Ben Stein has officially lost it
By SilentPatriot Wednesday Aug 06, 2008 9:10pm
So according to political hack Ben Stein, Barack Obama is responsible for the Paris Hilton "response" ad, and the hotel heiress is not merely a socialite party girl, but a bona fide hard core porn star (he knows! he's seen the tape!) and a little "tramp" who "isn't even close to being pretty."
Now, this is perfect. First of all, Paris Hilton was a total nobody party girl in West Hollywood until she and her boyfriend made AND then "someone" SOLD a hard core video of Paris Hilton having sex. So basically, she got her start as a porn star. And she's being trotted out by the media barons to smear John McCain, as brave and patriotic a man as lives in this nation. This little tramp, who isn't even close to being pretty, is belittling a man who spent six years in brutal captivity for defending his country.
Paris, get this: in modern day America, we don't mock people because of things they have done that are unavoidable and not in any way blameworthy. We don't make fun of blacks for being black. We don't make fun of women for having breasts. We don't make fun of old people for being old. This is uncool from any source. It is downright disgusting coming from a porn star -- and not a very good porn star at that (yes, I have seen the tape). And we especially don't like being told how to vote by porn stars. If this is the best the Hollywood pals of Barack Obama can do, maybe John McCain has more of a shot than I thought he did.
Wow. So not only is Ben Stein psychotic and petty, he's a creep, too.
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He's officially lost it now?? Methinks the C & L staff is a little bit behind the times on this one. Ya'll do great work, but still...he lost it around the time he appeared in Ferris Beuller's Day Off, much less before appearing in Expelled.
"belittling a man who spent six years in brutal captivity for defending his country."
Where was Ben Stein when the GOP was smearing and swiftboating John Kerry?
He lost it now? Um.
Ben Stein is a creep because of so many things, not just his inclination to publicly trash girls in the voyeuristic porno tapes he jacks off too.
man when is this dude going to run out on his 15 minutes of fame.........totally bores me to death
Uh, aren't Paris Hilton's parents major GOP donors?
Ben Stein, or B.S. as he is known, is an unrepentant Nixon apologist and criminal as well as a Creationist tool.
His level of morality pales beside a common porn star.
Lol. This is rich. McCain first exploited Hilton, and now she's the bad one?
i bet he's so wanting to give her a spanking right now. bad girl, bad girl!
Why is this moronic doofus being given a soap box?
Oh... it's the American Spectator.
[Never mind.]
Where was Ben Stein when the GOP was smearing and swiftboating Max Cleland?
Contrary to Stein, the tape came out AFTER she was a celebrity, and perhaps only BECAUSE she was a celebrity. Aside from that celebrity connection, the tape only seems like evidence that aliens have sex.
I'm not calling it a comeback but I dont understand why CNN invites this Zionist on to present his anti-Muslim, ant-Arab, anti-Palestinian views all the time.
He reminds me of Liebermann.
After Ferris Bueler, it's been all downhill for this silly little man.
"she isn't even close to being pretty"
Has Ben Stein looked in the mirror? Why is it it seems the ugliest men are always the ones critiquing attractive girls? I've seen north ends of south bound mules that look better than this Ben Stein.
What's that he's wearing on his face btw? Looks like one of those gag glasses with the fake nose and eye brows less the mustache. http://www.123rf.com/photo_2125753.html
Is Stein seriously shooting someone down for their looks? If that's not the shit calling the toilet 'ugly', I don't know what is.
Andrew @ 5:
Might be were.
Ruthless People @ 2:
He was helping. The swiftboaters, that is.
Ben Stein is a self-agrandizing, pseudo-intellectual for whom no one with an once of sense would show one centillia of respect.
And he looks like the corrupt warden from Shawshank Redemption.
Look up "HOLIER THAN THOU" in my new Republican Guide to No New Ideas... and you find Ben Stein, Sean Hannity, Laura Ingrahm, and Bill Bennet. (Hannity just got bumped out of first place.)
Wow. Stein is super-fucking-pissed that the whole negative attack rollout by the McCain campaign got kneecapped and made complete fools of by Paris Hilton.
What can one say but: L O L
Benny doesn't seem to know that McSame attacked Brit and Paris first.
And while I don't like either of them they did nothing to be attacked by him in such a mannor.
I can see why the comments about McCain being old struck a nerve.
from the spectator site: "ben stein is a writer, actor, economist and lawyer"
Writer? : surely that drivel posted by him doesn't count as writing.
Actor? : You're kidding right!!
Economist? : LMAO!!!
Lawyer? : I have no doubt after seeing his show and writing abilities he'd make a fine lawyer and would be in the same strata as say oh, I don't know Dr. Phil? Hope the Dr isn't offended by being lumped with benny boy.
What an asshole! Hilton would never have said anything if McSame did not drag her name into the stew in the first place!
As a disabled Vietnam Veteran what I'd like to know is "what exactly" makes McSame a hero and a super patriot? In my book he's a jet jockey who fucked up, got shot down and then captured . . . and that makes him a hero? It makes him a victim and another just disabled Vietnam Veteran of the Vietnam War, but a hero?
