think of it."
I can. Cheney is scared to death of the troops, particularly those who have been disabled fighting for Halliburton and KBR contracts, and Bush's "political capital".
I'm surprised he is willing to go before any public audience, no mater how carefully screened. He is one of the most despised people in the world, and he knows it.
So, an attempt to end poverty is a bad thing? I don't understand the mentality that believes that the most important thing in life is "low taxes."
Well, the wealthy 1% of Americans now have low taxes. Great. We've got falling bridges, drowned cities, no healthcare, fewer services, veterans and women and children living in the streets,needless wars, pitiful education - BUT we'll all die (because emergency medical services have lost a large part of fed matching funds) clutching our chests - with LOW TAXES!
It seems to me that Republicans have a problem paying for infrastructure and services.
They should change their name to The Deadbeat Party.
The only thing I can add is that he will be soon gone.
Unless they declare themselves King of the Unniverse!
dick should give his address to the graves at the arlington national cemetery.
ysbaddaden @ 104:
25? ;)
General_Rennenkampf @ 113:
Maybe if you count this incarnation
My previous one
And the one that's coming
And split the difference.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhNM2K8cmU8
I like how the right-wingers who want to pretend to be "reasonable" are now pointing out the couple of things Obama did that weren't right by Americans and think we need to get past the GOP vs. Dem stuff and look at who does best by us.
While I've agreed with that sentiment for most of my adult life, it's ludicrous for right-wingers to be saying it now considering they've never said it once in the past 7 years while BushCo was raping the country and shitting all over its ideals. Anything Obama has done is less than peanuts compared to what Bush did in his first year or two.
All you right-wingers can go get bent and I hope it's very fucking painful for you for years. And hopefully you mature and learn something real from that pain.
Dick "chicken little" Cheney
Is he worried a disabled vet might attack him or something?
lol
Wes @ 45:
How do you identify a fake republican? Do real republicans come with a certificate of authenticity?
McCain has served as a senator for your party for over 2 decades and now you decide he ain't a real republican. Hate to tell ya but he is a republican. Every time he opens his lying mouth he proves how authentic of a republican he is.
Mick @ 110: It seems to me that Republicans have a problem paying for infrastructure and services.
They should change their name to The Deadbeat Party.
Absolutely. They have a problem paying for anything that doesn't directly benefit themselves because they're "self-made men" who pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps, didn't get a lick of help from the system or anyone else, and they deserve to keep every single penny they've earned, dammit!
All of their "small government" talk is a sham. When they can use the government to line their own pockets, surprisingly, they don't have a problem with it...
It's clear that libruls don't know anything about security. As anybody who has seen "The Godfather" can tell you, watcha do is hide the guns behind the peebucket, then you excuse yerself, go get it and start blasting. Or was that "Godfather II"? No, "Godfather I" I"m pretty sure.
It's also clear that libruls are not aware of the brutality of the "Crips". As any Fox viewer could tell you, Crips are a dangerous gang from L.A. (California!!). I think it shows incredible courage on the part of our Glorious Vice President to even try to address these "gangstas" on their home "turf." Especially ones who had military training.
There are some things even a shotgun can't protect you from. Thank goodness our Secret Service is not infiltrated with libruls so they know such things.
Ah, Dick Cheney... the gift that just won't stop giving. Thank you VP Cheney... and Bush... and Rumsefeld, Condi, Alberto, Rove, and all the rest great and small who have done so much to damage the Republican Party and revitalize the liberal opposition and progressive movement. I hope the satisfaction with your work sustains you as you face the criminal charges and resulting imprisonment you so richly deserve.
This jerk in unbelievable....
As if that was the first thing that came to mind coming back from a battlefield. Getting on with your life, that should be tought as a lesson!
LockeNessMonster @ 62:
Do they make handgrenades in the shape of flowers and candy ?
It's time to lock Cheney in a room all by himself - with no bathroom.
He has always been a cowardly chickenshit. What a piece of excrement.
LibertyWatch @ 55:
With the things are going on now, dick and w could be hanging around for a while instead of an election.
Unless it turns out to be an "undisclosed location," I have a feeling that Cheney's grave will be the world's largest outdoor toilet.
Cheney forces ‘huge imposition’ on wounded combat veterans
He tried to sit on them?
pissed off patricia @ 20:
MountainMan23 @ 123:
with lights and loud music blaring 24/7.
Well, this is very understandable. You know how unstable many of the Iraq veterans have become, and the wounded have been treated worse than the President's dog. So it is very easy to assume that these purple heart recipients, along with 99% of the general population, would like to see Dick roasted alive. They just need to encase the dark lord in plasticine and let him rule the world from his palace of solitude in Antarctica.
Wes @ 105:
There must be a lot of impostor republicans out there because I keep seeing republicans calling their own fakes.
What does it say about the intelligence of the conservative electorate who repeatedly vote the same fake republicans into office time and time again?
