Obama and McCain Tied In Latest Poll
The trend of the tracking polls hasn't been good of late. Rasmussen, which is a quite reputable poll, has Obama and McCain tied today -- and with leaners (basically people who haven't made up their minds, but are forced to choose for the poll), McCain is up by one point. This is the first time that McCain has tied or beaten Obama in the poll, Obama has always been up. Not anymore:
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Monday shows the race for the White House is tied with Barack Obama and John McCain each attracting 44% of the vote. However, when "leaners" are included, it's McCain 47% and Obama 46%.
This is the first time McCain has enjoyed even a statistically insignificant advantage of any sort since Obama clinched the Democratic nomination on June 3 (see recent daily results).
I've had a bad feeling about the direction of the campaign for the past couple weeks. We've been saying for months that McCain and the GOP would go negative, very negative. No surprise. That is what's happening. Karl Rove and his crew are at their best destroying people and they're running the show now. The latest tracking polls seem to indicate that McCain's negative attacks are having an impact. The corollary is that Obama's response hasn't been working, or at least it hasn't been enough. That needs to change, fast.
Granted, this is a national tracking poll and, as we've written many times, this election is about the states, because it is. I'll be monitoring FiveThirtyEight.com for any movement on the state polls.
For those who think it's too early to be worried, here's some historical perspective: the first Swift Boat ad attacking John Kerry was launched on August 5, 2004.
Cenk Uygur has some suggestions for Obama to break the stalemate:
Instead, right now the only conversation is about whether Obama is qualified to be president or not. I think McCain's ads in this regard have been comical. They have flat-out sucked. But that doesn't matter. Because the only thing that matters is the conversation itself.
If Obama doesn't change the topic, he gives up an enormous advantage he has, which is the American people are grossly dissatisfied with the Republican Party (even the chairman of the NRCC is telling Republican Congressman to run away from their own party). Make the election about Republicans.
Secondly, Obama has not attacked at all. This is the same mistake Kerry made. He could have pounded Bush for all of his mistakes; instead he hardly laid a glove on him because he wanted to run a positive campaign. That's ridiculous.[..]
Should Obama go after McCain for voting with Bush 95% of time last year and 100% of the time this year? He would be an absolute idiot if he doesn't. Who cares about the nuances? That's not what voters remember. They'll remember that McCain voted with Bush almost all of the time, for whatever reason.
Obama wins simply by having this conversation. If the question is -- does John McCain blindly follow George Bush -- Obama doesn't even need to win that debate. He wins simply by having that debate. What is stuck in people's mind is how much McCain voted with Bush.
WHAT?! Obama should be so far in front of McCain. WTF is the matter with people? How much more abuse do you want to take?
not to worry i'm going with the smart progressive to finish strong in the stretch
Gallup Daily (Aug 4, 2008): Obama 46%, McCain 43%
My feelings on what the Obama campaign should do are well known. If we can't beat this wrinkled up, two faced, conceited, lying old bastard and his party of criminals then we don't deserve to win EVER.
What bullshit. One guy gets ahead by ten points, and the polltakers are afraid people will stop paying attention. So the next poll has them tied. Why, oh why do smart folks still buy into this crap?
What you forget is that the blind Reslugs are far from educated, smart people, that are able to think on their own. Remember they watch Faux Noise and suck up their daily talking points.
Wow, the dissonance of the American public is deafening.
I gave up trying to explain American politics to some of my foreign acquittances. Myself I can can't understand how the current president has an approval rating below 30%, and yet a candidate of the same party which is hell bent in continuing the same policies gets almost 50% of the vote.
When are American voters going to educate themselves and stop falling for these attack ads? Hey people, wake up and smell the coffee! Stop making decisions from repeated sound bites that are 90% lie with 10% entertainment factor added in for effect. Sheeshe :(
rider3 @ 1:
He's "different", he's "elitist", he's "inexperienced", he's a "Muslim", he's "too popular", he's "too arrogant"...
Replace all words in quotation marks with "black" and you'll have your answer to the question..."WTF is the matter with people?"
rider3 @ 1:
i'm not smart enough to understand that logic that obama is suppose to be "far in front"...who says that with any
logical backing....math model.....help me out
I smell the diabolical work of the Reptard Election Riggers at hand here!~ Yes, indeed! Watch out for those 50/50 polls - that's when they can easily rig the election without being detected or suspected.
One has to wonder if cell phones were used at all in this poll since this is critical to the average age of the respondent. I've given up using a land phone eons ago and every young voter is connected to a cell phone so if they're using land phones for their survey, they'll naturally get old geysers to respond who are so afraid of losing their god called "money" that they'll vote for McSame even is they have to put a bag over their head to to so.
Let's get a valid poll here using cell phones and polling our youth and then we'll see what the more realistic numbers are. This smells like pure, unadulterated reichwing bullshit to me.
centralilgirl @ 7:
We are a nation of 11 year olds. When are people going to "educate themselves"? You assume they WANT to be educated. Americans are lazy. Education is hard work. Keeping up with current events is hard work. Understanding the world is hard work.
Best to fall back on our prejudices and twisted view of the past. Then things are so much clearer...so much easier.
If this is actually true then America has become the most stupid fucking country on Earth. This would mean, if true, that half of Americans want four more years of Bush or worse ? That American 'believe' the negative adds even when false and have proven to be so ? Maybe so .. especially when a country like yours has 30 percent of the population as OBESE ... 3 out of 10 American as fat a fucking hippos .. and another 40 percent over weight or fat. And this in a country where more people vote for American Idol than the president of the country. My god .. you people are the worse on Earth ..
constituent @ 9:
Here's a clue: Do you believe ANYTHING you read in the print media or on television today? If you do, you're in serious trouble, "my friend".
I have said it before and I'll say it again. Americans are narcisstic, uneducated, self-absorbed dumb-asses! I can't beleive how uninformed we truly are! If Obama loses, I'm going to Canada.(That is if I can afford it, but the way things are going, we will all be living in boxes.)
constituent @ 9:
Grampi has daily senior moments and then tells lies that only children would believe and where is the crappy news network and faux news and morning joe? discussing the latest poop to come out of karl roves a$$.
I blame Hillary.
(There, I said it!)
How many ways can you say "bogus poll"?? Now Rasmussen is trading in their credentials for a bit of blackmail, too, eh?
BOGUS POLL - DO NOT BELIEVE A WORD OF IT.
If the Obama campaign suddenly goes negative, just imagine how the GOP will spin that.