I guess to a blow hard talking head who does not know about the military this asshole sees a hero in McSame in the Repuke world everything is backwards where "lies are truth" and "war is peace!" "Fuckups are heros!"
Ben Stein, irrelevant. Paris Hilton, irrelevant. John McCain, relevant. McCain signed anti American propaganda. He capitulated.
I'm sure the GOP would let nothing stop them from destroying Obama's life if the shoe was on the other foot..
I can hear Hannity already screaming his lungs out.
He's a Traitor, He's a TurnCoat. He's ......UnAmarican.
Their hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Gee he's alive? I thought he was an automaton. By definition I guess he is. His sense of humor rivals a tree stump, but the fact that he reacted at all says Paris must have hit one of his remaining nerves. No not that one!
Okay. By his own admission, Ben Stein has seen the video, but, to be fair, we don't know how many times he's seen it.
He may just be the foremost authority on Paris Hilton's porn activities.
sounds like ben stein was a draft dodger....that's the only way to make sense of his irrational adoration/worship of mccain.......
sheesh...
Ben made sure he got the Paris Porn Tape for himself. Now it was McCain who talked about Paris but Ben feels left of and needs some money. Look he has seen Novak retire so he's looking to take over his jobs. Ben should be careful of the Hilton Family. Now is been looking to pay Ashley for her services of 2500 hour. Ben is like all the rest all talk but check his back ground and you'll find he's just as dirty as his GOP friends. Checking Ben's background he supported Larry Craig and seems Ben is covering up his little secrets. Yes he is married with a child but what's interesting is he married the same woman twice and has two homes. It's getting common for these guys to marry to hide their secrets. It's so easy to just tell the truth and get over it. Now one could question was it Paris or her boyfriend Ben was interested in. I say be proud of who you are.
"We don't make fun of blacks for being black."
Uh, 'scuse me? Isn't race the basic Republican issue now (as it's been since 1968)? Haven't Stein and his ilk already accused Obama of being not black enough, and of being too black (and scary at that!) and "not like us," and blah blah blah? Jeezus, I wish somebody would win all his money so he'd shut up and go back to being stupid in private.
So if Paris Hilton got her career started from porn does that mean McCain got his started through S&M?
Only a fully paid up member of the 'log cabin' Republicans could say "Paris is not pretty"
dumb maybe or pretends to be, but still hot and off the cute scale.
mccain-mclame @ 20:
Of course I know that.
I think we agree completely with each other... not sure why you name me.
Ben Stein is whacked!
But, of course, Dennis Miller is the Cat Stevens of comedy.
I'm sure Paris Hilton is very upset to be spurned by Ben Stein, the guy who tries to trade economic advice for the favors of prostitutes...
On the MSNBC page that opens when I exit HotMail:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/151256
NewsWeek: Don’t Laugh. Paris Is Right.
What Ms. Hilton could teach Messrs. McCain and Obama about our energy crisis.
Huh. Perhaps, as a Canuck, I am just too liberal or progressive to really agree, but...
I think Ben Stein is a tool, yes. His stance against evolution was an embarrassment. Let's face it - he has a brilliant mind. He's a walking thesaurus. And yet all of that is outweighed by his more irrational political beliefs. It's sad.
But that's neither here nor there.
Watching Paris Hilton's sex tape isn't a crime - and this is coming from someone who hasn't even seen it. It's a little slimy to mention it in an op-ed piece, and perhaps that's your problem with him? Otherwise, I don't get it.
American was founded partly by Puritans. Yes. But when can we fully shrug off their loathsome fear of sexuality?
Furthermore, he's right on the money that poking fun at McCain for being the "old guy" is a little lame. McCain is cringeworthy for myriad other reasons, after all. His entire campaign is a joke. Why not start there?
And she was a nobody until her sex tape was 'leaked.' That's really just the truth.
That being said, he's trying to link Obama to Hilton as though her 'advertisement' of sorts was a campaign strategy from his team. No, Ben, she was simply responding to McCain - who brought her into this nonsense in the first place.
And when Ben argued that McCain is "as brave and patriotic a man as lives in this nation"? Yes, that also made me nearly lose my supper.
Still...
Well, I guess what I am saying is that while Ben Stein's political views are almost entirely out-of-touch, he has certainly done worse and while half of what he says is garbage, the other half is pretty true in this case. Let's not get lost ourselves in our own self-righteous left-wing doctrine.
I don't really follow Ben Stein.. but I _do_ know he lost it way before now.
I wrote him off as soon as I found out about his anti-evolution views.
There's just no accepting crap like that. Sure, I can understand it, if the person is ignorant, uninformed, or a religious zealot.
But in the case of a well-educated person like Stein? Well that just tells me the guy has lost all sense of reason.
how do Republicans equate
with dropping napalm on innocent Vietnamese women and children ?
William Dylan @ 10:
What the crap? Can you back this up or are you simply an anti-Semite in denial?
Paris is smarter than Ben Stein.
