Tenet forgot that Iraq's Intelligence Chief Told Them Iraq Had No WMD
Following up on the Ron Suskind bombshell in his new book, I think the Medal of Freedom winner, you know -- the Slam Dunk King -- wouldn't forget this kind of information.
SUSKIND: What we now know from this investigation is that a secret mission was conducted in which a British manager, intelligence agent, met with the head of Iraqi intelligence in a secret location in Amman, Jordan. And what the Iraqi intelligence chief told the British-and essentially the Americans, because we're all in this together-is that there were no WMD in Iraq. And what that meant is that we knew everything that became so obvious by the summer after the invasion. And the president made a decision essentially to ignore that intelligence...
NPR: We have called key players in Ron Suskind's account...George Tenet says the Iraqi failed to persuade, and a White House spokesman adds that any information the Iraqi may have provided was, quote, "immaterial."
Jonathan has much more in the post.
Well...guess I'm just a cynical bastard....but big deal...is this goin to change ANYTHING?!
does this revelation mean someone will go to jail...don't think so.
This administration is just so crooked on every level...it really does boggle the mind.
Hmmm, which almost implies that there was some information supplied and that there's some truth to the book writers claims.
I pray for this persons life...
It's almost as though there was an agenda beyond the health and well-being of the Amurkin people.
liberalMcTireGaugeO'JusticeNmoderation @ 1:
True Dat.
Nothing surprises us and Nothing will continue to get done. No one will held accountable for anything. These latest revelations no longer 'shock and awe' even this administrations harshest critics.
Let's just clean out this criminal political party out of America's House and start over on Jan 20.
It's the best we can hope for at this point.
YouCantHandleDaTruth @ 2:
Damn, that's sad...when someone tells the truth about anything regarding this administration...they might just get renditioned right to Guantanamo Bay...what a bunch of goddamn fascists we have running this country.
Chico Hussein @ 4:
It shouldn't be that way...we should be seeing them standing trial for their crimes...maybe we'll see them sweating it out at the Hague one day...but I doubt it.
I think the White House understands materiality the way Alanis Morrisette understands irony.
dammit I want EVIDENCE!!! I already know they lied us into war.
I just don't know if I can visit this web site any more. It is just too depressing to read day in and day out what these thieves and liars and criminals are getting away with. Just too damn depressing!! I mean I am really ready for some serious pharmaceuticals... except I can't afford them. :^(
oh that "SELECTIVE" bushie memory disease strikes again...
whats the name of it? oh yeah.... TRAITOR-SYNDROME.
Too be fair the Iraq’s Intelligence Chief Told Them Iraq Had No WMD we have no WMD's
We as in the CIA.
Off topic but Rick Davis must have really pissed off Andrea Mitchell because she is giving Carly Fiorina an earful about McSame’s bullshit. Andrea is calling her out on issue after issue.
Ok here's the defense for Tenet he needed Adult Supervision and without it mistakes were made and no one is at fault. Ok so thousands of soldiers died based on lies and ok we're in a recession because the our President stolen from the taxpayers. Now we need Newt back to give us a contract no one knows about and of course bring back his Family Values. He had a mistress while married and then dumped the wife for the girlfriend. Powerful man get the woman and now Newt's looking for a new younger woman and needs the job at the White House. Look Newt says America can't deal with a Black as only white men can be President. Now as for McCain he's lost it and his mind is gone. Newt figures he's white and ok held top jobs and is willing to commit crimes for the GOP and Oil Company, plus he needs a new woman. Now as for Hillary she will be called in when we hit rock bottom and yes it will be that call in the night. American can only go on with a White Male President nothing else will do.
reminds me of the old Steve Martin routine where he "forgot armed robbery was a crime...."
EXCUUUUSE MEEEEEEE!
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 9:
Try the local skateboard parks.
They can sell you some krazy stuff.
Phil @ 7:
its_me_ya_krazy @ 10:
The movie Dogma showed the best reason why not to listen to Alannis sing.
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 9:
Fer crissake, Captain, don't leave the ship yet. We've only hit one or two huge icebergs and the Pelosi Band is still playing and I heard Harry's Hideaway is still open. Shit, take a few deep breaths, put on your life jacket, and get ready for a bumpy trip.
Oopsie
Phil @ 7:
I think the White House understands materiality the way Alanis Morrisette understands irony.
The movie Dogma showed the best reason why not to listen to Alannis sing.
Once again Reslugs don't require a brain to be habitually, deceitful criminals and liars.
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 9:
Try some Captain Crunch.
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 9:
That's "Crooks" and liars.....
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 9:
Pfffft forget about pills Capn!
