Rachel Maddow on McCain's new PR strategy: Ride Kid Rock's coattails
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Aug 05, 2008 6:40pm
Rachel Maddow appeared on"Countdown" last night to talk about John McCain's joke(?) about entering his wife in a topless beauty contest, and hit on an important point: in order to compete with Barack Obama's rock star appeal, the McCain camp has decided to find places where large people gather for other reasons and bask in the unwarranted limelight.
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OLBERMANN: Also, maybe a somewhat serious point contained in all this malarkey; on stage at Sturgis, he referred to the—preferring the roar of the 50,000 Harleys to 200,000 Germans cheering in Berlin. But in doing that, did he not underscore the fact that those 200,000 Germans in Berlin actually showed up to hear Barack Obama speak, but the 50,000 bikers on the roar of their Harleys, they had shown up at Sturgis not to see John McCain, but to see Kid Rock, Kelly Pickler and a bunch of female wrestlers and other women not wearing tops?
MADDOW: This is a critical and basic difference between the John McCain campaign for president and the Barack Obama campaign. Barack Obama creates large crowds when he gives speeches. John McCain‘s campaign has just figured out to find out where there‘s going to be a large crowd for another reason and to hope to slip their candidate in between other acts.
I guess you can't really blame McCain. When your opponent draws tens of thousands of people who genuinely want to hear him speak, and you have trouble filling the dining room of a Sausage restaurant, you have to find ways to compensate. It's just ironic that they attack Obama's celebrity appeal yet try to emulate it any way they can.
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Rachel's sharp.
Obama is doing the same as Gore and Kerry. Progressives should let him know that some of his major positions are not acceptable, keeping up the anti-war pressure on him and the Democratic Party at every opportunity.
Please, all those people are not there to see Obama only.
McCain took a page out of Obama's playbook and spoke in front of a free concert.
MSNBC is insulting our intellegence with this Obama hackery.
Get real.
Why vote for a presidential candidate?
Answer: To keep things comfortable for yourself.
Keep McSame's feet to the fire, Rachel and Keith... the more that happens, the better to show the mindless masses who think they'll vote for him just who he really is and who he really isn't.
John McMean came to Bakersfield Ca for a 2300 dollar a plate dinner and picfest and they couldn't get enough people to show up! And Bakersfield is so Republican Bush came and walked down main street. Preachers and politicians were gaga over it. Anyway, so they had to change the get together to a lunch the next day.
Whadda woman. :))
that's what i thought was somewhat funny. when i viewed this last night......and i saw that mccain was reading in a bumbly manner... a script for this....wow
Score another one for Rachel Maddow!
getalife "whiners" @ 3:
So those 200,000 just happened to show up to check out the Brandenburg Gate at the exact same time he was talking and had some American flags in hteir back pocket? Or maybe all those people happened to show up at Portland OR to catch some rays on the banks of the river and Obama found out they would be there and crashed their party? Are you really that stupid? Do you really think we are as stupid as the people you hang out with? Move along, nothing for you here.
More oil (gasoline) getting used at and going to/from Sturgis than off-shore drilling would provide?
McCain lives in '74. Women could smoke Virginia Slims. A few were even in congress. They'd come a long way, baby, to get where they got to that year. And even that was a stretch for a POW who disappeared in '67. Worse, his first wife went from beauty queen to invalid while he was imprisoned. He had paid his dues, and then some, and fuck anyone who ever dared say otherwise.
Rachel soooo rocks...she is one sharp lady...now McGramps is having trouble filling ANY events..in Ohio- only 400 showed up to his biggest event..and here in Ohio same problem....so he goes to a Biker event with naked women and drags his womenfolk along just to get a an "audience"...Not VERY presidential....unless you are running for Hog President....
( question isn't a Buffalo Chip the same as a Cow Pie??? jus sayin'......)
So when was the last time McOldguywithwhitehair commander a crowd of more than 100 people without paying them?
VietVet8666 @ 4:
Not buying it. I don't think everyone that participates in our democracy is just looking to maintain the status quo.
Sounded rather muted when McCain was offering his wife to 'flash the plastic' to the crowd.
It sure would be nice to see Rachel take over Morning Blow and his side kick Mika who has never had an original thought in her life.
Rachel is the only reason I watch. The same old Buchanan and his talking points don't faze her. She gives as good as she gets. Quite refreshing. And Ingram and the other hacks on Faux(including Coulter) can't hold a candle to her.
We need more commentators like Rachel Maddow.
Surging Blue Lensman @ 15:
99% is close to everyone. And they don't have to be aware of "maintaining the status quo", they can just be misinformed. Which they are, tragically.
Kid Rock? hmh
I think Ted Nugent might be available to campaign with McSame.