Who actually produced the Paris Hilton spoof of McCain?
The Obama Campaign? No ...
Click the video to watch the interview:
http://www.kget.com/entertainment/entertainmenttonight/story.aspx?conten...
Meet the Guys Behind Paris' McCain Spoof
Adam McKay: "I had on Air America, the progressive radio station. They kept talking about this McCain ad with Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, and I thought, you know, 'Oh my god, they have to respond. There has to be a rebuttal.'
"I called a friend of ours who works at CAA and he was able to hook me up with the agent who knew her. And within 3 hours I was on the phone with her and I don't really know her so I didn't know what to expect or how much of a sense of humor she had. But she right away got the joke and was completely down with it."
Dear C & L:
It's 6:30 on the Pacific Coast and I, like tens of millions of Americans, haven't eaten dinner yet. Why'd you have to go and put the image of Ben Stein watching porn in our minds? It's all I can do to keep my lunch down. I might not be able to sleep tonight.
The thought of a nekkid Ben Stein squeezing one off while staring at a video of Paris having sex is just too horrifying for words.
LibertyWatch @ 23:
I'm a Canadian and all, but I nonetheless wanted to thank you for not only serving your country (even when the faith you placed in its leaders was abused), but specifically for being a proud liberal soldier - something conservatives want us to forget exist. I hope that you receive the medical coverage you need and deserve, what with American healthcare being in the state it's in...
Weren't the repiglicans courtin' a porn star a few years ago...what was her name? Mary Carey or something like that?
So, what...porn stars aren't citizens? Porn stars aren't allowed to have an opinion? Should they not vote either? I wonder who Ben Stein will try to exclude from the public discourse next?
And would it be redundant for me to point out that MCCAIN's PEOPLE brought Paris into the conversation with their craptacular ad in the FIRST PLACE? Republicans are SUCH a lot of bedwetting crybabies. I have no use for any of them.
Right Ben, we don't make fun of blacks for being black. We just say they're "maybe a little too exotic."
Meat @ 39:
An anti-Semite is in no way related to an anti-zionist. One is racist the other a political view. Zionists are fascists who practice genocide on Palestinians.
okay, I read that twice. Isn't McCain the one who brought Paris Hilton into this mess in the first place?
Hey Ben Stein - Who's worse, the young girl who makes a sex tape or the old man who watches it? Regarding appearance - have you checked the mirror?
Notice his closing: "maybe John McCain has more of a shot than I thought he did."
So, before you saw Paris' reply, you didn't think McCranky had much of a shot. Which means, before you saw the Paris' reply, you *actually* made a rational judgement. Bet that hasn't happened for a long time before, and probably not for a long time to come.
My guess is that he loves the Nixon era because Kissinger might just be a touch uglier than Ben. That's a refreshing concept for him.
BennyP @ 32:
I was refering to Ben Stein.
With luck Paris will make a video responding to Stein.
The response is slimey for many reasons but the worst part is the sacrosanct nature of McCain's service. It's as if the fact that he suffered makes all criticism of him and all mocking of him out of bounds. Remember how they smeared General W. Clark over even questioning the relevance of his POW years to commanding an entire empire?
I suppose they think that this point tests well with focus groups... but perhaps it also means they fear that if we do puncture the bubble of saintlyness around the POW years then everything falls apart.
"And we especially don’t like being told how to vote by porn stars." ... but USING porn stars to tell OTHER people how to vote is perfectly OK (the Barack attack ad.)
Or in other terms if women would just allow themselves to be objects, and not start with that nasty talking and thinking and expressing their opinions, then they are welcome, according to Stein, to be part of the political process... or at least to be used by the political process.
mccain-mclame @ 52:
Yeah, man. I figured that out right after I posted.
Silly me.
cheers
Hey guys I just found out that McCain was a POW, I hadn't know that he spent 5 years in a rat hole in North Vietnam, don't you think that give him the right to be president? I mean he was a POW, that should give him the right to send troops to die in a needless war, then to vote against funding their healthcare and education, right? right?
(how many McCain points do I get, I really want a seat on the double talk express)
Ben Stein was Richard Nixon's speechwriter.
Can't get much creepier than THAT.
"This little tramp, who isn’t even close to being pretty, is belittling a man who spent six years in brutal captivity for defending his country."
If she "isn’t even close to being pretty" what were you doing watching her sex tape?
"It is downright disgusting coming from a porn star — and not a very good porn star at that (yes, I have seen the tape)."
I guess Ben knows his porn. Thanks for sharing, you sick old pervert.
Meat @ 36:
Pointing out that someone is a hypocritical windbag of an asshole is not left-wing doctrine. You don't have to have any sort of political doctrine to call a duck a duck.
Bonkers @ 46:
That and the fact that has-Ben is a prostitute for the Repubs.
Loonie @ 17:
I think Bob Gunton was trying to do his best 'Henry Kissinger' in that role, but hey, Stein and Kissinger are both Nixon-loving a-holes.
We're missing the big reveal here.....