Just find ya some good green nugs and that will do wonders for your angst.
off-topic a bit ...
Cross Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty's name off of McSame's short voop list.
Today, Pawlenty actually called Obama's message ... POSITIVE !!!!!
CUT HIS MIC !!!!!
CUT OFF HIS @^#&*ING MIC !!!!!!!!
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 9:
Captain Bitter Whiner Husein Kangaroo @ 9:
ysbaddaden @ 15:
Hey, a prescription for Prozac is only $4.00 a month at Target. It could help, especially if you don't mind it killing your libido...
Oops, sorry about the duplication......
Have heard(did not actually see/hear) that on NBC this morning, Ron Suskin was on
and he is sticking by his story; even tho allegedly the two sources he used pertaining
to the "fake letter", have denied and/or refused to substantiate Suskin's written words
in his book. Suskin says he has "them" on tape.. Wonder which party will change their
story first? That is, Suskin or the two CIA operatives.
Chico Hussein @ 23:
I meant 'veep', but maybe it is 'voop'.
JudyLou @ 25:
I blame the prozac, lol!
doggiebobo @ 26:
Well...I got a feelin someone's gonna get disappeared if the don't change their story.
Most Americans just don't care. They don't care because they don't have the attention spans to grasp the facts. Reality TV is much more satisfying than reality because the payoff comes within a half hour. Watching the network news (I say news in the lightest of terms) you would never know we have almost 200,000 American troops fighting in the Middle East. Just like you wouldn't know that well over 4000 have died since the media agreed not to really talk about death tolls or show military conflict, or caskets.
Americans can be easily swayed by factually untrue political commercials because they will never know they are factually untrue. They only remember the simplistic talking points driven home by the same 9 or 10 talking heads and the same 9 or 10 'experts' that ever appear on TV.
Because Congress never has really investigated the White House it will be very easy for Republicans to convince the American people that Congress is wasting money and time if Congress ever did start investigating. People just want all of this to go away and the best way for that to happen is to pretend it never actually did happen.
The most guilty party for the last eight years are the American people. That's the price of Democracy. For it to work correctly you can't just live it, you have to participate in it. Not enough people do that.
liberalMcTireGaugeO'JusticeNmoderation @ 29:
Suskin's shrink is already forging documents saying that he has been 'suicidal' for some time now.
Still, the same stories over and over again... I'm even tired of all the lies
Bottom line:
Why isn't Bush and Friends impeached?
You know what, don't even answer that question just realize what F*cked up leaders we have in this country.
So much for the notion that "congress saw the same intelligence" that the Bushies saw. What am I saying? Only an idiot would have believed that in the first place.
Chico Hussein @ 31:
Now that was a good one!!!!!!
Isn't the author's name Ron Suskind? Not Suskin. Or am I just being picky?
liberAL @ 35:
No, not being picky...YOU are correct in the spelling. Sorry..
Trawled Alien @ 30:
Sorry, that dog don't hunt. The most guilty party for the last eight years are the American people.?? No sir. Not on your life. Don't try to pass off the heinous crimes this administration has committed on the American people.
"So?" Now what?
Who's next in line from the Bush crime family to be rewarded FauxNews punditry?
Tenet forgot... 'Forgot'..... Oh well then, that just fucking explains everything.. No big deal, don't mind the lives and money spent... time to move on right??? Sheeesh.... What a bunch of... I can't even cuss about this stupidity anymore... Lame isn't even in the ballpark in describing this trainwreck of an administration....
LiberalMcTireGaugeO'JusticeNmoderation@1? Ya nailed it....except my mind is sooo tired of these asses it can't be boggled anymore... What next??... Rove finally goes to congress just to tell em, 'the dog ate my homework', then gives the big middle finger salute on his way out the door???? Fuck it... Just fuck it....... JD
tenet: it's a slam dunk
Tenet is a war ciriminal. Incompetence and stupidity is no excuse.
Chico Hussein @ 4:
Call Pelosi's office and DEMAND impeachment. The number is 1-202-225-0100. Then donate $5 or more to Cindy Sheehan's run to replace Pelosi. She would get the job done.
If the world court does not convene and bring these murderers to justice, then justice does not exist in the world either!
Bush and his entire administration perpetuated a lie that resulted in the deaths of thousands of our servicemen and women, not to mention the tens of thousands of Iraqi citizens killed and millions of people displaced from their homes and billions of dollars in damage to their sovereign property. All this was done in the name of big oil and for the sake of corporate greed!
And, we called Saddam to the bench for his atrocities, found him guilty, and trust me, Bush cheered when he was hung. It is now time to call Bush to the bar and force him to testify, and if found guilty, he too needs to be hung!