I don't see that the Obama campaign has much choice. They should launch an ad, very loud, very accurate,about how McCain voted alongside W, his record of voting against the troops or lack thereof, his flip-flops, his gaffes, everything, everyday, at all times. Run that for a week and let's see where the numbers fall.
I wish the American public would get a strong reminder what happened in 04. They fell for the "Swiftboat" crap and within 6 months of putting Bush back in office for another 4 they were turning against him.
Are Americans truly going to fall for this crap again? I don't get it. They will be voting against their own financial future as Republicans are all about big business.
People have been voting against their future for years by voting Republican.
P.D. @ 14:
Not me...I'm gonna get me a job in McDonalds! Then I can live in a plastic crate!!
Hmmm...one has to wonder what goods BushReich has on Rasmussen now? Let's face it: His illegal spy program had everything to do with blackmailing those who might be honest which includes congress and every aspect of his administration - the media, and his fascist empire. They have to walk in total "lockstep" or they're exposed.
Like I said earlier, when the Olympics are over and the conventions hit plus the debates, that's when a lot of people are going to take time to pay attention and then they will discover the Maverick straight talker they have been hearing about is nothing more than an elderly man who has trouble speaking off the cuff to a group of people. That along with a few reminders of how like bush his policies are, will be enough to make people see the big picture. Of course there are some who wouldn't vote for Obama if he handed them a million dollars.
Why would anyone believe that? The msm would never lie or skew a poll, now would they?
I live in a red state, and everywhere I go I do informal interviews. I've yet to find one person who admits that they would even consider voting for McKeatingfive.
Even idiots still riding around with W stickers on the back on their Pintos have expressed a pro-Obama viewpoint.............so, duh.
Right about now you have to ask yourself, with the Obama campaign literally awash with ample funds enough to drive home his message and/or respond to McSame's attack ads, WHAT IS HE DOING? Nothing, not a goddam thing,...
Welcome to the next 4 years people. More war, wholesale bankruptcy, destruction of our infrastructure, more civil rights abuse. Obama's not the saviour.
The fact that McCain is even gaining at all just by running negative ads makes me think:
I cannot stand the average American. You, Average 'Murkan Voter, are an flaming IDIOT if you buy into anything McCain is selling.
Hopefully I wake up tomorrow in a better mood. Maybe somebody will do something to bring me BACK to the notion that not ALL 'Murkans are fools.
Obama will still "win" this thing. But will he be president? Depends on whether we let the republiscum to steal it and if the Average 'Murkan Voter will be ok with them stealing it....AGAIN.
Grrr.
Obama needs to get MUCH tougher against McCain. Otherwise he will go the way of Kerry.
Is anyone really surprised that polls indicate we're within a Diebold's margin of error?
Now back to my "Countries of the World" catalog..
osiris @ 13:
do i believe "ANYTHING" yes i do believe some interviews/materials/documentaries...i don't believe obama should or has to be in front maybe i miss understood your meaning told ya i'm not too bright
Does anyone remember hearing anything about the fact that people with cell phones can't be polled ? So many young votes just have cell phones. Are they being left out of the equasion?
Obama's camp should point out to the so-called religious right that McCain dumped his old wife for a newer, younger rich trophy wife. I mean isn't it hypocritical of them to vote for a man who betrayed his wife?
Then there's always the "karmic explanation" of things - like Whoopie Goldberg said - things have gone so far down the $hithole, thanks to the Republicans, that it'd be karmic payback that one should also clean up their own $hit. Maybe people think that a Democrat, especially one this qualified, shouldn't clean up the humonguous mess created by the criminals in control?
They say that every addict has to hit his own "nadir" before recovery can legitimately take place. Maybe we only "think" we've reached the bottom of this dark pit called "self-destruction"? Maybe we have even farther to descent down the rabbit hole?
Liberal@20, LOL! Wow! Shoot for the moon! Plasic. How posh!
pissed off patricia @ 22:
I like you, POP, but I'm sorry. You're wrong.
The GOP need do nothing but give closet racists a "legitimate reason" to vote against Obama, and provide cover for their RACISM.
Now...I said this before...I'll say it again. When this endeavor started, I believed that running Hillary or Obama could be the biggest mistake the Dems ever made. This country, and I still believe this and will continue to believe it until the country proves me wrong, is simply NOT READY to put a woman or a minority in the White House.
Maybe when the next generation reaches voting age...but not now.
The Obama campaign needs to make a laundry list of all of Bush's failures and repeat them like a mantra, using Bush in his many dancing routines as the video backdrop:
The Iraq War - Mission Accomplished, Hardly
Lying to the American people about the reasons for going to war
Failure to "stay the course" in Afghanistan
Guantanamo Bay
Abu Graib
Ignoring Richard Clarke's advice about Al Qaida, which resulted in 911
Scooter Libby/Valerie Plame
Karl Rove
Donald Rumsfeld
Paul Wolfowitz
Harriet Meirs
Alberto Gonzales
The Justice Department Scandal
The housing crisis
The economy
Our weak dollar
Our indebtedness to foreign nations
Squandering the budget surplus we had only to have the largest deficit in history
Healthcare
Our current standing in the world
Social Security (thank God we didn't let that clown invest those funds)
Too many to list - excuse me while my head explodes- please feel free to add your own fiascos.
Bless you, bless you, C&L.
Maybe some of this will finally get through to the Obama campaign.
What McCain is doing is simply using ads to channel ordinary people's ordinary desire to fear or hate or ridicule (remember 7th grade? We're all still in it!), and moving that over to Obama as the object.
And once you're stuck with it, you're stuck. WAKE UP, Dems. Fight back, and hard.
Jerry @ 351:
I learned long ago what some of our American friends are learning now. Seen/heard one politician, you've seen 'em all. They are all lying scheming crooks. Right down to municipal governments (which are nothing more than local business owners who need the cash because their products and services do not compete with anyone).....
Barbara in BC @ 321:
Really! Where? I'd vote for Marxist before I would vote for a Republican.
You don't see anything.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 361:
In fact, I would take Hemlock before I would vote for a Republican.
But if you think the Democrats are any great prize you are sorely misled.
Democracy undermined.
Barbara in BC @ 341:
Corruption that benefits is still corruption.
FreeDUMB @ 363:
That would be the illusion not holding up to the reality and AT LAST the questions.
An interesting thread
Point # 1
In the 2004 electons Bush got approx. 62 millionn votes
Kerry got approx,. 59 million votes.
This translated to Bush Electoral College votes of Approx. 286 and Kerry 250
Very small differences.