"It is downright disgusting coming from a porn star — and not a very good porn star at that"
This almost sounds like a man with an encyclopedic knowledge of porn. Maybe he's a member of Bang Bus and got spoiled?
BennyP @ 48:
And yet, who was it that brought the fact that Stein is a Jew into it? Oh, yes, it was William Dylan, who also compared him to another Jew in politics.
I won't even touch your "Zionists are fascists who practice genocide on Palestianians" rhetoric. That sounds like a line you picked up from a manifesto.
Genocide. Pfah.
Here's a hint: Zionists support the state of Israel and its right to exist. Period. There are a lot of Christian Zionists, even, since Zionism was previously associated with people who believed that Israel is the Holy Land (and in the case of a great many Christians, the birthplace of Jesus Christ).
PS: Don't worry, I'm not a Jew.
McCain Unhinged: The Must Issue for the Obama Campaign
And the "Paris Hilton For President" video did just that - mockingly, teasingly, pleasantly depicted McCain as totally out of touch, as too old to be in touch ..
Oh and what really got to me.. (I should perhaps mention I'm a biochemist, and, need I say that evolution just isn't up for debate) ..
He hates evolution because he's decided to associate it with the Nazi's theories of race.
It's not just the guilt-by-association that bothers me. It's that it's not even true. Modern biology has completely refuted old 'race' theories. Not to mention racist pseudo-sciences like phrenology.
And I just can't stand that. The guy is advocating pseudo-science over REAL biological science on political grounds he's doing EXACTLY what the Nazis did. AND what Stalin did with Lysenko.
Saying "Yes, but my politics are less evil" isn't a very good excuse.
Meat @ 39:
Just so you'll know for the future, Jews (at least the original Israelites) and many Arabs, including the Palestinians are all Semites.
Stein is a more subtle, reserved version of the vile Pat Buchanan.
"Ben Stein is a writer, actor, economist and lawyer in Beverly Hills and Malibu."
How do YOU spell e-l-i-t-i-s-t?
Meat @ 62:
Calling someone who speaks out against Zionists an anti semite is like calling someone who wishes to end the genocide in Africa anti-black.
"not a very good porn star at that"... as if, if she WAS a good porn star we might be able to take her more seriously?
Isn't something a little backwards in that insult?
this coming from a man that had his deceased dog stuffed and mounted.
Stein is the one who thought "Expelled" would do better than "An Inconvenient Truth".
He is totally hypocritical. First he says don't make fun of people for who they are, and then he makes fun of porn stars, as if porn stars can't have a brain and an opinion, and are beneath him somehow. He is very racist man from everything I've read by him, and about him.
numfar @ 45:
Theres a whole parade of gay porn stars which have been indoctrinated into various Republican circles,
including Jeff Gannon's midnight forays to the WH, and various gay porn stars lined up at the RNC for photo ops with Coulter, Gingrich et al.
For the supposed party of family values they attract and invite gay celebs to their functions like no other.
No harm in it apart from the Repug hypocrisy of their policys and statements on the public's permissions to be human.
You just know that behind closed doors this guy has *got* to be a total freak! There's probably no limit to what he does.
Ben Stein...Lost it when his assclown pal Tricky-Dicky Nixon did two things:
1) Said "I am not a crook" and started ALL GOP lies all the time...and,
2) Resigned in DISGRACE after Stein tried to write speeches to get him out of hot water AND FAILED! Along with his other assclown buddy Pat Buchanan openly wept as the helicopter flew away...LOL !!!
ALL of these hacks deserve everything they get..hope it hurts...
willie @ 70:
Stein mounted his deceased dog, huh? He must be really desperate. /snark
If John Kerry's heroic service record doesn't count then why should John McCain's lame excuse for a service record? I would say all John McCain has done to work against our soldiers best interests would erase anything good he might have done during his service.
Texas Democrat @ 61:
Great point! Lets ask him about his favorites and why he doesn't love Paris in the Summer.
Say what you like about Paris Hilton, Mr. Stein-- her retort was a thousand times classier than yours. So what does that make you?
I'm liking Paris Hilton better every day. And did Stein see the "porno" tape before or after McCain's ad? If he's so damn perfect, what the hell was he watching it for? Research?
theWalrus @ 67:
"Log cabin elitists for McCain 2008" shouts the banners
This little tramp, who isn’t even close to being pretty...
Sh#t, I thought he was talkin' about himself.
Win Ben Stein's Hypocricy.
Otay @ 76:
It was the only dog that would have Stein as a master...and he was even more obediant when he was stuffed.
Bonkers @ 58:
Perhaps, but I think sometimes we all get caught up in mocking someone simply because they do not share the same beliefs as we do. In this case, Stein is defending McCain, a man he legitimately thinks should be President over Obama.
Anyhow, it's true (and I see this in retrospect a little more clearly) that Stein was being an asshole in several ways (and I highlighted them myself). Still, calling him 'nuts' or a 'creep' seems like a weak and dismissive comeback to me, when we can and should be able to write an eloquent rebuttal that illustrates why he misses the mark.