Are the republican electorate that easy to dupe and manipulate?
wheeee @ 131:
WHY WOULD YOU ASK THAT QUESTION? HAVEN'T THE DEMS BEEN "THAT EASY TO DUPE AND MANIPULATE"? WHAT HAVE WE GOT TO CROW ABOUT?
ysbaddaden @ 127:
you left out the "h". only he didn't "try" to shit on them: he has succeeded magnificently.
I'm pretty sure the logical explanation is that Dick Cheney is a fuckin' asshole.
Just spitballing here.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaa?
WHAT A DICK!
hell, mofo, YEA !!!
Just shout single issue most of the time, and shout GOD, GUNS, and TAXES all the time, and you willl have republican electorate cheering, eager to extend their restless-without-a-clue white ashen hand to vote for another Republican nominee.
My favorie quote from a republican colleague, "Oh, yea, I did vote for Bush in 2004, and I don't know why I did that ?!"
It's all about fear. Cheney's paranoia has fueled the harsh measures, from torture to the invasion of Iraq.
woody, tokin librul @ 23:
The problem is that his Defibrillator will keep shocking him back! Damn!!!
DannyEastVillage @ 132:
Why are you screaming?
So the Democratic electorate had been manipulated into voting against their own self intrest, hmmm.....
Everyone should vote for a Republican so we can avoid being manipulated by the Democrats.
DannyEastVillage @ 129:
You forgot the surrounding mirrors.
But chainey's so delusional he probably thinks he looks like Daniel Craig.
DannyEastVillage @ 132:
Unfortunately, our two-party system forces us to choose between the lesser of two evils, which is clearly the Democratic Party. Yes, most of the Democrats currently in office have been--shall we say--reluctant to rock the boat. That's why we need to elect MORE and BETTER Democrats.
However, to say there's no difference between the Democratic and Republican parties displays an obvious ignorance of their basic platforms. The Democratic Party typically recognizes the general unfairness of life in that the social/economic status of the family a child is born into largely dictates how that child's life will play out, so they think it's only fair to try and "level the playing field" to some degree so that America more closely resembles that old "land of opportunity" tagline. The Republican Party, on the other hand, embraces more of a "So what? Life's unfair. Deal with it, ya lazy f*ckin' whiner!" attitude. Unsurprisingly, Republicans are typically rich, white men. Or highly uneducated white men who have been duped into believing that America is Christ-land and Republicans are the party of Jesus-lovin' patriots.
sorry if I'm repeating someone above...I think dick's requirements were intended consciously or unconsciously to blow up the event. He doesn't want to be confronted with his own heartlessness and know that those vets are damaged because of his effed up view of the world. Plus, it just doesn't have the smell of victory. Class A assh*le. So? he just can't be bothered.
Jeff Boatright @ 99:
Nice, thorough and accurate breakdown of the Republican Party there, Jeff. I would add a bit more to the history there:
Eisenhower's comparatively moderate political views aside, he may not be the exception that proves the rule, at least in terms of GOP strategy. After all, Ike – who was courted by both parties to run for President in 1948 – was merely a very popular means to an end for the GOP, an end that is the same today as it was even back then: acquiring and/or retaining power. This lust for power was back then, is today and probably always will be the one and only true goal of the Republican Party. One can trace evidence of this self-righteous, mad desire for power as far back as Reconstruction, when the Republican Party (controlled by the “Radical Republicans”) tried to usurp power from President Andrew Johnson, a Tennessean who was, in the eyes of the Republicans, overly sympathetic to the fortunes of a great number of his Southern constituents. This version of the Republican Party went so far as to pass the blatantly unconstitutional Tenure of Office Act, which undermined the legitimate authority of President Johnson to remove his own cabinet members, merely as a means for the Republicans to protect Secretary of War Edwin Stanton – who happened to be a Republican, of course.
Thus we have this interesting dynamic: even though the Republican Party of Reconstruction bears absolutely no resemblance in terms of social policy to the Republican Party of today, the two are identical in methodology: either version of this party would do anything in its means – constitutional or not – to gain power and carry out its plans (though, based on the actions of the Bush administration, they don’t even seem to bother making any plans any more).
There can be NO DOUBT that Cheney fears for his life.
WEll, without Cheney we would have no Bush. Cheney is more important. Cheesh.
ysbaddaden @ 140:
More like Larry Craig.
Wes @ 45:
I'll bet you're missing good ole Tom Delay right about now, right? And Phil "let them eat cake" Gramm?
Perhaps "Big Dick" Cheney could not be bothered with visiting these veterans just like he couldn't be bothered serving his country during Vietnam. Dickhead Cheney is nothing but a god forsaken war profiteer. Even Gerald Ford wrote in his memoirs that Dickless wasn't very good at his appointed job at the time.
Big Dick survived his heart attacks because Hell is afraid he'll take over. I don't mention Heaven because the veterans who died because of his war profiteering will be waiting for him there.
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 146:
Not Jenny Craig?
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