POINT # 2
OK. There were a lot of people that did not vote.
People do not change voting patterns on a whim or even if the past government is totally incompetent. Maybe they do. But in the end then government you get is what you get, even if only 51% voted for that govenment.
If you want to vote for an independant or A Green Party candidate that's your choice.
Sometimes I am one of those types.
POINT # 3
When it comes to voting people are totally clueless. Last wekend we had some people over for dinner. At one poi
rider3 @ 1:
how could some one read my mind if only everybody thought like us
jdw @ 340:
yes fuk them all those stupid basterds
ConcernedCanuck asked:
"What did Harper, Martin, or Chretien ever do to benefit the majority of Canadians? Nothing, that’s what."
Chretien kept us out of the Iraq war and I have not got any problems with anything past Liberal governments have done. They were very good. Harper is a creep though.
General_Rennenkampf said:
"Corruption that benefits is still corruption."
That's an illogical statement. Something that benefits the majority cannot be defined as corruption.
Corruption: "The act of changing, or of being changed, for the worse"
Polls don't matter, it's the electoral votes that matter. Obama has a lock on that. The corporate media wants ratings with all this bla, bla, bla about polls, pay it no mind.
SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 366:
JUST TO CONCLUDE
At one point I asked " who do you think will, or should , win the election".
One lady , a staunch right winger ( well educated and well informed) said McCain, but at the same time acknowledged that Bush was a disaster.
Everyone else groaned.
Tom M @ 371:
Agreed!
ConcernedCanuck @ 334:
it is folly to consider our system as 'democratic'... put aside the corruption, the govt-corp revolving doors, $$$$, etc., etc., etc.
in its most basic form, taking out all the dirtiness that is part and parcel of the system, we never had a true democracy. we had/have/will have a representative democracy. that way the "adults" can temper the whims of the "children" (us).
and if you go back to the "founding fathers" you would be appalled at what they considered for the republic: in the struggle btwn jefferson and hamilton. and, hello, only landed, white men could vote. (grain of salt: it was the 18thc)
no, we have been convinced that 'we, the people' set the country's course, but this is about as accurate as declaring that that market is inerrant.
Barbara in BC @ 369:
It doesn't matter how much it benefits, if the methods used to achieve it are evil. If the Mafia protects people, they keep them from being killed, but at what price? Same principle applies with those money-grubbing bastards we dub politicians.
Samson- @ 374:
She's Canadian, she has a Westminister system...with the different type of corruption inherent to that system.
General_Rennenkampf Says:
"She’s Canadian, she has a Westminister system…with the different type of corruption inherent to that system."
Exactly what corruption goes on in Canadian elections? Do tell.
Barbara in BC @ 377:
My guess is backroom deals and palming money. That's universal in every political system.
General_Rennenkampf @ 378:
You think so, do you? You might be right, but not on the same scale! Take a look at the biggest 'corruption and influence peddling scandal' to hit the last Canadian election. The Conservative minister of immigration had to resign because she suggested to a pizza shop owner that she would look into his immigration case if he supplied free PIZZAS to the volunteers at her election center. That's right, in Canada a couple of FREE PIZZAS can bring down a cabinet minister. The Canadian electoral system is ROTTEN TO THE CORE, man, I tell ya.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/parliament38/characters.html
Thanks Pericles, I had forgotten about "Pizzagate". We have limits to how much our politicians are allowed to spend on elections, and they don't drag on so long. Also there are limits to how vile the attacks can be.
OH NO, not the POLLS. They must be right. They couldn't possibly be rigged. That's like saying elections are stolen in America. These things don't happen here, maybe Mexico.
I believe 8-9% of the population moved towards this Alzheimer's driven, flip flopping lying sack of patriotic bull who apparently is "not speaking for the campaign".
I also believe that most American's have more faith in McCain when in comes to energy than they do in Obama; after all, off shore drilling is gonna reap us tons and tons and tons of oil and money and this whole energy thing will be fixed and gas prices will come down. Yep I believe Obama's approach is just to cumbersome. I trust the GOP on matters of oil; they have a track record of watching out for us little guys with energy costs and electricity and stuff.
I believe 13,000 Midwestern Americans and Canadians got ill from Salmonella from Jalapanoes. Them darn, Jalapanoe eating American and Canadian white people that got themselves sick; they should have known better. The tomato lobby sure knew better; they blamed it on Mexico.
I believe McCain does not represent more of the same and indeed is ushering in change; I see a bad moon rising on the right.
Human Cannonball @ 355:
you don't know ANWAR
You know Anwar Sadat?
It just struck me.
If Obama loses, the Western world might actually turn on the U.S. rather than just being disgusted. If the U.S. were nuked, there would be hurrahs in Europe.
People get what they need, and there are a lot of young souls in the U.S. who are clearly seeking the hard lesson. What a pain. That fat lady burbling out her flag-pin question is the kind of simple creature who is going to get squashed by her own immaturity. Too bad the rest of us will have to suffer along with her.
I'm back and forth on the whole, "Should Obama Attack Back" question, and I'm leaning more these days toward, "Yes, if we don't want to get nuked." But then the frog people won't learn a thing.
I just wish there was a real candidate. Whether or not Obama is genuinely trustworthy is a question which is far from having been answered.
Barbara in BC @ 341:
Keep in mind USA is not really a "democracy". The government was formed as a republic and it uses democratic conventions to elect representatives and establish local legislative priorities (bonds, etc). More recent US experiments with pure democracy has yielded a putrid maze of "voter initiatives" as a way to bypass complex constitutional considerations. Look for republicans to put wedge initiatives on ballots across the country e.g. "should marriage remain a sacred covenant between a man and women..." as a way to bring out republican voters. Republicans vote in larger percentages than dems so this will work very well. For sure, our republic has failed to prevent a majority party (republicans) from asserting tyranny (Iraq war, corporate activistist supreme court, search and seizure, torture, rendition, erosion of business regulations, citizen/employee rights, etc) over the minority party. The constitution was designed to prevent the form of government Bush has installed- where loyalty to a single political party (or decider) is valued above all else.
Unless Obama fires up the campaign here at home, he will most certainly lose. He is vulnerable and will not survive a swift boat attack. I'm tired of hearing how we lost because of mean spirited republican attacks. Is McCain is incontinent? What if John McCain is too busy having his diaper changed to defend against a nuclear attack?