Ben Stein thinks Paris Hilton is ugly yet cannot resist the temptation to view a sex tape featuring her. Why? What a pathetic creature he is. As loathsome in his own way as the creep who released the tape.
Paris Hilton + Ben Stein = white noise. Notice to all rational, sentient primates. Turn on your cognitive filter/blocker and ignore these popculture tools.
otay @ 76
i would not doubt it one bit although i am not sure of what pose the dog was stuffed into.
i also forgot the link...
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1727/the_life_of_a_hollywood_as...
willie @ 70:
What? He mounted his dog after it was dead? That's doubly sick.
His editorial has a Frank Booth, "Baby wants blue velvet"..."Don't you fuckin' look at me" feel to it.
Poor Ben Stein, watching porn is probably the closest he ever gets to having sex.
Filled with self-loathing, he "confesses" his porn addiction to the world under the guise of attacking Paris Hilton. You can tell he really wants McCain tho'.
sad little man.
willie @ 70:
then the taxidermist got hold of it...
Is Paris paying attention? This is the kind of people she and her family have been supporting.
Meat (#36) there IS something to be said for self control... BUT...
good, solid, future-thinking liberal ideas have, way too often, been drowned out by SELF -RIGHTEOUS RIGHT-WING DOCTRINOLOGY during the last seven+ years.
I, for one, think we need a little MORE self-righteous left-wing doctrine 'stuff' filling up the air waves from time to time... if nothing else, to fight back against the Republican "campaign all the time" super-partisan mentality.
I can see in just a couple of generations the family members will be pronouncing the name STEEN , oh shades of Young Frankenstein .
no offense to any body i don't even pay attention to a smuck like this......haven't said that i'm not into much pop
culture but i would have the proverbial presidential beer
with paris
Bonkers @ 46:
Maybe real porn stars should make anti-McCain ads, just so that Ben Stein can rip into them in the 'American Spectator'. I'm only saying this so that we can learn more about his tastes...
'John McCain is a war hero and deserves more respect from a dwarf porn star who has sex with random hermaphrodites for money (that's right, I've seen the whole series except for Vol. #7, which is too bad because that one is supposed to be excellent). I really expected something more clever from Hollywood's super-gross underground niche porn elite, but apparently their standards just...'
Ben Stein is another tired old conservative shill. The guy has all the credibility of a John Stossel for crying out loud.
joeedugan @ 42:
ok you beat me to it, except I don't care what time it is. That image is now burned into my brain. I don't know if I'll ever be able to fully recover. That was totally uncalled for. Ben Stein should have to serve time for writing it, and C&L ala Silent Patriot ought to worry about liabilities just for having passed it on. I'm pretty sure many a jury would sympathize with me.
BennyP @ 68:
I'm calling a spade a spade.
I am not arguing that someone cannot legitimately criticize Israel. Hell, I've done it many times myself! I strongly disagree with some of their policies, just as I strongly disagree often with how the Palestinians behave. The entire situation is unfortunate.
I think what you are missing here is context, though: Your pal started to make comments about 'Israel' and 'the Zionists' in a thread that had nothing to do with either. If that doesn't make alarm bells ring for you, nothing will.
Then again, a lot of what you're saying strikes me as hateful and ignorant of historical facts, so here we are.
Leave it to Ben Stein to pass judgement on who's pretty and who's not. BEN, YOU ARE ONE UGLY DUDE YOURSELF!
OT but Breaking News
he got 5 and a half years but...
So if she's so despicable, why is a man as respectable as McCain using her as a tool to bash his opponent with?
I could certainly understand McCain using Paris in his ad if Obama shot the porn film or distributed it, or if maybe he'd sat down and discussed policy with her, but certainly McCain has a closer relationship with Paris and her ilk, through his biker crowd and their antics, than Obama does with Paris.
McCain referenced somebody who had absolutely nothing to do with him in a very derogatory manner. She shot back. Hers happened to be a better shot.
Besides, she never mentioned anything about McCain being a POW. She did crack on his age, but that was deserved since McCain was comparing Obama to two young women.
I've already thrown out all my Visine. Anybody know of anything else that BS promotes that I can discard of?
(I won't get rid of "FB'sDO" - but I will fast forward through the ugly parts.)
Good Morning World ...
Big news .... We didn't need this to know ben is a creep.
You can tell the GOP is getting desperate though.
Olbermann - Does McCain Realize Paris Is Mocking Him?
Ben is just a younger dummer version of Henry Kissinger.
If it were possible to make a human with the personality of a sloth....this jerk off would be it.
CowBoy Bob in Austin @ 93:
I agree that liberals and left-leaning Americans in general have too often been bullied by so-called conservatives throughout the United States. They need to grow a spine, and they need to fight.
Still, you can do that without sounding like a smarmy schoolchild. (I say this in general, not simply about the responses to Mr. Stein's nonsense.)
William Dylan @ 10:
It's Wolf Blitzer, AIPAC's corporate media shill.
One good thing is that the Repugs don't tell him to shut up. Maybe they don't notice all the leaks in their sinking ship.
Keep droning has-Ben!