They will pack the house!
Captain@17, your right, Mika at this point is window dressing. Just a bobble-head to make Scarbourgh look less of a dirt-bag.
If Cindy McCain posed topless for the Buffalo Chip contest, John McCain would get the vote of every red-blooded American male in the November election. The exciting possibility of having a First Lady who may occasionally flash her breasts absolutely guarantees my support for a McCain administration.
Oh that's so clever of McC*nt's crew. Guess they're tired of every speech looking like it's being delivered in someone's dimly lit basement.
orcas @ 23:
You'd actually want to see those droopy, wrinkled titties?
"visibly horrified wife"?
I didn't know that's the consensus. I thought Cindy "got the joke".
Nikola @ 20:
Thanks for making my point. "Why" voters vote is answered in their mind, not yours. If they say it's for "change" or a "better future" than that IS why they're doing it. Whether their expectations are realistic or not is a completely different topic.
Keith and Rachel are the best. Smart and funny.
Every week, McCrazy entertains. Now he is reduced to going to biker rallies that feature nude chicks and offering up his wife to creepy, dirty old men. She apparently approves that message too. Disgusting.
calgarylady @ 28:
Viagra doesn't help him anymore so, he was trying to do something she could get off on if one of the bikers would step up.
The Truth Hurts @ 25:
Jesus, if all it takes to be elected POTUS is having women over 50 years olod flashing their boobs while you're on stage, Neil Diamond would be
PresidentKingGod-Emperor of the US of A!"Beijing George just threw us under a bus!" A quote from another Repug today at the Capitol.
Obama's new slogan should be something like this:
"It's like I'm running against a petulant, bratty child. These are the campaign ideas of a 12 y.o. boy, not a 71 year old man. Please grow up, Mr. McCain."
calgarylady @ 28:
Oh come on... Can't have it both ways... Does she approve or is she "visibly horrified"?
Yes, Ron, that does make sense. Cindy didn't seem to be resisting too much.
McAnus is pimping his blonde
It's like waving a magical wand:
Hypnotize the masses
With beer and bare asses
Distract from the fact that they're conned.
calgarylady @ 28:
I dont know of any heterosexual male who thinks the chance to see topless women, under any set of circumstances, is in any way disgusting. I'm sure Cindy McCain could get several million dollars from Playboy for a centerfold spread...even at her age.
Imaginining what President McScootertrash's first SOTU speech would be like.
Is Obama's 'celebrity appeal' going to save us from the evils of mandatory Socialism?
I prefer Haiku
Cindy's tatas flash
Grampa smiles creepily
"Bikers. My voters"
Perhaps she was visibly horrified, but she and the people running McDrool's campaign should have known in advance that this would be a public relations disaster. It's just more proof that her husband shoots off his mouth without thinking of the consequences. He is one scary dude.
mjULTRA @ 38:
I'm just certain you're refering to this type of socialism.
he does smile creepily!
Thanks for clips like this that make it possible to believe there are still men and women who can converse intelligently on the telly.
The Truth Hurts @ 25:
You think Cindy's not got the perkiest tits that money can buy? Kinda like looking at a statue? a kind of unnatural perfection? You know jet-jockey John, the terror of numberless Tailhook gauntlets in his fightin prime wouldn't trade up to anything less than classic?
Andy @ 37, hahahaha. That was hilarious. I thank you.
LongTooth @ 12:
Yeah, sure my friend. Tell that to the sailors aboard the Forrestal when McInsane wet started his engine to mess with the pilot behind him. The fire ball caused a rocket on the plane behind him to fire. The rocket hit another plane and a 1000 lb. bomb dropped off the 500 lb. hanger it was on and exploded. Over a 130 sailors died that day because of this brash action on the part of a "Professional Admirals Son", If they hadn't flown him off the Forrestal to another carrier to treat his wounds the sailors aboard the Forrestal would have killed him. In Navy parlance, he's a fuck-up.
Rachel's comment on the background footage of scantily-clad gyrating ladies ("Okay, that's really distracting") made me do a spit-take.
mjULTRA @ 38:
You already labor under the most sophisticated kind of 'socialism' ever invented: the Corporate/National Security State. And you welcome it, you fuuking, drooling tool, you embrace it. Talkin' your kinda authortarianism. Dismal, slack-jawed dolt...