The media knows Dems don't show strength so they pick on Dems like bullies. America has started a senseless war, embraced torture, death penalty, we send sick people to die on the street if they don't have insurance, corporate executives gain 10% a year in salary while they strip mine human resources. USA loves watching people get hurt. If the victim is perceived as "weak" all the more fun. As the media cheer leads, they'll happily eviscerate Obama (and you too) if it means $.01 more in corporate advertising.
Rollo Tomassi @ 24:
Who in the hell is running the Obama campaign? Did Shrum get hired again? Based on what I'm NOT seeing from Obama; it sure seems that way.
We have been down this road before. It's hard to believe that we're going down the Tom Dewey model for a national campaign again.
Listen, Obama advisers. Your base is trying to tell you something.
Charles @ 287:
I saw my first "W Bush/Cheney 04" bumper sticker in quite a while the other day. It was on a 10 year old sub-compact POS that was rusted, with dull fading paint, plastic taped over the left rear window, bald uneven tires, and what looked like a family of about eight crammed inside like sardines.
They also had the back covered with religious right stickers. I pulled up next to them and just started laughing. Unfortunately, that's proably eight McCain votes right there.
It would be nice if it were "Dewey beats Truman" but I could be a grandpa, only have a land line, and gave McCain a "0" from 0-9 on desirability in a phone survey last week. Maybe Rasmussen rigged it with selective area codes so there would be something to report? Maybe the mainstream media propaganda is unbeatable? One of my pet theories is that there really is something bent in the current American psyche and people actually want to vote for candidates that are visibly deranged.
It does come down to the supreme court. Eight years of McCain and the republic is dead. We'll have absolute dictatorial rule on the whim of an oligarchy and a society in constant crisis.
OK people, I have an exercise for you.
Don't think of an elephant. Whatever you do, DO NOT THINK OF AN ELEPHANT.
Got that? Good. Now what did you think of? Exactly.
This is what Republicans do. They say things like, "Obama is a Muslim" and it doesn't matter that, in fact, he's not. What matters is that they get enough dumbasses out there thinking that Obama is a Muslim.
Framing the debate is an art. And Obama hasn't been very good at it, but McCain is definitely showing his true, despicable colors by using these tactics. Obama needs to counter attack, and he needs to do it fast, decisively and if he needs to get nasty, then he needs to be prepared to do so. Otherwise, it's over. Don't even bother. Republicans will once again come within striking distance so they can fraudulently take another election.
How's that for a nightmare scenario?
Pericles @ 379:
If they had real Canadian bacon on them, it was worth it!
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 389:
I agree! And I just realized that I pulled a FUX NEWS on everybody when I called her a 'Conservative' minister of immigration. That was when the evil LIBRUS were in power, and she was the Liberal minister of Citizenship and Immigration. *tsk!*
Pericles @ 390:
Right! Liberals are evil pizza eaters.
Laribee @ 383:
It's already starting to happen, but the U.S. is not getting nuked. Something far worse (at least from the american perspective). The U.S. is starting to get IGNORED! With the U.S. military machine bogged down in a quagmire, the american economy about to collapse, and the dollar at an all time low, the U.S. has no more 'hegemony capital' for George Bush to spend (heh heh). Iran is thumbing its nose at the west, the Saudis laughed in Bush's face when he asked them to pump more oil to lower the price, the World Bank drop-kicked Paul Wolfowitz into the shitcan, the foreign currencies and stock exchanges are becoming more valuable than the U.S. ones, and now (to add insult to injury) the European Union have decided to lift trade sanctions on Cuba.
My guess is that if McCain is elected, the world will stop paying attention to the U.S. altogether. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing. I for one, think the U.S. could USE some soul-searching time off the world stage. But it just goes to show you that if you even want the world to PAY ATTENTION to the U.S. after 2008, the only way to do it is to elect a 'rock star' who can at least move T-shirts in Berlin.
Philip Graham @ 82:
How about the Obama campaign hand out checks for 50 cents for a regular car, 1 dollar for a large car, to be paid in 2027, representating the 4 cents per gallon that drilling ANWR will eventually give us.
Obama and McCain Tied In Latest Poll
BS
Who in their right mind would vote for the so called "Maverick or "straight talker." (where ever those idiotic names came from) They are trying to do the same thing to Obama that they did to Kerry and it's not going to work! Who needs 4 more years of Bush!
Barbara in BC @ 373:
Though the votes themselves don't matter as the voting machines will tie in with what ever has been decided for an outcome, and it will be McCain even if 90% of country march on the white house with guns, they will be told they are a minority and "swing votes" and hanging chads made a difference.
Mean while the US and it's people bombs democracy into areas of the world it wants something from ......
BrokenArrow @ 23:
All Obama nees to do is to get his hands dirty a little and begin discussing the infamous Keating Five Scandal which still goes on ..... exposing Botox Cindy's business affiliations with Charles Keating which exist TO THIS DAY would be a beginning. Then factor in the latest bank scandal where John McSame's son had to resign and it begins to resemble a "family business".
No wonder Botox cindy won't release her tax forms! Hah! We've got that Stepford Fraud's number!
The corporate media is doing what they do best....
Turning the 1989 SF 49ers (Obama) vs 1976 Tampa Bay Buccaneers (McBush)
Into Superbowl XXXIV...(Rams vs Titans)
In a world of reality, this wouldn't be a contest...however in that world, entertainment divisions wouldn't be
running the nightly newscasts either...
Bonkers @ 25:
And you all have already brought me back (A little)! Yes, I have been suspicious of fucking polls for a long time now. I mean, if McCain and his puppet masters try to steal the election for a third time in a row, they want to be able to point to polls like this one to reassure us, pack of morons that we are, that the election was ALWAYS close. Hearing some of you voice similar feelings makes me feel like I am not screaming inside of a sealed, glass case.
Damn, we're a stupid country.
Liberal AND Proud @ 33:
I think Pappy meant that the "maverick straight talker will be discovered by all to be the "maverick bull$hitter".
osiris @ 17:
Your right....absolute crap. What they don't dare show right now is all the 3rd party candidates in the poll because, McSames number drop like a rock and Obamas stay the same. Im a republican, and know many other republicans that WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM! period!
Sue @ 29:
Yes, that is true. However, they always back that up with the apathy of young voting age people. Stressing the issue that a war with Iran would necessitate the draft, there might be less apathy and more voting.
"WHAT?! Obama should be so far in front of McCain. WTF is the matter with people? How much more abuse do you want to take?"