Three things:
1) Nobody cares about Ben Stein.
2) Nobody cares about Paris Hilton.
3) I agree with everything he said about her.
oh and also.. Dear C&L: I love you and visit you everyday, please don't give me anymore of Ben Stein or Paris Hilton.
Meat @ 99:
I don't agree with the fellow's opinion who brought the whole thing up.
I merely pointed out the knee-jerk 'anti-semite' reaction as faulty.
I don't care what religion BenS (or anyone else is)- after 'Expelled' and his creationism support I stopped assuming he was Jewish.
Zionism does have a certain 'manifesto' sound to it- I agree. Is Neo-Con-Zionist any more accurate?
"This little tramp, who isn’t even close to being pretty, is belittling a man who spent six years in brutal captivity for defending his country."
If she's so ugly Ben, what on earth were you doing watching her sex tape?
"It is downright disgusting coming from a porn star — and not a very good porn star at that (yes, I have seen the tape)."
I guess Ben knows good porn when he sees it. Thanks for sharing Ben, you sick, sad old pervert.
lj @ 59:
If so he is without a doubt the more boring prostitute in history.
BennyP @ 48:
Meat, lose the anti-Semite BS. Stein has cemented his racist thoughts time and again.
I remember the last time I ever watched Win Ben Stein's Money sometime around 2002. Some contestant said he was related to Gen. Custer or something, and Stein's idiot sidekick (Sal Iacono, not Jimmy Kimmel or Nancy Pimental) went off on a rant about how Native Americans deserved everything they got because they were so brutal in their warfare, all the while Stein agreed whole-heartedly. I couldn't believe what I heard, I was totally stunned.
It had always bothered me that he stuck up for that criminal Nixon on the show, but I thought he was just playing the character of an elitist. It wasn't until that episode that I looked into his background and realized what a complete tool Stein is, that he wasn't playing a character at all, and that his elitism was the least of his negatives.
MountainMan at 41:
Adam McKay is Will Ferrell's production partner. He is a "known Democrat" and he and Will have produced some of the funniest anti-Bush stuff out there. Stein has a point in tying this to Obama..if only because they are both democrats. Sad that this is what they have in their arsenal.
In general:
I'm sure that Obama didn't "Okay" this, or even ask for it. This is the internet, and as much as we bitch about the guys who get their marching orders from the McCain campaign, or the Bushies, we are not completely immune from accusations of the same.
It would be good if the rest of the country was aware that somethings happen independently of campaigns, but most people don't see it that way. Ben Stein...being an old guy..probably doesn't get the new media. Or he's being willfully ingnorant. Knowing his track record I vote for willfully ignorant.
We all get off on tangents once in a while. As I see it, if the liberal bloggers didn't keep this stuff in the news, most of it would be ignored. As it is, a lot of it is intentionally misunderstood, and is described at being "left leaning" or "liberal". It's going to take a lot to get the MSM to be what it once was, including legislation the breaks up some of the more monopolistic aspects of new reporting.
People are starting to actually pay attention to what's going on in the media and in Washington because they are hurting. I wish that this little media spat involving Ms. Hilton weren't being talked about as much as it is. We have much bigger fish to fry.
(I figured that smarter people than Ms. Hilton were responsible for her ad. McKay is a pretty savvy dude. Good for him, and for her for doing this, it was funny. It's just more of a JibJab moment, and less of an election politics moment.Can't we just laugh at the idiots and move on?)
There's so much wrong with this, one hardly knows where to begin. I guess the takeaway is that the Republicans have decided they can't beat Obama so they're setting the bar a little lower.
As for me, I'm officially taking a news holiday until the debates after this, as we have now lived through a week where Will Farrell and Paris Hilton have provided the single most substantive policy suggestion in the entire campaign, much to the shame of Messers McCain and Obama.
As for Mr. Stein:
"First of all, Paris Hilton was a total nobody party girl in West Hollywood until she and her boyfriend made AND then “someone” SOLD a hard core video of Paris Hilton having sex. "
I'm going Cheney on this: SO? Has anyone, anywhere, ever, including Paris Hilton herself, claimed that Paris Hilton is famous for anything other than being famous?
So basically, she got her start as a porn star. And she’s being trotted out by the media barons to smear John McCain, as brave and patriotic a man as lives in this nation.
Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. WHO brought Paris Hilton into this mess to smear WHO? Is this more of that famous Republican inverse surge/Sunni Awakening negative causality at play?
What? The "media barons" all sat around and said "you know what let's do? Let's randomly bring Paris Hilton into this!"
No, Ben. They were responding to the ABSURDITY of associating Barack Obama with Paris Hilton in a smear ad put out by "as brave and patriotic a man as lives in this nation."
This little tramp, who isn’t even close to being pretty, is belittling a man who spent six years in brutal captivity for defending his country.
I guess pretty is in the eye of the beholder, but it's hard to say that Paris is tough on the eyes.
Still, this is sauce for the goose, Mr. Stein. When confronted about the Paris Hilton ad run by his campaign, John McCain laughed it off and said that they're just trying to have some fun.