I don't support the death penalty, but in this case, I WILL MAKE AN EXCEPTION!
You know, when I look at that picture of Tenet, I think MAFIOSO. He really looks the part. I also think FASCIST.
Tenent thought the invasion would be a slam dunk because he knew Iraq didn't have any WMD......or an Air Force.......or a Navy...or any long range rockets......or.............What he didn't count on was the fact that Iraq had 25 million people that didn't like being invaded. The hubris of our leaders and many other Americans, is that they don't possess the ability to see past their own noses, or understand that other people have their own pride and nationalism. Not everybody wants to be an American.
Moon @ 46:
And yet, when you try to explain that to them, or ask "what gives America the right to dictate policy globally?" They question your patriotism...
The Republican c**ks****r Administration is going to get away with Federal crimes, and they committed more federal crimes (such as destroying evidence) to do it.
As everything comes out in the end. I have made it clear to my 16 year old son to watch and pay attention to everything that is ultimately revealed about this. I am hopeful that he and his peers will ultimately learn the truth, very likely long after I'm gone.
Whaaa? @ 34:
hehehe...it would be funnier, though, if it weren't so serious.
Alright, maybe I'm late to the party, but I've had it. These guys need to go to jail. We need to support Dennis Kuchinich's call for impeachment. I don't give a rat's ass if it's an election year. These guys need to go -- NOW.
Chico Hussein @ 31:
After he is suicided we will learn that his shrink isn't actually a shrink but more like a social worker. Absolute no disrespect meant to social workers.
Trawled Alien @ 30:
Please, quit blaming the victim.
Jo @ 37:
Well...he does have a point Jo...we are complicit by our very INACTION to throw these bums out. But you make a good point too...this administration IS guilty as sin, not only for what they've done to this country, but to the rest of the world too...the middle east is screwed up for decades due to our meddling, the planet is screwed for centuries due to our insatiable lust for oil.
These damned crooks. Unfortunately, chances are low that this will go anywhere. I have to hand it to the Repuglican party....one thing they are very good at is lying and covering up their crooked actions. That's why I'm quite concerned about Obama.....these Repugs will lie, cheat, twist stories, in fact make stories up, and go very negative on him in the coming weeks, and unfortunately, people will believe them.
Impeachment is just about getting the Boy Fuhrer out of office but eliminating the pardon possibility on the impeachable offenses.
Impeachable offenses which are LEGION.
Nancy Pelosi be damned.
Proofread proofread proofread!
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 55:
YouCantHandleDaTruth @ 2:
That slam dunk thing can be taken two ways. In the book, I believe it was one of Woodward's books, he describes the scene where Tenet is laying out for bush the proof they have (or have created) that Iraq has wmd. When he's finished bush asks something like, Will it convince the average Joe that we should go to war? At that point Tenet says, it's a slam dunk.
I think Tenet was telling bush it would be a slam dunk for him (tenet) to put together enough bs to convince the American people, not that he had enough factual evidence to do it.
55 Alice X -
Impeachable offenses which are LEGION.
I thought that was the Gadarene Swine.
Now that's what I call Pork Barrrel politics.
EJG @ 43:
Pelosi and Reid have proved majorly incompetent and impotent to stand up to this administration and their respective Republican peers. George W. Bush may go down as one of the worse presidents in history, Pelosi and Reid will join him as two of the most ineffective leaders in Congress.
earl @ 57:
Why is his fingers pointing like Charlie Chaplin's tootsies?
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 51:
Or a drug addict, working as a social worker.
No disrespect intended for drug addicts.
So why is that people that are the target of high profile investigations, commit suicide by shooting themselves in the chest? Isn't a head shot more common? Wouldn't a chest shot hurt like heck?
ysbaddaden @ 61:
theWalrus @ 41:
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to get through life son.
But it sounds like my auto-biography (ghost written of course.)
earl @ 64:
DHSmd @ 14:
I thought the same thing,but these scumbags didn`t forget squat.They planned this frome day one.
And yes,it is very depressing that these criminal vermin will most likely get away with their murderous treason,but "It ain`t over till it`s over."You never know. Miracles do happen.
So, Tenet perjured himself everytime he testified before Congress. Not to worry, Pelosi, Hoyer and Reid will protect him, too.
Paul @68
They have to because Bush has dirt on them from the illegal wiretaps.
Jordanians definitely cannot be trusted. An immigration lawyer in Austin, Texas once told me that he tried to represent ten Jordanians in an immigration case but that they didn't hesitate to commit perjury and were such liars, he had to wash his hands of the whole affair.
Here's a question for an international attorney:
With all this "evidence" and innuendo floating around about Habbush and the proof that Saddam didn't have WMD, could Saddam's family, what's left of them (how convenient) sue W and/or the United States?