While running for the Dem nomination, Obama was all about change, painting Clinton as just more of the same. Now that he's got the nomination, he foolishly began moving right, and validating the Republican talking points. People don't want abuse-- they want CHANGE, but what they're seeing with Obama's campaign is that the only thing he is changing is his position on the issues. Therefore, they see little difference between the two candidates. That's why McCain is hitting him hard on the lack of experience issue, and winning. If Obama is too inexperienced a campaigner to learn from the previous two Dem fiascos, what makes him qualified to lead a nation? He should have stayed with the positions that got him the nomination. I have a bad feeling that he has already blown the election.
I don't believe this for a second. They're trying to create the impression of a close race, because that's what you need if you're going to steal it.
Liberal AND Proud @ 33:
We have a differing point of view, but I don't think either of us is wrong. :)
I think a huge percentage of the people that support Obama use cell phones. Do pollsters contact cell phones? I have not heard of any that do.
Don't misunderstimize the dumbness of the general public, remember, the unthinkable DOES happen, Obama shouldn't rest on his laurels and assume he has it tied up.
Meeka @ 394:
I know plenty of people who will vote for McCain. Nobody ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American people. Man was I proven wrong when I stated (in 2004): "No way will America elect this idiot again."
Put it this way: Obama has to shoot for a 30 point lead over McCain, so there is no doubt this time.
Jo @ 48:
EXACTLY!
CFR media folks, thats why McSame is getting anywhere but I have a feeling these polls are rigged. Believe me I have worked for a pretty rigged poll before.
The poll is just more evidence that the United states of America died a long time go and the rotting corpse simply isn't worth saving. Americans have earned their fate through their woeful stupidity, willful ignorance, cowardice, lack of patriotism, corruption and barbaric warmongering. The world will dump the USA into the same trash bin as it did Nazi germany, Imperialist Japan and the Soviet Union. The pain caused to Americans whether by economic collapse or thermonuclear fireballs will be well deserved and yet will be only a fraction of the pain America has caused innocents throghout the world to suffer.
motorfingaz @ 397:
Whoops, I put my comment in the wrong place it was meant to look like this:
motorfingaz @ 397:
Cuz THAT’S what the average person likes, a black man who fights dirty and hits below the belt. Sure will win those racist swing voters.
Time for the greenies to sack up and say they'll vote for Obama.
Don't kid yourself if we don't elected Obama McCain will win.
Samson- @ 374:
Why stop there? John Adams believed only white men who owned PROPERTY should be able to vote. What a prick. No WONDER they got William Daniels to play him in the movie version of the musical 1776. William Daniels can sing about as well as Ashley Simpson. /snark/
As for the 'nanny state' version of democracy, yes, that's true. Both the electoral college and the senate were designed to temper the irresponsible heathen urges of the stinky, unwashed masses. But personally, I think we can and should get rid of the electoral college system now, and elect presidents by popular vote. The senate should be enough to keep the stink of unbridled democracy under control. ;)
I don't believe the polls for one minute because I know my brothers and sisters are not going back and forth. Latinos seem to know what they want to do, so that leaves one of the three largest groups, that just can't make up their minds.
We are getting hundreds and hundreds of different polling data from these pollsters, but only the ones that serve the right wing interest are the ones, this disgusting media will play around with. They need something to feed their daily spin machine and their excessive, hatred for liberals and people of color.
They know we will be calling for accountability in ALL aspects of our government as well as our Media, not to mention criminal activity they have promoted, will have on going investigative activity, to the point, many will be looking at very long term jail time.
The pollsters, will oblige these lunatics in their last ditch efforts to stop this train,, by feeding them the data, from the desired group of people with the land lines.
I don't understand why it is so difficult for some people to see through what these folks are up too, but the majority of us don't have the time, or the inclination to worry about it. We are on a mission that simply will not be stopped at any cost and Obama is the person of choice, who is the strongest among the two candidates and will be so much more able to deal with the right wing mess, that will surly be left by this administration. The strong among us will have to just carry the weak, to save them from themselves.
They use our media to spin our political process, day after day, as they consistently play these ridicules videos, they freely spin for McCain, who by now should be stone broke, with the number of these cheap recordings he is promoting, that amuse no one but the same old tired gang on the right and these silly bastards all over our TV, thinking they are on to something. You would think they would know by now, that they are not moving any of us from our stands.
No matter what cheap tricks, they come up with, its Obama all the way, especially when we are looking at a 72 year old right wing fool as the alternative.
They let all of us know that McCain cannot even think about winning this election, unless he so call, goes nuclear and negative as he attempts to gain traction with all this racial tension into our political process, that moves no one but them.
They are so dame stupid they don't realize, many of us have lived with so call fear as a natural part of our life and there is not much they can say or do, that will move us.
They know the numbers are clearly on our side and there is so much power coming at them, that many of them are not getting much sleep at all. Just look at the silly bastards as we look up and see Buchanan and Mitchell in the AM and PM. These are the only fools they can trust to keep the bullshit, spin machine going.
If they don't continue this toilet spin, they think is the only way McCain can win this election. They did it before, so it just has to work. They know that they will NEVER get the brown and black votes, so they are going for the voting process with us, only this time we are going to be waiting for their asses.
They need to know that we will be manning the voting precincts, all over this country, and we plan to be armed with everything necessary to stop fraud and any fools that even try to steal an election.
We are now blessed with thousands of people, signed up as poll workers, who will have direct excess of all the data, going into those corrupt voting machines.
We will be counting and tallying the voters by hand as they enter the precincts and will know before we close out exactly what those machines should have.
The few people they claim have all this fear, in their empty heads, you would think by now they too would be on to these people
You would think that people who claim to be from the superior group would be more selective in their choice of people to run a country, that has been simply terrorized and so dysfunctional, for the last eight years, and one of the supreme culprits responsible for this mess is this 73year old man, they are trying to send to the White House, even if he may have the years of experience. At his age, he has simply forgotten, all of what he may have learned and that is clear to most of us, when we view our loyal media personnel, trying to cover up for his ass.
The man has admitted, he knows nothing about the economy, and many of us believe he really does not care. His plan is to keep us involved in wars all over the world and finish depleting what may be left of our treasury and keep his corporate big daddy's, swimming in the big bucks.
There is also plenty of information out, that he is taking money with both hands from the oil gangsters and then stands his old nasty ass all over his purchased media and claims, that Obama is taking the money, when he knows that the only money Obama gets from the oil industry, is from the good employee's who work for these ass holes, and want to see a better way to make a buck.
When you donate money to these campaigns, they demand that you include where you work, but they also name the big time donors, and who the money went too and McCain has gotten so much oil money, you can smell the old bastard through your TV set. That's a fact.