So, it's okay for a brave, brave man like John McCain to smear his opponent with association to "the little tramp" but if "the little tramp" has the audacity to open HER mouth in (much, much funnier) retort, well, then we suddenly get sand in our collective vaginas about it.
Sounds pretty wimpy to me, Stein. Next time, if you can't take it from Paris, don't dish it to her. You'll let us know when you're ready to play with the big kids.
Paris, get this: in modern day America, we don’t mock people because of things they have done that are unavoidable and not in any way blameworthy.
Oh, you mean like not being pretty?
We don’t make fun of blacks for being black. We don’t make fun of women for having breasts. We don’t make fun of old people for being old. This is uncool from any source.
This from a Nixon speechwriter? What about making fun of morons for being stupid?
It is downright disgusting coming from a porn star — and not a very good porn star at that (yes, I have seen the tape). And we especially don’t like being told how to vote by porn stars.
When you're done watching and rewatching her sex tape, you might want to watch the AD you're attacking and notice that she never, ever, tells anyone how to vote, except to (jokingly) throw her hat into the ring.
I could be wrong about this, but I don't think she was seriously suggesting that anyone vote for her. She's underage to be the president anyway.
But she never says "vote for Obama" or "don't vote for McCain."
If this is the best the Hollywood pals of Barack Obama can do, maybe John McCain has more of a shot than I thought he did.
Again, who brought Paris Hilton into this?
Number of invokations of Paris Hilton by the John McCain campaign: 1
Number of invokations of Paris Hilton by the Barack Obama campaign: 0
He should also explain in detail why he doesn't think that McCain can win.
JasonS @ 116:
Number of times you defended Paris Hilton: 6
The more Obama supporters defend Paris Hilton, the more you prove McSame's point.
NEWSFLASH: McCain's ad was way off, Obama and Paris and Britney have absolutely nothing to do with eachother. So why are you all so bent on defending Paris Hilton from a nobody Nixon speech writer?
Who the f*ck are these people (Stein, Beck, Savage, et al ?). And someone, please...explain to me why they
have a following.
Are the people on the right that pathetic that these gas-bags should deserve two seconds of air time, much less a entire program!!!!
We don’t make fun of women for having breasts.
He didn't say this on TV. He wrote it out. He had a chance to look it over, even.
He didn't say 'making fun of women's breasts', which could describe fratboy behavior. He said making fun of women for having breasts. I mean, wtf?
Someone needs to take Ben Stein's money.
After Ben Stein stated "Science leads to killing people" (google it) it's obvious he's thrown himself with loonies and can be ignored now. He actually believes medical colleges are evil - all that science and learning and stuff!
And then he can explain what the noble stalwart John McCain is doing putting bad porn stars in his election ads?
McCain calling Obama an Elitist and Celebrity is ridiculous.
Ben S is possibly the only neocon republican who is more of a celebrity than McCain (ArnoldS is a notable exception).
Lost it? Maybe not.
In 2004, the Republicans won by keeping the focus off the issue. Oct 2004, the coverage was Kerry and Vietnam.
In 2008, the playbook is the same. Keep the focus off the rising deficits, borrow and spend economics, the nation-building fiasco in Iraq, the issue of whether lying about a national security threat in order to start a war amounts to treasonable like conduct, health care costs rising at double the rate of inflation, and so forth.
Our playbook needs to be the exact opposite.
Oh wait...I get it now....
Two white girls in a video about "celebrity" Obama.....Two white, kind of known slutty girls...
Then the media gets a hold of it and it's just funny...
Then someone has to come out and remind folks that the one girl who has spoken up..who is seeminly backing Obama...and makes the wrinkly old guy (add white in there, as it is implied.) look silly...
Someone has to remind the mouth breathers that not only is she a little slutty..she's a porn star..and not a very good one....(because being good at being a porn star would make such a difference in THIS argument.)
Sorry...I was thinking like a liberal for a moment there.
Sure, Ben Stein is crazy. But I don't think C&L should be so blindly partisan (even if Ben Stein is). Take the partisanship out of it and he's right, Paris Hilton is an idiotic little tramp and there's no reason anyone should listen to her. No matter what the context may be, it's hard to chastise someone for pointing this out.
Let's just put down women anyway we can... (then go home and watch a juicy porn movie).
Andrew @ 5:
They were.
LindsayLohan'sButtFreckles @ 118:
Paris Hilton was playing by the rules that McCain set and Stein is a tool for getting pushed out of shape by the fact that she and FunnyOrDie played the game better.
This has nothing to do with Obama. Where in my post did I promote Barack Obama? The only comment I made about Obama in that post was that he should be ashamed that Paris Hilton has a more substantive campaign ad than he has.
As for "proving McSame's point," well, if anything letting Stein go without comment would be capitulating to McSame's point.
The campaign associates Obama with Hilton, Hilton responds and the campaign's surrogates attack HER as if doing so somehow discredits OBAMA?!? What? Just let that stupidity go?
Nah. These idea-free tools are morons and there's no percentage in ignoring that.