Rachel's a sheer refreshing beauty. I was however taken aback that she could be distracted by anything- much less a gaggle of bumping and grinding scantily-clads. My dear! Could she be a tortilla flapper?
greezyol-McCaint @ 48:
Dr. Maddow (ph.d.) has been "out" since forever...
greezyol-McCaint @ 48:
your gaydar not workee?
mjULTRA @ 38:
"mandatory socialism"? Is that thew new combo buzzword in republican circles? I guess "Islamo Fascism" is no longer working...
woody, tokin librul @ 49:
Well, then! In this case, the Doctor is 'out'! ;)
Nikola @ 20:
I think the vast majority of the population would just like to do their thing, whatever that might be, and as long as there is not too much interference with their pursuits they go along. I think Dustin Hoffman in Hero gave his son a good explanation about life....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6E75bbW5O8
orcas @ 23:
wow, I would take it as an excuse NOT to vote McCain. Seriously, an old hag showing her tits is more of a threat than a treat to me... but your mileage may vary if you have such lowered expectations.
calgarylady @ 44:
If you haven't seen it yet, do yourself a favor and rent that film! Mike Judge nailed it!
It's no wonder Fox buried it- it shows the target demo of their propaganda channel in a negative light. It ran in about three theaters nationwide. Idiocracy would have sold a lot of popcorn if they'd have advertised it on Comedy Central. All they'd have had to say was, "From the guy who made Office Space." It would've recouped its budget in about three weeks.
I saw some pictures on the web of the topless contest in Sturgis. I haven't seen Cindy neckkid, but she might actuall win that thing if she entered against those biker slags. Especially if she bought a few rounds, I'm just sayin'.
Hey, its worth a shot. It would be the only McCain victory this year.
Kid Rock in Sturgis singing to thousands of stupid drunk bikers and opening for a fossil?
How the mighty have fallen.
And this fuckin' relic repug is neck and neck with Obama in the pols.. I don't getit, I just don't.....getit!!!!!!!!!!!!
mjULTRA @ 38:
not if mccain gets elected he's been in a social cocoon his entire life: military family,annapolis,in the military,disability,congress/senate....collects social security....he'll keep the program going for the capitalists that need/get government deals and bale outs
Whaaa? @ 58:
Dammit!! Me neither, sweets! Guess we can thank those to whom MacKrul refers to as "my friends"- and our beloved fellow Murkin lectorates. Seen "Idiocracy" yet? A dumb and dumber, yet very prescient essay on where our enlightened 'democracy' can take us.
orcas @ 36, you know what I find disgusting ?
A senile old coot who is trying to be the next President of the United States that jokes about bombing Iran, beating his wife, kicking his dog, and then inviting his wife to show her naked breasts to drunk bikers.
Can you imagine the uproar if Obama ever did that ?
seems to me this qualifies mccain for celebrity status...
calgarylady @ 61:
listen to some country western tunes sound familiar
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 10:
Hey Captain Kangaroo, this is just me setting you straight. 200,000 people "just happened" to show up for the free bratwurst, pizza and beer provided by the Obama camp for a three hour long free rock concert featuring two wildly popular groups in Germany right now Reamonn & Reggae artist Patrice.
I bet if you forked out for a free party like that you could get 200,000 people to show up for you.
Barack Obama draws huge crowds wherever he goes and we're to supposed to believe the polls that say he and McCain are tied.
For the Republicans that come to this site and try to sell the hogwash that Obama did the same thing in Germany is hogwash. Everyone that has ever been to a rock concert and has to sit through the opening act of a less known band to see the headliner knows that if the opening band takes too long on the stage that they will be booed. Obama would have been booed off the platform if everyone there showed up for a famous band and then were forced to listen to a politicians speech.
greezyol-McCaint @ 60:
Saw the movie, liked it, but thought it was too farfetched.
But now?.....i'm not so shure!!
mjULTRA @ 38:
Americans and Washington have piled up a whacking debt in the last 8 years.
Someone will,have to pay off the debt. This has nothing to do with socialism.
The Interstate Highways , Fire department and police departments, are in fact socialism , and are a big component of your tax dollars.
The US defense industry . OH LORD , are the biggest government suck ups.
Talk about socialism.
How many lobbyists are working in Washington? Some 40,000, I have read, which is hard to believe.Talk about Socialism.
Are you a lobbyist?
Washingtoin politics ,is all about money and , ' OH LORD', the evils of socialism.
By the way , I not in favour of socialism, but it's rampant is Washington.
SCHRODINGER'S CAT @ 67:
And so is thievery, nepotism, cronyism,dickheadism, hackery, deception, and everykind of money for nothing programs that the corporate shills can dole out....
Nikola @ 20:
VietVet8666 @ 4:
I saw a poster/bumper sticker a while back that said: "Grownups don't need a president". I couldn't have agreed more.
In McCain's defense, it's kind of hard to accuse him of pandering to the family values crowd when he offers up his wife to a boob-filled biker beauty pageant.
So...he's got that.
Rachel has a pleasant smile.
jsparrow @ 64:
Is that true? Well, I'd go see McCain for free booze and food.
jsparrow @ 64:
Thanks.