One thing for sure is that if they want to attempt to do this. They are going to be needing a hell of a lot more then the white vote, and I got news for there asses. They will never get it and that they can be sure of.
PS: Just a little food for thought, is that if we go back to June of this year, we can all dig up the comments from McCain, as he talks about Obama on the $100 bill. They we can shut these ignorant ass fools in media up, when we wash their nasty lying faces with more evidence of ill will on the part of their old disgusting lover boy.
osiris @ 10:
I've been voting since 1968 and up until 2 years ago I was polled on our house phone all election cycles and then I canceled our house phone and now my wife and I has not been polled on our cell phones. I think that bodes well for Obama and not for McCrazy! GO BARACK!
Apologists and tea-leaf readers haunt this sight now......if the polls said obama was rightfully twenty points ahead ---- the obama choir would be front and center singing the smarts and brilliance of these same polls. Like it or not --- the better polls are saying something that democrats should listen to and take heed. The obama train is off its track and McCain is staying neck and neck with him --- that should not be happening... the republicans are shit and the white house is fucked in the polls. Soooo how is it possible that the obama magic is not sweeping the nation??? I do not know the answer... but this I know, the obama folk will regret their treatment of Hillary Clinton's supporters and the crushing of democratic voters of Florida and Michigan. It could have been done -- without injustice and obama could have won fair and square......But you just cannot un-ring that bell.......................Al Gore and his arrogrance gave us bush eight years ago... I hope that the democratic party's hubris and obama's does fuck us again......oh well-- here we go
To quote a phrase:
"you people are dumber than a bag of hammers"
If any of you "politically aware" sheeple think we have fair elections in this country you deserve mcsame. Amazingly the sheeple are told these polls represent the gospel truth YET exit polls are flawed. My God, you are DUMB!!!
Obama is leading McCain by at least 10 points, even among working class whites. This is just the opening salvo in a move that will end with the voting machine companies stealing the election once again. They are planting the big lie, and will repeat it incessantly. They are creating out of nothing a plausible excuse they can site as reality for rigging the votes. watch it happen.
your country scares the hell out of me more than all the combined members of the so-called axis of evil
To Obama and his team,
Hit 'em and hit 'em hard. Hit below the belt. Bite. Kick. Fight dirty if you have to. McCain should be an easy target, he's a liar a cheat and a swindler. There's lots to work with. Tear the fucker apart.
We aren't going to win this country back playing nice. Are you serious about winning? Then show it.
WTF!?!?! OBAMA!!! Get into ATTACK MODE!!!
Are ya TRYING TO LOSE this fuckin election?!?!
WTFF!?!?!
Aug 4, 2008
Obama 316 McCain 209 Ties 13
it is all about controlling the debate and the news cycles. when will a dem presidential candidate figure this out. NOTE to Obama's camp. it is now or never because once they plant the seeds and get people thinking you are what they say you are it's over johnie.
it is not negative to point out McSame's 90+ voting with bush co. record.
it is not negative to highlight McSame' s gaffes, mistatements and outright rewriting of his history.
say it often and keep it simple.
Bonkers @ 38:
Our mantra needs to be "follow the polls" and you will connect the important dots to hacking elections. If the pre-polls say one thing and the vote count says another, then the hackers (GOP) have a wee widdle problem. This is why when things went down (Ohio where Ken Blackwell was funneling the results to the RNC server in a bank in Tennessee to be hacked) they had to also hack the exit polls.
The pre-polls and the exit polls (exits particularly) have been the standard for determining the validity of elections for a long time. The Republiscum has realized this and are infiltrating the pollsters now to ensure that their next hack will be undetectable.
They've shot down paper ballots when we KNOW that without a paper trail, our votes will be hacked (a given) so we know where they're going with all of this poll bull$hit.
And I call it bull$hit because that's precisely what it is. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT POLLS CAN BE MADE TO LOOK LIKE SOMETHING DESIRED BASED ON THE CONTENT, TONE, AND ACCURACY OF THE QUESTION BEING ASKED - AND THEN CONTINUED BY SORTING AND CULLING THE AUDIENCE BEING POLLED.
POLLS ARE DOWNRIGHT BULL$HIT AND A CLOAK FOR THE DIABOLICAL EVENTS BEING PLANNED BY THE EVIL GOP.
CatAtomic@44, Very true. The MSM likes to keep it close so they get big ratings. But then again, Kerry lost in 2004. I'm sick of being a pawn in MSM game. The 24/7 news cycle has truly been the start of our downfall.
Jo @ 48:
YEAH! What you said!
I am so fed up with Obama's campaign 'managers' that I can't type straight! What is wrong with them? They have left Obama on his own. What a bunch of wimps. They should be targeting mcshame every time he comes out with a new ad. Instead they seem to be sitting back waiting.....for what??? I get the feeling that the Obama people are pulling in several different directions. Who is in charge? Apparently no-one. Look at what Kerry did on the talk shows Sunday. He jumped all over Clark. Can't these people get their act together. We have one goal and one goal only....elect Obama in November. But this is not the way to do it. Mcshame is so far, way ahead of Obama. When was the last time Obama came out with a 'new' ad clobbering mcshame. Instead when Obama does send a message it is in response to one of mcshame's ads. We just can't keep going like this. Obama needs to get tough. Who in hell cares what the repugs say about it. Up to now the repugs can do no wrong and we can do nothing right. Not a good sign. First thing we need to do is insist that anyone who is out there talking needs to be on the same page with Obama. Not a loose cannon like Kerry. Shut him up and keep him off the talk shows.
CMINCA @ 34
That's a good start and of course, keep reminding the people that:
John McCain = George W. Bush
I don't think anyone would make up statistics for a poll, but I agree that polls mean absolutely nothing right now, and they could easily vary +- 5%.
Wes @ 41:
I can't believe a legitimate pollster would lend their name to such an overt charade myself. We all know the tricks of polling. Sure, they're not polling young people on cell phones and not including all of the candidates. So what do we really have here calling itself a legitimate poll? Legitimate bull$hit, that's what. More reichwing mind control and propaganda.
Do not permit them to contaminate your mind. It's all about mind control right now.
Jo @ 48:
That would mean that the Dems get to be "mean" and that would be a no, no.
After all they are supposed to play the "good cop" to the GOP's "bad cop." Our country has devolved into a divine comedy of 2 parties working for exactly the same "police department" if you may...
We are, in the parlance of our times, fucked.