I'm just asking.
I no longer care what the reason for Pelosi's "off the table" stance on impeachment must be; we need to start impeachment of Bush & Cheney so that the history books will forever show that the American people were fed up with the administration's criminal activities and impeachment was the ultimate result. If we don't start impeachment proceedings it will all be swept under the historical rug. We need to let our future generations know that these criminal activities by the Republicans were not acceptable by a majority of the American people. Do we want our grandchildren, great-grandchildren and all future generations believe we were so stupid to allow Bush & Cheney do this to the American people without consequences? Don't let Pelosi write this page in our history.
Alice X - (Chomsky Nader) - status quObama - change you can pretend in - @ 56:
I was about to correct you.
ysbaddaden @ 59:
Legion as in many.
Gadarene Swine as in: The Gadarene Swine Fallacy
R.D. Laing and the Politics of Experience.
As for W's impeachable offenses being a topic of pure relativism, I don't think so.
Impeaching George Bush is a Constitutional imperative!
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Hmmm, which almost implies that there was some information supplied and that there's some truth to the book writers claims.
I pray for this persons life...
Damn, that's sad...when someone tells the truth about anything regarding this administration...they might just get renditioned right to Guantanamo Bay...what a bunch of goddamn fascists we have running this country.
Really? Renditioned to Guantanamo Bay? Does anyone know if the prisoners there have access to the Internet?
.....Well…I got a feelin someone’s gonna get disappeared if the don’t change their story.....
Do prisoners in Gitmo have access to the Internet and telephones? Just curious.
.....You know, when I look at that picture of Tenet, I think MAFIOSO. He really looks the part. I also think FASCIST......
To me, he looks exactly like a nasty boss I had at IBM. This guy was German but his family had fled to Cuba before they came to the USA. At the time he was in charge of my office, he was on his second battlefield promotion because he was the kind of boss who enjoyed making trouble for people and nobody liked him. Eventually, of course, he got forced out.
.....They had no problem believing everything ‘Curveball’ puked.....
Did you all see the picture of Curveball? Isn't that hilarious, LOL? A "real" picture of Curveball.
***BREAKING NEWS***
This is really huge folks. Sorry to interrupt everyone in their bickering, but investigators have been able to locate the actual letter that Habbush allegedly wrote to Hussein back in July 1 of 2001 AND the actual letter that Bush wrote to the CIA asking them to forge the letter. OMG this is HUGE folks!
http://www.236.com/blog/w/lee_camp/the_forged_cia_note_to_saddam_8152.php
It's all starting to unravel. Pass the popcorn.
.....Suskin’s shrink is already forging documents saying that he has been ’suicidal’ for some time now.....
Gee, another American who needs a Shrink? Imagine that. In Italy all we need is a good Mediterranean diet, a little Vino, lots of sunshine and la dolce vita.
74 Alice X -
Time is relative
It always drags slower when spent with relatives.
Centrocitta @ 82:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXNApZ2ALiQ
DHSmd @ 14:
He was framed. That was actually his cat, wearing his bunny ears.
Bubba @ 80:
I love it. :)
Weaseldog @ 86:
Wife wanted to know why I fell on the floor!
.....You know, when I look at that picture of Tenet, I think MAFIOSO. He really looks the part. I also think FASCIST.....
But Tenet had such an affable personality, it's hard to believe he's really the bad guy.
doggiebobo @ 26:
This is worth watching. It reminds us of the early stages of Watergate.
Nancy has also changed her dance about why she won't impeach...'cause Bush won't cooperate. Could mean something.
Wasn't Democrat George Tenet a hold over from the Clinton Administration?
Yes, George Tenet from the same school as Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.
Cindy McCain is 53 years old, but you wouldn't know it prior to her facelift.
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/09DK1MJg5Cexr/610x.jpg
As I've said before, Tenet should be thrown into a wood chipper along with his medal. The man is a liar and his lies have cost this country thousands of our childrens lives. While we're at it you can also line up darth Cheney and Bush along with Rummy, Feith, Miers, Bolton and Gonzales. These people are worse trash that has ever stepped foot inside the beltway.
Andrew @ 92:
Not trying to step on your toes, but we MUST include Perle, Wolfowitz, & Bremer
on the list.
I guess he was part of the conspiracy that lied us into an illegal war???
91 Kerplunk. Pasty Whites don't age well, nor do they enjoy longevity. Thin skin does not provide enough protection for the organs.
Bill Clinton is a pasty white. He just made it out of office when his health problems began in his mid-50's. McCain is even more pasty white than Clinton and much too old to be president. All Americans should reflect on this.
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