I did not want to burst his bubble.
Meh. Those 50,000 redneck idiots have the right to vote in the election. The 200k Germans, don't. Required Reading for you boneheads: "Deer Hunting With Jesus" by Joe Bageant. He has a website, too, and he tells you straight up about the class war that's been going on for decades. http://www.joebageant.com . He's a really great writer and he's speaking truth to power.
You people need to embrace the rednecks, educate their children, and fight the dipshit "local businessmen" for control of your country back from this present postindustrial feudalist nightmare.
But, of course, you won't. Because you think THEY are stupid and bad and WE are smart and good. If you keep your ideology and mythology intact, the revolution will come, and they will choose a side and it won't be yours. OOOPS. You lose.
How is someone named John Sidney McCain III claiming someone else is elitist?
A POX on you Rachel and you too Keith. I've spent years not having cable. You two may be the one reason I'd change my mind and get it. Please don't be soooo smart that I'll have to break down. Please!
As a matter of fact the 200,000 people did show up just for Obama.
Now as for that corrupt repuke McBush 50,000? more like 4,000. The kid rock and spears crowd are exactly like that of McBush.
orcas @ 23:
You've got a point there....
Cap Jones @ 57:
Kid Rock is considered, or was ever considered, mighty?
abarts @ 80:
Migthy sucky?
i dont know.... some bare MILF tittys.... i could consider voting for Viagra John "the bush republican" McCain....
ok.... not really
"...the McCain camp has decided to find places where large people gather for other reasons and bask in the unwarranted limelight."
are you trying to say that rachel is insinuating that mccain wants to enter his wife in the sturgis style event brcause she is large? where specifically is she large? i'm betting it's her butt. my niece says thighs.
This is a step down from Bush's appearances at Nascar events.
look who's the celebrity now
greezyol-McCaint @ 48:
I think Liberace was gay, too. Who thought that insinuating Rachel Maddow could be gay would be a winning strategery for undermining her credibility? The naivete of straight people is almost cute, in a dumb as dirt kind of way. Still, points for colorful language.
WHEN will this woman get her own show??? She's a gem!
After the concert, John McCain and Kid Rock got into a fight at the Waffle House over who was going to leave the tip.
It did seem a bit incongruous that McShame would be speaking at a rally (in all senses of the term) in Sturgis at the annual biker convention. Maybe not too incongruous; after all, the late Malcolm Forbes turned up one year with Elizabeth Taylor in tow (or on the back seat, at least), and that was the biggest thing that had happened at Sturgis until then. But Forbes was a motorcycle enthusiast; he drove a bike. I can't imagine McShame on a bike, much less Cindy. And as for having the latter run in the beauty queen contest, I mean, how silly can you get? She'd be competing against women young enough to be her daughter. The notion that she'd be using a prop -- a dildo, for all practical purposes -- is similarly absurd. It is demeaning to women and makes Cindy look like the door mat she probably is. The event simply shows how pathetic McShame has gotten. What's he going to get out of that stunt, a dozen or so votes?
so lets see... Obama draws thousands, McMoron draws ten's. Obama draws in millions of donors donating small amounts, McSenile draws thousands donating large amounts. The multitudes seek out Obama, while McIdiot seeks out the multitudes (biker conventions? really...). Over 70% of the population repudiates the Bush regime, which McSame parrots, yet the polls tell us this race is close.
check out the Bilderberg Group, Tri-Lateral Commission, and Council on Foriegn Relations.
Then it will make sense.
This just in:
McShame will be speaking (piggybacking) at the upcoming Star Trek convention in Orlando.
I heart Rachel. It was adorably cute how she got flustered when they streamed the writhing rednecks on the screen as she tried to make a point. I agree- give this woman her own show- I'm tired of watching all of Countdown hoping she will make an appearance!
Ok ok ok...you all adore the ooooh so cute rachel M; lord yes she does have spunk....But for me she is never surprising.....always gonna go after McCain and ALWAYS gonna defend the chosen one oooooobama. Throw any question up and you know where she is going to stand and argue. How does that make her different? She just is on your side -- that is all.....and give her --- her very own show, she would be better than chris M or fucker-tucker. obama/Rachel 08??????
Ride Kid Rock's coattails? Holy christ almight fuck it took me about ten passes to parse that phrase. I think I might be getting old.
Steven Strauss @ 86:
Yes, yes, dear- all agreed- Just sorry you didn't recognize I was divining somewhat the same point in my own rather silly and sarcastic way! Kisses ;)
I love Rachel Maddow. I would love to see her with her own show after Olbermann. What a combo that would be. Dan Abrams just doesn't do it for me. I think he's professional and a good speaker, but there is something about him that is just not appealing.
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