As for defending Paris, damn right. Someone makes fun of you, you have a right to make fun back. McSame doesn't get to simultaneously USE Paris Hilton's trashy image for their benefit and then act all outraged and stunned at her trashiness.
You don't like Paris Hilton? Stop using her in your ads.
What's that? Yet another Zionist douche-bag foaming at the mouth? No thanks, I'd rather listen to crickets fuck.
E.L. @ 127:
I nominate you the next 'Leave Brittany Alone!' finalist!
(pause for laugh)
While I agree that BenS certainly appears to be a pig- I don't think defending ParisH's reputation is a worth while exercise. She's made a career and lifestyle out of lowering the bar for women everywhere.
I bet McCain has received money from the porn industry for some support.
And btw, "tramp", is that a language a religious person (I assume because of the "documentary" "expelled") shoud say? See you in hell.
Ruthless People @ 2:
Furthermore, where was Ben Stein when John Kerry and John McCain were doing his fighting for him? Born in 1944, he was the perfect age to step up to the plate and prove the validity of his chickenhawk philosophies. But no, he ducked into Columbia school of economics, and when that gig was over in 1966, and he realized they might still come to get him, he ducked into Yale law school to hide until 1970. Then on to write speeches for tricky Dick Nixon. Frankly, he's got the perfect resume to te a Republican shill.
For dry red eyes, try clear eyes ... Year Right ...
For empty no-brain fools like Stein, I have 1 advice ( stolen from Timbo ) = Kill Yourself ...
Ben, get this: in modern-day America, we don't mock people for being a porn star.
BennyP @ 131:
Really? How does Paris lower the bar for anybody but Paris?
Stein is a despicable human being.
Did anyone notice that he's implying that blacks cant help being black, as if the fact of their blackness is a major problem? Like a disease or some horrible characteristic they'd be better off without?
In context, that's how it appears to me.
How would Stein like it if we said, "Oh, he can't help being stupid. He was born that way."
LindsayLohan'sButtFreckles @ 118:
Because that nobody Nixon speech writer and his tirade will be repeated over and over on Beck, Hannity and Limbaugh as legitimate discourse. I don't see any of this as defending Hilton so much as to call bullshit on Stein's assertion that Obama was behind Hilton's video, or that Hilton was speaking towards McCain's war record. Those are lies, but will be repeated as truths, and we should call Stein out on it.
It must be put on record that many people see through this charade as nothing more than connecting Paris with Barack again, especially after McCain took such a beating for the original ad.
Court Jester @ 51:
Ben's an economist and a porn critic. He was talking about a money shot.
wxgeek @ 119:
You can say what you like about those clowns Beck, Savage, Hannity, and Limbaugh, but Stein has IMPECCABLE Republican credentials! 1. SPEECH WRITER FOR RIXARD NIXON. 2. PEPPERDINE PROFESSOR OF LITIGATION LAW. Frankly I'm surprised Bush never nominated him for the Supreme Court. I guess he decided to nominate the first person he bumped into, opened his office door, and knocked Harriet Myers on her ass.
AndrewK @ 135:
Ask me that when your daughter thinks a porn movie is a ticket to Hollywood.
Ruthless People @ 14:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kathy-hilton/mccains-celebrity-ad-friv_b_1...
You mean this paris hilton's parents? :-D
how paranoid are you when you think that the funnyordie spot was an Obama-created hitjob?
btw, britney spears believes that bush should be allowed to do whatever the hell he wants...and said that gay unions defile the sanctity of marriage...it was one of the first questions asked of her after her 51 hour marriage ended.
McCain has limned the key weakness of Obama: or maybe the key weaknesses: He's young and he's more of a rock star than an experienced leader. Maybe he's also a bit exotic.
followed by...
Paris, get this: in modern day America, we don't mock people because of things they have done that are unavoidable and not in any way blameworthy. We don't make fun of blacks for being black.
uh-WHAAAA?
Cuchulain @ 136:
Thats a good point. BS rails against judging people by appearance, then goes and calls Paris ugly.
Ben Stein--porn aficionado and pretend economist
Phil Grahm--porn financier and pretend economist
With advisors like these and Cindy Mac as Ms Cow Chip, how can Li'l Mac go wrong?
al dole @ 138:
As an academic discipline, Economics has taken quite a pounding lately. All of the traditional economic models don't hold up anymore, so they're getting a little desperate for attention. They've had economists that have merged Economics with Psychology, Economics with Demographics, and Economics with Darwinian Evolution. It was only a matter of time before somebody merged Economics with Porn, and there's nobody better to do it than Ben Stein.
So let's see. Instead of the American economy suffering from stagflation, economic malaise, a sagging dollar, and a stockmarket disconnect, the economy is in a state of double penetration, golden showers, and tea bagging. As a result , Fed Chairman Ben 'Bone' Barenaked decided to give the Federal Vagina a New York Taco.
Sounds like Stein could well end up on the wrong end of a libel suit. Paris: you go, girl.
Ben Stein is Republican. Of course he doesn't like that kind of porn.
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