I'm sure it's also just a coincidence that the Obama campaign has made it clearer than ever over the last couple of weeks that Hillary Clinton will NOT be on the ticket, which, as usual, has delighted Republican strategists and pro-McCain mainstream media no end.
I know how to fix this. Let's get Jay Leno to tell more jokes about what a frigid bitch Hillary Clinton is...and David Letterman can goof on her pant suits...Michael Moore can be outraged again about what a terrible, terrible person Hillary Clinton is to even suggest Obama woud be a weak general election candidate...
obama should react offensively and defensively but these polls mean little...it's propaganda for the media. continue to remind the public a mcBush presidency is just that
4 more years of bush......many of us have said that.
the mcBush campaign/RNC are very sensitive to that attack. with this present economy prior/history models say obama will be nominated as president. that being said he needs to campaign to win not to not lose. after the olympics the gloves must come off. we need clinton,biden and webb....putting the beat down on graham and lieberman
if this poll is accurate (or as accurate at sampling a thousand or so people are trying to use that as some sort of "reality") then it shows the complete failure the obama campaign is having right now.
after obama won the dem nomination something happened to his campaign, not for the good.
this race should not be close. yet the polls say it is. again, the people running obama's campaign are doing a great disservice to obama.
Absolutely right. the ad writes itself: In these tough times, Americans don't need rubberstamp politicians. But last year, John McCain voted with George W. Bush 100% of the time! Same Old Politics? John McCain: 100%! Same Old Bush Policies? John McCain: 100%! Vote for change. Blah blah blah.
P.D. @ 53:
Yes, I remember when the nightly news was a half hour long, and the skimpy soundbites always seemed to disadvantage the Democratic candidate. I longed for wider news coverage.
But now that the 24 hour news cycle is here, it's really the same half hour show, repeated 48 times . . .
Obama has to take a lot of blame himself. After the primary he lost the green party members when he did some major "change in emphasis" with his policies. Death penalty, abortion, and guns. Not really a democrat when it comes to those issues. I'm sure many independents where Hillary supporters and he hasn't done anything to woo Hillary supporters. He thinks that because he's the locked in candidate then "naturally" Hillary supporters would "fall in line." But that ain't going to happen. He's only got thirty percent of them. Then don't even get me started on the FISA thing. Sure the GOP are going to be dirty dogs about it but it doesn't help that Obama is shooting himself in the foot on core democratic issues.
I would agree with some of the comments above about Obama's strategy. Maybe this new poll, albeit it totally bogus, will awaken him. It's very laudatory that he choose the high road in his campaign and I commend him for that intention; however, with the nonsense emanating from McBush's campaign daily (how juvenile can you get - handing out tire pressure devices - that's the epitome of immaturity!), I think Americans would applaud him for taking these freaks on right now. I think people are ready for someone of Obama's intelligence to get a little down and dirty and put these charlatans in their place. I think americans, despite the fact that they loathe dirty politics and applaud Barack for taking the high road, have truly had it. I definitely think that Obama, orally, can emasculate McShame and his cadre of frauds. We know what he will do to McFraud during the debates - he'll make mincemeat of him and his senile brain.
I think it's time for Obama to take McCain on - daily and with intent to expose. It's time for Obama to put on the gloves.
Of late, Obama is looking like a wimp. He's changing positions on important issues and he refuses to go after McCain like he needs to. He is going to lose if he does not smarten up
RATINGS ARE GOOD WITH THE RACE IS TIGHT. CHILL OUT
Fuck!
osiris @ 13:
It's a lie. Who have you talked to who is for McCain?
Even when it's McCain vs. the Antichrist, McCain gets only half the votes?
Tossed the fighter and rolled the dice.
Took a sure winner and may lose three in a row.
The DNC is to blame.
Obama has reacted in pathetic fashion thus far. Unilaterally disarming the left 527's was a real smart thing to do as well.
Thankfully our ground game far outstrips theirs.
Re: polls. I live in Iowa and have NEVER been polled.
Personally, my only hope is mcshame picks a decent VP. Then when he drops dead (sorry, but that is the way I feel) we might have a chance if the VP is not a bush ass-kisser and is a decent human being. Our only hope.
I don't think the Obama campaign wants the job that badly. They sure don't act like it anyway. In eight years and two previous campaigns the Dems haven't learned one damned thing. Same old, same old.
liberAL @ 55:
Obama came out with an ad today talking about how close McCain is to the oil companies as was bush. He gave an excellent speech in Mich today where he laid out his plans for getting us out of this energy hell we find ourselves in today.
Where are Hillary and Bill? I thought they were going to campaign for Obama. Right now one of the best people Obama has speaking for him is Claire McCaskill, she's dynamite when it comes to shooting down the bullshit when anyone brings it up. No one gets away with anything when she's in the conversation.
Samson- @ 61:
This IS illogical then. So the polls MUST be bogus. Connect the dots - everyone I speak to is voting for Obama so where is this bogus 50% coming from??? It's not there. It's a figment of the fascist run media's imagination. It's also what needs to occur in order for the "hack to work" on the election results.
Watch out for those 50/50 polls. They've just tipped their hand on how they intend to hack the election in November. Wonder where they're heading next....first it was Florida (send Katherine Harris a huge thank you card!)....then it was Ohio (Ken Blackwell WILL be seeing prison time for what he did....(see Kucinich's articles of impeachment which indict Kenneth Blackwell of Ohio)....but we can take bets on which state will "do the trick" in November???? I'm saying Pennsylvania myself. Anyone else have a guess???
getalife "whiners" @ 71:
A "winner" that couldn't win. Brilliant analysis.
She lost, get over it.
The flip flop on FISA has pushed a lot of people I know to Barr.
Tyler Durden @ 58:
If we are fucked we are doing it to ourselves. we are letting it happen. Flood Obama's web site with messages. Let him know in no uncertain terms he needs to get on the stick. Now!!!!
Philip@63, you are right of course. Big business like MSM LOVE Repugs and threir big tax breaks. They constantly give Repug talking points and love to spin them. Every channel has dozens of shills from the right and left, to talk and inflate issues. The race issue was a perfect example. Then of course, We have Faux News! Which isn't news at all, just a propaganda shill for the Bush White House and Repugs.
Play the BLAME GAME
Stagnant economy, stagnant wages, excessive corporate profits, excessive CEO salaries, several hundred times growth in the price of oil over the last 7 years, mortgage crash, bank failures, lack of regulation, infarastructure failures, Katrina, National Guard shortages, Army recruitment shortages, dead troops, 100 year war, Bin Laden not captured, Enron...
geeez...I'm a moron and I can come up with talking points!!!
Tire pressure gauges work--remember the tiny band aids passed out in the Republican convention, to mock Kerry's war wounds?
Ridicule works, that's what they're up to.
I'm so angry I can't see straight. Is Obama an IDIOT, that he can't see this?
Fight back!
America the beautiful ..............And the galactically stupid , apparently
I'm not a big Obama fan--he's a (new-wave) Chicago pol, not a true progressive (the bloggers got completed hoodwinked, being too young to know the difference between puffy rhetoric and genuine intellectual passion and political commitment)--but I have to think his self-inflicted wounds of timidity and flip-flopping to the center are being compounded by racism.
That said, there's only one clear solution--and this has been clear along--and that's Hillary for VP, rather than some watered down center-right white dude. (I'm not a Hillary fan, either; but I'm a huge fan of getting rid of these Pugs!!!)
Flowery @ 69:
It's amazing....absolutely no one so I have to wonder what rocks Rasmussen overturned to come up with a 50/50 result? Certainly anyone under 30 would NEVER vote for McPappy. No educated individual would vote for McSame because they "know" about our creeping fascism and how he intends to continue it and no elder would vote for McCrazy because they know all too well the hallmarks of their own senile dementia and witness it every day when they listen to McInsane. So precisely who is supporting McDelusion??
harley @ 77:
My condolences that you know a lot of mentally impaired individuals ...........
That's from Rasmussen... so 3,000 people who choose to pick up their land line phones (grandma and grandpa), and claim that they are registered voters and claim that they will vote this election is what they're going on.
The problem is that large polling agencies do not know if they are contacting registered voters or not. People will often answer that they vote or they are registered even if they're not... its a social stigma.
They weight their results to make up for demographic blocks like 18-30 yo voters who typically will screen out a polling call as well as trying to weight for cell phone usage which is absurd because according to the Centers for Disease Prevention, cell phone only adults are growing at a rate of 20% every six months... so its very likely they're not weighting correctly... also, the more weight means less accuracy in polling.
There's been a huge surge of youth voter registration, and the youth will come out in droves for this election so the numbers are very inaccurate.
If you're into polls, you should find the good local and regional pollsters who actually go off voting records and voting history... as well as make an attempt to contact cell phone users... Rasmussen is not even in the same category as these regional pollsters as far as accuracy.
Paraphrasing John Stewart regarding Obama's speech on race relations in America: "and then he spoke to Americans as if they were adults."
We're not adults. I know that out of the two candidates running for president, one has the promise of being a great leader, and the other one wants us to look at the hole we're in, buck up, and continue digging. I want Obama to win the presidency, but I have an awful, sinking feeling that we're going to be throwing up a little in our mouths come January when we all have to say "President McCain."
For once, we had the ability to look at problems like *adults*, and perhaps consider proactively attempting to head off future disasters, instead of just funneling wealth from poor to rich (socializing monetary losses not by increasing taxes proportionately on wealthy people or holding those people accountable who caused the collapses, but instead pouring our nation's financial solvency into private organizations and giving enormous golden parachutes to the people who caused this mess) ... But I sense that "drill 'till it's gone" is going to be the mantra of this country for years to come.
We're so *incredibly* screwed. I'm voting Obama, but I'm biting my lip in preparation for the endless wars and economic collapse I'm ready to see from Bush term #3/McCain term #1.
MCMetal @ 85:
The institutionalized are let out to vote? How novel.
harley @ 77:
This may be true. But many of us have done our own research and have discovered that the granting of telecom immunity actually paves th way for the telecom whistleblowers to come forward (under immunity) and provide exact details of what the Bush adminstration has done. With these accurate details, criminal proceedings will begin after his departure from office. This is happening right now - whistleblowers providing prima facie evidence to congress.
Buggy Ding Dong @ 72:
The ground game means shit if you're losing supporters, or can't convince the undecided. The ground game is not magic--Obama MUST make the sale, and he won't if he doesn't fight back. Americans don't want wimps for president.
pissed off patricia @ 74:
I liked the Clintons', but the fact is...they're pouting little bitches. Does ANYONE give a shit about this country anymore?!?!?!
Did they include Barr in the poll? I know many of Ron Pauls supporters are backing him. I has to be an advantage for Obama.
MCMetal @ 85:
Obama promised he would filibuster FISA when he was campaign here in March.. I think they are more tired of getting screwed.
bleve @ 86:
What the "grampies" don't realize is their future lifestyle via Medicare and Social Security has been raided by the Bushies! Maybe they're too senile to comprehend it?
Dr. Britney Hussein Matt @ 88:
You would know.
The American people are the dumbest bastards in the inner solar system! Anyone who can't figure out what has happened to them and this country in the last 8 years is a danger to themselves and everyone else! Unfortunately, that's half of the American public!
Bush could line their family up against a wall and have Cheney execute them, and after a couple of days of Karl Rove commercials, the assholes would vote republican again, cursing them damn libruls' all the way to the voting booth!
America: "land of the cluelessly stupid!"
Why is Obama not attacking the highly attackable McCain? Their are so many issues to attack. To name a few.
1. McCain says he's for the troops but repeatedly votes against increased vets benefits funding bills
2. Massive flip flopper, more then any candidate,even was against offshore drilling previously.
3. McCain's campaign manager who directed Obama's "Celebrity" attack ad, His previous client was Arnold Schwarzenegger, a celebrity with no political experience.
4. McCain's continuous gaffes. He doesn't seem to have a grasp on even the subjects he discusses.
5. The Iraq war,their are endless positions McCain takes that are lock step with Bush.
6. Tax breaks for the rich
7. Offshore drilling, no short term benefit,feeds profits of oil companies,won't stop but extends our dependence on oil.
After McCain flip flopped on this the oil companies contributed over $800,000 to his campaign.
These are just a few that serious factual attack ads can be built on.
Understand this: Rove and the GOP don't give a shit about America's future. They don't give a shit about bridging the red-blue divide. They don't give a shit about working to improve America's international reputation.
They care about one thing: holding onto the White House BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY.
If they have to lie, cheat and steal, so be it. This is simply the GOP's scorched earth approach to elections.
Obama is trying to prove that a candidate can win by not lowering themselves. By not slinging mud. By not selling their soul. I wish him the very best, but I'm not sure it will work. Unfortunately for the country, taking the high road could leave us with McC*nt and a third term for Chimpy's agenda.
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